You think King was docile in his day? He was a whole lot radical than you think!
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Repeating what I said earlier because I accidentally deleted it while I was trying to edit through my phone:
Her being a legend has nothing to do with her and any entertainer's/public figure's complacency. In making her statement, she put herself in the position to be judged even if she feels her intention is good. And again, what did Colin say???
He said absolutely nothing about Gladys yet Ms. Knight jumped the gun to explain herself before he said anything. Colin only talked to Travis. Gladys wanted the headlines so that's why her people put out her statement.
I have no issue with her doing it but don't rub it in people's faces and then say the anthem, with its controversial past and how the versions by Jose Feliciano, Hendrix and Marvin Gaye caused some whites to feel some type of way because they didn't perform it the way it was expected, and the social ills currently affecting us, to "be separate". This is not Whitney Houston singing it in the middle of the Gulf War. This is the era of "Black Lives Matter" and calling out racism and police brutality.
And for Gladys doing it, why is anyone in this thread surprised at the reactions? Most of us in the black community are stuck mentally because we look at every opportunity offered to us as "progress" and sometimes it's actually regress. The reactions from prejudiced Trump voters speaks volumes that they can point to one of us and say "see, she ain't no uppity Negro" and say we should sit down and shut up and the black users just consigning it is making me sad.
I'm not watching, as I said, but let's not act like those of us addressing what's wrong with this are being oversensitive.
Quite true...Marvin was so traditional in 68, wearing a suit and tie looking so cool... He got PISSED at Jose, but don't forget, Berry Gordy would likely not have allowed Marvin back in 68 to do anything other than his traditional "acceptable" version. This was before What's Going On when Berry ultimately saw the commercial possibilities in going more non-traditional...
I have pondered this quote for years. Never more than in the last 10, when the US became more and more intolerant toward peoples of color after Obama was elected. I honestly think people who don't want to get involved on either side of the social justice divide believe they aren't part of the problem if they aren't actively holding back minorities. Their silence is necessary for racism to succeed. "Not taking a side" is an active choice and it is absolutely taking the side of oppression.
Thanks for these posts Midnight Sans and Jerry
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for enough good men to do nothing.”
C'mon Glady's... Here's some inspiration for ya...https://youtu.be/HU0SZXcNNbY
Charlie Wilson's version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FlU9AjMvCM
Uncle Charlie making a pitch for the NBA Championship series perhaps...Gets my vote...Wisely avoids the political discourse...Some friends of mine spent the entire day hanging and boating with Charlie at a lake up north where he lives and had never heard of Charlie or the Gap band. They say he was a great guy to hang out with...
You betta preach Jerry!!! I agree with this in it's entirety. I'll always love Gladys Knight for the impact her artistry has had on me for my entire lifetime thus far, but I don't respect her and she'll never get another dime from me. She's cooning for a position, and if Fox News is giving her airtime of praise, she can consider it a job well done. I'll await to hear of her "Knight At the White House: Gladys Performs For the President" Fox News special, presented by Sean Hannity, who accompanies Gladys on an emotional rendition of "Dixie". I'm done with her.
I always thought "America the Beautiful" was a much more appropriate anthem than the piece of crap written by a piece of trash. As a nation we have to ask ourselves why would we want to be associated so fiercely with a song written by a slave owner? That crap should've been replaced with something else decades ago. Of course the obvious answer to why some don't mind associating with that song...
"We must tell our white brothers that the few Uncle Toms who will sill their souls for a mess of economic pottage do not speak for the Negro."The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
[Address at Public Meeting of the Southern Christian Ministers Conference of Mississippi; September 23, 1959]
Shes now the darling of the far right. Shes going to be singing for President Pus*y Grabber real soon. SMH
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/glad...ational-anthem
https://www.newsmax.com/jameshirsen/.../22/id/899250/
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/gutf...-gladys-knight
Oh Gladys :[[
All you people who are dissing Gladys Knight are most likely a bunch of hypocrites. The products you buy support child labor, much of the produce you eat is produced from abused workers and the executives of the organizations you work for could careless about equality as the majority of their programs are lip service. Kinda like the Kennedy’s early attitude abt civil rights until they realized there was political value in promoting civil rights. And you have the nerve to go pick the low hanging fruit abt her singing the national anthem.
This is the most out-of-left-field off post that I've ever read [[and that's saying something). What the hell are you even talking about? You know squat about anybody just like we know nothing [[nor care to know) about you. Some advice for discussing things in a public forum in the future:
1. Find rocks
2. Kick them
I think what he is saying boils down to simply "those without sin, cast the first stone" [[at least I think that's how it goes).
