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JIVE FIVE Mary G.
05-16-2013, 03:00 PM
Hello Everyone,

I just had a lot of fun on Facebook with this question and the opposite one, which I will post a thread on next. I received hundreds of responses. I thought it would be fun to post the two questions here in separate threads.

What do you think is the worst song ever written??

For me it's "MacArthur Park", especially the more than 7 minute Richard Harris version. I know Donna Summer, Gloria Gaynor & The Four Tops did versions, too, and I can honestly say I hate all of them. It has to be one of the dumbest, non-sensical songs of all time. Ironically it's written by Jimmy Webb, a good songwriter, who wrote some great songs like "By The Time I Get To Phoenix". He gets a kick out of people trying to ascribe meaning to the lyrics of MP, because he says there is no meaning to the lyrics. lol

I look forward to your choices. :)

~~Mary~~

smark21
05-16-2013, 08:20 PM
Again there’s many. At the top of my head, “My Neck My Back [[Lick it)”. Need I say more?

smark21
05-16-2013, 08:25 PM
As for MacArthur Park, that second verse Webb wrote in which he dropped the “symbolism” and got into the heart of the matter, redeems the song.

There will be another song for me For I will sing it There will be another dream for me Someone will bring it I’ll will drink the wine while it is warm And never let you catch me looking at the sun And after all the loves of my life After all the loves of my life You'll still be the one


I will take my life into my hands and I will use it I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it I will have the things that I desire And my passion flow like rivers through the sky And after all the loves of my life After all the loves of my life I'll be thinking of you And wondering why

Soul Sister
05-16-2013, 08:32 PM
"Tip Toe Through The Tulips" ~ Tiny Tim ~ Just may be the WORST!!!


S.S.
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luke
05-16-2013, 10:52 PM
So if the song meant nothing why did Webb right it? Summers version is the bomb to dance to. Some of Air Supply's songs make me wretch.

robb_k
05-16-2013, 11:42 PM
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"Sail, Sail" by Solomon and The Muskets

daviddesper
05-17-2013, 12:18 AM
For me, there are about five songs that I consider so abominable that I will throw myself bodily across the room to turn off the radio any time they come on. One [[McArthur Park) has already been mentioned. The others, not necessarily in order of barfness, are:

American Pie
Hey Jude
A Whiter Shade of Pale
Hooked on a Feeling [[that ghastly Blue Swede version with the Oooga Chocka nonsense) I actually liked B J Thomas' original quite a bit)

robb_k
05-17-2013, 12:35 AM
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"Talk Talk" by The Music Machine, and just about any heavy metal. "Alley Oop". There are too many horrible songs.

Ngroove
05-17-2013, 12:59 AM
Madonna's "Live To Tell", "Like A Prayer", "Papa Don't Preach", "Justify My Love". Most other of her numbers, the more energetic-danceable it is, highly enjoyable fun. Gloria Estefan's "Coming Out of The Dark". Again, everything else of hers is mostly infectious Cuban-Miami-based pop and love ballads; personalness and deepness; no-no. All Britney Spears, 75% of Christina Aguilera, And, 95% of 21st century since.

soulster
05-17-2013, 01:08 AM
As for MacArthur Park, that second verse Webb wrote in which he dropped the “symbolism” and got into the heart of the matter, redeems the song.

There will be another song for me For I will sing it There will be another dream for me Someone will bring it I’ll will drink the wine while it is warm And never let you catch me looking at the sun And after all the loves of my life After all the loves of my life You'll still be the one


I will take my life into my hands and I will use it I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it I will have the things that I desire And my passion flow like rivers through the sky And after all the loves of my life After all the loves of my life I'll be thinking of you And wondering why
That was actually the bridge you're talking about, not the second verse. The second verse started "I recall the yellow cotton dress...". For me, I don't care about the lyrics. The music redeems the song, especially the fast part.

Anyway, my vote for the worst song ever is "I've Never Been To Me" by Charlene. Oh, I know you guys like it just because it was issued on Motown.

marv2
05-17-2013, 01:41 AM
"Put The Lime In The Coconut "- Harry Nilsson

Ngroove
05-17-2013, 01:59 AM
That was actually the bridge you're talking about, not the second verse. The second verse started "I recall the yellow cotton dress...". For me, I don't care about the lyrics. The music redeems the song, especially the fast part.

Anyway, my vote for the worst song ever is "I've Never Been To Me" by Charlene. Oh, I know you guys like it just because it was issued on Motown.

