Paula Dean racist comments.

[Roberta75]

May God forgive you Paula Dean for you hateful words. ill never watch your cooking show again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/paula-deen-racist-comments-n-word-caught-on-video_n_3467287.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D332419

[Jerry Oz]

Somehow, that does not surprise me one bit. The country has not changed as much as people want to believe. We will never be rid of people of all races who have a supremacist attitude.

[Roberta75]

Somehow, that does not surprise me one bit. The country has not changed as much as people want to believe. We will never be rid of people of all races who have a supremacist attitude.

I'm not real surprised either Jerry. I feel her cooking shows should all be cancelled so hopefully sponsors will start pulling they money.

Sad that this go on in 2013 though. Real, real sad.

Roberta

[Kamasu_Jr]

I read the story and don't think Paula Dean is a racist. She admitted using the N word a long, long time ago. She's a product of the south. A lot of white southerners used the word in the days before they knew better. It was not a politically correct time. She was contrite and admitted she was not perfect. Remember this all stems from a lawsuit by a former employee who is a black female. It was the employee's lawyer asking the questions. About a plantation styled wedding. We celebrate plantations here in the south. People tour them. I don't think she meant having darkies serving white folks. I've used the N word. I try not to, but I slip and say it, so I understand that some find it offensive. In her defense, I will say Paula Dean and her sons were responsible for the Neeleys , a black couple getting a cooking show on Food Network. Some people are out to ge Ppaula Dan. They are jealous and would like to see her replaced by Trisha Yearwood.

[Roberta75]

I read the story and don't think Paula Dean is a racist. She admitted using the N word a long, long time ago. She's a product of the south. A lot of whitecsoutherners used the word in the days before they knew better. It was not a politically correct time. She was contrite and admittedcshe was not perfect. Remember this all stems from a lawsuit by a former employee who is a black female. It was the employee's lawyer asking the questions. About a plantation styled wedding. We celebrate plantations here in the south. People tour them. I don't think she meant having darkies serving white folks. I've used the N word. I try not to, but I slip and say it, so I understand that some find it offensive. In her defense, I will say Paula Dean and her sons were responsible for the Neeleys , a black couple getting a cooking show on Food Network. Some people are out to ge Ppaula Dan. They are jealous and would like to see her replaced by Trisha Yearwood.

Im sorry kamasu but this isnt the first time Paula Dean has been caught using racist words ad if you read the court transcript she comes across as real bigoted to me.

Respectfully yours,

Roberta

[Kamasu_Jr]

I'm bigoted and racist too. I've called white people "crackers," "M-fing rednecks" "honkies" and talked about them in a derogatory manner. They are words, hateful words, but I know better and don't mean to say some of what I say.

[Roberta75]

I'm bigoted and racist too. I've called white people "crackers," "M-fing rednecks" "honkies" and talked about them in a derogatory manner. They are words, hateful words, but I know better and don't mean to say some of what I say.

No offense but that doesnt make it right.

Roberta

[Kamasu_Jr]

I know it doesn't make it right, but I realize people are products of their environments , say stupid things at times and are humans - who make mistakes.

[Jerry Oz]

Kam, don't forget that this deposition is responding to charges that her bigotry manifested in her illegal treatment of someone in her employ. I suspect that a white person working for you would have grounds to sue you for using the language you described toward him.

[marv2]

I'm not real surprised either Jerry. I feel her cooking shows should all be cancelled so hopefully sponsors will start pulling they money.

Sad that this go on in 2013 though. Real, real sad.

Roberta

They should give Diana Ross her show!

[Kamasu_Jr]

From what I know about her restaurant, Paula Dean hasn't physically run it for a while now. I think her brother does and one of her sons. A white employee could sue for racial discrimination, but I would never use racist remarks in a professional setting. Paula said she used the N-word but in private, years ago.

[Roberta75]

From what I know about her restaurant, Paula Dean hasn't physically run it for a while now. I think her brother does and one of her sons. A white employee could sue for racial discrimination, but I would never use racist remarks in a professional setting. Paula said she used the N-word but in private, years ago.

Easy to say she used the N word years ago now that she been caught for the 2nd time. Sorry kamasu. imo Miss Dean is a racist and i hope she seeks redemption.

Roberta

[soulster]

Kam,

Just because Deen is a product of the south cannot excuse her behavior, and I believe she could probably have used the "n" word as recent as yesterday.

I can't say if she's a racist, but she certainly is a bigot! When this hits the mainstream press, advertisers/food companies will start pulling their sponsorship, her show may be dropped, and she will have to come to grips that the whole country isn't the south. And, that restaurant and others like it? Yeah, they're going to face a LOT of scrutiny. I hope this snowballs.

During that deposition, she was all nonchalant about using the word, too. Hmmm...I wonder what she would have called the bank robber if he had been white? Hmmmm...

Through one of the links on that article, I found some quotes from other celebrities who have also made racist slurs. Two that I didn't know about before were John Wayne and Charlie Sheen. Seems like 'ol Marion Ross believed in white supremacy "until Blacks were educated to the point where they could be responsible", and he said this in 1971. Later, Charlie Sheen called his ex-wife a n----r.

Oh, they just keep-a-comin'!

[soulster]

I'm bigoted and racist too. I've called white people "crackers," "M-fing rednecks" "honkies" and talked about them in a derogatory manner. They are words, hateful words, but I know better and don't mean to say some of what I say. But, you meant it some of the time, right?

[soulster]

They should give Diana Ross her show!
Don't turn this into a fuckin' Diana Ross thread! OK? Thank you!

[Kamasu_Jr]

This has gotten covered by the national morning news shows. It looks like Paula Deen's ass is grass and Food Network is the lawn mower. According to some local folks in the know, the network is not standing by her but doing its own investigation. I am told execs at the network have not been happy with Paula for a while, especially since her diabetes scandal, which she kept from the public and her diva demands. Her successors are already making moves; Ree Drummond who does country cooking on Food Network [[same thing Dean does)was on GMA after it reported on Dean's trouble and Trisha Yearwood whose cooking show won a Daytime Emmy.

[Jerry Oz]

Shaking my head at someone who gets excited for a "plantation wedding", complete with faux slaves to serve them. And feeling justified about calling the person who robbed her the N-bomb reminds me of Oprah's show from Forsyth County, Georgia many years ago [[the didn't permit black people to live there). They told her that as far as they weren't concerned, she wasn't a n***er, but other black people were.

I'd love for Paula to tell us which of us are and which of us aren't.

[Roberta75]

Shaking my head at someone who gets excited for a "plantation wedding", complete with faux slaves to serve them. And feeling justified about calling the person who robbed her the N-bomb reminds me of Oprah's show from Forsyth County, Georgia many years ago [[the didn't permit black people to live there). They told her that as far as they weren't concerned, she wasn't a n***er, but other black people were.

I'd love for Paula to tell us which of us are and which of us aren't.

It saddens and disgust me that this type of hatred is still around in 2013. We are all Gods children to live a life with hate in your heart is a wasted life imo.

Real, real sad that people hate because of skin color.

Roberta

[Kamasu_Jr]

Food Network has dropped Paula Deen's shows from the network. I told you that it would happen. Paula was foolish, she gave FN a good reason to can her ass. She didn't see that her successors were in place and the ax was in the air waiting to chop. She's Dumb. She opened her mouth and stuck her foot, her whole hand and arm in it. She issued an apology, but it was too late. Endorsements are sure to fall away. I hope she's saved her money and can drink her lynching lemonade on her porch.

[Roberta75]

Food Network has dropped Paula Dean's shows from the network. I told you that it would happen. Paula was foolish, she gave FN a good reason to can her ass. She didn't see that her successors were in place and the ax was in the air waiting to chop. She's Dumb. She opened her mouth and stuck her whole hand and arm in it. She issued an apology, but it was too late. Endorsements are sure to fall away. I hope she's saved her money and can drink her lynching lemonade on her porch.

Ms Paula Dean brought this on herself and now she must make ammends with her maker.

I will never understood why people always resorts to racial slurs. Your vocabulary must be real limited and you must have so much hate and anger in your heart. smh in disbelief and disapointment.

Roberta

[soulster]

Food Network has dropped Paula Dean's shows from the network. I told you that it would happen. Paula was foolish, she gave FN a good reason to can her ass. She didn't see that her successors were in place and the ax was in the air waiting to chop. She's Dumb. She opened her mouth and stuck her foot, her whole hand and arm in it. She issued an apology, but it was too late. Endorsements are sure to fall away. I hope she's saved her money and can drink her lynching lemonade on her porch.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/paula-deen-fired-food-network-cancels-show-after-racism-scandal_n_3480517.html?bv-life

Hah! They had been looking for a reason to kick her off anyway. The bitch just made it easier for them.

It probably wouldn't have been this way if she had not been so caviler about the issue. She acted like the "n" word was really no big deal, and that repeating offensive jokes was OK. Add that to her love of Black slaves serving de White people food was the icing. That "apology" she issued wasn't even an apology. The only thing she's sorry about is that people noticed.

I'm sure Rupert Murdoch will find a place for her on one of his networks, just like he does with all the other prominent racists/bigots who get fired from everywhere else.

[Kamasu_Jr]

My wife said she always suspected Ol' Paula's neck was a deep shade of red. She said Paula once made a reference about a black guest cutting "someone's ass" if they messed with her. My sister said she was insulted when Paula prepared fried chicken and collard greens when actress Viola Davis was a guest. Paula did admit she liked the movie The Help. It probably reminded her of her dear ol' mammy. Turns out Deen's contract at Food Network was soon to expire and renegotiations had not been going well anyway. Her contract was up at the end of this month.

