And, not for nothing, the term "snowflake" is an old-time slur against Black people. These Trumpites think they're slick, but they could stand another greasing.
well I'm a bit busy . I haven't the time to post post after post in thread after thread --- .
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midnightman:
Also, just block Boogie. I called his bluff years ago when he made that idiotic armpit post lol
please follow your own advice .:cool:
You're immediately strongly opinionated and outraged , while in the same breath admitting you know not the least of the situation that has you so riled. [[ sorry but this is a typical knee-jerk "snowflake" reaction. )
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Every Halloween thousands of Black people dress up like famous white folks and never think to make our skin white.
This has got me really curious . What famous white people are blacks dressing up as on Halloween????
Did someone say something? I see a lot of hidden messages. Oh wait... lol
It's really sad to read through this thread . I'd prefer to not have to respond at all , but you can't let this current tactic of shouting you down appear as the way to "win".
All these personal insults and putdowns, and let me guess , each of you would decry "bullying", yet what do you think you are doing here?
You'll demand "tolerance" of others toward you and your issues, but when it comes to practicing the concept yourself , you instead are quite intolerant, as anyone reading this thread can see.
All this noise, but I haven't changed my original view . And none of you have posted anything of merit to cause me to do so.
I still think it's absurd to flip out because someone enhances their skin tone to better represent a visual impression of Diana Ross. They are trying to accurately replicate her appearance!! She has a specific skin tone. To look most like her, they copied it . It would be far more offensive to not include her skin color.
A costume mirroring any notorious person is simply more authentic and realistic when it includes accurate skin color . If you choose to "sort of" look like them , well OK , but - the best costume is going to be the one that best captures the persona . If that includes skin tone , that just better completes the illusion . And so what?? It's skin tone ! Everybody's got one!
To be clear, I do not consider that type of impersonating as "blackface" , and so maybe that's where we part company.
Are you all saying that only black people can dress up as "black" people and only white people can dress up as "white" people. If a white person dresses up as Diana Ross it has to be as a "white" Diana Ross?? Does that not read as absurd??
Here is where I'd like to say "lighten up people" ,
but no doubt the snowflake crowd would not see even an ounce of humor in it .
I'm so glad I didn't block you per the suggestions of my forum buddies. Sometimes it's a good thing to make sure ignorance has a rebuttal.
I wasn't immediately outraged by this woman. What I originally said was "I don't know who she is but it looks sketchy...". And it did look sketchy. When I pulled up the photos in question, it looked like she had applied an insane amount of bronzer- which she claimed was what she used to give her skin some color- and I thought it was possible that she did so in order to make herself look more Black. What I was "strongly opinionated" about was the overall issue of the accusation: white people who think it necessary to color their skin in a costume as a Black person. And that issue comes up every other year when some white celebrity does it and then claims ignorance when they get roasted for it. As the thread carried on, a couple of viewers of the show this woman is on have defended her, stating that she always looks like that. I don't watch the show so I deferred to their views as viewers and refrained from commenting anymore until your rude comments appeared. As I said later, I don't know if she's guilty or not, but the overall issue is sickening. And you're damn right, I had something to say about it.
I don't know who would care. I do know that white people don't have a history in this country- or around the world- of people using makeup to make themselves look more white and then using the depiction to degrade and belittle millions of people around the world. That I know as fact. So I imagine not too many white people would be offended by someone doing "whiteface". But then they don't have the history to be offended either. And I've been to costume parties where Black people have dressed up as such famous figures as Marilyn Monroe, Charlie Chaplin, Wonder Woman, Snow White, [[the last two being fictional characters, but we all know what they looked like) among so many others, and yet there was no need to make themselves white in order to get their point across. But when you see color as the identifier [["but color doesn't matter"..."color isn't an issue"...so often says people who use the term "snowflake" on a daily basis...so much for that) I guess this kind of thing wouldn't bother you.
Interesting. What exactly regarding blackface is your issue that we should be tolerant of? I'm very curious about this.
