Soulster and Ms.M,
I think the two of you need to rein it in a bit. Soulster, if you don't like to read what Ms. M has to say, then simply hit the ignor button. Ms.M, you didn't have to add the last post. Done is done.
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Soulster and Ms.M,
I think the two of you need to rein it in a bit. Soulster, if you don't like to read what Ms. M has to say, then simply hit the ignor button. Ms.M, you didn't have to add the last post. Done is done.
In all the years Ive been here slurs and nasty comments have been hurled around and have weathered and withstood censorship and comment from you but I say something as tame as, you are our of your league and you call me on it? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Ok Ralph, your house, your rules......I'm due for a dose of reality anyway.
Hope you're feeling better.
Allllllllllllll righty then.
Soulster.............I want to tell you one thing that you are due congratulations for. And that is in the time I have watched your posts, it has never crossed my mind whether you were white, black, brown, orange, yellow or pink. And I've never thought of the words "racist, bigotted, hostile, aggressive" or any such thing when I read your posts.
I believe that means you are a rational, thoughtful person. In fact, it crosses my mind that I have not really identified you as male or female for sure; I think male.
That tells me you've got very few axes to grind and that is something people appreciate. People get tired when they know they are going to constantly here the Conservative view, the liberal view, the Tony Turner view, the African American view, the Glenn Beck view, the Mary Wilson view ~ it is all so predictable and boring. I could write the column or the post, it is so predictable.
Perhaps this is why Barbara Walters and Larry King last; they don't have a whole bunch of identifiable axes either. They apply their mind without prejudice to a situation ~ it is called exercising the brain. Soulster does it well.
Thanks Rob,
I am not, by nature, a hostile or aggressive person, but I fight back against unprovoked attacks. A am certainly not a racist! I am a straight Black male.
I believe in "live and let live". Sometimes, I rethink my positions on things when I am presented with persuasive arguments.
I have my views. Sometimes I go to the right, sometimes to the left, and, from my perspective, am smack-dab in the middle! I have dealt with all types of people, which means I am less likely to judge others, or fear/hate people I don't know. I have no tolerance for judgmental know-it-alls. They are aggressive, close-minded bullies.
Everyone handles bigotry/racism differently. Just because one person deals with it one way doesn't make it the only way everyone should deal with it. Some people walk away, some stand up to it. Remember the song "To Each His Own" by Faith, Hope & Charity"? Those were true words. Because of the things I have experienced and things I have seen, and because of my ethnicity, I have little tolerance for bigots and racists.
But, I still say that getting up and walking out on Bill O'Reilly was a mistake. To be fair, O'Reilly probably sees others who are on the opposite of the spectrum as equally boneheaded. But, I also think that if you were to have dinner with him, or hang out with him, he would actually stop and think a bit. I could be wrong, but that's my feeling. The bottom line is that too many people talk and no one listens. And, with the things some people say and do, it's damn-near impossible to listen.
I lean progressive or liberal, whichever term floats your boat. I'm proud of that. Without all the nasty rhetoric on both sides, we would find that we both want the same things, but just have a different philosophy on how to get there.
It's up to you whether you think I have an axe to grind. I came back on this forum a year or two ago to discuss over-compression on CDs, and at least one individual had a fit about it. I am happy to say that most of the industry feels the same way we audiophiles do, and many have taken the steps to reduce the problem. So, I feel vindicated there. :)
I still feel like an outsider here. It feels more like a closed society. I love soul music and grew up with it from day one. I do not have the in-depth knowledge of all things Motown or Detroit artists that some of you do. I have little interest in the inner-social interactions of the people who made Motown if it does not directly relate to the music. In fact, I am more interested in Ralph's brother's experiences in recording, mixing, and mastering classic Motown sides than anything else. Maybe this is the wrong forum for that stuff. I don't know. All I can say is that I loved the music from the very first guitar notes of "Do Ya Love Me" by the Contours 45, to the sound of Johnny Gill singing "The Floor".
That's some of what I am about, just so there's no mistaking.
Now, lets get this off off me and us, and get back to The View incident, shall we?
Soul,
You are not an "outsider" here. You are a valued member of this forum.
I appreciate the cooperation, MS.M and I think I'm feeling much better, thank you.
If you are an outsider here, I am too.
So, what happened on the View today? Did they talk about it? I guess I need to search and see.
C'mon folks, it's television, it's entertainment, and it's about RATINGS and MONEY. The view is not Meet The Press.
All television shows are scripted and planned.... either beforehand or in post-production. There are no surprises, they know what's going to happen. No free for all.
I, missed O'Reilly's show yesterday, where he was supposed to talk about the incident.
You guys know this network better than I; is this a plant or could this be accurate?
Behind the View Walk Off: Zwecker
Updated: Wednesday, 20 Oct 2010, 10:32 AM CDT
Published : Wednesday, 20 Oct 2010, 10:32 AM CDT
By Bill Zwecker, FOX Chicago News
Chicago - Here's a bit of backstage scoop from The View: One of the show's staffers tells me it was none other than Elisabeth Hasselbeck who proved to be the true peacemaker after that big dustup last week, when Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar walked off the set.
They were upset by Bill O'Reilly's comments about "Muslims being responsible" for the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
Though Hasselbeck is the well-known conservative Republican on the show, and a big O'Reilly fan, she kept her mouth shut about her feelings [[she agreed with Barbara Walters, that Behar and Goldberg shouldn't have bolted) and ended up being the voice of reason.
It was Hasselbeck, my source tells me, who smoothed things over.
Apparently, Walters’ verbal tongue-lashing of Goldberg and Behar hurt their feelings, and that's what really needed to be straightened out.