Am a BIG Motown freak, almost anything of company between 1959's Marv Johnson's "Come To Me" to Kem's "I Can't Stop Loving You", either 2003 or 2005; but Charlene, an exception; bores me to sleep. Tune on some Teena Marie for the extremely early eighties period listen ; picks me up back again.

psychedelic jacques
05-17-2013, 09:20 AM
'ebony and ivory' springs to mind first...

Jerry Oz
05-17-2013, 12:32 PM
The Eddie Murphy songbook should be enough to end this thread. "Party All The Time", "How Could It Be", "What's Up With You" [[feat. Michael Jackson), and the truly loathsome "Put Your Mouth On Me" are four of the worst five songs ever written and I cannot remember what the fifth one is.

144man
05-18-2013, 06:42 AM
Anyway, my vote for the worst song ever is "I've Never Been To Me" by Charlene. Oh, I know you guys like it just because it was issued on Motown.

But would you have said it was the worst song ever if it hadn't been on Motown?

My vote for the worst Motown record ever is "I Cried All Night" by Debbie Dean which I actually find painful to listen to.

The worst song ever has got to be Joe Dolce's "Shaddap You Face". It's not clever, it's not funny, and it's horribleness is compounded by the fact that it stopped Ultravox's "Vienna" getting to Number 1 in the UK.

Amithesameboy
05-18-2013, 10:34 AM
But would you have said it was the worst song ever if it hadn't been on Motown?

My vote for the worst Motown record ever is "I Cried All Night" by Debbie Dean which I actually find painful to listen to.

The worst song ever has got to be Joe Dolce's "Shaddap You Face". It's not clever, it's not funny, and it's horribleness is compounded by the fact that it stopped Ultravox's "Vienna" getting to Number 1 in the UK.


Bohemian rhapsody by Queen, but the competition is certainly fierce. What about all those absolutely ghastly " Disney " ballads, for example.

carole cucumber
05-18-2013, 11:00 AM
[QUOTE=luke;166440]So if the song meant nothing why did Webb right it?

From Songfacts:
With the famous "cake out in the rain," this is one of the more lyrically intriguing songs ever recorded. Jimmy Webb, who wrote the song, explained in Q magazine: "It's clearly about a love affair ending, and the person singing it is using the cake and the rain as a metaphor for that. OK, it may be far out there, and a bit incomprehensible, but I wrote the song at a time in the late 1960s when surrealistic lyrics were the order of the day."

The love affair Webb speaks of was with Susan Ronstadt, Linda Ronstadt's cousin. Said Webb [[in the Los Angeles Times), "MacArthur Park was where we met for lunch and paddleboat rides and feeding the ducks. She worked across the street at a life insurance company. Those lyrics were all very real to me; there was nothing psychedelic about it to me. The cake, it was an available object. It was what I saw in the park at the birthday parties. But people have very strong reactions to the song. There's been a lot of intellectual venom."

Are you convinced there's more to this song than Jimmy Webb is letting on? You might be right. The staff music composer Colin McCourt used to work for the publisher of this song, Edwin. H. Morris. The head of the company was a friend of Jimmy Webb, who once explained to him the song's meaning - cake in the rain and all. McCourt told The Daily Mail April 2, 2011: "Jim was in love with a girl who left him. Months later, he heard she was getting married - in the park. Broken-hearted, he went to the wedding and, not wanting to be seen, hid in a gardener's shed.

As the open-air ceremony was taking place it started to pour with rain and the rain running down the shed window made the cake look as if it was melting.

Interestingly, the man who married the girl was a phone engineer from Wichita - inspiration for another of Jim's hits [[http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=3894)?"

roger
05-18-2013, 11:12 AM
Bohemian rhapsody by Queen, but the competition is certainly fierce.

My vote would go to that one as well Amithesameboy .. I used to be unable to physically listen to it without turning off the radio or leaving the room. Imagine my horror when I went home to visit my parents only to find that my mother had bought a copy!! :mad:

If I was ever in a pub and it came on I used to use it as an opportunity to go to the toilet!! It was amazing how the "song" would stimulate my bladder!!

I've mellowed now and I am virtually immune to it but I still think it is a total pile of pretentious poo!!

