Was Aretha Franklin Uninvited to Whitney's Funeral by Cissy Houston?

So what do you think of this all of u .. she's too old leg spasm supporter's

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2012/0...sy_houston.php



Aretha Franklin was a no-show at Whitney Houston's funeral on Saturday because she was suffering from leg spasms, or was it because she angered the late singer's mother with remarks she made during a Friday appearance on "Today"? Was it a little disrespect?
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Franklin, 69, unexpectedly canceled her scheduled performance at Houston's funeral service. Dionne Warwick was apparently unaware that Aretha wasn't there, and called for her to come to the pulpit, saying, "Oh, 'Re's not here?"

In what sounded like veiled criticism, Aretha told Al Roker, "Parents really have to talk to their children before they leave home. They have to make sure when they leave home, they have all the right things. She left home with all the right things, but she just kind of lost her way along the way."

Mariah Carey Talks Whitney Houston Death

The statement was said to have upset Cissy Houston, who then reportedly uninvited Franklin to the service. Franklin's spokeswoman denied the story, citing leg spasms as the reason for her absence.

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I saw that on Inside Edition yesterday. Can't confirm if it was true. Also saw that sleeze-bag that was Whitney's limo driver today saying that Whitney and Bobby use to do crack in his limo. People will do or say anything to make a dollar.

Its hard to believe-Aretha affirmed Whitney "leaving home with the right things." Am I missing something??

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Originally Posted by luke

Its hard to believe-Aretha affirmed Whitney "leaving home with the right things." Am I missing something??

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You didn't miss anything. All that stuff about Aretha being uninvited by Cissy is just more made up Bull$%*T! Get ready for more of it like that made up fantasy crap that guy from the U.K. wrote about Whitney and her friend Robyn. It seems that this has become the custom. Wait until a person passes away and then start saying and making up all kinds of crazy things to make money over their dead body! It's disgusting, but it is reality in the World we live in today.

This strange story reminded me of the time back in 2009 when Aretha tried to stand up somewhere and her leg gave out causing her to fall and fracture or bruise her ribs. We were all disappointed because she was suppose to do her concert at Coney Island in August of that year. More recently she had a little accident at home and fractored a toe I believe.

There is no way in the World anyone could get me to believe that Cissy Houston would uninvite Aretha to the services. They have been friends for over 50 years, but are deeply religious, strong women. I can't see it happening.

I could believe Cissy being disappointed that Aretha was unable to make it. I also believe that she understood.

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fantasy crap that guy from the U.K. wrote about Whitney and her friend Robyn.

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Now if that was'nt the lowest..I did'nt believe a word of that What a loser.

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Originally Posted by abfan

Now if that was'nt the lowest..I did'nt believe a word of that What a loser.

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Exactly! He doesn't even know Whitney or lives in this country, yet he waited until the day after she was buried to start talking about her and things that have never been proven and then uses that weak ass, "but it's ok if she was" and she was this and she was that and he is a lying ass period. It has gone beyond urban myth with someone like that starts writing these stories. Doing it for the cash!

Aretha has lost a lot of fans over this.

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Aretha has lost a lot of fans over this.

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And I'm one of them.The fact that she went on and partied at her show the night of ..after claiming legs spasm..Come on Ree

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Is 'Ree' wearing that mini skirt so she can show everyone exactly whereabouts she was having the spasms?

Who is that she's standing with, Anita Baker?

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Who is that she's standing with, Anita Baker?

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Yes that's a old pic..Just stated I'm a huge Fan of both .. aka abfan

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Now if that was'nt the lowest..I did'nt believe a word of that What a loser.

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You don't believe that Whitney and Robyn were a couple? It's been rumored for years that Robyn Crawford was Whitney's lover.

Even if it's true.... Really is this the time to make it a Gay agenda..The fool even stated she may have committed suicide because she could'nt live happily as a lesbian

"Parents really have to talk to their children before they leave home. They have to make sure when they leave home, they have all the right things. She left home with all the right things, but she just kind of lost her way along the way."

