Speaking of not mouthing some stuff; you never responded about Elegant Soul and my claim about his racist rants. What should I infer from this lack of a response, jobetrob? If memory serves me well, you were on board when some of this took place??
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This is so funny............... now you guys have me waiting to see what Oprah does.
Perhaps Barbara or Cindy will be behind curtain number 1 which seems more like "fo real".
In the first couple years of her show, wasn't Oprah concentrating mostly on topics like women bitching about their men or how to lose weight? I don't think her show was about celebrities coming on to promote their books, unless it was a self help book or a book about some sort of physical or substance abuse. Oprah was a pretty trashy show when it first started and she got a reputation for specializing in male bashing, especially bashing Black men. But it worked for her and she quickly went number one.
You are better to ignore her bradsupremes because her tongue is that of a serpent.
As the book of Exodus boldly states.
“You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness" Alas topdiva does both. May the good Lord forgive her.
Hey Miss Lish..............I remember your comment about Elegant; well..........maybe I should send you a private message; I dont remember what thread you asked it on; it probably got buried in a fight.
I did hear the allegation Elegant was racist; I dont know the details; he wasn't to me; there are people who have posted on here that don't understand racism and it's subtleties; it will annoy some people but I think, for personal reasons, that I have a better understanding of it than many people. If Elegant is racist, I wouldnt approve and that's well known.
So all you should infer from the lack of a response was that the thread either got deleted or I lost track of it.
You and Elegant must know each other because you are in very close proximity to one another.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist or for someone to have been at the taping to know what the show will be about. I've read the same things from various people on the net about what they think will happen on the show.
If there are any reunions, it will be with Diana And Billy D. Like the recent episode with Barbra Streisand and Robert Redford.
Nice try, Tony....but I'm not buying it.
This will be the reunion of all reunions. Diane Ross and Tony Turner. Everyone set your DVR's.
Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment...
I don't know Topdiva, don't know if he/she is Tony Turner or any of that. Perhaps I'm a skeptic from reading posts on Shalamar boards where sworn 'enemies' swear that anyone who disagrees with them is H. Hewett, S. Mills or J. Watley. I don't know whether what has been said here is true. I'll give the benefit of the doubt until it becomes clear that that benefit has outlived its usefulness.
Perhaps it would be more prudent to see how this plays out before labelling anyone a liar. We'll have the answer to this in about a week. If it proves to be that TD is lying, then I know how you guys will handle it & rightfully so. But for now, the cart is being placed before the horse & I think that there's some jumping of the gun here.
But what I want to know is this...
Should the Oprah appearance play out exactly as, or reasonably close to what Topdiva has stated, will anyone here be decent enough to offer an apology to Topdiva?
8 Days & counting...we'll see!
lol. Well if Tony could tell us in advance what Diana sang or wore [[before the previews start airing), then maybe we could see if he was telling the truth when the show finally airs.
Having read this thread I have reasonable doubt whether I would go and actually WATCH the Oprah show on the 25rd. Anyway, who still IS Diana Ross to me, more than that skinny girl with BIG eyes whom I was smitten with when I was 15 years old, in 1964 ?
The 24th. is my 62nd birthday, you know, and I will need at least 24 hours to come back out of the happy frenzy of entertaining all my guests the day before.
So maybe this time I will call it a miss... and stay in good health.
Perhaps it would be more prudent to see how this plays out before labelling anyone a liar.
An excellent idea on any thread.
Thank you for your unsolicited intervention, Juice. You are so kind, balanced, and fair; however, a few of us have been to the dance a few times with Tony. Let's see if he tells us what she wore. Oh! He won't. We are too mean, vindictive, and jealous; therefore, he has no choice but to withhold any information that could be substantiated..blather..blather..
Anyone who's seen enough of Diana Ross' interviews over the years can accurately predict that her sit down with Oprah will be a rather meh affair without startling revelations as she's generally pretty guarded in her interviews [[20/20 at the time of RTL is a rare exception). I've heard she's going to perform on the show. Since the show has supposedly been filmed, what song[[s) did she perform?
AS of January 2010 he was in Montana:
http://billingsgazette.com/news/loca...cc4c03286.html
Topdiva
You're welcome. I try to be fair, but admittedly, that hasn't always been the case, so, i'm trying to learn from past mistakes.