Oh, you've answered my question. I see now what your issue is. [[Well I knew what it was already, honestly.) Except millions of people do it every Halloween, every costume party, and look great without bringing skin color into it. A Diana Ross costume doesn't have to include Black skin in order to reflect who it is, no more than a Bruce Lee costume has to include exaggerated slanted eyes in order to suggest Asian ancestry. If you can't do Diana Ross without coloring your skin or Bruce Lee without messing with your eyes, you either severely lack imagination or you're a bigot. And the fact that you don't recognize the issue...well you do recognize it but just don't care. So never mind.
Let's be honest here, the real "snowflake" is you Boogie. You're talking about being sad reading through the thread and how people are bullying you with insults but you were the very first one in the thread to offer insults to anyone else in the thread. As I stated above, a couple of people came into the thread and said they didn't think that the woman was intentionally guilty of blackface for the fact that she is always heavily bronzed. They were able to do that without name calling anyone who had previously commented. You could've come into the thread and said you didn't think it was blackface and kept it moving. Instead you disgraced us with your presence by being snarky [["snarky" not a bad thing when one is bringing levity to a conversation, but you weren't trying to be funny, you were getting something started, and I recognized that which is why none of my previous comments were directed at you.) and disrespectful, using a term that has been usurped by a group of people who really do believe only their issues matter, to blanket anyone who apparently didn't hold your view on what only an idiot wouldn't recognize is a sensitive matter.
Had you said you didn't see this as blackface, your opinion would've sat alongside every other opinion on here. If your thoughts on blackface are one where you aren't bothered by it, that's your business. I remember eons ago where Whoopi Goldberg was in the middle of some craziness because Ted Danson did blackface at a roast for her and she didn't see anything wrong with it, in fact even helped him come up with the whole act. This world is made up of all kinds of people who don't see everything through the same eyes. But when your comments on this board are purposefully inflammatory and then you get responses that reflect that, you can't claim bullying. What you did is exactly what Midnightman accused you of: you're a troll. You use words like "snowflake" to get a rise and I wish that people had done what I've been doing to you since I peeped out how you like to get down on this forum, and that's simply scroll past you and move on. But your words this morning actually deserved a response. I'm sure they will have no positive effect on you. You'll continue with your namecalling, belittling, and trolling until you cease to exist around here.
So I'll let this sit right here until or if this thread is deleted.
^ You know the Grand Wizard ain't gonna read all of that because he think he can say these slurs without a comeback... that's why we have to push it harder at him that he can't say this mess. And I better not see the usual folks trying to back Boog either. He has no friends here.
Also if he's replying to me, tell him he's stupid because I got his hind parts on BLOCK.
Hi Boogie, I'm gonna come at this calmly and without overreaction and insults! Now I have no idea what this woman usually looks like or whether she intended to do as she did, but the issue here is making oneself look black — "blackface". This, rightly so in my opinion, is regarded as offensive and derogatory. It is more than just replicating a skin tone or making the costume more accurate as it carries many negative historical connotations. I know I would not be comfortable ‘visually replicating’ a black person in such a way, would you? And regarding the negative response to your post, for me it was the implication that ‘if you are offended by blackface then you are a snowflake’ that was particularly inflammatory! And, for the record, I genuinely believe that you aren't being intentionally racist or trollish, just maybe that your sensibilities are a little early-20th-century-ish. :)
Boog's posts go back to when ministrels were considered "normal" and "entertaining" and not derogatory as they're rightfully called.
"I know I would not be comfortable ‘visually replicating’ a black person in such a way, would you?" I'm betting he'd love to do it but wouldn't have the balls to do it. Well maybe he would since he'd probably be attending costume parties where the guest list were exclusively white people. His question to me regarding what white people do Black people dress up in costumes as told me that his exposure to Black people is probably exclusively Motown music. Oh and the Negro criminals he sees on television of course.
I bet he's one of those white people who constantly asks how come he can't use the n-word like the n-words get to use it.;)
Hi Tom Tom ,
Regrettably I don't have the time to give this subject the time it deserves, maybe later.
