I don't know where he's getting his information from, but it's not even close to being accurate.
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The challenge for the Obama campaign will be ensuring high turnout of the Black and Latino vote. I don’t think there’s much worry that a significant percentage of each group will vote for Romney, but there is concern they may not turn out at the same rate as 2008, thanks to voter suppression attempts and admittedly Obama no longer being the same charismatic force and symbol of hope and change that he was in 2008.
Obama according to a latest poll, [[sorry, I didn't catch the name of the organization) is five points ahead above Romney-Hood across the nation.
As long as the Romney-Hood/Lyin' Ryan surrogates keep saying offensive things about women and rape, and playing on White racial hatred, Obama will look better and better.
That is very questionable. Ever since the Biden/Ryan debate, and the last two presidential debates, Obama got his mojo back, and it's having an effect of raving up the base. The supporters know we can change, and the change is starting to happen. According to a news report this morning, even the Mexican illegals are starting to sneak back! The supporters know that it has been the republiKKKans historical number of filibusters that has been holding back much of the progress. The union-busting attempts has had a huge effect in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio.
If the election was held today, I'm convinced that Obama would win the electoral college. [[Anybody besides me notice the evening news only shows the popular polls, not the electoral college polls? Wonder why?!) :confused:
With GOP-led boards of election sending out campaign literature with the wrong date and polling information, billboards threatening imprisonment for "voter fraud", tons of lies broadcast non-stop on local and national television, and party-sponsored surrogates going to mostly Democratic voting sites to challenge voters, who knows what will happen in two weeks.
RealClearPolitics shows Obama would win today with 284 electoral college votes.
CNN says if the bleed continues at the same rate, Romney will win on election day.
If the world voted, it would be Obama by a landslide.
Astounding.
Obama needs to have the black, Latino, female vote come out like it did in 2008 and it seems there is some lack of enthusiasm there. There also may be some regret there in a couple weeks if they don't get the spirit again.
I hope the last debate turns the tide a little bit but am not holding my breath for it to happen.
Romney went out of his way to play a game of "hey, I can follow his lead on foreign policy". He hopes that the lack of contrast between his views [[modified greatly during the debate) and the president's nullifies the one area that the president clearly holds the upper hand. If people were worried that Paul "War Hawk" Ryan's debate meant that we were going to have another war in the next four years, Willard tried to put those fears to rest.
Don't believe for a minute that the main reason he'd increase military spending is anything other than so he can have a war to help him get re-elected. That way, it won't increase the deficit because the snake has already built it into the budget.
Both CNN and MSNBC do show the electoral collage numbers on a regular basis.
Somehow, though, I do not think too many people will be fooled by announcing the wrong voting day this time.Quote:
With GOP-led boards of election sending out campaign literature with the wrong date and polling information, billboards threatening imprisonment for "voter fraud", tons of lies broadcast non-stop on local and national television, and party-sponsored surrogates going to mostly Democratic voting sites to challenge voters, who knows what will happen in two weeks.
John King was the guy quoting the slippage in the electoral college numbers.
Sadly, while President Obama is still leading [[of course) in the votes from blacks, latinos and women...............those numbers have slipped significantly from the last election.
What or who was he quoting? Obama still is way ahead in the electoral college.
Significantly??? May I ask if you are a Romney supporter?Quote:
Sadly, while President Obama is still leading [[of course) in the votes from blacks, latinos and women...............those numbers have slipped significantly from the last election.
God no, re Romney. I cringe every day at the prospect even though I am a Canadian.
But said, Obama is not ahead hardly at all.
Take a look here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
He is ahead 10 in the Electoral College; and yesterday, before they moved NC back to a tossup, he was behind 5.
With no tossup states, he is ahead 24. And things better stay as they are in Ohio.
This all being said, I think that today's polls showed a little bit of recovery due to the Monday debate performance.
John King was making his own observation I believe.
If John King and Real Clear Politics were Fox News, I wouldn't be nervous.
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OK, since I don't think you dig real hard, I will lay it out for you. I went to the "About Us" part of the site. This is what the last paragraph says:Quote:
Now, first, most business have an agenda in this country, and that is to get a republican back into office. Two, What agenda could they be talking about? Hmmmm.Quote:
RealClearPolitics is the essential site for those at the intersection of politics and business. RealClearPolitics influential and important audience, which has come to trust and depend on the site's agenda-setting, extensive and balanced coverage, is what sets RealClearPolitics apart from its competitors.