[nysister]

Kam, don't forget that this deposition is responding to charges that her bigotry manifested in her illegal treatment of someone in her employ. I suspect that a white person working for you would have grounds to sue you for using the language you described toward him.

From what I heard on the news, the person bringing the suit is a white person who got fed up because she has children that are mixed in her family.

[soulster]

You think this is bad, see this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/paula-deen-racism_n_3480720.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

[Roberta75]

You think this is bad, see this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/paula-deen-racism_n_3480720.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

See this has been going on for years and tears and Paula Dean is only appologizing cause she got caught smh.

Roberta

[soulster]

I think the term "accidental racist" may apply here She seriously doesn't think she says or does anything wrong. She's totally ignorant of Black people, and, despite having grown up dirt poor for a time, she has no understanding. She exhibits classic sociopathic behavior. It only hurts her when she is negatively affected.

The one thing that makes it worse are all the enablers who are Black, like her pastor and manager. The pastor is naive, and the manager probably gets paid well enough to ignore her behavior. It's like Black republicans. They are part of, speak for, and are apologists for a fundamentally racist, and sexist party, all for a nice rub on the head. Dem white folk sure love that wooly, spongy hair!

[Jerry Oz]

You think this is bad, see this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/paula-deen-racism_n_3480720.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Wow. So, my guy Hollis is "black as this board"? I am surprised that she did not go all the way with that and call him "blurple" in front of that crowd.

[milven]

I think the term "accidental racist" may apply here She seriously doesn't think she says or does anything wrong. She's totally ignorant of Black people, and, ...has no understanding. She exhibits classic sociopathic behavior. It only hurts her when she is negatively affected.

Her apology was worse than her actions. She was sorry for the ramifications that her words and actions brought to her. I'm not sure what is an accidental racist.

As a child of the fifties, I was ignorant of black people [[colored People back then). There were none in my school and the only black people on TV were those in stereotypical roles. Even the music that I listened to was homogenized cover versions of the Clovers, Moonglows, Spaniels, Little Richard. [[I just didn't know at the time that I was listening to covers of the originals)

But as I was growing up and started being exposed to more of the world, some of that world included black people and if I unknowingly had any prejudice because of ignorance, it disapeared.

So, I don't understand the term accidental racist. Today, we are all exposed to all kinds of people in all kinds of roles on tv and in real life. How can anyone be "totally ignorant of Black people"?

Racism IS caused by ignorance. But how can anyone be ignorant of race in today's connected world?

Paula isn't ignorant. She is STUPID !!!!

[Kamasu_Jr]

Living in the south, I kind of expect most whites to be racists. It's part of the history here, feel me? I know not all whites think in racist terms. But racism is alive and well in 2013. Things have gotten worse rather than better. When we first moved to Memphis, there was just white folk and black folk, very few Asians, a few Middle Easterners and that was it. Some whites tended to intermingle or socialize with Blacks. We ate at the same restaurants, went to the some of the same events, lived in the same communities. But as Memphis has become more culturally or racially diverse, those old attitudes and segregation have reappeared in some people.

[marv2]

Her apology was worse than her actions. She was sorry for the ramifications that her words and actions brought to her. I'm not sure what is an accidental racist.

As a child of the fifties, I was ignorant of black people [[colored People back then). There were none in my school and the only black people on TV were those in stereotypical roles. Even the music that I listened to was homogenized cover versions of the Clovers, Moonglows, Spaniels, Little Richard. [[I just didn't know at the time that I was listening to covers of the originals)

But as I was growing up and started being exposed to more of the world, some of that world included black people and if I unknowingly had any prejudice because of ignorance, it disapeared.

So, I don't understand the term accidental racist. Today, we are all exposed to all kinds of people in all kinds of roles on tv and in real life. How can anyone be "totally ignorant of Black people"?

Racism IS caused by ignorance. But how can anyone be ignorant of race in today's connected world?

Paula isn't ignorant. She is STUPID !!!!

Racism is also caused by hate and an evil heart. It is intentional. Ignorance can sometimes be an involuntary condition of just not knowing about certain people, things and places. Rascists know exactly what they are doing and how they feel which is why it is still so persistent in this country.

[marv2]

A child can be excused for ignorance, for not knowing
, but not a grown ass ,old woman like Paula Dean. She is just hateful, stubborn and evil.

[Jerry Oz]

I think that a lot of the attitude is based on the belief that "somebody has to be better than others, so why not us?" It has been stated that white people will be a statistical minority in the next 20 years, so people are hoping against hope that the chickens of hatred will not be roosting. It manifested itself in last year's election and still is revealed when politicians prefer to change election rules than adapt to the voting public.

Why can't things be like they used to be? From their standpoint, everybody was happy in the good old days when they ran things and the coloreds all knew their place. Thank God everybody does not feel that way, but this sad case just reminds us that some still do.

[Roberta75]

I read this on yahoo news earlier today.

"The fallout may not end with Food Network. At least two other companies that do business with Deen say they're keeping a close eye on the controversy. Las Vegas-based Caesars Entertainment Corporation, which has Deen's restaurants in some of its casinos, said Friday that it "will continue to monitor the situation." Publisher Ballantine, which has a new Deen book scheduled to roll out this fall, used similar words."

It would serve Miss Paula Dean right if all sponsors drop her and they should. She need to make this right with her maker her heart and the public and until she go on a sincere paths to redemption this gonna haunt her till her dying day.

Roberta

[marv2]

From the opposing side!

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/paula-deen-fans-vent-outrage-food-network-180024556.html

This country still have a lot of racist people.......

[soulster]

Her apology was worse than her actions. She was sorry for the ramifications that her words and actions brought to her. I'm not sure what is an accidental racist.

Well, "accidental racist" was likely a term made popular by country artist Brad Paisley and LL Cool J, and the recent song of the same title on Paisley's recent "Wheelhouse" album.

An "accidental racist" is a person who says, does, and believes things that are identified as racist, but may not see anything wrong with what they say, do, or believe [[think: Archie Bunker). It happens when people are socially isolated from those that they have the racist attitudes about, and/or when stereotypes are believed about those people, then try to rationalize it. The fact that they have to rationalize what they think, say, or behave means that deep down they know better. I'm in a hurry to get somewhere, so that;as the best way I can explain it right now. For an example: recently when I was talking to a white person from the south about talking about bigotry against those from the Middle East, he said

"When 9/11, it was alright to call them "towel heads". Everyone I knew called them that until it became politically incorrect".

In this case, he thought it was OK because "everyone" did it. It was the cultural norm. They probably never interacted with anyone from the Middle East, much less knowingly saw one in real life.

Here's another commentary on the Pauls Deen controversy: http://entertainment.time.com/2013/06/20/less-than-accidental-racist-why-paula-deens-comments-insult-her-fans-too/

[soulster]

Living in the south, I kind of expect most whites to be racists. It's part of the history here, feel me? I know not all whites think in racist terms. But racism is alive and well in 2013. Things have gotten worse rather than better. When we first moved to Memphis, there was just white folk and black folk, very few Asians, a few Middle Easterners and that was it. Some whites tended to intermingle or socialize with Blacks. We ate at the same restaurants, went to the some of the same events, lived in the same communities. But as Memphis has become more culturally or racially diverse, those old attitudes and segregation have reappeared in some people.

My experience growing up in the southwest was different. Sure, there were a lot of white racists, but, many of them kept it well-hidden, but, somehow, you just "knew" who it was. Many of them weren't. But, now over the last 30 years, we have had a huge influx of older white people from the upper midwest and the south, and heavily republican, I might add. It's to the point where I have to keep my guard up for what they may say to me, and. believe it, I may as well be down south! And, they spawn children who think the same way, so it's not just older folks. We have seen recent comments of the children of Arizona's [[R) senator Jeff Flake's teenage son on Twitter and Facebook in recent weeks, and those of Nevada's [[R) representative Joe Heck's son too.

I submit that places all over are becoming more bigoted and racist because of the election of Pres. Barrack Obama, and the increase in numbers of non-white citizens in this country. The white people who once dominated this nation in every way suddenly feel threatened, Their way of life, as they see it, is disappearing. They are no longer in power. It makes perfect sense that racism is very alive in the south because there are actually more Blacks living in the south than in anywhere else in this country. That is a statistical fact. Racism has also shown up in heavily Latino areas, such as Arizona, Texas, Florida, and Southern California. It's no accident that most of these places are very politically republican. It't just that the Whites, who have dominated the power structure, are dwindling in numbers, and they feel threatened. It's brought out the worst in many people, especially those who thought they weren't racist.

[Shaqueetha_Jackson]

http://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3GnV1ztF4geHBtU6Y75g0YiC54yZbFWb

If this link doesn't work, YouTube Search: White Privilege, Racism, White Denial & the Cost of Inequality.

[soulster]

Thanks, Shaqueetha [[http://soulfuldetroit.com/member.php?1982-Shaqueetha_Jackson)! I'll watch this later!

[milven]

A lot of changes have happened to Paula Deen this week. She lost her job, her endorsements, her reputation and more. I hope she handles change better than her great-grandfather. When he had to set his thirty slaves free, he went out in the barn and shot himself because he couldn't deal with those kind of changes.

[soulster]

A lot of changes have happened to Paula Deen this week. She lost her job, her endorsements, her reputation and more. I hope she handles change better than her great-grandfather. When he had to set his thirty slaves free, he went out in the barn and shot himself because he couldn't deal with those kind of changes. Boo-hoo! I wonder how many of his slaves killed themselves because they couldn't handle their changes.

Paula Deen will bounce back, just like so many other people who have made racial gaffs. Don Imus is still around. Glen Beck is still around. Charlie Sheen is still around. Jesse Jackson is still around, and Deen will be too. All she has to do is shut up and hide for a few months. Hell! She doesn't even have to prove to anyone she is enlightened because there are enough people out there who still accept her. We've already got one Black pastor sticking up for her.

