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Originally Posted by reese
How could they retitle the album and then delete the title track?
Was "Ain't No Mountain" repeated on the "Surrender" LP? Somehow I think it may have been from my recollection.
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Originally Posted by reese
How could they retitle the album and then delete the title track?
Was "Ain't No Mountain" repeated on the "Surrender" LP? Somehow I think it may have been from my recollection.
My 2fer has Mountain and omits You’re All I Need and These Things.Quote:
Originally Posted by reese
You're All I Need and These Things had been released on CD on Diana Ross Love Songs. They considered not omitting these two on the 2fer but would have instead used the single versions of Ain't No Mountain and Reach Out I'll Be There and would still have to edit or fade other tunes early to make everything fit. [[I was always disappointed when they did that) Back then no one knew the future of CDs or if we'd ever see these tunes released in their entirety. It seemed smarter to leave off the two that were already available and leave everything else in tact. I never had any power in these decisions but was often consulted.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjeb
When Diana Ross 1970 was first released in contained a white circular sticker saying something like "includes the hit single Reach Out & Touch [[Somebody's Hand)." The next pressing had a white square sticker saying "includes the hit singles Ain't No Mountain High Enough and Reach Out & Touch [[Somebody's Hand)." The final sticker was clear with white lettering that just said "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" making it look like the title of the album.
When the CD was released someone decided to call it "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" for the catalog so it wouldn't be confused with Diana Ross 76.
That's what I meant to write. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjeb
george - those are exactly how I recall them - however, I can’t recall the stickers on new ways or mag 7 - I know there was some, but can’t visualize them.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Solomon
while not a sticker, on the billboard ads for Stoned Love and NWBLS they did a little call-out burst highlighting the singleQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMotownManiac
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thanks - they also had a color ad on the cover of billboard for the album... But I just for the life of me cannot remember what that sticker looks like it’s driving me crazy. Of course I was halfway there anyway but that’s beside the point. I remember when that album came out I was very impressed with the layout and the effort put into it, it seemed like an album from a group on the move. And of course I love that back cover photo. I wasn’t 100% crazy for ross’ debut album packaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by sup_fan
I like threads like this. You guys make these details so fascinating to read about. Have at it!
i might have missed it but i never noticed a Billboard cover ad for NWBLS. when i did all of the chart history research i typically saved screen shots of the ads - cover ads, reviews, full-page ads, etc.
NW got 2 full page ads in the magazine which is one of the very few sup albums ever to get that. When you got into Lady Sings and some of the other huge Diana projects, you had larger, more complex ad campaigns. but typically if they did an ad for a single or lp, they ran it once. Right around the time when record was going to be entering the charts which was usually 4 weeks or so after release date.
I figured that's what happened, as you know your stuff - inside out and upside down!Quote:
Originally Posted by reese
i swear I reall that and one for Mag 7 as well.......maybe I AM losing it, but, if you still have access, check it out. Do you also have all the year end chart information? I can’t find any of that anywhere. Like from 67 to 73?Quote:
Originally Posted by sup_fan
now keep in mind that i could have missed it. i tried to find all of their ads throughout the years but was most focused on getting to the charts so i could track the rise and fall of the releases.
sometimes i'd be quickly scrolling through the pdf and something would catch my eye. typically it would be a picture of a black female trio. sometimes it was the girls and sometimes some other group. i know i missed a lot of articles though. I tried looking during summer of 67 to see anything about Flo's dismissal. and i never found anything. but again, i might have missed
so far i've only done the chart activity for the US pop charts for albums and singles. basically that's the one we all focus on so i didn't bother with RB or AC. i might go back and do the disco/dance charts. it was fascinating to see the info in 76. I don't recall seeing anything on HMM or Where Do I Go. there was no national disco chart at the time of their release. only regional. and those were spotty in their reporting on Billboard. I didn't find the data on HMM going to #1 but again, could have missed
Walking is where the real interesting story begins. by that time there was a much broader regional listing - meaning many more cities were being listed. and i think it was summer 76 when the national chart started. Walking was EVERYWHERE and high in their charts. and it was charted for weeks on these regional disco before anything happened on the national pop chart. it didn't enter the pop top 100 until months after it's release. very unusual
then for whatever reason the momentum was lost. of the MS&S songs, LYG seems to have had the best response on the regional charts. many to cities never listed Wheel at all. or maybe it showed up for a week or two at most. Come into my life occasionally popped up, as did Dont want to be tied down. some were listing Wheel and LYG. some were listing Wheel, let and LINKYCFSG. some just Let and Love i never knew. was all over the place
oh got it. Thanks guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by reese
it’s fascinating to hear how these decisions get made. Thanks, George Solomon!Quote:
Originally Posted by George Solomon
I think George is right. They only changed it [[overseas only, I think) to ANMHE so it would distinguish from the one that had Love Hangover on it.
Billboard July 11 ,1970:
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' DIANA RDSS- Motown MS 710 l'1 DIANA
Ross is as potent on the solo trail as she was when leading the Supremes. Her single click "Reach Out and Touch" attests to her continued sales punch and It will lead this album to big sales. Among the other goodies hare are "Now That There's You," "Something on My Mind," "These Things Will Keep Me Loving You" and "Keep an Eye."