Where is the "veiled criticism"? I see a compliment... "She left home with all the right things"... meaning her Mama taught her right, but she lost her way anyway, seems to be the main message.

Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't... go to the funeral and possibly be accused of trying to upstage the deceased, or whatever other negativity they can bring up. Don't go, and you're insensitive and uncaring and blah blah blah.

Aretha didn't lose ME as a fan. Whether she did a show, or "partied"... what do you think was the main or even sole topic of conversation at that party? Was she expected to jump on the funeral pyre? Everyone mourns differently and has other life issues to deal with. People also want to be around other people at times of great loss.

JMO

and p.s. Why couldn't Whitney have lived happily as a lesbian if she wanted to? At this date and time? Ten, fifteen years ago maybe. I'm not saying she was or wasn't, I just don't give a tinker's dam and don't think anyone else really does anymore.

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Everyone mourns differently and has other life issues to deal with

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First off Aretha Agreed to be there and sing a solo.. She was on every talk show there was yapping about her love for the family and Whitney..Then the day of, it was Jesse Jackson on CNN who reported she would'nt be able to attend.As you saw Dionne. Did'nt even know she was a no show... It's not like she had to travel from Detroit,she was 30 minutes away in NY...She didnt have to sing, but show up for gods sake..Her excuse was Lame

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Even if it's true.... Really is this the time to make it a Gay agenda..The fool even stated she may have committed suicide because she could'nt live happily as a lesbian

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Exactly where in the article did Mr. Tatchell state that Whitney may have committed suicide?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-Crawford.html

Let Whitney rest.

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You don't believe that Whitney and Robyn were a couple? It's been rumored for years that Robyn Crawford was Whitney's lover.

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Rumored! Born out of jealousy of her success! The same kinda talk went on in the seventies when Donna Summer became the number one aritist. "Rumor" was that she was really a tranvestite [[sp?). A few years ago, they did the same thing to Alicia Keys. It was "rumored" that she was gay all of sudden. I am sure it has happened to other very popular artists so you must take it with a grain of salt.

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Originally Posted by abfan

Even if it's true.... Really is this the time to make it a Gay agenda..The fool even stated she may have committed suicide because she could'nt live happily as a lesbian

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He is lying. I "heard" from someone that grew up with Whitney that it was some dude from the neighborhood that started that rumor years ago before she was famous just because she rejected him and wouldn't give him any........

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Originally Posted by kalisa

"Parents really have to talk to their children before they leave home. They have to make sure when they leave home, they have all the right things. She left home with all the right things, but she just kind of lost her way along the way."

Where is the "veiled criticism"? I see a compliment... "She left home with all the right things"... meaning her Mama taught her right, but she lost her way anyway, seems to be the main message.

Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't... go to the funeral and possibly be accused of trying to upstage the deceased, or whatever other negativity they can bring up. Don't go, and you're insensitive and uncaring and blah blah blah.

Aretha didn't lose ME as a fan. Whether she did a show, or "partied"... what do you think was the main or even sole topic of conversation at that party? Was she expected to jump on the funeral pyre? Everyone mourns differently and has other life issues to deal with. People also want to be around other people at times of great loss.

JMO

and p.s. Why couldn't Whitney have lived happily as a lesbian if she wanted to? At this date and time? Ten, fifteen years ago maybe. I'm not saying she was or wasn't, I just don't give a tinker's dam and don't think anyone else really does anymore.

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There you go Kalisa. Now this is good and well thought out post!

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Originally Posted by kalisa

"Parents really have to talk to their children before they leave home. They have to make sure when they leave home, they have all the right things. She left home with all the right things, but she just kind of lost her way along the way."

Where is the "veiled criticism"? I see a compliment... "She left home with all the right things"... meaning her Mama taught her right, but she lost her way anyway, seems to be the main message.

Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't... go to the funeral and possibly be accused of trying to upstage the deceased, or whatever other negativity they can bring up. Don't go, and you're insensitive and uncaring and blah blah blah.

Aretha didn't lose ME as a fan. Whether she did a show, or "partied"... what do you think was the main or even sole topic of conversation at that party? Was she expected to jump on the funeral pyre? Everyone mourns differently and has other life issues to deal with. People also want to be around other people at times of great loss.

JMO

and p.s. Why couldn't Whitney have lived happily as a lesbian if she wanted to? At this date and time? Ten, fifteen years ago maybe. I'm not saying she was or wasn't, I just don't give a tinker's dam and don't think anyone else really does anymore.

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I can't imagine Cissy, or Saint Cissy, as she's known in NJ and NYC as, uninviting Aretha to Whitney's funeral. I just don't see it.

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Originally Posted by lakedistrictlad1

Is 'Ree' wearing that mini skirt so she can show everyone exactly whereabouts she was having the spasms?

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LOLOL!!!
On Ree, nothing is ever 'mini'.

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Originally Posted by abfan

Even if it's true.... Really is this the time to make it a Gay agenda..The fool even stated she may have committed suicide because she could'nt live happily as a lesbian

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'Gay agenda'! What do you mean, dear?

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LOLOL!!!
On Ree, nothing is ever 'mini'.

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What is this fool talking about?

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What is this fool talking about?

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Oh change the record, 'straight' Marv. That's two separate threads you've used this quote on.
I'm referring to the fact that, on the rather plump Aretha Franklin, a mini skirt would look like a kaftan on a, shall we say, more slender frame.
You of all should know about frocks. As a 'straight' man.

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Oh change the record, 'straight' Marv. That's two separate threads you've used this quote on.
I'm referring to the fact that, on the rather plump Aretha Franklin, a mini skirt would look like a kaftan on a, shall we say, more slender frame.
You of all should know about frocks. As a 'staright' man.

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Are you trying to pick a fight with me or something? Are you one of the people Ralph had to ban and now you are back here and bitter about it?

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You don't believe that Whitney and Robyn were a couple? It's been rumored for years that Robyn Crawford was Whitney's lover.

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A rumor is just a rumor until it is proven. Many times when two people of the same sex spend lots of time together, they are suddenly branded as "gay" because they don't seem to conform to social norms. It offends the sensibilities of these traditional-minded types, and who look for the easiest, lamest excuse for what they don't understand. That is the ignorant, backward mindset that starts these types of false rumors, and gets straight kids bullied in school. It's the same ignorant mindset that says that if a person gets to a certain age and doesn't marry or have kids, they are automatically assumed gay. It's the same mindset that brands less-than-macho boys as gay. It's the ignorance and fear that causes a father to not hug their sons.

It must stop.

I imagine that the "gay" allegations also come from gays that look for anything to champion their cause.

What difference does it make IF she was involved with Robyn? It's 2012!! It's legal now. Shouldnt be an issue period!!

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A rumor is just a rumor until it is proven. Many times when two people of the same sex spend lots of time together, they are suddenly branded as "gay" because they don't seem to conform to social norms. It offends the sensibilities of these traditional-minded and look for the easiest, lamest excuse for what they don't understand. That is the ignorant, backward mindset that starts these types of false rumors, gets kids bullied in school. It's the same ignorant mindset that says that if a man gets to a certain age and doesn't marry a woman or have kids, he is automatically assumed gay. It's the same mindset that brands less-than-macho boys as gay. It's the ignorance and fear that causes a father to not hug their sons.

It must stop.

I imagine that the "gay" allegations also come from gays that look for anything to champion their cause.

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Would Cissy, or Saint Cissy, as she's known in NJ and NYC, have accepted Whitney if she told her mom she was a lesbian. This could be a huge factor in all of this.

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Originally Posted by Roberta75

Would Cissy, or Saint Cissy, as she's known in NJ and NYC, have accepted Whitney if she told her mom she was a lesbian. This could be a huge factor in all of this.

