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Cool Ju (cool_ju)
4-Laureate
Username: cool_ju
Post Number: 121
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 2:20 pm: �� |   ��� |
There' one for ya! |
Tony Russi (tony_russi)
5-Doyen
Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 259
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.210.43.109
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 2:26 pm: �� | ��� |
To me the major musical players of the60's are 1)MOTOWN 2)James Brown 3)Phil Spector 4)The Beatles 5)Brill Building(NY writers & producers)...these were the leaders(I was never a big Beatle fan) |
Randy Russi (randy_russi)
5-Doyen
Username: randy_russi
Post Number: 215
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 169.139.180.100
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 2:31 pm: �� | ��� |
Motown has more appeal and is better known, but
Spector was right in there. However, by '66 he
was basically finished, due to lack of airplay.
Motown was the best sound of the '60s, followed
by Spector, Philadelphia, Stax, Chicago's
sound. |
Tony Russi (tony_russi)
5-Doyen
Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 261
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.210.43.109
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 2:44 pm: �� | ��� |
How foolish of me to leave out Philly as Cameo/Parkway was MAJOR in the early to mid 60's. |
mike s (mike_s)
4-Laureate
Username: mike_s
Post Number: 170
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 195.93.33.7
| | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 10:31 am: �� | ��� |
Spector came up with some brilliant recordings (helped with great songs from Goffin/King-Mann/Weil-Barry/Gr eenwich) but Motown was the sound of the 60s (not forgetting the Beatles and the Stones, whether or not we personally dug it! |
Eli (phillysoulman)
6-Zenith
Username: phillysoulman
Post Number: 1621
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.162.125.111
| | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 1:58 pm: �� | ��� |
IMO,
Motown was the sound of the sixties, as Spector was a flash in the pan by comparison, and a victim of his own self inflicted musical demise.
For me Atlantic (and its subs) was the ruler of real r&b and soul in the sixties |
Cool Ju (cool_ju)
4-Laureate
Username: cool_ju
Post Number: 127
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 2:12 am: �� | ��� |
What caused Spector's demise? |
mike s (mike_s)
5-Doyen
Username: mike_s
Post Number: 171
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 195.93.33.7
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 8:15 am: �� | ��� |
It is said that he gave up the music business when Ike and Tina's River Deep failed to make it in the USA charts....he rightly felt it was another Lovin' Feelin'. It only reached #88 in BB Hot 100 and failed to hit the BB soul chart although it managed Cashbox's soul chart in the 40s.
He came back in 69 with Black Pearl, a hit for Sonny Charles and the Checkmates and a non-hit for the Ronettes with You Came You Saw for Herb Alpert's A & M label and later co-production with John Lennon etc but the impetus of his career was gone and his label had died especially after his falling out with partner Lester Sill, a great music publisher. Maybe he just ran out of steam. |
Tony Russi (tony_russi)
5-Doyen
Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 264
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.210.24.241
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 4:10 pm: �� | ��� |
Phil wanted total control. At his height, I think he only had a secretary and a promotion man & him. He also bought a pressing plant.The singers had to really sing, but he did not promote them...just the records.The Crystals said "Thank God" he wasn't their manager. The Crystals say they only remember him coming to one of their LIVE gigs. He thought of the artists as just part of the session and I think if he was more involved in a positive way with his various artists it would have helped his label carry on.He would get mad at them personally and then not promote or withdraw their release...how foolish to kill you're own record. So in killing their recording career he was killing his career.Of course he had all the money. |
Tony Russi (tony_russi)
5-Doyen
Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 265
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.210.24.241
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 4:36 pm: �� | ��� |
Oh yea, just heard Mr. Spector has been indicted for murder today. |
Randy Russi (randy_russi)
5-Doyen
Username: randy_russi
Post Number: 217
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 169.139.180.100
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 3:39 pm: �� | ��� |
I think disc jockeys across the country didn't
like his attitude...no appreciation for them
as he didn't show up at different conventions
for them. Again, how can a record label
(in this case Philles Records) survive without
airplay. Plus, I don't think a lot of those
last few records he made were all that great. |
Shawn1 (shawn1b)
5-Doyen
Username: shawn1b
Post Number: 182
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 65.30.13.211
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 4:30 am: �� | ��� |
Phil Spector always seemed like a creep to me that treated his artist like dirt !Not that Motown was that much to most but they did help their artist more .Shawn |
Chi Drummer (chidrummer)
5-Doyen
Username: chidrummer
Post Number: 238
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 67.173.159.156
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 5:24 am: �� | ��� |
Slightly off topic, but to me the true sound of the '60's is split up between The Wrecking Crew, Motown(The Funk Bros.), Stax (Booker T & the MG's), Muscle Shoals, The Beatles, Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix. All of them made pervasive and lasting contributions to the sound of that era. Most everyone else seemed to imitate all or a part of these 6 groups. |