Maybe Deen should live in New York City for a few years. The city is highly diverse and liberal. Oh, she should live in a predominantly Black area. The point of that is to get away from that bubble of the white southern mentality. People are less bigoted when they travel and live among diverse peoples.

Sometimes the best way to deal with bigots and racists is to not get angry at them or tell them off, but show them.

[marv2]

Boo-hoo! I wonder how many of his slaves killed themselves because they couldn't handle their changes.

Paula Deen will bounce back, just like so many other people who have made racial gaffs. Don Imus is still around. Glen Beck is still around. Charlie Sheen is still around. Jesse Jackson is still around, and Deen will be too. All she has to do is shut up and hide for a few months. Hell! She doesn't even have to prove to anyone she is enlightened because there are enough people out there who still accept her. We've already got one Black pastor sticking up for her.

Maybe Deen should live in New York City for a few years. The city is highly diverse and liberal. Oh, she should live in a predominantly Black area. The point of that is to get away from that bubble of the white southern mentality. People are less bigoted when they travel and live among diverse peoples.

Sometimes the best way to deal with bigots and racists is to not get angry at them or tell them off, but show them.

Soulster, having her live in NYC would change nothing about her! True story. Back in the late 90's a company I was working for at the time hired and relocated a woman who had been in our industry for years from Nashville, TN.
Once she was in New York, she proceeded to continue to call most of the guys in our firm "Bubba" and the women, "Gurl"! Unbeknownst to me and the only other African American in my office, a female. She referred to us as "The Monkeys" behind our backs! She would only say it around the white employees there hoping to get laughs. WELLLLLL! They do not play that in New York. It was not very long before it all came to light. She had fired the African American woman and tried to reassign me, giving my work to a new hired white guy with little to no experience. A white employee told management how this woman referred to African Americans as "monkeys, etc....."

Bottomline ---- she ended up with the company facing lawsuits. She was then transferred to Atlanta where she wanted to be and where they'd hoped she would fit in better . Guess what? Within two months of being in the Atlanta office, she started up again with an African American female working in our Atlanta office. The company was facing another lawsuit and finally had to dissmiss this awful, racist woman! Maybe she should have stayed in Tenn? I don't know, but I do know people take their racism with them wherever they go. Being nice and trying to get a person like that to like you does not work. They have made up their minds that they are better than you in some way!

Marv

[soulster]

Soulster, having her live in NYC would change nothing about her! True story. Back in the late 90's a company I was working for at the time hired and relocated a woman who had been in our industry for years from Nashville, TN.
Once she was in New York, she proceeded to continue to call most of the guys in our firm "Bubba" and the women, "Gurl"! Unbeknownst to me and the only other African American in my office, a female. She referred to us as "The Monkeys" behind our backs! She would only say it around the white employees there hoping to get laughs. WELLLLLL! They do not play that in New York. It was not very long before it all came to light. She had fired the African American woman and tried to reassign me, giving my work to a new hired white guy with little to no experience. A white employee told management how this woman referred to African Americans as "monkeys, etc....."

Bottomline ---- she ended up with the company facing lawsuits. She was then transferred to Atlanta where she wanted to be and where they'd hoped she would fit in better . Guess what? Within two months of being in the Atlanta office, she started up again with an African American female working in our Atlanta office. The company was facing another lawsuit and finally had to dissmiss this awful, racist woman! Maybe she should have stayed in Tenn? I don't know, but I do know people take their racism with them wherever they go. Being nice and trying to get a person like that to like you does not work. They have made up their minds that they are better than you in some way!

Marv
First, the company should have fired her when she was in still NYC! This tells me that the company has issues of its own.

Yeah, you're right. But, hey, it was just a suggestion. And, many people do change with long-term exposure. But, Paula Deen seems like she is open to learning something if she really wants to understand why she lost her contract, and it should happen now, before she realizes how much support she has among the bigots.

[soulster]

Soulster, having her live in NYC would change nothing about her! True story. Back in the late 90's a company I was working for at the time hired and relocated a woman who had been in our industry for years from Nashville, TN.
Once she was in New York, she proceeded to continue to call most of the guys in our firm "Bubba" and the women, "Gurl"! Unbeknownst to me and the only other African American in my office, a female. She referred to us as "The Monkeys" behind our backs! She would only say it around the white employees there hoping to get laughs. WELLLLLL! They do not play that in New York. It was not very long before it all came to light. She had fired the African American woman and tried to reassign me, giving my work to a new hired white guy with little to no experience. A white employee told management how this woman referred to African Americans as "monkeys, etc....."

Bottomline ---- she ended up with the company facing lawsuits. She was then transferred to Atlanta where she wanted to be and where they'd hoped she would fit in better . Guess what? Within two months of being in the Atlanta office, she started up again with an African American female working in our Atlanta office. The company was facing another lawsuit and finally had to dissmiss this awful, racist woman! Maybe she should have stayed in Tenn? I don't know, but I do know people take their racism with them wherever they go. Being nice and trying to get a person like that to like you does not work. They have made up their minds that they are better than you in some way!

Marv
First, the company should have fired her when she was in still NYC! This tells me that the company has issues of its own.

Yeah, you're right. But, hey, it was just a suggestion. And, many people do change with long-term exposure. But, Paula Deen seems like she is open to learning something if she really wants to understand why she lost her contract, and it should happen now, before she realizes how much support she has among the bigots.

You know, I was standing in line at my cable provider the other day before all of this broke out, and they had her show on one of the monitors. Now, I had never watched her show before, but while watching it while bored, I noticed something about her looked "off'. She looked very depressed. I guess we know why now. She got busted! I had never watched her show before because, I had once read about her bigotry.

[Roberta75]

Paula Dean lose ham endorsement. This story isnt going away. Time to make ammends miss Dean with your God and with the Black community and with your fans and within your heart and make ammends with everyone else you offendded with your ignorant and hateful words.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20711740,00.html

[soulster]

Paula Dean lose ham endorsement. This story isnt going away. Time to make ammends miss Dean with your God and with the Black community and with your fans and within your heart and make ammends with everyone else you offendded with your ignorant and hateful words.



An apology with tears isn't enough. It won't mean a thing unless she understand why she was so offensive. This isn't just about her use of the "n" word, it's about the mentality of a person who would use it. It's about how she dismissed her use of the word as no big deal. It's about as recent as late last year that she has that "slavery wasn't bad" mentality. She acted like she was among like-minded white folk on that stand, so it was OK to think that way. "Yes, of course!" You all know damn well she used that word more than once, and probably very recently. Her brother no doubt did too.

And, some Black people have to stop thinking that it's OK for white people to act that way too. Oh yeah! There are plenty of Blacks who also think this is no big deal.

And, Black people have got to stop using the word too!

White people can be close friends with Blacks and still not know or understand a thing about them or their history. Why? They don't have to.

[Kamasu_Jr]

Another video tape surfaced in which Paula Deen was discussing a friendship with a black gentleman s
he apparently has known for a while. I'm paraphrasing, but she said the man was as black as an old school chalkboard. The man happened to be in her audience and she told him to stand up in the room, which was dark. She had him come into the light, because she said he was so dark, the people couldn't see him. It showed how ignorant she really is.

[soulster]

Another video tape surfaced in which Paula Deen was discussing a friendship with a black gentleman s
he apparently has known for a while. I'm paraphrasing, but she said the man was as black as an old school chalkboard. The man happened to be in her audience and she told him to stand up in the room, which was dark. She had him come into the light, because she said he was so dark, the people couldn't see him. It showed how ignorant she really is.
That was the interview she did late last year in NYC, and someone already posted a link to it upthread. That Black man turned out to be her manager.

[Jerry Oz]

Wow. To illustrate her point of how black people were important to her social structure, she actually referred to how her great-grandfather ate a bullet when the war ended and "workers" went away. Like he missed them or something. Sick bastard realized that he now had to make payroll and took the coward' s way out. That is probably a story that is passed down from generation to generation in her family to show why you should hate Yankees and never trust them backstabbing colored people.

[marv2]

I am telling you. Anyone giving this woman a pass for her blatant racism is making a mistake! All those supporting her will feel completely justified in continuing to be racists if she winds up back on television.

Arsenio Hall was warned not to have Minister Louis Farrakhan on his show. He brought him on anyway and you have not seen much of Arsenio since and it's going on 20 years now!

[soulster]

Arsenio Hall was warned not to have Minister Louis Farrakhan on his show. He brought him on anyway and you have not seen much of Arsenio since and it's going on 20 years now!
That was a little different. Black people understand about Farrakhan, despite his issues with Jews. It is whites who retaliated against Arsenio Hall. Problem with all of this is that whites still have the power to successfully retaliate. Blacks don't. Black people, unfortunately, still aren't unified as they should be when it comes to these things. Blacks didn't support Hall when they could have. They were too afraid of what the white man would do if they did.

Blacks should learn how powerful a political and economical force they are because, Blacks were largely responsible for Obama being elected. You also see that Colin Powell wasn't afraid to show his support, yet we still have these didn't want to upset massa, so they joined the tea-bagger brigade to try to get ahead.

[Roberta75]

Another video tape surfaced in which Paula Deen was discussing a friendship with a black gentleman s
he apparently has known for a while. I'm paraphrasing, but she said the man was as black as an old school chalkboard. The man happened to be in her audience and she told him to stand up in the room, which was dark. She had him come into the light, because she said he was so dark, the people couldn't see him. It showed how ignorant she really is.

May God have mercy on this ignorant and racist and bigoted stupid woman. I feel this is just the tip of the icebergs. My gut tell me theres a whole lot more going to come out on Miss Paula Dean.