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I dunno ,but why don't you email her and ask her? This thread was about whether or not Aretha was disinvited to the funeral by Cissy Houston. Although I do not believe this occurred, it really is just a rumor made up by someone for some insane reason.

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Originally Posted by luke

What difference does it make IF she was involved with Robyn? It's 2012!! It's legal now. Shouldnt be an issue period!!

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Because if it is not true, and there is no evidence, the idea should not be entertained. Did you read my post?

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Although I do not believe this occurred, it really is just a rumor made up by someone for some insane reason.

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That's true! I can fully see some dude making it up because his ego was hurt if she rejected his advances. We have all seen many guys do that. They can't accept that a woman would not want them, so the only way for them to save face, or to protect their self-esteem, they decide that lesbianism must be the only reason. In his mind, he's comforted, but then he spreads a lie.

abfan,

I believe that this may be nothing more than a fishing expedition in order to keep a hot story 'hot'.

We've seen this whenever someone famous dies. Suddenly, a classmate of theirs from the third grade wants to talk about their 'life' with so & so & will even discuss how they were hooked on cookies & milk & used to eat & drink them together.

I guess that aside from the speculatory nature of these 'stories', what I despise most about them is that "unnamed sources'' routine. Often times, ''Unnamed Sources'' is a most convenient way for whomever's writing something to throw out THEIR OWN opinion & speculation, side-stepping any responsibility by quoting an 'unnamed source'.

Kinda like when someone has someone toss their name out there for being considered for political office or even a new movie role.

I honestly believe that this is a case of someone who's not satisfied with the explanation given for Aretha's non-appearance & figures that there HAS to be something more to the story & has decided that his/her hypothesis is closer to the truth than what has already been stated.

I say this because as already pointed out, there was NOTHING said by Aretha in that article which could be twisted into a negative statement about Cissy. She clearly stated that Whitney was given all of the tools possible, but somehow fell by the wayside.

The writer set the tone for his/her direction & showed where THEY were coming from when they prefaced Aretha's quote by writing & I quote..."In what sounded like veiled criticism..."

I don't see ANY criticism, veiled or otherwise in what Aretha said. That's the writer insinuating HIS/HER beliefs into the matter. At best, it's misleading & deceptive, at worst, it's a lie & it's these kind of tactics that gives what passes as journalism these days a bad name.

And sadly, too many people for for 'journalism' such as this in which speculation & innuendo is presented pretty much as fact.

Aretha Franklin: Enough talk on why she missed Whitney's funeral!
February 22, 2012




Aretha Franklin missed Whitney Houston's funeral Saturday, but there's simply no drama behind it all, the Queen of Soul insisted Wednesday, suggesting various media outlets should "stop the BS."

Franklin, who was invited to the funeral and reportedly on tap to sing "The Greatest Love of All," bowed out at the last minute for health reasons, leaving Dionne Warwick a bit surprised to learn that "Re" wasn't on hand when she was to step up to the front of the church.

Franklin explained in a statement Saturday obtained by "Extra" that she'd had every intention of attending, but "unfortunately I had terrible leg spasms and locked leg muscles until 4:00 a.m. this morning following my concert last night, which I've been having for the last few days. I feel it necessary and very important to stay off my leg today as much as possible until concert time this evening.

"My heart goes out to my dear friend Cissy [Houston], Dionne, Bobbi Kristina [Brown] and the rest of the family. May God keep them all."

But Wednesday's statement was another thing entirely.

"People are getting their information from the wrong source," Franklin said, according to the Detroit News. "The intelligent and the thoughtful thing to do would be to respect and have some sensitivity to the moment. If you don't know how, at least try. Cissy does not need ridiculous speculation and neither do I — particularly at this time."

The "ridiculous speculation" referred to talk of a rift between Cissy and Aretha, complete with an un-invitation, over comments the latter made in a "Today" interview that aired Friday.

