I'm all for an Expanded Edition of their Second Time Around album
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Yes I would be happy to see, and purchase, such a CD collection.
Snakepit & SatansBlues, check this out!
https://www.amazon.com/While-City-Sl...0331649&sr=8-6
Yes "expanded" versions of both Spinners Motown albums have been available for a while.
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Love Bobby Smith's voice but I'm not fond of the track "While The City Sleeps"
Dig out my copy of "While the City sleeps".
I will give it a few plays....I was probably put off playing it as "The second time around" 'll was never a great favourite.
Remember the tracks now...after a few plays. Once again not mad about G.C. Cameron vocals...Bobby Smith for me.
I didn’t care for it at first, but it kind of grew on me. To me it sounds like a mashup of “Since I Don’t Have You” by the Skyliners and that song from “Cooley High” that Coachise, Preach and the gang sang drunkingly off key on the street corner. [[ Right before the part where they go joyriding in the stolen Caddy).
Two more CD coming from Oldays Records :
_ Jazz Side Of Motown 1961-1967 [[ 2 CD ):
https://merurido.jp/item.php?ky=ODR6940-41&visit_old=1
_ The Marvelous Marvelettes + bonus tracks :
https://merurido.jp/item.php?ky=ODR6938&visit_old=1
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Oldays is a Public Domain label.
There has been times and agains, when wanting early albums of Miracles, Marvelettes, and Little Stevie Wonder on CD, when the easiest accessibles to find was the public domains, but no, without official authorized Motown copyright = no thank you.
I have managed, after searching and searching on Amazon enough, some of them on Universal Japan, whenever they were still affordable enough.
So the copyright laws must be different in Japan as you would never get away with 'stealing' these for release in Europe or the US. If I remember Marginal used to get away with some things because where they were produced the copyright law was slacker but as soon as you exported them they became illegal - I wonder if any of that applies to Old Days?
They trade freely on eBay as do Big Pink but let's face it we are getting nothing else right now CD wise apart from Miss Ross and DRATS. At least we can look forward to a re release of Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons Motown Anthology plus a further disk of unreleased Motown material [[but only if we are prepared to fork out good money for the other 37 or so disks in the same set).
It's interesting that these Oldays releases are not available on Amazon U.K or any 'legitimate' music retailer. Only eBay. So maybe there is something decidedly dodgy about these being exported.
I did actually purchase the Elgins cd on eBay a couple of months ago, but got a refund as it never arrived!
When Beatin' Rhythm had a shop in Manchester they stocked the Marginal releases and I did buy some from there. I expect they would be stocking Oldays if the shop was still there.
Not forgetting Martha and The Vandellas "Watchout" which has the Live! album as its bonus tracks.
The tracks on the Jazz CD [[released at the end of July) are:
01. WHAT'S WRONG WITH GROOVIN' / LETTA MBULU
02. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE BLUES / YAPHET KOTTO
03. I'MI SEE YOU LATER / THE JOHNNY GRIFFITH TRIO
04. FALLING IN LOVE WITH LOVE / PAULA GREER
05. I STILL LOVE YOU / LEFTY EDWARDS
06. EL RIG / GEORGE BOHANAN QUARTET
07. HOW HIGH THE MOON / MARVIN GAYE
08. CONGO TWIST / THE TWISTIN' KINGS
09. OPUS NO.3 / EARL WASHINGTON ALL STARS
10. LATE FREIGHT / DAVE HAMILTON
11. EXODUS / HANK&CAROL DIAMOND
12. SOULIN' / ROY BROOKS
13. HAITIAN FIGHT SONG / PEPPER ADAMS
14. SOUL BONGO / LITTLE STEVIE WONDER
15. STEAL AWAY TONIGHT / BARBARA MCNAIR
16. ONE SCOTCH.ONE.BOURBON.ONE BEER / AMOS MILBURN
SIDE-2
01. WHAT IS WRONG WITH GROOVIN'? / HUGH MESEKELA
02. HAVE YOU DUG HIS SCENE / YAPHET KOTTO
03. MORE THAN A DREAM / EIVETS REDNOW
04. SOUL STOMP / EARL VAN DYKE
05. MICKEY'S MONEY / CHOKER CAMPBELL AND HIS 16 PIECE BAND
06. WHAT A DAY / BARBARA MCNAIR
07. MANHATTAN AT SIX / LITTLE STEVIE WONDER
08. SOULSPHERE / ROY BROOKS SEXTET
09. WITCHCRAFT / MARVIN GAYE
10. I REMEMBER YOU / HANK&CAROL DIAMOND
11. CUBAN CARNIVAL / EARL WASHINGTON
12. DON'T BE NO FOOL / AMOS MILBURN
13. GOODNIGHT MY LOVE / LEFTY EDWARDS
14. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT YOU / PAULA GREER
15. LOVE IS GONE / BILLY ECKSTINE
More CD coming from Oldays Records :
_ JR Walker & The All Stars / Soul Session + Road Runner :
https://merurido.jp/item.php?ky=ODR6953&visit_old=1
_ The Supremes / Sing Rodgers And Hart + Sing Country , Western And Pop :
https://merurido.jp/item.php?ky=ODR6956&visit_old=1
Also two reissues from the "Music On CD" label :
_ Marvin Gaye / That Stubborn Kinda' Fellow :
https://musiconcd.eu/product/marvin-...-kinda-fellow/
_ Marvin Gaye / Dream Of A Lifetime :
https://musiconcd.eu/product/marvin-...of-a-lifetime/
I have to admit that many, many years ago, before the internet, I saw a few Marginal releases at my used CD store and grabbed them up. The sound was not always great but I had some songs I wanted in digital form. I have some bootlegs in my collection, but I have also bought the authorized tracks when they were released. If Motown/Universal releases them, I will buy!!!!