Roberta

[marv2]

Paula Deen is not simply ignorant. She is evil and deliberate! She knows better. She knows what the impact of certain racial slurs are. They used them in the South and elsewhere to keep a particular segment of the population down and in their "place". I do not consider her ignorant. She's been on the Earth too long and have used those words too many times to not know that they are hateful.

[marv2]

She lost another sponsor tonight. Some large food company.

[soulster]

Paula Deen is not simply ignorant. She is evil and deliberate! She knows better. She knows what the impact of certain racial slurs are. They used them in the South and elsewhere to keep a particular segment of the population down and in their "place". I do not consider her ignorant. She's been on the Earth too long and have used those words too many times to not know that they are hateful.

You contradicted yourself. You first say that she is "not simply ignorant", then you say you don't consider her ignorant. Which is it?

I do not believe she is evil, nor is she 100% ignorant. Sure, she knows her views are not popular on the large scale, that's why she was crying crocodile tears. But, when she gave that deposition on the stand, i'll bet that room was filled with White people, except for her "friend" who was as "black" as the chalkboard or wall". And, when she gave that interview, she searched for her words to explain away her views on slavery. She also knew she was in trouble when she had to explain away her idea of a "traditional" southern wedding for her brother.

[marv2]

You contradicted yourself. You first say that she is "not simply ignorant", then you say you don't consider her ignorant. Which is it?

I do not believe she is evil, nor is she 100% ignorant. Sure, she knows her views are not popular on the large scale, that's why she was crying crocodile tears. But, when she gave that deposition on the stand, i'll bet that room was filled with White people, except for her "friend" who was as "black" as the chalkboard or wall". And, when she gave that interview, she searched for her words to explain away her views on slavery. She also knew she was in trouble when she had to explain away her idea of a "traditional" southern wedding for her brother.

No I do not contradict myself. Poor wording, poor typing is all I am guilty of! When I used the phrase that she is "not simply ignornant" my intent was to show how some people are characterizing Ms. Dean. This is what I mean: SHE IS NOT IGNORANT AT ALL WHEN IT COMES TO USING RACIAL OR ETHNIC SLURS!!!!!

She does that shit on purpose and anyone that believes that a 66 year old woman that has built a career and business up to the point of becoming a millionaire is ignorant when she says these terrible things are being naive or just too forgiving of it!

[marv2]

You contradicted yourself. You first say that she is "not simply ignorant", then you say you don't consider her ignorant. Which is it?

I do not believe she is evil, nor is she 100% ignorant. Sure, she knows her views are not popular on the large scale, that's why she was crying crocodile tears. But, when she gave that deposition on the stand, i'll bet that room was filled with White people, except for her "friend" who was as "black" as the chalkboard or wall". And, when she gave that interview, she searched for her words to explain away her views on slavery. She also knew she was in trouble when she had to explain away her idea of a "traditional" southern wedding for her brother.

Well then we just disagree. She is evil alright..........

[Jerry Oz]

Now, you have a bunch of black enablers saying that it's not cool that black people can use the word and white people can't. I'm pretty sure that I'd have the same reaction if it was a black chef talking about black, white, yellow, or red people in the manner that this ho talked about black people. They use false equivalencies to confuse the point and the debate.

And I'm shocked that her people permitted her to come back with a message that she's sorry that her words were hurtful to those who used them, not that she's sorry that she thinks slavery was cool and that it's okay to call a crook a nigger because he's black.

Many years ago, I overheard a white co-worker tell another employee that she was robbed on her other job. When the other employee asked if the robber was black or white, her response was "what do you think?" She then observed me listening and apologized. The funny thing is that 90% of the robberies in my part of the world are committed by white people. SMH.

[soulster]

No I do not contradict myself. Poor wording, poor typing is all I am guilty of! When I used the phrase that she is "not simply ignornant" my intent was to show how some people are characterizing Ms. Dean. This is what I mean: SHE IS NOT IGNORANT AT ALL WHEN IT COMES TO USING RACIAL OR ETHNIC SLURS!!!!!

She does that shit on purpose and anyone that believes that a 66 year old woman that has built a career and business up to the point of becoming a million is ignorant when she says these terrible things are being naive or just too forgiving of it! OK, now I understand what you're saying, and I agree! Where she is ignorant, though, is in her beliefs.

She was just dropped by Smithfield, and now her other partners are re-evaluating her.

[soulster]

Now, you have a bunch of black enablers saying that it's not cool that black people can use the word and white people can't. I'm pretty sure that I'd have the same reaction if it was a black chef talking about black, white, yellow, or red people in the manner that this ho talked about black people. They use false equivalencies to confuse the point and the debate.

And I'm shocked that her people permitted her to come back with a message that she's sorry that her words were hurtful to those who used them, not that she's sorry that she thinks slavery was cool and that it's okay to call a crook a nigger because he's black.

Many years ago, I overheard a white co-worker tell another employee that she was robbed on her other job. When the other employee asked if the robber was black or white, her response was "what do you think?" She then observed me listening and apologized. The funny thing is that 90% of the robberies in my part of the world are committed by white people. SMH. Most bank robberies are committed by whites here too, but that stereotype persists. Most white people think blacks [[and in some areas, Mexicans) are doing all the crime. That is because that is what the media and law enforcement focuses on. You ever see that show "Bait Car"? 90% of all you see on that show are Black and Mexican doing the crime. Well, the cops set up stings in minority areas. What do you think you're going to get? So, everyone gets scared of one of them "minorities" stealin' their car, while the white guys are walking around with devices that open your car door. They are also skimming your credit card info with their little laptop as they sit just yards away from the ATM.

[Jerry Oz]

It's all a game. We just have to know the rules. Consider:
If you get caught stealing a $25,000 car, you're going to get a mandatory minimum sentence [[in some states); maybe 3-5 years. How many of the Wall Street bankers who were found to have stolen BILLIONS were even charged with a crime?

Another rule of the game? There's this:
If you get caught making a rolling stop in Arizona and you look illegal, you'd better prove that you're not. WTF? We don't have Germans, Chinese, Russians, Irish, and French people here on expired visas? Don't they look illegal?

You gotta know how to play it.

[soulster]

Another rule of the game? There's this:
If you get caught making a rolling stop in Arizona and you look illegal, you'd better prove that you're not. WTF? We don't have Germans, Chinese, Russians, Irish, and French people here on expired visas? Don't they look illegal?

Don't forget English-speaking Canadians that overstay their Visas too...

[Roberta75]

She was just dropped by Smithfield, and now her other partners are re-evaluating her.

Paula Dean is going to be interviewed by Matt Laur on the Today show on Wednesday tomorrow. I hope Matt is really is firm and really throw hard questions at her and makes her explain her racist views and why she is like the way she is. He should not go easy with her. Miss Dean got some explaining to do and a tearful apology isnt going to cut it.

Roberta

[soulster]

Paula Dean is going to be interviewed by Matt Laur on the Today show on Wednesday tomorrow. I hope Matt is really is firm and really throw hard questions at her and makes her explain her racist views and why she is like the way she is. He should not go easy with her. Miss Dean got some explaining to do and a tearful apology isnt going to cut it.

Roberta
I agree! Of course, i'll bet her handlers are already telling him that they don't want hard questions.

Someone needs to make it clear to that woman why her views and behavior are wrong and offensive.

[Roberta75]

I agree! Of course, i'll bet her handlers are already telling him that they don't want hard questions.

Someone needs to make it clear to that woman why her views and behavior are wrong and offensive.

If Mr Matt Laur doesnt ask hard questions and demand real detailed answers he'll look like a fool.

Roberta

[marv2]

Now, you have a bunch of black enablers saying that it's not cool that black people can use the word and white people can't. I'm pretty sure that I'd have the same reaction if it was a black chef talking about black, white, yellow, or red people in the manner that this ho talked about black people. They use false equivalencies to confuse the point and the debate.

And I'm shocked that her people permitted her to come back with a message that she's sorry that her words were hurtful to those who used them, not that she's sorry that she thinks slavery was cool and that it's okay to call a crook a nigger because he's black.

Many years ago, I overheard a white co-worker tell another employee that she was robbed on her other job. When the other employee asked if the robber was black or white, her response was "what do you think?" She then observed me listening and apologized. The funny thing is that 90% of the robberies in my part of the world are committed by white people. SMH.

Jerry excellent post!
Those black people you refer to as enablers are part of the problem as to why we still have racism rappant in this country on all sides! For example, if I were Jewish and I heard someone or some group deny the Holocaust ever happened, I'd be right up in their faces and make sure that they never forgot it! It was a horrible time in human history. Slavery was no different and legal Apartheid that occurred afterwards was a horrible era in human history.
Only people that have no direct or indirect connection to these atrocities can shrug them off with a pert "Get Over It!" When I hear that as a response, I blow gasket everytime!

I don't dwell on racism , nor do view myself as a victim. I was raise to stand up, speak up and kick ass if need be! The week that O.J. Simpson was found not guilty, you should have the comments I did when people at first did not realize I was around or in the same room! It was awful!

[marv2]

OK, now I understand what you're saying, and I agree! Where she is ignorant, though, is in her beliefs.

She was just dropped by Smithfield, and now her other partners are re-evaluating her.

Thank you. But in her beliefs are the beliefs of her parents and ancestors that she was raise with. In her beliefs , she believes that Black people are inferior to her and people like herself.

Reminds me of that great television moment when a half drunk Archie Bunker begins to question what he was taught about "other people" by the father he loved so dearly. How could his old man be so wrong........ Remember that episode?