But I do want to say I appreciate your civility.:cool:
I 've never costumed to replicate a real person , but if I did, I'd want to go all the way - as spot on as possible , or else why do it. My Halloween costumes have always been on the scarier side..... hmm I remember being a green Frankenstein once.
I've never had the urge to dress up like Diana Ross , white, black or otherwise.
Lol someone can't seem to leave this thread alone. Mr. "You're a Snowflake" is still whining.
Sad.
Thanks for the references!
"Snowflake Was used to indicate an educated black man during the civil war; white collar blacks were pretty rare - only white people had desk jobs."
I can see why you were upset . That's just a terrible thing to say about anybody!
But don't worry, the current use of the term "snowflake" is not in any way referring to how well-educated someone is.
The snowflake term refers to a type of mindset that is not racially specific . It can be found within any of them .:)
LMAO this place was always pro-black. Then his racist a$$ wanna show up and make demands. Guess his love for Motown kicked him out of the white supremacist sites. He can't say things like "I see nothing wrong with blackface" and sh*t and then complain when we call his racism out.
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Seriously, dude, stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Stop trying to get the last point in and leave. Stop trying to defend your racism, Trump voter lol
Seriously dude, you promised to put me on "IGNORE"Quote:
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Seriously, dude, stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Stop trying to get the last point in and leave. Stop trying to defend your racism, Trump voter lol
I ain't that interesting! Honest! lol!!
Uh huh. And the depiction of slavery in Gone With the Wind was accurate, I'm sure he'd argue. And don't forget how much we love fried chicken and watermelon. I'm sure he'd lose his shit if we complained about the stereotypes. How much you wanna bet he shares memes with statistics hoping to correlate being Black with crime like his favorite president did?
^ Oh I'm sure he lists the Birth of the Nation film [[not the Nate Parker film) as his favorite.
And he possibly does [[and thinks every Mexican is a violent r*pist). We're just a bunch of uptight n***ers to him...
With all due respect, you don’t get to tell me what not to worry about, nor do you get to patronizingly “whitesplain” to me what the term is meant to signify. If you had taken the time to read ALL my links, you’d understand how that horrible epithet has morphed into what it’s become today. You owe this entire Forum nothing less than an apology. The crap stops now.
Hi TomTom!
Since my comment caught your attention enough to repeat it here , I thought you'd be interested in checking out this :cool: :
For your eyes only!!
Kim Kardashian West Defends Kanye: ‘He’s a Free Thinker, Is That Not Allowed in America?’
Just responding to Tom. Anyone wishing to comment further should do so in the clubhouse forum , not here.
Well Boogie, I don't know what to say... maybe just... LOL
that's fine. just couldn't pass up the connection. discussion done. :cool:
Yeah, well, this one's for EVERYBODY [[which is how a public forum works, as opposed to private messages):
Once More for the People in the Back: Anyone Who Supports Donald Trump Is a Racist
Trumpers just don't know when to quit, do they?
Read our posts: WE DON'T WANT RACISTS IN HERE.
Don't cry to Ralph about it. You brought it on yourself. Go away.
When I was a kid, we used to think of people like game show panelist regulars as being "famous for being famous" because usually we never heard of them doing anything except appearing on game shows. Now, those folks seem like geniuses with loads of talent compared to the sometime would-be also-rans who populate all these reality shows like so many faceless [[and mindless) extras.
In a more reasonable day and age, Luann and those other exhibitionists wouldn't have done anything to merit conversation about them of any kind. Come to think of it, they still haven't!
I went out to dinner one night not long ago with a guy who did nothing but talk about the Kardashians and their ilk. Ugh... Needless to say, I never saw him again!
Not so ironically, one of the reasons for the reality show boom is [[1) the more costly and difficult expense to come up with scripted original programming, and [[2) conversely, the ultra-cheap shoestring budgets that most of those shows get away with.
I admit to watching a few of those shows from time to time [[but never for long and never following a show for an entire season). One thing that always jumps out at me is how they always cry while carefully dabbing at their eyes so as not to smudge their makeup!