Let's just say that I have been around enough events & artists, so that I've come to understand that you can't always speak about what you know, nor give details. I read posts all over the internet which state all kinds of things that I know are nowhere near the truth. Regardless, I can't violate confidences just so that I can prove what I know, nor to clarify what is the personal matters of others. Once trust is broken, it's rarely regained & even if it seems to be regained, relationships are rarely the same afterward.
Most people on the internet have the gift of anonymity to hide behind, which makes it possible for them to say all sorts of things with impunity. Some of us do not have that benefit, nor would I personally want to have it. If I'm going to be so bold as to say something, then I want people to know that it's coming directly from me & not from someone who's hiding in the shadows. I believe that hiding behind ficticious names while lobbing grenades is rather cowardly. I believe that if you wouldn't talk crap to or about someone to their face, it's a punk move to do it over the internet. I wouldn't say anything here that i wouldn't say to someones face & to many, I'm far from anonymous, nor do I try to be.
Such is life when people trust you enough that they know that you won't betray their confidence, as well it should be.
Yes, I recall seeing this article can others. I also recall Jobeterob being active on the Forum when ES was spewing hateful racist filth. I was surprise when Jobeterob wrote "alleged." Maybe all of the hate speak was lost in the shuffle, although it is difficult to assume how. The board was up in arms for weeks about this.
HOLY SHIT!!!!
Miss_lish
You are very wrong about that!
Not only am I mistaken, but I must be blind, crippled & crazy. It's more than a little obvious that it was you who posted that & I apologize for making a mistake that even Helen Keller could've gotten correct had she read it in braille!
I thank you for what you wrote & moreso for handling it rather nicely when you could've slammed me for being a half-blind, illiterate. I think that in the future, it would be best that I confine myself to keeping just one window of the forum open at a time.
I aslo believe that I should also avoid attempting the more difficult task of walking while chewing gum for awhile!
Thanks again, I appreciate how you handle my mistake, which is more than a little embarassing.
That sound that you hear is me trying to pick my face up from the floor!!!
Yes, it is funny, isn't it? :rolleyes:
I was at least expecting "Diana wore a dazzling outfit and sang one of her greatest hits".
SURELY someone that can remember the specifics of conversations and incidents that happened decades ago can remember small, incidental details as to what exactly Diana wore and what exactly Diana sang.
Has anyone on this forum ever been on the Oprah show? I have some gal pals that were on earlier this season; funny thing is: they didn't know until they were IN THE STUDIO what the topic was, and who, if any, were the guests. That Tony Turner was able to pick the EXACT DATE of Diana's taping is just AMAZING to me.
Maybe Tony doesn't want to 'SPOIL THE SUPRISE' and tell us what Diana wore and what she sang, but MAYBE he'll at least tell us about the one gift that Oprah gives ALL of her audience members? And I am not talking about her "Favorite Things".
Kotex? :p
You're right, MaryBrewster. I have heard the same thing in the past. Audience members do not get to choose which show they get to attend. Her tickets are always sold out months in advance, even before the topic or guest of the show is announced. So the only way Tony Turner could have been there is if he's still really close to Diana and she made provisions for him to sit up front and center.
I'll take Mary Brewster's word over TopDiva's anyday!
I am only telling you a tidbit of what Tony Turner told me. As he himself has said - do not kill the messenger. As I build my friendship with people I do not pry and ask tons silly questions. I only share SOME of what we talk about in conversations, as you see what happens here from the Tony Turner haters when I share the tiniest bit of news.
I will say this Tony Turner remains very well connected. So do not hate!!!
Actually Carlo - it appears provisions have always been made for Tony Turner since he was a little boy - You are almost correct in saying that Oprah tickets are hard to get. They are perhaps gone almost a year in advance. And perhaps - horror of horror's - Tony Turner was invited to this show and did not require a ticket - and perhaps he was even backstage with Ross - helping - I'am just saying perhaps. I know this would, for some silly unknown reasons - piss the usual faction of Turner haters off. But such is life - everything and everyone is not for everybody.
What I find here is that you fans - who are so very distant from the performers that you love - cannot stand when someone like Tony Turner - who has a lifelong association with Motown performers - can still come and go as he pleases - even AFTER two "interesting" books that the fans bash - but the people written about said little or nothing.
Admit it - be real - although none of you know Tony Turner - you cannot stand him - for what he has done , where he has been, his connection to The Supremes, The Temptations and Motown period. Most of you would give your right arm to have been in his position all these years - so stop playing.