[milven]

Paula Dean is going to be interviewed by Matt Laur on the Today show on Wednesday tomorrow...
Roberta

Usually, she goes on that show to do cooking segments. I guess tomorrow, she will let us know that her goose is cooked. As far as I'm concerned,

6839

[Roberta75]

Usually, she goes on that show to do cooking segments. I guess tomorrow, she will let us know that her goose is cooked. As far as I'm concerned,

6839

lol milven and shes brought it all on herself.

Roberta

[Ryon6]

Charlie Sheen, a Mexican, called his wife the "N-word". Surprised, not!

I've never like Paula Deen and used to question my co-workers why they like her or look at her show.

[Jerry Oz]

The redemption process is in full swing. Now it's about her use of the word "nigger" and no longer about how she views black people or misses the "old South". The entertainment shows are full of people declaring how wonderful she really is. They just talked to a columnist for Time magazine [[black, of course) who thinks we should just move on let her get back in the kitchen. I say we let him get back in the cotton fields since she would like seeing him there doing what she misses seeing colored folk doing.

[marv2]

The redemption process is in full swing. Now it's about her use of the word "nigger" and no longer about how she views black people or misses the "old South". The entertainment shows are full of people declaring how wonderful she really is. They just talked to a columnist for Time magazine [[black, of course) who thinks we should just move on let her get back in the kitchen. I say we let him get back in the cotton fields since she would like seeing him there doing what she misses seeing colored folk doing.

That columnist doesn't understand that his attitude towards this situation is what helps it to prevail! He is one of those dudes that say, hey, I have a great car, a great home and a great job now. It doesn't matter that I and my people have been drugged through the mud, shit on and murdered for sport and entertainment for over 300 years........let's just move on now and give this racist bitch a pass......! Sorry but I'm not buying it or going along with his suggestion.

[marv2]

Charlie Sheen, a Mexican, called his wife the "N-word". Surprised, not!

I've never like Paula Deen and used to question my co-workers why they like her or look at her show.


Charlie Sheen is an asshole first and anything else he is comes afterwards........

[soulster]

Awwww! Matt Lauer didn't ask the right questions. He let her get away with a lot of crap. he may have exposed a place where she contradicted herself, but he didn't challenge it. And Deen didn't say or do anything to help her case. She evaded questions and is defiant. Now, it's everyone's else's fault she's in this p[predicament.

Screw her!

Here's a good followup article: http://www.today.com/entertainment/paula-deens-today-apology-failed-was-bizarre-experts-say-6C10452611

[Methuselah2]

Paula Deen & Matt Lauer
TODAY SHOW
6/26/2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suvJoI5y7Hk

[soulster]

Walmart [[http://www.today.com/food/walmart-ends-relationship-paula-deen-6C10452621) just dropped her. For once they do the right thing.

Again, it's not about her use of the word in a denigrating context, it's about her history of unsavory comments about Blacks and slavery, her lack of genuine sincerity, her inability to take ownership of her actions, her attempt to blame others for her actions, and for her inability to understand why her words and views are offensive.

All of this doesn't say much good for her supporters, either.

Oh...BTW, anyone notice how she slipped in Jesse Jackson's name in her little scripted sob-fest?

[Ryon6]

Now she fesses to using the term "once". SMH!

[Roberta75]

Paula Deen & Matt Lauer
TODAY SHOW
6/26/2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suvJoI5y7Hk

I see dry tears and little remorse. Her "i is what i is" comment at the end was real phony and fake down home country and way overboard. I didnt see a woman humbled I saw a arrogant woman who hasnt learned much smh.

Roberta

[Roberta75]

Walmart drops Paula Dean. This isnt going way and it look like her apperance on Matt laur didnt help at all.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-walmart-drops-paula-deen-20130626,0,1518850.story

[marv2]

Awwww! Matt Lauer didn't ask the right questions. He let her get away with a lot of crap. he may have exposed a place where she contradicted herself, but he didn't challenge it. And Deen didn't say or do anything to help her case. She evaded questions and is defiant. Now, it's everyone's else's fault she's in this p[predicament.

Screw her!

Here's a good followup article: http://www.today.com/entertainment/paula-deens-today-apology-failed-was-bizarre-experts-say-6C10452611

Screw her big time! I am sure you noticed her slick way of displacing her own guilt in using racist language onto the young people that work in her kitchens. She gave her little fake sermonette on how they need to be more respectful and stop using the N-word aka nigger.

[marv2]

Walmart [[http://www.today.com/food/walmart-ends-relationship-paula-deen-6C10452621) just dropped her. For once they do the right thing. Click on the name Walmart [[http://www.today.com/food/walmart-ends-relationship-paula-deen-6C10452621). Again, it's not about her use of the word in a denigrating context, it's about her history of unsavory comments about Blacks and slavery, her lack of genuine sincerity, her inability to take ownership of her actions, her attempt to blame others for her actions, and for her inability to understand why her words and views are offensive.

All of this doesn't say much good for her supporters, either.

Oh...BTW, anyone notice how she slipped in Jesse Jackson's name in her little scripted sob-fest?

People act as Paula Dean is acting when they get caught! She stands to loose a lot of money which is the greatest motivating factor in her wimpy apologies. I am not an unforgiving person, but when you insult me and then attempt to cover it up by lying, I have no use for you and very little sympathy!

[marv2]

Now she fesses to using the term "once". SMH!

Yeah, she said once in 30 years. Now explain to me how this woman can remember only using that one word, one time in 3 decades?

She is lying.

[soulster]

She just lost Target [[http://www.today.com/food/diabetes-drug-maker-suspends-relationship-paula-deen-6C10452621), Home Depo, and a drug maker has suspended ties with her. WE can now add them to Sears and QVC dropping her.

Here is where Jesse Jackson [[http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/entertainment/apnewsbreak-jackson-says-deen-can-be-redeemed/nYWpK/) plays into this. Interesting, thing, though: she called him, but Jackson hasn't been recognized as a Black leader for a long time. Not that he isn't, it's just that most white people don't have a clue, and still think of Jesse, and usually not in very flattering terms.

A bad week for the buttery bigot.

She needs to stop being defiant, stop talking, and recognize just what it is people are upset about. It isn't so much the use of the "n" word, it's her attitude and belief system that killed her. The appearance on The Today Show was the icing on the cake.

[Jerry Oz]

She longs for the time that black "workers" served at the beck and call of their masters. Think about that for a minute. Who cares if those clean shirts and bow ties covered scars from the whipping and flogging they took to break their spirit? Who cares about families separated and sold off? Women being raped in the middle of the night as the husband listened from the next room, powerless? The endless nightmare of the Middle Passage, where people were chained to each other as cargo and thrown overboard if they got sick to let the sharks feed?

Ahhh! The glorious days of the Old South!

[soulster]

She longs for the time that black "workers" served at the beck and call of their masters. Think about that for a minute. Who cares if those clean shirts and bow ties covered scars from the whipping and flogging they took to break their spirit? Who cares about families separated and sold off? Women being raped in the middle of the night as the husband listened from the next room, powerless? The endless nightmare of the Middle Passage, where people were chained to each other as cargo and thrown overboard if they got sick to let the sharks feed?

Ahhh! The glorious days of the Old South!
To this day I cannot bring myself to buy or eat Cream of Wheat, Aunt Jemima, or Uncle Ben's products.

[soulster]

Here is an excellent opinion piece on PD's situation, and I agree with her 100%: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/26/opinion/paula-deen-racist-apology/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

[funky_fresh]

How anyone is putting any importance on what a 66 year old White woman from the south said upmteen years ago or yesterday for that matter baffles me. Who is really surprised? She's 66 and from Georgia. If anything, appreciate her honesty. She admitted to something that im sure 99% of all Americans [[Black, White, all races for that matter) has thought or said at some point in time of their life and would likely never admit to. Are we really that naive to think otherwise? I guess for the racist police this is a solid victory. Any chance to claim holier-than-though and convict a person they don't even know is like a fun game for them. Seeing the charges of this woman on everything from evil to sociopath is just laughable. Shes human and she made a dumb mistake...for whatever reason. She will now pay financially and has clearly been convicted in the court of public opinion. My guess is that she will make a comeback from this eventually. Most people who are caught making racist comments in Hollywood or TV make a bounce back after time. Hymie-town anyone?
I will say this though: to disparage fellow Blacks who use this time to bring up our peoples own ignorance in perpetuating the ignorant use of this hateful word is just wrong. There is no defense of our people today throwing this word around and we cannot expect it to be driven from the lips of whites until its driven from our own.

[soulster]

No, funkyfresh, she was not totally honest. This is not about her use of the "n" word. This is about her refusal or inability to recognize the harm of her words. What's worse, she persists in blaming others for her problems. Did you even read the link to the article I posted above yours? The author is deaf-on in her assessment of Deen and her gaffs.

Making excuses that she's a 66-year-old woman from the south doesn't wash. She must be made accountable for her words. That is why all of her corporate partners are bolting.

She made a mistake? She's made many of them, and one was to go on the Today Show and blame everyone else, not apologize, not own up to her beliefs, and, on top of that, she was defiant and made more insulting racial references [["I is what I is, and I ain't changing!"). She doesn't do herself any favors by sounding more ignorant than she already is.

I agree with you in part on your final point, that, we, as Black people need to stop using that word too. By the continued use of that word by blacks, no matter what justification there mat be for it, gives whites, Latinos, and everyone else an excuse. For the record, I never use the word. I did not grow up with it in my home, and I scold family and anyone else I hear use it.

