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You do know that some people just have nothing else to live for and so reliving an event from 10 years ago is all they can cling to I guess. Some how I seriously doubt that Diana, Mary, Cindy, Lynda or any other Supreme gives RTL even a passing thought in 2011...
Oh she crushed that tour! But it should have never went out to begin with once they could not reach an agreement with Mary and Cindy Birdsong. No one other than die-hard Diana Ross fans were really interested in seeing it. They couldn't even give away enough tickets in Connecticut or Long Island to keep it from being cancelled.
If i can find the tape of him showing Diana onstage singing and then cuts to a completely empty stadium and states something like " If you are looking for something peaceful and quiet to do this weekend where you can be alone, try attending the Diana Ross & the Supremes Return to Love concert! hehehehehehehe!
I don't know anything about that because I live in America and was living here when we were NOT in a recession back in 2000 when the "Return to Love Tour" was announced! Mary must have been doing a decent amount of business because her tour DID NOT get cancelled and she will back over there later this year for something like 40 more dates! Oh yeah. She is the Supreme Survivor!
I remember when Leno poked fun at the tour and it was pretty funny. The one that sticks out in my mind was when they showed Diana singing "Love Child" then it showed "Lynda" and "Scherrie" at their microphones with their hands tied behind their backs and duct tape over their mouths.
I don't think any of it is, funny, I think it's disappointing, considering in the 60's the Beatles were the most successful recording group of that era, but The Supremes were the most successful AMERICAN recording group of that era,and The Beatles legacy has been handled a bit more gracefully by all parties concerned than that of The Supremes!..[[The Leno bit with the girls gagged and bound is kind of funny, though,hate to admit it,...lol)
no one denies that they fought;
I'm talking from the fan perspective, which is what most of us here are/were,and from the fan perspective, Beatle fans remain a concern in 2011 with the individuals[[McCartney, Ringo, the widows of Lennon and Harrison)involved, and there's an on going respect and communication with Beatles fans in 2011, even though THE BEATLES broke up before THE SUPREMES did...no one introduced the females fighting part of the conversation,and those of you who only see this as about fighting females, all I can say is..MOVE ON!!!..lol
I don't see it as a double standard. the public saw that as artistic temperament because the Beatles had much more substance to their talent, such as playing of musical instruments, production, songwriting... the Supremes will never get that respect in the music business because they are just seen as singing puppets which didn't even choose thier own MATERIAL. The dresses and wigs are about the only thing they can lay claim to. Sad but true.
The Supreme's were far from puppets. There are many, many great artist that never wrote songs or played instruments, just like there are many, many great musicians who never sang on the recording that they may have played on or even wrote. I don't think Elvis wrote or played instruments on any of his recordings. He's highly respected and loved. Don't think Barbara Streisand did either. How many songs did Billie Holliday or Ella Fitzgerald write or play instruments on? As far as I know, I don't think that Michael Jackson ever played an instrument on his recordings or wrote all his hits, but you'd be hard pressed to say that his contribution to music and entertainment isn't as great, if not greater than that of the Beatles. If playing instruments, production and songwriting is the standard by which to judge greatness, then Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles tops them all, they did all that and did it without the benefit of sight. The Beatles are the Beatles, the Supremes are the Supremes. Apples and Oranges.
but The Supremes do have that respect; they just never do anything with it,and it lays there, wasted..such a shame
Didn't Diana front some of her own money to try and get Mary's salary up to what she was asking ? Didn't this tour discussion start with Diana and company wanting to get all the Supremes involved ? Wasn't Mary giving a deadline to respond to the offer and she ignored the final deadline ? Didn't Diana call Berry Gordy wanting to call the whole thing off and he told her to do what makes her happy ? If memory serves me right there have been other tours canceled like this The Monkeys', Van Halen, heck even Labelle didn't last long.
As far as Diana having a setback, there were a lot of things going on in her life that caused a lot of pain. A lot of personal things. Now as far as history and reputation she will be remember as the Lead Singer of one if not the Top Selling Female group of the 60's and 70's.
I am really kind of shocked though [[yeah maybe I just didn't want to believe it) that it was all about Money. I truly believed Mary when she said she wanted more creativity input.
Again~~~~~~~~~we are asked to understand and believe that a man who wanted to pull Diana from the group in 1965/66 and was okay with her singing without Flo/Mary and cindy in the background is now saying you shouldn't do the tour without him....................NAWDA.
Berry thought the whole idea was a bad one and that Diana should just tour on her own..............which is another reason the whole thing is forever gone, never to be resurrected. Berry was right again. It's sad for the fans that is ended on an unhappy note but no different from the disaster that ended the group in 1977 ~ years of infighted, losing money and members and bringing on half a dozen background singers that for the following 40 years called themselves Supremes.
I'm going to be brave and say this: I enjoy viewing the RTL clips on Youtube and hope that Diana Ross tours with Scherrie and Lynda again... as well as with Joyce. She shouldn't promote it as a Supremes reunion, though. It should be a FLOS tour with her as a special guest performer... or a D.R. tour with the FLOS as the special guests.
Even Scherrie has said she hopes Diana and Mary and Cindy reunite!
There was no disaster that happened in 1977. Also, there were not a half dozen background singers calling themselves the Supremes for the last 40 years. Where did you get this information? It is a fact that Berry Gordy wanted to see Mary Wilson, Diana Ross and Cindy Birdsong tour as the Supremes one last time for prosterity purposes.