Interesting to see "Hey Jude" get a mention .. I was never too keen on the version by THE BEATLES, much too dreary for me, but I did like this version by WILSON PICKETT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q2PATVyI

I was listening to an interview about Mr Pickett's version some weeks back and it was claimed that he thought the song was called "Hey Jew" .. it does sound like he does sing that a few times .. :)

Otherwise, for pure unadulterated over sentimental crud I don't think you can beat such travesties as "Excerpt From A Teenage Opera" by KEITH WEST ..

Looking through the Billboard charts I see that the folks of the U.S.A. weren't subjected to this one, in merry old England it got to the dizzy heights of #2 in late 1967. For those wishing to risk their musical integrity here it is on You-tube, complete with Mr West doing a less than totally convincing mime ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rExhxkX-Ic

Funnily I don't think that the remainder of the Teenage Opera was ever recorded ... phew!!

Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh on Mr West's over produced drivel, it was records like that that really turned me on to "Soul"!! ;)

Roger

Ngroove
05-18-2013, 12:21 PM
But would you have said it was the worst song ever if it hadn't been on Motown?

My vote for the worst Motown record ever is "I Cried All Night" by Debbie Dean which I actually find painful to listen to.

The worst song ever has got to be Joe Dolce's "Shaddap You Face". It's not clever, it's not funny, and it's horribleness is compounded by the fact that it stopped Ultravox's "Vienna" getting to Number 1 in the UK.

Worst Motown song [[written-lyrics-wise) I would say, Georgio's "Tina Cherry". Melody, beat, rhythm-wise, I love it, understand why it reached #1 Dance over two decades back. But the lyrics - MAN, the man's sure not subtle! By the "climax" hehehehe, my mouth dropped every time! Runner-Up, I would say, Rick James' "Love Gun". Again, love the arrangement, but although he's actually thinly concealing the lyrics [[it took me several months, before my brother told me what a "love gun" is, hahaha!), definitely a tune only to listen privately, don't think I can put a straight face if listened publicly.

tjl
05-18-2013, 01:17 PM
Laurelle - Lloyd Price, eek......

Ngroove
05-18-2013, 02:48 PM
Jimmy Soul - "If You Wanna Be Happy" - FUNNY song, but no way I'm marryin' an ugly, misshapen woman hahaha....

marv2
05-18-2013, 04:02 PM
Jimmy Soul - "If You Wanna Be Happy" - FUNNY song, but no way I'm marryin' an ugly, misshapen woman hahaha....

with witch of a "Mother-in-Law" by Ernie K Doe~ hehehehehehehehe............

smark21
05-18-2013, 04:27 PM
I'm still standing by "My Neck My Back Lick It". Here's the lyric video [[NSFW):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMZSzHJR24

smark21
05-18-2013, 05:13 PM
Another one: Friday by Rebecca Black.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPVTl9K0lqc

Roberta75
05-19-2013, 12:30 AM
Worst Motown song is Ive Never been to Me.

These lyrics are real, real corny and laughable. lolololol

Oh, I've been to Niece and the Isle of Greece while I've sipped champagne on a yacht
I've moved like Harlow in Monte Carlo and showed 'em what I've got
I've been undressed by kings and I've seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see
I've been to paradise, but I've never been to me

[spoken]
Hey, you know what paradise is?
It's a lie, a fantasy we create about people and places as we'd like them to be
But you know what truth is?
It's that little baby you're holding, it's that man you fought with this morning
The same one you're going to make love with tonight
That's truth, that's love......

Sometimes I've been to crying for unborn children that might have made me complete
But I took the sweet life, I never knew I'd be bitter from the sweet
I've spent my life exploring the subtle whoring that costs too much to be free
Hey lady......
I've been to paradise, [[I've been to paradise)
But I've never been to me

ollie
05-19-2013, 03:40 AM
Too many to name

mr soul
05-19-2013, 07:33 AM
Sugar Sugar - Archies

soulster
05-19-2013, 01:51 PM
But would you have said it was the worst song ever if it hadn't been on Motown?

Yes, indeed.

misty
05-19-2013, 04:38 PM
McArthur park gets my vote. Also I Shot The Sheriff. Hate it.

JimBagley
05-20-2013, 01:58 PM
McArthur park gets my vote. Also I Shot The Sheriff. Hate it.

You've all mentioned some dillies. My choice is "Muskrat Love".

144man
05-20-2013, 06:11 PM
Yes, indeed.

Have you heard the Temptations' original version of "I've Never Been to Me" or Nancy Wilson's cover? They make me realise it's not such a bad song after all. In fact, technically it's quite good. The lyrics are well written, they scan, and they tell the story of a life wasted. Also the melody is quite pretty.