Now, I took a look around the site ang found very right-wing, conservative commentary and reporting. hardly "balanced".
No, you are not getting balanced reporting. You are getting very partisan reporting being passed off as balanced, and it's for businesses.
Next, I don't know just how much U.S. news you read that is actually IN the U.S., but what you found isn't correct. I live down here, so I can tell you that the information on that site is wrong, wrong, wrong! Jerry Oz is telling you the same thing.
NC isn't really an issue as of now. It's all about Ohio. If Obama wins Ohio, it's all over.Quote:
He is ahead 10 in the Electoral College; and yesterday, before they moved NC back to a tossup, he was behind 5.
The news tonight is that a tea-bagger group from Texas is planting a reported one million election poll "overseers" in the attempt to discourage and intimidate" Black and Latino voters. They are telling people the wrong voting day, and discouraging early voting.
Meanwhile, an Indiana republican Richard Murdoch, has said something very stupid. He said last night that if a woman gets impregnated by a rapist, it is God's will.
Now, They are keeping Romney and Ryan away from states where they will have to answer questions. They are rallying with Glen Beck and Dick Cheany.
If you thought the race-baiting was bad enough, now they are playing on christians' fears of the end of the world and the antichrist. Dispicable!
Obama's recovered quite a bit, and Romney's numbers are staring to subside a bit, but it's still too close to call. Obama's approval rating, as of tonight, is back to 53% . meanwhile, Fox and Romney are trying to say that he is ahead and will win.Quote:
This all being said, I think that today's polls showed a little bit of recovery due to the Monday debate performance.
Honestly, I don't watch enough John King to know where he sits on the spectrum.Quote:
John King was making his own observation I believe.
RealClear Politics is the same as Fox news.Quote:
If John King and Real Clear Politics were Fox News, I wouldn't be nervous.
Obama has a 30 point lead in Ohio.
Obama now has a 70% chance of winning the election. Most polls show Obama healthily ahead of Romney. Romney is lying about the polls tonight.
Even your RealClear Politics site gives Obama a 47% to Romney's 45% in Ohio. The only place the two are tied is in Colorado.
Colin Powell endorsed Obama this morning, saying that he is more comfortable with him as President. Not in those words, exactly.
The President has a 5 point lead in Ohio not a 30 point lead. It's lies like this that keep Democrats away from the polls on election day cause they feel they don't have to vote. This is a real close election and we need everyone to vote so please stop inflating figures and distorting truth.
The good book of Exodus clearly states:
“You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness."
Roberta
Still watching with baited breath.
I think President Obama has a slight edge right now; I don't normally pray but I will that this is maintained.
He might get a little traction from Governor Christie and sadly from the hurricane disaster.
People are seeing how well Pres. Obama stays on top of a national emergency, and works with those who oppose him. There was no politics in this.
Romney, OTOH, staged a Red Cross donation at Wall-mart by his people buying 5G worth of food for a photo op, all the while still lying his ass off about Obama, and his surrogates bashing Obama. And, Romney's not looking good right now, and being clobbered in Wisconsin and Ohio.
If the election were held tomorrow, Obama would win.
I'm still betting on a landslide victory for President Obama.
Rob,
I'm well aware that racism is still an issue in America. It became crystal clear after the inauguration of the President. So sad and hard to believe that there are still those that will not accept someone no matter how well the guy is doing.
I am absolutely amazed that there are so many who want to vote for Romney based on things like birtherism, alleged socialism, gun rights, and the president's allegedly being a muslim. Some bring up the economy, but any reasonable person will look at where we were four years ago vs. where we are now and realize the turnaround is amazing, even though it's not yet robust.
I honestly believe a lot of people want so badly to not like him that they chase ghosts to justify their vote. When they catch them, there's nothing there but a fading glimmer, so they try find something else. They could do themselves a favor by just admitting it. The Georgia woman who printed up the "Don't Re-Nig in 2012" bumper stickers did so because she and her neighbors felt emboldened by the overt racism displayed by many Tea Party figures. Sarah Palin just accused the president of "shucking and jiving" and according to Faux News guests, he was said to have "thrown spears" at Romney in the debates. Seriously, America? Really?!