[Roberta75]

How anyone is putting any importance on what a 66 year old White woman from the south said upmteen years ago or yesterday for that matter baffles me. Who is really surprised? She's 66 and from Georgia. If anything, appreciate her honesty. She admitted to something that im sure 99% of all Americans [[Black, White, all races for that matter) has thought or said at some point in time of their life and would likely never admit to. Are we really that naive to think otherwise? I guess for the racist police this is a solid victory. Any chance to claim holier-than-though and convict a person they don't even know is like a fun game for them. Seeing the charges of this woman on everything from evil to sociopath is just laughable. Shes human and she made a dumb mistake...for whatever reason. She will now pay financially and has clearly been convicted in the court of public opinion. My guess is that she will make a comeback from this eventually. Most people who are caught making racist comments in Hollywood or TV make a bounce back after time. Hymie-town anyone?
I will say this though: to disparage fellow Blacks who use this time to bring up our peoples own ignorance in perpetuating the ignorant use of this hateful word is just wrong. There is no defense of our people today throwing this word around and we cannot expect it to be driven from the lips of whites until its driven from our own.

Paul Dean wanted a plantation style wedding and this was real recent. Miss Paula wanted a a old south style feel to it “that represented a certain era in America.” How insulting and offensive is that?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/06/paula-deen-racial.php

Roberta

[Roberta75]

No, funkyfresh, she was not totally honest. This is not about her use of the "n" word. This is about her refusal or inability to recognize the harm of her words. What's worse, she persists in blaming others for her problems. Did you even read the link to the article I posted above yours? The author is deaf-on in her assessment of Deen and her gaffs.

Making excuses that she's a 66-year-old woman from the south doesn't wash. She must be made accountable for her words. That is why all of her corporate partners are bolting.

She made a mistake? She's made many of them, and one was to go on the Today Show and blame everyone else, not apologize, not own up to her beliefs, and, on top of that, she was defiant and made more insulting racial references [["I is what I is, and I ain't changing!"). She doesn't do herself any favors by sounding more ignorant than she already is.

I agree with you in part on your final point, that, we, as Black people need to stop using that word too. By the continued use of that word by blacks, no matter what justification there mat be for it, gives whites, Latinos, and everyone else an excuse. For the record, I never use the word. I did not grow up with it in my home, and I scold family and anyone else I hear use it.

Everybody need to stop using the N word imo and I mean everybody.

Roberta

[soulster]

Everybody need to stop using the N word imo and I mean everybody.

Roberta Correct!

But, here's the problem: most of the media, and white people who defend her, want you to think it's all about that one word. If that were all it was, there'd be no issue.

What is disturbing is how many people are supporting her, even enough to make her book #1, where if this hadn't happened, it wouldn't have had a chance. It tells me that there are a LOT of like-minded people out there who probably [[and some, ignorantly) agree with her views on race. And I know there are some people out there who wish we could go back to enslaving Black people.

The "n"-word is beside the point. The real issue is Paula Deen's attitude before and after this news hit. A person doesn't have to be a racist to have racist views. But, does a racist have racist views? Of course!

"Accidental racist" describes her to a tee! The problem with these accidental racists is that they don't want to change, and Ms. Deen has stated that she isn't going to. That is why she lost more business. And, the people boycotting Walmart, Target, Home Depo, Sears, The Food network, and the others, isn't helping her case.

Let me ask you something, funky: do you excuse Jesse Jackson for his "hymie-town" remark like you think we should excuse Paula Deen for her remark? Or, are you one of those people who will forever throw that up whenever he is mentioned in a favorable light?

[Jerry Oz]

Two points for funky_fresh:
1. NOBODY who uses that word is worthy of a pass and should not be financially enabled, in my opinion. Especially someone who pointedly feels justified because she once was robbed by a black man.
2. She LONGS FOR THE DAYS WHEN YOU AND MANY OF YOUR LOVED ONES WERE THE PROPERTY OF HER AND WHITE PEOPLE. She is not the one to defend for making slip of the tongue.

[funky_fresh]

I never asked anyone to give her a pass. My point [[that everybody is missing) is that this is a cook. Not a head of state, not a civil rights advocate, a cook. How can anyone expect this person to be a Rhodes Scholar when it comes to history or race relations for that matter. She is known for using butter and cooking unhealthy food, that is all. I'm not insulted or offended, especially when I consider the source. Again, why give this any importance when there are so many more important things to be concerned about right now, like the erosion of our Constitutional right to privacy. I guess its ok as long as its being done under Obamas watch. All of this the intention of corporate owned media to get Black people distracted from what is really important in our lives and furthering the facade that this administration is looking out in the best interest of the American people.

And with regards to my comment on Hymie Town Jackson - my point is was simply that one can make it back in media even after saying racist comments. With Jackson in particular, his comeback [[did he ever leave?) was even more profound since he did the unmentionable which is to make a derogatory comment about Jews. That in 99 out of 100 times is the kiss of death for someone who spends their time on TV or in movies. If Jackson can comeback from that, you can bet that Paula Deen will be on TV again sometime soon.
What Paula Deen says, said, means or meant means less than nothing to me. Interpret her how you want, try to get into that giant, wrinkled head of hers. Go spend your time doing that. Meanwhile, turn on BET and be totally ok with our young people perpetuating the step and fetch it minstrel shows of yesteryear and the dumbification of language to make ourselves look like the ignorant ones.

[soulster]

Paul Dean wanted a plantation style wedding and this was real recent. Miss Paula wanted a a old south style feel to it “that represented a certain era in America.” How insulting and offensive is that?

It wasn't that recent. It's been a few years. Still, that idea was in her mind. She basically wanted to recreate the slavery days. She probably realized that no one would do it and nixed the idea.

But, i'm wondering what kind of Black people would work in such a restaurant. There was a lot of success for Blacks after the reconstruction, but I highly doubt any former slaves would run a place like that!

[soulster]

Funky, she's a FAMOUS cook who has/had lucrative deals with major companies! The is wealthy from being a COOK. So, yeah, it does matter what the says in public. It's why she is being punished now.

I kind of wonder why you seem to be sticking up for, or making excuses for her.

Jesse Jackson? He apologized. We haven't heard Louis Farrakkan apologize for his comments about the Jews' alleged "gutter religion".

[soulster]

Oh, add two more companies to that growing list: http://www.today.com/food/qvc-latest-drop-paula-deen-6C10452621

[Crystaledwards]

Check out how often marv - Marysfan - DetroitLives313 uses the disparaging and inflammatory terms fag, faggot and sissy in his YouTube responses. Does any one else in this forum find marv's antigay slurs offensive? I don't care what marv's personal beliefs are, but if they lead him to spread hate by using derogatory homophobic slurs on the public music-sharing website YouTube, then his beliefs deserve to be publicly challenged. Do you think we should call marv out for his cowardly gay bashing? I feel it is wrong to turn a blind eye to a bigot just because he shares the odd rare photo and some Motown knowledge with us. I would like to hear what other forum members think?

Look you sad faggot Mary Wilson is iconic! She is one of the most influential women in music! She does concerts all over the World, performs The Lena Horne Project, has new single out and Cultural Ambassador for the United States. Diane Ross is a recovering alcoholic that leans excessively on her children. Oh and she tours some whenever she can get a gig. That's all!

DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

I don't even think about Diana Ross like most people until you fools on here start emailing me about her trashy ass. Mary Wilson rules and will continue to do so! Everyone loves Mary. No one loves Diane except a small group of faggot freaks stuck in the 70's.

DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

Why because I busted on you and your worship of that old fag hag Diane Ross? LOL! Could you pick a better washed up Diva to worship than Mary's former singing partner?


DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

Only a few fags care about Diana Ross today.
DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

Hey you sissy punk, just because you don't like women, doesn't mean you can get away with saying what you want. You will not be commenting on any more my videos........you've been BLOCKED!
DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)



Fuck you! You big sissy punk!

DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)


On 6/22/2013 marv2 posted the following about celebrity chef Paula Deen.[[all words in bold red are direct quotes taken from marv2's postings)

Racism is also caused by hate and an evil heart. It is intentional. While I agree with what marv wrote about Ms. Deen, I would ask marv if homophobia is also caused by hate and an evil heart and challenge marv2 to publicly answer if his irresponsible gay bashing is intentionalor just an involuntary condition of just not knowing about certain people?

On 6/22/2013 marv2 had the following to say about Paula Deen. I am telling you. Anyone giving this woman a pass for her blatant racism is making a mistake!

While I completely agree with marv on Paula Deen's blatant racism, I have to ask, if we give marv a pass for his blatant homophobia, are we also making a mistake?

[Jerry Oz]

Crystal, what do you propose we should do about Marv? His span of influence is not as wide as Paula Deen's. He doesn't have millions of fans that will think it's okay to be a homophobe because Marv is. Quite the opposite for Deen. Even now, like-minded fans are rallying to her support, even as she disavows her own words and beliefs. Homophobia [[and especially violence based on it) is vile and bad in its own right. With that being said, you are as watering down the issue of a very popular celebrity who admitted that she loves the thought of black people being slaves by making a false equivalency that Marv's hateful words on YouTube have the same impact.

[soulster]

I would like to hear what other forum members think?

I think you should have stared a separate thread about it.

I clicked on your links and did not see any videos where Marv allegedly used those derogatory words. In fact, there are no videos at all of him, just videos of mostly Motown artists.

I do not know Marv, personally, or know him like you all do. I just chat with him here. I agree that bigotry against anyone is wrong [[except obsessive, rabid Diana Ross fans :) ) Just joshin'...no i'm not...yes I am...

This sounds like a personal vendetta, so you really should start a different thread about it. If Ralph sees this, he'll shut doen an otherwise good thread where no one is arguing.

[Crystaledwards]

Crystal, what do you propose we should do about Marv? His span of influence is not as wide as Paula Deen's. He doesn't have millions of fans that will think it's okay to be a homophobe because Marv is. Quite the opposite for Deen. Even now, like-minded fans are rallying to her support, even as she disavows her own words and beliefs. Homophobia [[and especially violence based on it) is vile and bad in its own right. With that being said, you are as watering down the issue of a very popular celebrity who admitted that she loves the thought of black people being slaves by making a false equivalency that Marv's hateful words on YouTube have the same impact.