The fact that it's the song that you hate the most does not automatically make it the worst song ever written. For instance, I can't stand Jimi Hendrix's style of guitar playing, but I can still acknowledge that he's a great guitarist.

chidrummer
05-21-2013, 12:29 AM
Afternoon Delight
Dancing Queen [[& almost anything else by ABBA)
American Pie
I Believe in Miracles
Girls on Film
Barbie Girl

soulster
05-21-2013, 01:09 AM
Have you heard the Temptations' original version of "I've Never Been to Me" or Nancy Wilson's cover? They make me realise it's not such a bad song after all. In fact, technically it's quite good. The lyrics are well written, they scan, and they tell the story of a life wasted. Also the melody is quite pretty. You will never convince me that the song is any good.


The fact that it's the song that you hate the most does not automatically make it the worst song ever written. You do realize that this forum is about opinions, right?

soulster
05-21-2013, 01:11 AM
Afternoon Delight
Dancing Queen [[& almost anything else by ABBA)
American Pie
I Believe in Miracles
Girls on Film
Barbie Girl And, see, I like all of these songs. I'm a big ABBA fan!

You guys are picking many of my favorites. And, I love Jimi Hendrix's style of playing. Further proof that I don't really fit here.

144man
05-21-2013, 07:37 AM
You will never convince me that the song is any good.

You do realize that this forum is about opinions, right?

Of course I realise this forum is about opinions. I just think that you've answered a question different to what the thread poses, namely what is the worst song written, which demands a certain amount of objectivity, not which is the song you dislike the most, which is completely subjective.

I think the topic demands some sort of criticism of the song in question. For instance, Roberta has picked the same song but commented that the lyrics are corny and laughable to justify her choice.

To be honest, soulster, while I don't dislike the song, I don't particularly like it either. I just think its choice is too easy and predictable.

You also say you don't really fit here. As far as I'm concerned it's the differences in opinions that gives the forum its vibrancy and makes it worthwhile.

Amithesameboy
05-21-2013, 03:00 PM
Of course I realise this forum is about opinions. I just think that you've answered a question different to what the thread poses, namely what is the worst song written, which demands a certain amount of objectivity, not which is the song you dislike the most, which is completely subjective.

I think the topic demands some sort of criticism of the song in question. For instance, Roberta has picked the same song but commented that the lyrics are corny and laughable to justify her choice.

To be honest, soulster, while I don't dislike the song, I don't particularly like it either. I just think its choice is too easy and predictable.

You also say you don't really fit here. As far as I'm concerned it's the differences in opinions that gives the forum its vibrancy and makes it worthwhile.

See, I dont understand that at all. How can one posit an "objective" view of a song ? EVERY opinion is subjective.

JIVE FIVE Mary G.
05-21-2013, 05:53 PM
Just a reminder, I said what do you THINK is the worst song ever written. That's asking for your opinions. Musical taste is subjective, like any other art form. I don't expect everyone to agree with my choice, nor do I expect to agree with everyone else's choices. That's what makes questions like this fun and interesting to me.:) I've enjoyed reading all the posts.

~~Mary~~

smark21
05-21-2013, 07:56 PM
Though some of the responses on this thread seem to confuse a bad song with a bad record. Sometimes it’s quite possible to make a bad recording of a good song. That might make a good thread of its own, lol.

soulster
05-21-2013, 09:34 PM
I just think that you've answered a question different to what the thread poses, namely what is the worst song written, which demands a certain amount of objectivity, not which is the song you dislike the most, which is completely subjective. When you ask someone what they think is the worst song, that implies that their response will be subjective. My response is within the intent and spirit of the thread. I hate the song, and think it is the worst, no matter who sings it, or how.


I think the topic demands some sort of criticism of the song in question. For instance, Roberta has picked the same song but commented that the lyrics are corny and laughable to justify her choice. And, this is one of those rare times that I agree with her. I think the song is an embarrassment for everyone who was involved with it. I'm embarrassed to even listen to it alone!


To be honest, soulster, while I don't dislike the song, I don't particularly like it either. I just think its choice is too easy and predictable. Well, I not only dislike it, I HATE it with a passion! If I could burn all copies of it I would. I wish I could burn the sheet music and the lyrics. I hope the multitrack, the two-track master tape, and all the copies of it, meet with a tragic fate! Whoever's idea it was to have Charlene do that gawd-awful talking part on the intro should be handcuffed, water-boarded naked, then hung upside down by the toes, with panckake syrup sprinkled all over, with fire ants and cockroaches crawling all over them, and have their privates seared with a red hot poker by drunk, violent bikers, all while having that song on endless repeat, blasted at 120 decibels.