I see statistics and polls indicating 90% of the population in other countries would vote for President Obama and yet, in the USA, for the first time in a month, he is ahead of Romney by 1/10th of 1%. Astounding.
I do hope all of the SD people are voting because remember, George Bush won an election by 539 votes in Florida!
Very interesting how Governor Christie is now in love with President Obama. I'm wondering if Christie might hope to run for President in 2016 or if he's hoping this love in gets him relected in 2014. In any case, that was very nice to see - two politicians from opposing parties working together. It seems very rare in the USA.
Good luck with it all on Tuesday you guys.
Kudos to Chris Christie and President Obama for stepping up to the plate. Vote on Tuesday and may the best man win. New Jersey and New York you have my prayers.
Everyone needs to not be complacent, and get out and vote. It's no surprise that EVERY face at Romney rallies are "White and Delightsome" as his church puts it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E
Jill, I'm amazed that people who call the president a Muslim [[like that's some sort of crime) suddenly have a newfound appreciation for Mormonism. Until a few weeks ago, Billy Graham called it a cult, but now it's hunky-dory [[no pun intended). All things being equal, keep your religion [[whatever it may be) out of my government.
Do you guys see what mess is going on in Florida and Ohio? People have been literally standing in line to vote because those states severely cut back on early voting. It turned out such a strong showing of angry people that now the state is saying they don't have enough people to man the polls, ans even closed the place early. Most of the people in those lines are Black people. This is voter suppression at it's worst, people!
I don't understand how anyone..ANYONE...could defend and vote for any republiKKKan, a party that actively attempts to suppress the votes on American citizens just so they can get back into power.
I just hope enough people around this country see this and are angry enough to vote for Obama/Democrats to help make up for this. I hope there is a landslide for Obama and Democrats to prove a point. Everyone please make DAMN sure you VOTE!
WE are no better than any second or third-world country at this point. Right now, the U.S. is NOT the greatest country on the planet. It is shameful, and if Romney wins, I will be ashamed to call myself an American.
I think these long lines waiting to vote in Ohio and Florida tell the story in spite of the shameful shenanigans of the Repubs. Obabma by a LANDSLIDE. Wait and see.
By CBC News, cbc.ca, Updated: November-05-12 9:30 AM
Can black America withstand an Obama loss?
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David Robertson carried his own Bible to the Sunday morning service at Trinity United Church of Christ, tucked under the arm of his White Sox warmup jacket that is emblazoned with the black and white lettering of Chicago's South Side team.
Robertson, a 45-year-old police officer, is voting for Barack Obama again tomorrow. And for him, it's clear why the president has faced such fervent hostility from opponents and detractors during his four years in office.
"To be honest, it's racism; it's the colour of his skin," Robertson told CBCNews.ca as he walked to Trinity UCC, a landmark of African-American faith and culture in Chicago, and where the Obamas were married 20 years ago by the sometimes controversial, now-retired Rev. Jeremiah Wright. "If he wasn’t black, Obama wouldn't be going through all of this."
That's one view, of course, and not something you hear from the top of either of the main campaigns. But as an undercurrent in an unexpectedly tight election – one fuelled by growing concerns about voter suppression tactics aimed at obvious minorities – it may yet be something to be reckoned with.
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Four years ago, Chicago soared, and so did most of the world along with it. More than 200,000 people swarmed Grant Park to watch Obama make history with his election night victory speech.
"Between [NBA star] Derrick Rose and Barack Obama, we felt like Chicago's been put on the map," said South Side resident and first-time voter John Moran, who was 14 when Obama won in 2008. "As a city, we’re back and we're not just overlooked any more."
Four years later, with the economy still struggling and Obama locked in a tight and often bitter race for re-election, polls show an overwhelming majority of African-Americans still stand behind the president. But some are clearly wondering where the rest of the crowd went after that night at Grant Park.
Heading into the final day of campaigning, the president is leading in polls in several key swing states, and there are many pundits and pollsters who say he has more paths to an Electoral College win than Republican Mitt Romney does. It has probably also helped that the president won widespread praise for leading the federal response to Hurricane Sandy, including from New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a key Romney supporter.
