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RanRan79
Well you know now. I was referring to you.
Like Gomer Pyle said: "Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!"
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Oh you were definitely feeding off of Mr. Nobody-Thinks-About-Diane-But-I-Post-About-Diane-All-The-Time after you said you would leave the thread.
Oh, you're a mind-reader know! Damn! With your power, you should be bigger than Trump!
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And talking about personal, when you make comments like "but you guys have a way of making everything so personal..."
Shit! You do! You Ross fans don't know how to argue your positions without personally insulting with those whose opinions you don't like. Any time anyone criticizes your beloved Diana Ross, you all take it as a personal affront and attack. I made a snarky comment about Bill Cosby and Ross and you all got deeply offended. The comment had nothing to do with you! Now, i'm not defending marv, but it seems he can't say anything about Diana Ross without you all attacking him. He, and anyone else here, has a right to be critical of Ms. Ross. News flash: she is not the most popular or beloved artist in the world. Climb out of your bubble! Even Ralph has criticized the Ross fans of going overboard with the zealousness.
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What I took personal was your response to my playful banter.
First, I have been on internet forums long enough to know when someone can disguise hostility as playful banter. I am NOT saying you were hostile. I totally excused that, but I did find even a joke about "cutting" someone as hostile, violent gesture. My advice is to not do that to just anyone. We are not a 'family" here, and we do not know each other personally outside of this forum. I interpret the threat to "cut" someone, even if it's done on the internet, as hostile. Now, that was MY interpretation of it if you didn't mean it that way. So, in those cases, it's better not to say that at all. never assume everyone is going to be culturally similar to you. Suppose you jokingly said that to someone at your job? Think about it.
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Firstly, what rubbed me the wrong way regarding our difference of opinion about Diana Ross' categorization is that you framed your opinion as a fact. You don't seem to use key phrases such as "I believe", "I think", "in my opinion" or "I feel".
When people post on an internet forum, it is assumed that whatever they say is their own opinion. One should not have to preface anything with "IMO". But, if someone presents a fact, it should be noted as such. Taking what someone says has fact reflects the reader's insecurity.
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When I responded with examples of what I felt were Diana Ross as a r&b singer and your response was "that's not r&b", I took that personal in the same way anyone with extensive knowledge of a subject might be offended by someone telling them that they are wrong.
C'mon, man! There was NO reason to take that personally! I don't give a rat's ass if you are the grandson of a singer: I say Ross is a POP singer. I am a son of a singer. We both grew up on many styles of music, and both in R&B. So, which one of us is more qualified? Why did you have to make it a pissing contest? It's not.
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Now had you said "I don't think/feel" that's r&b, I would've shrugged and went on about the thread as you're simply stating your opinion and not coming for mine. But because you said it so matter of factly, I was like wait a minute, hold up, you barking up the wrong tree questioning my r&b knowledge.
If you felt secure about your opinion, you wouldn't feel threatened by mine.
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I never insulted you. I never called you out of your name. I figured you ultimately meant no offense [[and as been pointed out before, sometimes the written word can be misinterpreted because the usual things you get in person are absent) and then I joked about cutting you if you did it again. You were the one who responded in some crazy way and then tried to frame the issue as a Diana Ross issue when it had nothing to do with her. And yet I still addressed it without attacking you. While I reluctantly accept that you misunderstood my cutting comment [[despite the fact that no other context for that comment makes sense in this forum), you didn't even bother to apologize for jumping bad about an obvious joke.
You know what, I thought we agreed to bury all of this. Obviously, it's still festering. I had nothing against you before this thread, and I really have nothing against you now. But, if this makes you feel better to blow it all out...
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Bullshit. You can take your poor picked on Mr. Nobody-Thinks-About-Diane-But-I-Post-About-Diane-All-The-Time sentiments and stick 'em. One of my very first posts in this forum was during a thread where the subject of Marvin Gaye's "Can I Get a Witness" and it's background vocals was either the actual thread subject or it came up in the evolution of the conversation. I made the comment that I didn't think [[and still don't) that Mary Wilson is with Diana and Florence on the song because [[a) she attributes the backing vocals on the song to Martha and the Vandellas in her book, not the Supremes, and [[b) I don't hear her. That's all I said. What did Mr. Poor Picked On reply? "Who cares what you think." If that's not the sign of an obsessed fan, I don't know what is. If that's not nasty for the sake of being nasty, I don't know what is. Mr. Nobody-Thinks-About-Diane-But-I-Post-About-Diane-All-The-Time is not the only one who gets nasty when someone says something about their favorite Supreme. There are quite a few in this forum who do the same nasty shit when it comes to Diana Ross. But I pay attention in this forum to who does what and when and if you are suggesting for one minute that He Who Shall Not Be Named never resorts to personal attacks, you'll have to miss me with that because it's bull. He's on the same level as some of the Rossers. Stop it.
Believe it or not, i've come down on Marv over his agitating Ross fans in the past. He and I have also had differences. I even had him on ignore at one point. But, you know why we don't have any conflicts today? We don't make everything personal. Judging from our posts, we have a few things in common. Maybe that's the key. Perhaps when two people don't have much of anything in common, they are more likely to butt heads over the smallest things.
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I still don't understand why you're saying this to me. I didn't have a problem with your comments about Diana Ross. I had a problem with the two things I pointed out previously that were about me [[my perception of them, anyway). And I don't need to be told what kind of site this is. I don't talk about Diana Ross in every threadand I've been known to be quite critical of her, which is why some of the Rossers have been blocked and why some of them have probably blocked me. I was personally insulted by one just a couple of weeks ago. So perhaps you should take a step back sometimes and ask yourself what is the real reason behind the problem? Because clearly I'm the wrong one you can chalk up your issue as an irrational Diana Ross fan not liking your opinion.
Sheesh!
Look, Let's say we wipe the slate clean and start over. You're not a bad guy, i'm not a bad guy. There is nor reason you and I should be yet two more enemies on this forum, as there are enough already. You and I disagree on a few things. That's normal. How about it with no further comment on this?