I've never cursed at you to my knowledge. Are you trying to pick a fight?
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I never professed that you cursed at me. I said that when I say something that you disagree with, you call me stupid, or say that I don't know what I'm talking about. If I ask you a follow up question about something that you post, which may be unanswerable, you say that I don't need to know that or that it is none of my business. I never accused you of cursing at me. But you have an acute way of insulting me when you disagree with me. And then you accuse me of trying to pick a fight. I'm not. Are you? :[[
Actually, you asked me if I was trying to start a fight. I replied that I wasn’t and then asked you if you were trying to start a fight. Also, you are posting on a public board where we can all reply to a post even if it isn’t addressed to us. If it is private, then there is a place where you could have written a private note to the member. Our conversation in this thread was started by your below post, which was not addressed to me, but to another member. Here’s an instant replay.
I see four posts by you that say "today" so clearly you have talked to milven. I also wanted to point out that I never said you didn't answer my question. What you came back with was sarcasm and childishness. It may help if you learned not to be so condescending when someone replies to you in a respectful way. I take it you know Diana Ross enough to call her Diane? That's been an inside joke on people for years. Many people, including myself, have met up with Mary Wilson numerous times. It doesn't mean she's my best friend. She's just a person as is Diana. I know this is pointless as you can't argue with a horse. I'll just stand by for your next rant. Peace out. :)
I've already spent too much time on this, but I was just reading the STOP IN THE NAME thread and saw that another member was calling you out for calling him stupid because he disagreed with you. I'm seeing a pattern here. But I am not the moderator so all I can do is point it out. Below is the conversation for the STOP IN THE NAME thread
You are trippin! My post :
" Sure! and vice-versa! I just don't think we should place personal attacks on other forum members [[curse them and call them out of their name). I had a different opinion from this person JazzyJ and he lobbied an attack [[although a weak-kneed attack) on me. You understand?
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was in direct response to Nathan0j who was also sticking his nose in where it did not belong. Now I am not going to spend a whole lot of time going back and forth with you on this. JazzyJ cursed me and called me out of my name because he disagreed with my opinon of Diana Ross' record "Ain't No Mountain High Enough". Anyone that can read down this thread will see that.
Well, back to Diana’s vocal on Ain’t No Mountain High Enough. Her spoken word vocal really does tread the line between campy melodrama and sincerely and emotionally affecting performance. Depending on my mood when I hear the song, sometimes I take it straight and sometimes It’s very camp. That might be another reason for its enduring popularity as one can enjoy the song on a number of levels.
Perhaps I am trippin ! Cause here I am trying to post logically with you while you accuse people on a public forum that we are sticking our nose where it does not belong [[as you did above) or calling us stupid because we do not agree with you.
Keep on doing what you're doing to all of us on this forum. There will be no retaliation to you from the moderator. In fact, I'll probably be accused of being the trouble maker. Okay, I'm done. Gotta go "trippin"
milven, you seem like a nice and real responsible person so if I may, I'd like to offer you the following advice. Do yourself a favor and stick marv2 on ignore. He has neither a lick of shame and he act like a catty and mean schoolgirl. He loves to start trouble and then sit back while people who challenge him get banned.
He needs to pay attention to these words from the book of Proverbs.
"Here are things that that the Lord hates, that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers."
Think about those words and you'll see who he really is. Put him on ignore milven and you'll enjoy this forum a lot more.
Yours, with every good wish.
Roberta
I like Vikki Carrs version of the song better. She just does a better job with the lyrics and sounds warmer, more sincere than all that phony emoting and yelping going on in the Ross version.
Wish marv2 would just stick to good posts [[eg Motown picnic footage, excellent) instead of wading into every catfight going on here. Think most people would agree these type of contributions simply diminish his standing on here.
Thanks for the tip Roberta.
Actually, it all went downhill when I deigned to mention that I thought Vikki Carr's version was better [[And so is Marvin and Tammi's). And you told me that I just trash everything Diana does, which is not true, because "It's My Turn" and "Remember Me" are two of the most sublime records around, and I've said that many times on this forum. I'm honest with my opinions, good and bad. And I have perspective. I can separate Diana's music with the fact that I don't think she is a good person. They are two different issues.