That's interesting - thanks for the update.
I always thought the "Soul Session" cover looked fab and the new CD should be good - 2 albums on 1 CD again. As with The Supremes but I'd like to have seen CW&P with its own paper sleeve.
The Jazz double CD can be picked up reasonably at the moment.
That MUSIC ON CD label is a Universal product of course. I only have one of theirs and that's the Michael Jackson "Farewell My Summer Love" CD [[which has a proper Motown label). They also released Rare Earth's "Get Ready" which seems to have seen numeroud releases.
Oldays is unofficial though operates within Japanese law where copyright expires after 50 years. Their parent Clinck seems proper though if this Teena Marie "Irons In The Fire" release is anything to go by https://www.discogs.com/Teena-Marie-...lease/11753642
Can I ask where you saw Music On CD was a Universal company please?
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Music on CD / Universal
Music on CD is based in Netherlands.
I read on the Steve Hoffman Music Forum - so it may or may not be true, but it sounds reasonable - that Music on CD is an independent company which licenses cd masters, artwork, etc from Sony & Universal [[and perhaps others but I didn't see Warner mentioned) to re-release out-of-print titles. People write that they include the original label name along with "Music on CD" [[as in the image in the post above).
Just taking a quick glance at their catalogue I see titles from CBS Masterworks and Columbia, which are part of Sony now. [[In fact, Marvin Gaye's "Dream of a Lifetime" referred to above is on Columbia.)
The Motown CDs are made for Universal Music B.V.
Or so it says anyway.
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Yes, I saw that on the image booty posted above also. The releases they do of Sony titles probably say the same, "for Sony". Music on CD seems to be a manufacturer and distributor of cds who sort of "share" the label credit with the owners of the content.
I think there was some misunderstanding here. You wrote that the "Music on CD label is a Universal product of course". Then Paul asked where you saw that Music on CD is a "Universal company". One could say that their Universal releases are "Universal product", while a title such as "Dream of a Lifetime" would then be a "Sony product". I'm pretty sure that Music on CD is not a "Universal company", though.
According to discogs, the parent company of Music on CD is Music on Vinyl BV and: "Music On Vinyl B.V. is the company that manufactures and distributes Music On Vinyl releases; it is NOT a label."
https://www.discogs.com/label/508112-Music-On-CD
https://www.discogs.com/label/322260-Music-On-Vinyl-BV
If you look at Marvin Gaye's "Dream of a Lifetime", Amazon lists "Music on CD" as both the manufacturer and the label [[Columbia/Sony is not mentioned). It's the same for Rare Earth's "Get Ready."
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dream-Lifet...s%2C149&sr=1-2
From the Music on Vinyl website:
"Are Music On Vinyl releases officially licensed?
Yes. We obtain official licenses from a wide range of copyright holders, whether it be major record companies or independent artists who own their own rights."
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/about-us#.X0THfOhKhpg
Instead of a label deciding what to release, having a bunch of cds manufactured by someone, and then the label distributing - this company is apparently deciding what they want to make [[they even take requests), licensing it, and then distributing it themselves.
If Universal contracted a company to manufacture cds for them - I read on discogs that Universal manufactures only some of their own releases - I think a manufacturer would normally just be paid a fixed amount to produce a certain number of cds. Universal distributes the product in such cases [[according to discogs). I don't think the manufacturer would need to "license" the material, and they wouldn't have any risk if the release doesn't sell - the label would have the sales risk. I'm only speculating, but it may be that Music on CD takes the risk of a loss if the title doesn't sell [[after all, it seems that they are deciding what to re-release) in return for a nice cut of the profits if it does well?
In any case, it doesn't really matter, it's only a technicality who owns Music on CD - these are officially licensed re-releases of Universal [[or Sony, etc) titles from, it seems, the original Universal [[or Sony, etc) cd masters.
That seems like a pretty fair assessment.
But how many times do we really need a reissue of Stubborn Kind Of Fellow?
Yes I already have lol
Official Motown / Universal release, or public domain release?
I do have a reissue of That Stubborn Kind Of Fellow in the Marvin Gaye, Volume 1 [[Univeral / Motown) CD set that had his albums on 1961 - 1965, pretty nice to hear remastered "Stubborn Kind Of Fellow" and "Pride & Joy", as well as it in its cute little sleeve cover.
One more CD coming from The Oldays Records label :
MARY WELLS - The One Who Really Loves You + Recorded Live On Stage
THE ONE WHO REALLY LOVES YOU
01. THE ONE WHO REALLY LOVES YOU
02. TWO WRONGS DON’T MAKE A RIGHT
03. YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH
04. I’VE GOT A NOTION
05. THE DAY WILL COME
06. STRANGE LOVE
07. YOU’RE MY DESIRE
08. I’LL STILL BE AROUND
09. SHE DON’T LOVE YOU
10. DRIFTING LOVE
BONUS TRACKS:『RECORDED LIVE ON STAGE』
11. TWO LOVERS
12. LAUGHING BOY
13. I DON’T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE
14. BYE BYE BABY
15. THE ONE WHO REALLY LOVES YOU
16. OLD LOVE [[LET’S TRY IT AGAIN)
17. OPERATOR
18. YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH
https://merurido.jp/item.php?pdid=ODR6978
George or Andy,
Are the bonus tracks from the master tapes?
The reissues coming from this Oldays label in Japan are bootlegs and they have been able to release these titles because of the loophole with Japan's copyright laws on albums over a certain age. Since they are bootlegs, they are not officially licensed from Universal and not sourced from the original master tapes. They would have to be sourced from vinyls, transferred to digital.