For me, I understand and support the Colin Kaepernick led protest. I have from the beginning and that will not change. I love Gladys Knight and that will not change. This is life, this is not a game like they play in places like Fox News. They don't give damn about the NFL protest, police brutality, racism or Gladys Knight! They do love to carry out their masters objectives of keeping people divided and fighting while they rank in all of the dough!
Now I see why I block some fools in this forum... if y'all wanna be self-hating kneegrows, fine, but spew that BS to Breitbart, not here.
I been blocked his/her ass a long time ago and if it hadn't been for Jerry quoting that nonsense, I wouldn't know what the hell was going on. Some folks get real defensive about Black people drawing a line in the sand. Everybody else can do it, but oh Lordy, don't let the nigras say enough is enough. GTFOH.
And I always noticed it's always US. Imagine if we weren't so divided as a community and actually did come together. There's always gotta be a sell-out screaming that no one cares and we're "wasting our time". Like there weren't sell-outs during the civil rights era telling black activists at the time exactly that! I assume dmg is black anyway. It's bad enough when other races point fingers at us, it's horrible when it's your own people telling you "sit down" because their favorite Motown singer is doing it. I bet if it was Garth Brooks, they wouldn't be saying "shut up". They'd be like "what's wrong with him?" Just because I also think Gladys Knight was the greatest female vocalist Motown produced doesn't mean I'm gonna co-sign what she does because she became famous off of Motown. Hell SHE doesn't even wanna recognize/represent Motown HALF the time!
No sir/ma'am we are blasting Gladys knight for criticizing a REAL hero like Colin Kaepernick. Miss Gladys also recorded a right wing known bigots music so instead of telling us what we should be thinking or writing why dont you do a little research on Miss Mormon.
I notice some folks hating on another Motown legend for not going to the White House for the signing of the Music Modernization Act despite her feverish campaigning but people who were complaining were the ones claiming they were her biggest fans but "disappointed" she didn't show up at the signing...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/8d52...temid=10041226
Not naming names. Just using her as an example! So for those that go OT, I'll report you. Focus on the Empress of the Mormons lol
A few words on the Super Bowl performance from Gladys Husband...…
Let it be clear Gladys isdoing the National anthem at the Super Bowl. And we are doing it not goingagainst Colin .Kaepernick, he’s protesting two subjects police violence andinjustice in the courts both we stand with. Gladys has walked through morebackdoors performed in the Jim Crow South marched with Martin Luther King andprotested apartheid. She did this so others who came after her could walkthrough the front door after her and others kicked it down. We’re doing the national anthem so that we canget rid of the lie that this is what Collin has been protesting against, alsoto let the country know that our black young men do not come from SOBs but theyare born of queens like Aretha and an empresses like my wife. We have manyblack men heroes that have died for this country and love this country evenwhen his country didn’t love them. So we sing the national anthem for a countrythat we have died and fought for. We are united against any injustice but I’masking you to not let anyone including the president. Take your mind off theprice
Atlanta your daughter is coming home and this timethey’re opening the door for her.
Any questions!?
Sorry, but I'm not buying the "we stand with you but..." excuse. The reason I'm not believing it is because she has a microphone in her face right now and if she "stands" with BLM, she could prove it by voicing a call for change. In fact, she's in prime position to put the city of Atlanta on blast for many problems it's had with the police. But go ahead Gladys, you were saying...
And for the record: I still love Gladys' records and will dance [[and try to sing them) when they come on. But I don't have to respect her as a person who has a political expression that is diametrically opposite of my point of view. As I've stated before, I've lost a family member to police use of deadly force that was neither transparently investigated nor explained in any way that made sense. When I speak on this issue it's because I don't want to lose someone else. It's not "politics" to me.
I'm pretty sure Gladys' point of view would be closer to mine if one of her sons or brothers was shot to death because a cop "couldn't see his hands". As a matter of fact, everybody on that side of the issue would. So I'll listen to her sing but I don't want to hear her speak again. She's said plenty.
I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what this conversation is all about. Gladys is singing at the Super Bowl. Be happy for her. She will tear it up. What else do you guys want to complain about?
Perhaps folks can just sit back and reflect for a moment as has this [[non sellout) great American spokesperson on just what we ALL have to be grateful for and express it for 90 seconds, before a football game roar...https://youtu.be/iIkNsj6cDGc