Roberta take your own advise when dealing with Jillfoster. She's in the same category as Marv2. They both thrive off of bashing Diana Ross, and simply come in threads about her to stir the pot and cause drama, their posts tend to be idiotic and childish. Like Jill knows enough about Diana Ross to have the opinion that she's not a good person. I mean seriously? As if DR owes her money or something. Marv and Jill both need to get a life. Anytime something nice or positive is written about Diana, they find their way in to say something completely negative. They both remind me of the spoiled child in the mall that throws a fit and continues to perform to get more attention. I think we're all better off to just ignore them both and not respond to ANYTHING that they post about. It will make for a much better and peaceful Soulful Detroit.
The great thing about Ain't No Mountain High Enough is The Ashford And Simpson's production on it,and Diana's sexy speaking voice just makes it fit,this is Diana and Ashford and Simpson at they're best,what a great song,[[to me)
Please stay positive
I make all kinds of contributions in various areas, but you wouldn't know that since you only look at Diana Ross threads. The reason I say she is not a good person is because I don't feel drunk drivers are good people. And anytime that something good is said about Diana I come into the thread and say something negative? There are currently 6 threads about Diana on the first page of the Motown forum. I have posted in ONE of them. Get a grip, bitch.
Do not feed the trolls this morning. Let them starve to death.
I was always reminded of Isaac Hayes' version of "By the Time I Get to Phoenix" when I heard the full version of Diana's "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"...
RedHot I have to agree with you - the fact that Ashford and Simpson are not only the songwriting teams for this song for Marvin and Tammi and Diana but they produced both versions as well. They had good ears for making good music and finding that just right hook to make it a hit. Love it Love it Love it
Thinking back to 1970, back in Philly, when the song came on, as a fifteen year old, my associates and I thought the song intro was corny and made fun of it. There was a Diana TV special in 1976 which made me take notice of the song as it played well on the small screen. In 1980 the HBO special made me appreciate Ms. Ross as the superstar that she is, and I started really liking it. Having seen Ms. Ross a number of times after that, I look forward to that part of the show where she does the song. I must also say that that I am a huge A+S fan. Therefore, the creativity to take a song that was released only 3 years earlier and was a huge hit, and rework it, required tremendous courage, especially since, Reach Out and Touch, may not have generated the sales that Motown was looking for. The bottom line is that yes it was an outstanding production, easily in the top 5 of A+S productions. But who could have delivered the spoken word segment? In it's 6:22 glory it is a masterpiece, and it's not too shabby in it's edited form either.
Who remember The Supremes And The Temptations doing the Marvin Gay And Tammi Terrell version of Ain't No Mountain High Enough,?i must say,they sound great together,
Please stay positive
There is some big radio station in NY that runs a Top 500 or so of all time and ANMHE has topped it many times.
I listen to my own playlists in the car, but last week I listened to CBS FM Oldies Station for a while and they played Upside Down by Diana Ross. I remember being surprised because CBS FM moved its oldies audience forward into the eighties and removed much of the sixties music from its format and just about all of the fifties music. I guess it worked because they are the number two station in NYC.
Well, Mountain used to be near the top of The WCBS-FM TOP 500 Oldies list, but it is no longer there. On the last list which was played on Labor Day Weekend, Ain't No Mountain came in at 393.
For many years, In The Still Of The Night was the number one record on the list. In recent years, Hey Jude has been on top of the list.
I don't put much faith in lists - especially, the so called bible, BILLBOARD. WCBS format has progressively moved forward playing eighties music as oldies, abandoning fifties music and limiting sixties music. I don't know, but I suspect that this top 500 list is compiled by the station itself to fit its format and current audience who thinks of eighties and ninties music as oldies. So . as I said above. AIN'T NO MOUNTAIN, which used to be in the top ten of this list, is now number 393.
Here is the link for WCBS-FM TOP 500 Oldies
You are so right Roberta. The human [[?) Wiki should write his own book of "perceptions". I didn't realize how a mouse in any given situation could live so long not to mention memorize every radio playlist in NYC. Where does one find the time. Someone of that caliber belongs in Guinness.
On what release did the short stereo version first appear?