"With respect to the 'Today' show, my entire statement was pretaped. However, the 'Today' show did not air the part of my statement, which said, 'This is no reflection on Cissy or Nippy's upbringing.'
"Knowing Cissy as well as I do, I know Whitney left home right and properly. I was generalizing and it was a well-intended statement for any young adult coming into the music industry. I was not speaking of anyone specifically."

The interview, in which Franklin described her reaction to hearing of Houston's death, is no longer available on a "Today" show Web page where it had been posted.

"She was having her problems; she was having her challenges," Franklin told "Today," "but a lot of people have challenges of all kinds. ... You cannot define a person on just one thing. You can't just forget all these wonderful and good things that a person has done because one thing didn't come off the way you thought it should come off."

Whitney Houston died Feb. 11 in Beverly Hills. She was found unresponsive in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton, submerged in the water. The cause of death has not officially been determined, pending results of toxicology and other tests.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/goss...n-funeral.html

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What difference does it make IF she was involved with Robyn? It's 2012!! It's legal now. Shouldnt be an issue period!!

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I agree, and the writer who wrote the article in questions has no problems with lesbianism. It's a shame a few of her fans are horrified of the thought that Whitney may have had a same sex relationship.

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I agree, and the writer who wrote the article in questions has no problems with lesbianism. It's a shame a few of her fans are horrified of the thought that Whitney may have had a same sex relationship.

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But, is there any evidence of it? Also, what would you rather live with, a belief based on rumor, or the truth based on fact?

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abfan,

I believe that this may be nothing more than a fishing expedition in order to keep a hot story 'hot'.

We've seen this whenever someone famous dies. Suddenly, a classmate of theirs from the third grade wants to talk about their 'life' with so & so & will even discuss how they were hooked on cookies & milk & used to eat & drink them together.

I guess that aside from the speculatory nature of these 'stories', what I despise most about them is that "unnamed sources'' routine. Often times, ''Unnamed Sources'' is a most convenient way for whomever's writing somehing to throw out THEIR OWN opinion & speculation, side-stepping any responsibility by quoting an 'unnamed source'.

Kinda like when someone has someone toss their name out there for being considered for political office or even a new movie role.

I honestly believe that this is a case of someone who's not satisfied with the explanation given for Aretha's non-appearance & figures that there HAS to be something more to the story & has decided that his/her hypothesis is closer to the truth than what has already been stated.

I say this because as already pointed out, there was NOTHING said by Aretha in that article which could be twisted into a negative statement about Cissy. She clearly stated that Whitney was given all of the tools possible, but somehow fell by the wayside.

The writer set the tone for his/her direction & showed where THEY were coming from when they prefaced Aretha's quote by writing & I quote..."In what sounded like veiled criticism..."

I don't see ANY criticism, veiled or otherwise in what Aretha said. That's the writer insinuating HIS/HER beliefs into the matter. At best, it's misleading & deceptive, at worst, it's a lie & it's these kind of tactics that gives what passes as journalism these days a bad name.

And sadly, too many people for for 'journalism' such as this in which speculation & innuendo is presented pretty much as fact.

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Exactly! It seems that everyone remotely associated with Whitney Houstion now want to up their importance in/on her life. There is another article in the thread about Bobby Brown's attendance at the funeral where the writer concludes his piece by totally twisting and distorting what occurred in regards to Bobby and his children leaving the services early. I saw right through that immmediately because the facts were explained by Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev. Sharpton and Bishop T.D. Jakes on CNN right after Bobby left the church. Their explanation and Bobby's were VERY much different from the writer of the article.

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Originally Posted by soulster

That's true! I can fully see some dude making it up because his ego was hurt if she rejected his advances. We have all seen many guys do that. They can't accept that a woman would not want them, so the only way for them to save face, or to protect their self-esteem, they decide that lesbianism must be the only reason. In his mind, he's comforted, but then he spreads a lie.

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When I was told this way back in the 80's, it made sense and was much more plausible than what these "gossip writers" in England and elsewhere are putting out there this week!