soulster So your somewhat black..Only on certain threads..
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soulster So your somewhat black..Only on certain threads..
is this a better version smark21
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I am hearing now that they may stream the service Worldwide over the internet!!!
I find it more sad the way people react! and far too many times before they have all the facts, find me one family that does not have so small problem, but it is up to Family how they cope with it and the same with how the first mourn the passing of someone dear and then celebrate their life. It is not up to anyone of us to Judge!
The funeral service is going to be on internet worldwide and that is a correct way of doing it allowing the whole Family who loved her to take part and share with the Close Family. May they All find Peace! at this sad time.
No. I'm letting you know that Black people in this country are not culturally monolothic. We are as a diverse group as anyone. To say that something is an African-American tradition is not accurate. Either that, or i'm a true oreo. I've felt discrimination from my own people just as much as from anybody else.
BTW, you posted a much nicer pic.
Soulster, I'm beginning to think that you just like to ask questions. Whitney grew up in the "black church" and whether you have been to one or not I'm sure than anyone [[including you) who has seen a movie with a black church scene would know what that experience is like. Not all , but usually in the Baptist and Pentecostal the services are more emotional, filled with good singing and it's nothing to see someone jump or shout. I'm sure I can ask any Caucasian to describe it and they could, so I'm not understanding why you are acting oblivious to it especially with a name like soulster. In my opinion, the black church is one of the most soulful experiences that one can have and the origin of where soul music was invented. Whether you partake in it or not it is considered an African American tradition.
Also, because someone is educated in their culture does not mean that is all that they know. I'm sure more than half the people on here has American Indian in their blood [[including me). I know my African American heritage but I can also hold a conversation with you on politics, the arts, culture, sports, world travel and life in general. By the way, I believe that monolithic was the word that you were trying to use.
I do like to ask questions because I like to learn things. Maybe you guys think i'm kidding, but i'm not. I really do not know about the "Black church". I've always heard about it, may have seen a bit of it on TV, but I live in a world where it does not really exist. Most of my experience with church is a Southern Baptist [[white), where you sing a couple of boring hymns to an organ and the pastor spends half the hour-long Sunday service rambling on about Brother Williams' weekend fishing trip. Open your bible to some obscure passages, sing another hymn, pray, and go home. My other experience was at Calvery was met with fundamentalism and a bit of racism. I went to one where my childhood friend was a pastor, but it wasn't for me.
I have never been to a church where anyone jumped out, in the aisle or shouted. If I see it on TV, I can only chalk it up to it being "Hollywood", having never experienced it.
You can think i'm pretending, but again, my main point is that the Black experience is not all the same. That is the one thing that annoys me about the people on this forum: they tend to assume that everyone thinks the same or has had the same experiences.
Marvin Winans was The Pastor @ Her Wedding now he will be delivering her eulogy some 20 years later.. Earryyyyy
Ok soulster, I can respect that. If we don't ask we won't know. If someone was to tell me that she was going to have a Roman Catholic or funeral I would instantly know what that would consist of whether I experienced it or not. I'm not saying that every black person has had the same experience but I would hope that every black person[[or at least most) would educate themselves on their heritage and whether you have attended or not, negro spirituality is a part of it.I personally don't want to live in a world where everyone thinks the same [[how boring is that?). I'm always excited when I learn something new and always open to hearing other opinions.
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Bobby Brown 'Beside Himself' with Grief: Relative
By Steve Helling
Saturday February 11, 2012 09:30 PM EST
Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown
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Facebook Tweet Upon hearing of Whitney Houston's death on Saturday, her ex-husband, Bobby Brown, immediately began calling friends and family.
"He wanted to tell everyone about it before it hit the news," one of his relatives tells PEOPLE. "He didn't want any of us to hear about it on television."
As Brown spoke to family members, the shock of Houston's sudden death turned to grief. "He could hardly get the words out when he called me," says the relative. "He was sobbing, and by the end of the call, I was sobbing too. He's beside himself right now."
Brown has had no official comment on the death of Houston. A source tells PEOPLE that Brown learned the news about his ex-wife while in Memphis, where he is currently located for a New Edition concert. He is "shattered and beyond devastated," says the source.