Race played no part in that, and Obama’s opponents have bristled at any suggestion that his colour is a factor in the tight contest. They insist Americans have proven that they are above such prejudice by electing him in the first place, and shouldn’t feel bad about voting him out for not doing a good enough job of fixing the economy.
Still, Obama supporters point to examples of what they view as racially-tinged hostility toward the president from prominent Republican voices – from Sarah Palin’s “shucking and jiving” jab a few weeks ago to Rush Limbaugh's almost daily diatribes and most recently, a suggestion by John Sununu, one of Romney’s top supporters, that former Republican secretary of state Colin Powell only endorsed Obama, again, because the two men are black.
In the heat of the campaign, some conservatives have said they suspect liberals would blame an Obama defeat on racism no matter what happens. But how deep that blame might go is still an open question.
"Race is something that is uncomfortably and inaccurately dealt with in America," says Clarence B. Jones, a lawyer, professor and former adviser to the slain Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the 1960s.
In an interview with CBCNews.ca, Jones said African-Americans will accept a Romney win – provided it is seen as being on the level.
"They’ll say, 'OK, we lost and I'm disappointed, but we'll try again next time,'" says Jones, who is currently teaching a course at the University of San Francisco on the history of race relations from slavery to Obama's election.
However, Jones added that he and other in the black community are concerned about the voter identification laws that were brought in by Republican-dominated state legislatures over the past two years, as well as by "rumblings" of attempts to spread confusion about polling hours and poll locations in districts with significant African-American or Latino populations.
"You don’t want 12 per cent of the population believing that the principal reason Obama lost is that he was black," he said. "That would be extremely damaging to the country and will feed a sense of cynicism that will be very hard to overcome."
Critics have condemned the voter ID laws as voter-suppression tactics targeting mostly poor or minority voters who are more likely to vote Democrat. In several states these laws have been held up in the courts after challenges from the Justice Department and voters' groups, and won't be in place for election day.
If Obama were to lose on Tuesday, anger within the black community could potentially boil over into a greater crisis than the intense Bush-Gore election result battle in Florida in 2000 – but only if "clear, convincing, perceptible evidence" emerges that the vote was somehow influenced by racially-motivated or underhanded conspiracies, Jones said.
Moran, now 18 and a freshman at Calumet College of St. Joseph in Indiana, says he expects some bitterness in Chicago if Obama loses, but he doesn't expect any huge protests if Romney wins.
"Some of the views he has, I just don't agree with as a middle-class African-American," he said as he and friend Juwan Johnson, 15, walk to a nearby McDonald's.
"It will be hard for us. But in terms of riots and that stuff, I don't think it's going to be that crazy."
As David Robertson neared his South Side church, he paused when asked about the possibility of a Romney presidency. "We’re the 47 per cent he was talking about," Robertson said, referring to Romney's now-infamous recorded comments at a private fundraiser that dominated the campaign ahead of the debates.
"I think we'll be in trouble, but black people have always got through trials and tribulations," he said. "We’ll just have to keep going."
It took a few hundred people who didn't feel like going to the polling stations in Florida in 2000 to provide the opportunity to rape the process that makes our nation great. The fallout from those who were not interested: The hard-gained surplus was thrown away; the powers-that-be ignored warning signs for 9-11; two unfunded wars; millions of foreclosures; millions of lost pensions due to Wall Street tanking; and a global recession.
I firmly believe that if they can steal a state again, they will pull out all stops. Every vote counts and must be cast.
I agree, Roberta. This is not the time to be over-confident. VOTE!
I'm amazed nobody called out Willard for his stance on abortion. I find someone who thinks that abortions should be allowed in the case of rape, incest, or health of the mother is the most hypocritical person in the debate. If "every life is precious", why are you making distinctions? Nobody has called Romney/Ryan to task in this regard. Even the religious nuts don't like it, but they're willing to let it go. Ask yourself this question: Why would the right wing ever eliminate abortion in any regard? It's the gift that keeps on giving! They energize their base quicker on abortion than anything else and they've been doing it for 40 years, now. With that being said, one day they will do something about it. And if some allegedly evangelical Christian can make legal determinations about your rights based on his religious beliefs, where's it going to end?