Hate is hate and predjudice, be it of a racist, homophobic or sexist nature, is still predjudice. I am pointing out marv's hypocrisy and letting the members here know what they are dealing with. Millions of fans or a few followers on a forum shouldn't matter. Hate and bigotry should never be tolerated.

I despise Ms. Dean intensly for her racist views but cowardly homophobia also disgusts me.

[soulster]

Hate is hate and predjudice, be it of a racist, homophobic or sexist nature, is still predjudice. I am pointing out marv's hypocrisy and letting the members here know what they are dealing with. Millions of fans or a few followers on a forum shouldn't matter. Hate and bigotry should never be tolerated.

I despise Ms. Dean intensly for her racist views but cowardly homophobia also disgusts me.

It's wrong to hate someone because of a quality they were born with and cannot change.

Again, if you have an issue with marv, and I know several of you do, please start a separate thread about it. Please? This one;s about Paula Deen. Ralph still checks in on this forum.

[Crystaledwards]

I think you should have stared a separate thread about it.

I clicked on your links and did not see any videos where Marv allegedly used those derogatory words. In fact, there are no videos at all of him, just videos of mostly Motown artists.

I do not know Marv, personally, or know him like you all do. I just chat with him here. I agree that bigotry against anyone is wrong [[except obsessive, rabid Diana Ross fans :) ) Just joshin'...no i'm not...yes I am...

This sounds like a personal vendetta, so you really should start a different thread about it. If Ralph sees this, he'll shut doen an otherwise good thread where no one is arguing.

I have no personal vendetta against marv. I have been monitoring this thread for the past week and have to say I'm flabbergasted by marv's hypocrisy and felt exposing his homophobia was morally the right thing to do.

Would you like me to post the applicable Youtube videos where marv made the derogatory slurs?

As you correctly pointed out, all bigotry is wrong and my personal belief is bigotry should never be tolerated under any circumstances.

[Crystaledwards]

It's wrong to hate someone because of a quality they were born with and cannot change.

Again, if you have an issue with marv, and I know several of you do, please start a separate thread about it. Please? This one;s about Paula Deen. Ralph still checks in on this forum.

Succinctly put and I totally agree. People can no more change their skin color than they can change their sexual orientation which is why it is wrong to hate because of race, sexual orientation, physical appearance, disability or gender.

[soulster]

And the blood-letting continues: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/28/paula-deens-upcoming-cookbook-cancelled/?hpt=hp_t1

Oh, and how could we forget about the food?: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/26/paula-deen-and-southern-food-critics-say-credit-is-past-due/?hpt=hp_t1

[marv2]

Check out how often marv - Marysfan - DetroitLives313 uses the disparaging and inflammatory terms fag, faggot and sissy in his YouTube responses. Does any one else in this forum find marv's antigay slurs offensive? I don't care what marv's personal beliefs are, but if they lead him to spread hate by using derogatory homophobic slurs on the public music-sharing website YouTube, then his beliefs deserve to be publicly challenged. Do you think we should call marv out for his cowardly gay bashing? I feel it is wrong to turn a blind eye to a bigot just because he shares the odd rare photo and some Motown knowledge with us. I would like to hear what other forum members think?

Look you sad faggot Mary Wilson is iconic! She is one of the most influential women in music! She does concerts all over the World, performs The Lena Horne Project, has new single out and Cultural Ambassador for the United States. Diane Ross is a recovering alcoholic that leans excessively on her children. Oh and she tours some whenever she can get a gig. That's all!

DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

I don't even think about Diana Ross like most people until you fools on here start emailing me about her trashy ass. Mary Wilson rules and will continue to do so! Everyone loves Mary. No one loves Diane except a small group of faggot freaks stuck in the 70's.

DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

Why because I busted on you and your worship of that old fag hag Diane Ross? LOL! Could you pick a better washed up Diva to worship than Mary's former singing partner?


DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

Only a few fags care about Diana Ross today.
DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)

Hey you sissy punk, just because you don't like women, doesn't mean you can get away with saying what you want. You will not be commenting on any more my videos........you've been BLOCKED!
DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)



Fuck you! You big sissy punk!

DetroitLives313 [[http://www.youtube.com/user/DetroitLives313)


On 6/22/2013 marv2 posted the following about celebrity chef Paula Deen.[[all words in bold red are direct quotes taken from marv2's postings)

Racism is also caused by hate and an evil heart. It is intentional. While I agree with what marv wrote about Ms. Deen, I would ask marv if homophobia is also caused by hate and an evil heart and challenge marv2 to publicly answer if his irresponsible gay bashing is intentionalor just an involuntary condition of just not knowing about certain people?

On 6/22/2013 marv2 had the following to say about Paula Deen. I am telling you. Anyone giving this woman a pass for her blatant racism is making a mistake!

While I completely agree with marv on Paula Deen's blatant racism, I have to ask, if we give marv a pass for his blatant homophobia, are we also making a mistake?

Are you nuts?! Weren't you just banned from here and are now taking advantage of the fact that Ralph is moving as is offline a few days? You have a problem with me, bring it to me. This thread is about Paula Deen's racist slurs not about your perceived homophobia or whatever it is you're so upset about. You sound disturb to me. But if you want to come for me, bring it, come on!!!!!!

[marv2]

I think you should have stared a separate thread about it.

I clicked on your links and did not see any videos where Marv allegedly used those derogatory words. In fact, there are no videos at all of him, just videos of mostly Motown artists.

I do not know Marv, personally, or know him like you all do. I just chat with him here. I agree that bigotry against anyone is wrong [[except obsessive, rabid Diana Ross fans :) ) Just joshin'...no i'm not...yes I am...

This sounds like a personal vendetta, so you really should start a different thread about it. If Ralph sees this, he'll shut doen an otherwise good thread where no one is arguing.

Crystaledwards, is an obsessive, rabid Diana Ross fan that Ralph recently banned from this site. There are about 5, maybe 6 guys like that here. But we don't to turn this into another "Dianah Ross" thread. These guy believe in free speech but only as long as you don't say anything unflattering about this particular singer.

Anyway, I heard that former Pres. Jimmy Carter has been allegedly advising Paula Deen during her public crisis.

[marv2]

And the blood-letting continues: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/28/paula-deens-upcoming-cookbook-cancelled/?hpt=hp_t1

Oh, and how could we forget about the food?: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/26/paula-deen-and-southern-food-critics-say-credit-is-past-due/?hpt=hp_t1

A WOW!!! Now that is a big one! "Paula Deen's upcoming cookbook canceled". She might as well move on , maybe to Mexico or somewhere. She is through here.

[Roberta75]

And the blood-letting continues: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/28/paula-deens-upcoming-cookbook-cancelled/?hpt=hp_t1

Oh, and how could we forget about the food?: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/26/paula-deen-and-southern-food-critics-say-credit-is-past-due/?hpt=hp_t1

Shes only got herself to blame. I knew this was the tip of the iceberg but as she said to matt Lauer "I is what i is" and you havent learned a thing Miss Paula Dean.

Roberta

[funky_fresh]

Funky, she's a FAMOUS cook who has/had lucrative deals with major companies! The is wealthy from being a COOK. So, yeah, it does matter what the says in public. It's why she is being punished now.

I kind of wonder why you seem to be sticking up for, or making excuses for her.

Jesse Jackson? He apologized. We haven't heard Louis Farrakkan apologize for his comments about the Jews' alleged "gutter religion".

My point that I have repeated ad nausem was simply that the focus on this subject as some earth shattering, major event was ridiculous - and that is still my stance. And why you think I could give a damn about Farrakkan is beyond me. Dumb bigots are dumb bigots, whether they look like Paula Deen or Rachel Jenteal! You seem to put the importance on the dollar they pull.

[soulster]

My point that I have repeated ad nausem was simply that the focus on this subject as some earth shattering, major event was ridiculous - and that is still my stance.
Your opinion seems to be out-numbered by a wide margin.

[Crystaledwards]

Crystaledwards, is an obsessive, rabid Diana Ross fan that Ralph recently banned from this site. There are about 5, maybe 6 guys like that here. But we don't to turn this into another "Dianah Ross" thread. These guy believe in free speech but only as long as you don't say anything unflattering about this particular singer.

Anyway, I heard that former Pres. Jimmy Carter has been allegedly advising Paula Deen during her public crisis.


I am not an obsessive Diana Ross fan marv. I am simply calling you out on your hypocrisy. You rally against Paula Deen for her hateful racism and believe me when I say Ms. Deen deserves every criticism that is hurled her way. However, your behavior at YouTube is no better that Paula Deen's behavior. People who express hostile attitudes toward homosexual persons often are prejudiced against other minorities as well. What other prejudices do you harbor marv? Does it make you feel macho when you berate and taunt Gay people marv? Do you have children? Do you have brothers and sisters with children? Someday a GLBT person could be your own blood relative. Think about that next time you cruelly and viciously call someone a fag, faggot or freak marv. Gay people live normal lives in everyday America, They serve in our country's military, they pay taxes, and they contribute to the nation's well being on various levels. Stop the hate marv or your words could end up really hurting someone.

[soulster]

Anyway children...Mrs. Deen has lost about 12 business partners and sponsors. I'm sure there are more to come. I really am starting to think this is becoming excessive. I think she has gotten the message that her behavior is wrong, and her beliefs need to be challenged if she plans to continue to do what she loves for a living.

The single most important thing she can do right now is listen to people who try to explain why her words and views are so repugnant in 2013, and she needs to be sensitized to how they hurt and insult. It's not working for her to live in that "southern bubble".

