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Today 06:02 PM

Would a few more leads have helped paul?

Otis mentioned in the book[temptations]that he didn't really know when pauls troubles started, he did state that paul wanted more leads but nobody was writing for him,do you think that maybe his mental wellbeing would've improved with more leads? I've asked myself this question also.
Today 06:57 PM

Four Tops Second Album

I'm just listening to this outstanding album and the following thought occurred to me.....

Is there any track on the album that isn't up to the standard of being a single release?

HDH really produced the goods on this album!
Today 08:22 PM

Motown and Cancelled 'Releases'

I'm not sure that we have discussed this before as a general topic. It seems that Motown had an enormous volume of ready-to-release material that was eventually cancelled. The Supremes alone had Sing Ballads and Blues, the Disney album, There's a Place For Us and more.

So two topics for discussion: 1) I wonder if there is a definitive list of Motoen cancelled material [[this would not include material that was recorded but just remained unreleased), and 2) Did Motown indeed have a higher volume of cancelled material than other contemporary labels, or is it that due to our forum sleuths we just know more about the Motown cancelled material?
Today 12:49 PM

Tina turner docutmentary on hbo sat 3/27

Tina Turner documentary tells such a harrowing, awful story that it becomes inspiring
Mick LaSalle

“Tina” doesn’t just tell you all about Tina Turner. It makes you feel like you know her, personally, and it gives you some sense of what it was like to live her life. To say that she had it rough is not enough. For decades, it was a loveless nightmare.

The new HBO documentary, which airs on HBO and HBO Max at 8 p.m. Saturday, March 27 [[on demand Sunday, March 28), hits the familiar points of Turner’s story — discovery by musician Ike Turner, the domestic abuse, the years in the wilderness followed by the massive comeback — but it does so in illuminating detail. Along the way, there’s Turner herself, telling her story in both archival and recent interviews. Considering everything she’s been through, she’s remarkably even-keeled.

Hers is a sobering story, but inspiring, too. What makes it inspiring is Turner’s unassailable ability to survive. When she was growing up in Tennessee, Turner’s mother left the family. Then her father left, so she had to grow up quickly. Somehow, she had acquired ambition. Turner recalls seeing a magazine photo of Paris’ Champs-Elysees and thinking, “The world. That’s where I want to go.”

Her ticket to the bigger world came when she was still a teenager. She auditioned for Ike Turner and joined his band, and everything was fine, until they married and he started beating her. He’d beat her with a coat hanger or a shoe stretcher, and then he’d have sex with her. Just sick. She was terrified of him, and this went on for years.

At a time when Turner was an influential and successful singer — an inspiration to younger talents such as Mick Jagger and Janis Joplin — she was living the life of a prisoner. “I lived a shameful lie,” she says, with characteristic insight. “And I found a way to live with it by being ashamed.”

Look in her eyes circa 1968, even when she’s smiling. Then look at her closely, in the first flush of solo success in the mid-1980s. Her spirit goes from heavy to buoyant, from fearful to realized.

As the documentary makes clear, two escape attempts define Turner’s life. The first was her successful escape from her marriage. The second was her unsuccessful attempt to escape the story of her marriage — or as she puts it, “the ridiculously embarrassing story of my life.”

In 1981, she told People magazine about Ike’s abuse, hoping to put it behind her. But three years later, following the success of her album, “Private Dancer,” all the press wanted to ask her about was Ike. Imagine getting a question like this on national television: “When you were married to Ike, what was the absolute worst moment?”

The irony, which Turner seems to ruefully understand, is that the Ike story has become part of her legend. It’s part of what people like and admire about her, and it almost certainly added to the universal excitement that attended her great successes in the 1980s. After all, the audiences that filled entire stadiums weren’t there just to see a performer. They were there to see a person and share in her triumph, as if they themselves had a stake in it.

In the end, what might be most admirable about Tina Turner is that she has never basked in the commodification of her victimhood. The documentary shows her at a news conference for “What’s Love Got to Do with It” [[1993), saying that she hadn’t yet seen the movie about her life. She said she didn’t want to go through all that again.

But we want to go see Tina Turner’s life again, at least when the documentary is as good as this one.



“Tina”: Documentary. Starring Tina Turner. Directed by Daniel Lindsay and T.J. Martin. [[Not rated. 118 minutes.) Airs on HBO and HBO Max 8 p.m. Saturday, March 27. On demand starting Sunday, March 28.

https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/mov...omes-inspiring





03-02-2021 09:44 AM

Songs with dances in the title

Mickey's Monkey
Twistin' Postman
Come On Do the Jerk
Can You Jerk Like Me?
Shotgun
Hitchhike

All of the above songs were original compositions released on various Motown labels, and all contain the names of dances.

I know there are more. Can you name more songs released by Motown that contain the names of dances that are NOT covers?

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