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Houston's passing was confirmed by her publicist, and Beverly Hills Police Lieut. Mark Rosen told PEOPLE on Saturday that the 48-year-old singer "was pronounced dead at 3:55 p.m. this afternoon at the Beverly Hilton Hotel," following a 3:43 p.m. call from hotel security.
The best-selling pop artist wed soul crooner Bobby Brown in 1992 in a marriage that surprised many, given Brown's bad-boy reputation. The following year, the couple welcomed a daughter, Bobbi Kristina.
After a tumultuous relationship that included a charge of domestic abuse against Brown in 1993, the two divorced in 2007.
Despite their breakup, the couple remained friendly, the relative tells PEOPLE. "They had Bobbi Kristina in common, and were determined to be co-parents to her. They didn't hate each other. In fact, there was a lot of respect. So this has hit Bobby really hard. He is devastated. He loved her very much. This is a very sad time for him."
• Additional reporting by MARISA LAUDADIO. KEN LEE and STEPHEN M. SILVERMAN
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Bobby attended ,but they could not or would not accommodated his entourage of approximately 4-5 people . He was asked to move 3 seperate times and eventually left the services after less than 15 mins. The security also tried to prevent him from seeing his own daughter.
It is reported that bobby did attend,but was asked to leave which he did to avoid a scene.
Here's my question... who the fuck was in his "entourage"? Was it security people? Was Bobby ascared that someone was gonna try and pop him at the funeral? And why didn't the entourage just wait outside and leave him in there? I bet not one reporter will ask this.
I did not enjoy Alicia Keyes screaming. What was that all about? It would have been a lot better had she toned that down a bit. Maybe she got caught up in the moment....? It was beyond 'over-singing'.
Exactly Jillfoster! Rev. Winans actually warned the attendees that he may begin to speak in tongues, but never did. Rev. Donnie McKlurkin came close to it a few times, but did not go there. Yes there were uniform nurses up and down and mostly over near the front by Cissy Houston and Bobbi.
I didn't see 9 people. I saw Bobby, a young teenage girl and 3 or 4 youngs get out of an SUV and were standing on the sidewalkl in front of the church. They were not turned away, they entered the church. They went and sat in a front pew that was reserved for the family and were asked to move. They were a bit late because I was looking at the clock on the cable box and it was already 10-15 mins after 12 noon. Bobby and his group were asked to move 3 times in total.
No one asked, but "entourage" is the word they used to describe Bobby and his group. Rev. Sharpton and Bishop T.D. Jakes did speak to Bobby by cell phone after he had left the church and Bobby said all he wanted to do was to see his daughter and show love and respect to Whitney and her family. He decided to leave after being asked to find another seat 3 times, rather than make a scene. I say he did the right thing. He was not treated right.
I know. I know. McClukin and maybe the Winans grew up in the Holiness Church, "Sanctified" aka Pentecostal Church. One thing I noticed immediately that was not done and that is they did not repose Whitney. I believe that may have been because of the television camera in the church. What do you think?
That was pretty sad what they did with Bobby. I mean he too had to travel to get there. I don't believe Cissy and Bobbi even knew what was going on as they were on the other side of the church up front. If it were true [[and it was not because see all type of space in pews towards the back) they could have gotten out folding chairs which all churches have.
That was it! I know just about everyone in that church were wondering why the casket was not open. Whitney's sister-in-law kind of addressed that issue by saying "for those of you that did not get to view the body, just picture how she looked in that video for "The Greatest Love of All". They had Whitney dressed in all white. It had to have been because of the TV cameras that they did not have the casket open at all.
Bobby! He got angry cause they couldn't accommodate him and his entourage [[9 others) in the first row with the family!!! WTF, did this man forget that he's the "EX-HUSBAND"??? Now that is the real story...not that BS he whined to the media about!!!
Nuh-uh!! he was the ex-husband and father of her child! I don't know about the entourage, but he had every right to be there!
But, you know what? I'll bet if Diana Ross had shown up at someone's funeral with an entourage, no one here would have a problem with it.....oh shit! I just opened up this thread to the hijackers! Oh well! It was gonna happen sooner or later! I just hastened the inevitable! :)