I disagree with the experts that she should let her fans rally support because many of them are the same fans that support her because of her revolting views.

The messages the media, and her former business partners have made their point. When people see that she really understands, and makes the effort to change, then people will once again feel good about her brand. Her sponsors and business partners will come back.

I guess this is a lesson for all of us. Be careful because our words and actions may come back to bite us. Like the police captain used to say on Hill Street Blues after the morning briefing: Let's be careful out there!

[soulster]

I believe there are other reasons TFN dropped her so quickly. She was reportedly a prima-donna at the network, and they were still stung by the revelation that she is diabetic, yet cooks up food that contributes to the problem. She, and her food, represent the area in the country with the highest incidence of heart disease, diabetes, and obesity. Butter, sugar, and animal fat. You know, I see [[usually middle-aged and older) people buying tons of butter and sugar when it's on sale at the grocery stores. I can't help but think they watch her show.

[Jerry Oz]

Sadly, she's going to be martyred by her fans, who will double down on their own hatred. One of them already tweeted disapproval of Wal-Mart for turning it's back on a fellow Southerner.

[soulster]

Miss Paula Dean can change Kenneth but she needs to start with the Lord and ask him to guide her every step of the way. Paula Dean knows better and her age is no excuse imo. For her to even think about having a plantation style wedding just like the old south is disgusting and she should no better and she need to have new people around her and act more humble. Im real happy shes going to meet with the Reverent Jackson but she needs to show action rather than hollow words. I did not see a humbled woman on Matt Laur the other day I see a woman scrambling to save her business and her tears were dry tears and her apology wasnt sincere.


[[Whew! I'm attempting to keep the topics in their appropriate places!)

Anyway, I agree 100%

[soulster]

A WOW!!! Now that is a big one! "Paula Deen's upcoming cookbook canceled". She might as well move on , maybe to Mexico or somewhere. She is through here.
No, she isn't done here.

Although I disagree with Jimmy Carter in his advice on handlinng the siuation, she needs to step away from the cameras and keyboard, learn about Black history and sensitivity to people different than herself, and make a sincere apology without the tears and shifting the blame.

I understand she already donates to good causes, to that's fine. She shouldn't stop that. And, it would really go a long way with many of her detractors if she gives credit to where a lot of the southern food she deals with really came from, and why. She could also come up with healthier, yet delicious ways of making some of those foods.

When she does these things, i'm sure most or all of those companies will come back, and she'll get a new cooking show.

No one is too old to change, and people can be forgiven. Remember This guy, Fmr. Gov. George Wallace?
6862

[marv2]

No, she isn't done here.

Although I disagree with Jimmy Carter in his advice on handlinng the siuation, she needs to step away from the cameras and keyboard, learn about Black history and sensitivity to people different than herself, and make a sincere apology without the tears and shifting the blame.

I understand she already donates to good causes, to that's fine. She shouldn't stop that. And, it would really go a long way with many of her detractors if she gives credit to where a lot of the southern food she deals with really came from, and why. She could also come up with healthier, yet delicious ways of making some of those foods.

When she does these things, i'm sure most or all of those companies will come back, and she'll get a new cooking show.

No one is too old to change, and people can be forgiven. Remember This guy, Fmr. Gov. George Wallace?
6862

I remember George Wallace. He change before he passed away. This woman seems to be apologetic because she is about to loose her livelyhood!

[soulster]

http://youtu.be/Q8-8tzxL1u0

[smark21]

Sadly, she's going to be martyred by her fans, who will double down on their own hatred. One of them already tweeted disapproval of Wal-Mart for turning it's back on a fellow Southerner.

Well hopefully Deen’s fans will also double down on eating Deen’s type of food and gorge themselves to early graves.

[Penny]

This has been an interesting thread. Full of all kinds of information.

Penny:cool:

[soulster]

More Paula Deen commentary:

http://thegrio.com/2013/06/26/is-paula-deens-n-word-use-a-southern-thing/

http://thegrio.com/2013/06/30/dear-paula-deen-having-black-friends-in-not-enough/

http://thegrio.com/2013/06/27/paula-deen-controversy-trayvon-martin-testimony-re-open-messy-n-word-debate/

[marv2]

More Paula Deen commentary:

http://thegrio.com/2013/06/26/is-paula-deens-n-word-use-a-southern-thing/

http://thegrio.com/2013/06/30/dear-paula-deen-having-black-friends-in-not-enough/

http://thegrio.com/2013/06/27/paula-deen-controversy-trayvon-martin-testimony-re-open-messy-n-word-debate/

Do you know if she has lost anymore sponsors or business deals since Walmart was announced?

[soulster]

Do you know if she has lost anymore sponsors or business deals since Walmart was announced?
I guess you haven't been keeping up. http://gma.yahoo.com/12-companies-cut-ties-paula-deen-000127246--abc-news-topstories.html

For a couple of days, several more companies dropped her in rapid succession. Even the book that is out now will stop being pressed, and the book that was supposed to come out in October, and has advance orders for, has been cancelled by the publisher who severed ties with her.

Even I gotta say this has been excessive. But, these companies do't want to be associated with someone as caustic as Deen right now. She may have supporters, but what does it say about those supporters? Are they racist? And, do their numbers compare to the numbers of offended people who would boycott them if they stayed with her? These days, being associated with people who obviously hold and announce racist attitudes is bad for business. We may have finally arrived at that point in history where some big business is finally rejecting racism. But, as long as we still have business that have institutionalized racism, the fight isn't over. Why, in 2013, are there still business that build on themes of slavery, like the one that impressed and inspired Deen so much? Why do we have businesses that won't let you in the door if you voted for Obama? Why do we have large companies that won't hire you unless you are a christian?

[marv2]

I guess you haven't been keeping up. http://gma.yahoo.com/12-companies-cut-ties-paula-deen-000127246--abc-news-topstories.html

For a couple of days, several more companies dropped her in rapid succession. Even the book that is out now will stop being pressed, and the book that was supposed to come out in October, and has advance orders for, has been cancelled by the publisher who severed ties with her.

Even I gotta say this has been excessive. But, these companies do't want to be associated with someone as caustic as Deen right now. She may have supporters, but what does it say about those supporters? Are they racist? And, do their numbers compare to the numbers of offended people who would boycott them if they stayed with her? These days, being associated with people who obviously hold and announce racist attitudes is bad for business. We may have finally arrived at that point in history where some big business is finally rejecting racism. But, as long as we still have business that have institutionalized racism, the fight isn't over. Why, in 2013, are there still business that build on themes of slavery, like the one that impressed and inspired Deen so much? Why do we have businesses that won't let you in the door if you voted for Obama? Why do we have large companies that won't hire you unless you are a christian?

I didn't realize she was that popular or that successful. WOW! This a very dramatic fall from grace some what.

Yes there are still a lot of companies that have institutionalized racism in them. I, at one time worked for a Fortune 100 corporation that had offices in Detroit. I was the only African American there. I was eventually told informally that the reason they had not ever hired any black professionals is that they could not find any qualified........IN ALL OF DETROIT METRO!!!!

I've heard this from other large corporations over the years. It is the official cop out when pressed for an answer!!!

[Jerry Oz]

Yeah, unless they get caught red-handed, it's hard to fix that one. They have found companies that had the person collecting applications put code words on the back of those that were submitted by black people, though. Just so they would know who not to call back.

[soulster]

Companies care only when it affects, or has the potential to affect their bottom line.

[Crystaledwards]

I didn't realize she was that popular or that successful. WOW! This a very dramatic fall from grace some what.

Yes there are still a lot of companies that have institutionalized racism in them. I, at one time worked for a Fortune 100 corporation that had offices in Detroit. I was the only African American there. I was eventually told informally that the reason they had not ever hired any black professionals is that they could not find any qualified........IN ALL OF DETROIT METRO!!!!

I've heard this from other large corporations over the years. It is the official cop out when pressed for an answer!!!

I am so sorry you were subjected to a Fortune 100 corporation's ignorant racism. I deplore racism and homophobia. I also have little time for organized religion. Most religions, to varying degrees,are corrupt and self-serving, and tend to discriminate against the GLBT community.


People are born into a race, they have no choice about the matter.People are born Gay or Lesbian, they also have no choice about the matter. You can't choose to abandon your race nor can you choose to be heterosexual. I will argue for as long as it takes against any and all racism, sexism, homophobia and anti-Semitism, and I do so in the name of equality for all. I will confront bigots face to face and I will call out the more cowardly ones that hide behind anonymity by way of a computer screen.


The person with the loudest, most inflammatory opinion gets the most attention. That's how the Internet works. For example on YouTube, when people say racist, sexist, anti-Semitic or homophobic things in the comments section, they start a whole firestorm that brings them the attention they desperately crave and don't get in their everyday lives. Social media also gives permission to be hateful and bigoted because usually no one knows who you are. Online, you can usually say whatever you want in a public forum without consequences. In real life, you can't do that.

In my humble opinion I have found the obsessive abuse of minorities, women and gays seems overwhelmingly to fall at the feet of the narrow-mined, self loathing and ill-educated.

[Roberta75]

I am so sorry you were subjected to a Fortune 100 corporation's ignorant racism. I deplore racism and homophobia. I also have little time for organized religion. Most religions, to varying degrees,are corrupt and self-serving, and tend to discriminate against the GLBT community.


That depend on what church you go to my dear so while I agreee with you on a lot of what you wrote I have to respectfully disagree with you about church and religions. My church welcome lesbian ladies and homosexual gentlemen in fact my pastor preaches that everyone regardkless of what color they are or who they sleep with is welcome in the house of the Lord and welcome to eat and drink at God's table during communion. Not all religions are predjuced.

Yours with every good wish.

Roberta