You also say you don't really fit here. As far as I'm concerned it's the differences in opinions that gives the forum its vibrancy and makes it worthwhile.

Man, I seem to be against the grain wherever I go. Just the way it is. :D

heikki
05-22-2013, 06:29 AM
Hi Soulster!

Do I understand correctly that you don't like that song? :)

Best regards
Heikki

REDHOT
05-22-2013, 07:21 AM
Ring My Bell,Carzy 'bout That La La,these are 2 dum songs lol

Ngroove
05-22-2013, 03:26 PM
Have you heard the Temptations' original version of "I've Never Been to Me" or Nancy Wilson's cover? They make me realise it's not such a bad song after all. In fact, technically it's quite good. The lyrics are well written, they scan, and they tell the story of a life wasted. Also the melody is quite pretty.

The fact that it's the song that you hate the most does not automatically make it the worst song ever written. For instance, I can't stand Jimi Hendrix's style of guitar playing, but I can still acknowledge that he's a great guitarist.

I don't "hate" the song, there's probably worse, nor do I seem too excited in listening to it either - but it IS a Motown record of a different element - which could be in its taking risks in its controversial lyrics, bizarre, lower tempos, sleepier rhythm, not so energetic voice, too clearly crafted to sell out to the US / UK pop radios.....frankly, at least for that song, if it wasn't for having a Motown label on it, I would not even tell it's a Motown number.

144man
05-22-2013, 05:54 PM
When you ask someone what they think is the worst song, that implies that their response will be subjective. My response is within the intent and spirit of the thread. I hate the song, and think it is the worst, no matter who sings it, or how.

And, this is one of those rare times that I agree with her. I think the song is an embarrassment for everyone who was involved with it. I'm embarrassed to even listen to it alone!

Well, I not only dislike it, I HATE it with a passion! If I could burn all copies of it I would. I wish I could burn the sheet music and the lyrics. I hope the multitrack, the two-track master tape, and all the copies of it, meet with a tragic fate! Whoever's idea it was to have Charlene do that gawd-awful talking part on the intro should be handcuffed, water-boarded naked, then hung upside down by the toes, with panckake syrup sprinkled all over, with fire ants and cockroaches crawling all over them, and have their privates seared with a red hot poker by drunk, violent bikers, all while having that song on endless repeat, blasted at 120 decibels.





Great answers, soulster. Now I'm happy.

144man
05-22-2013, 06:01 PM
Man, I seem to be against the grain wherever I go. Just the way it is. :D

It's good to see things from a different perspective. Who wants to be a carbon copy of everyone else? I certainly don't.

144man
05-22-2013, 06:14 PM
See, I dont understand that at all. How can one posit an "objective" view of a song ? EVERY opinion is subjective.

I'm finding it difficult to express myself clearly here. Let's say that you can't stand poetry. Are you really going to say that every poem is rubbish? And even if you do, you're still going to be able to judge different poems' relative merits objectively by virtue of their metre, imagery and other qualities.

144man
05-22-2013, 06:24 PM
Though some of the responses on this thread seem to confuse a bad song with a bad record. Sometimes it’s quite possible to make a bad recording of a good song. That might make a good thread of its own, lol.

Exactly!!!

soulster
05-22-2013, 11:17 PM
Great answers, soulster. Now I'm happy.
The only excuse that I can come up with for the recording's existence is that everyone was on drugs.:)

soulster
05-22-2013, 11:22 PM
I'm finding it difficult to express myself clearly here. Let's say that you can't stand poetry. Are you really going to say that every poem is rubbish? But...we like music! :D

oldiesmusicfan
05-23-2013, 12:31 AM
My vote -

Mule Skinner Blues - The Fendermen [[especially at 1:45!!!!!!) It just sounds like someone's got a bad case of the crazies. Nice guitar work though. I can't believe this song got to #5 in 1960.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0NVxohHfRU

Oldies

soulster
05-23-2013, 01:48 AM
It's good to see things from a different perspective. Who wants to be a carbon copy of everyone else? I certainly don't.
Yes, but many people are not comfortable with those who stray too far from the tribal values.

What's funny is that it seems like the vast majority of people here don't much care for rock music. But, on the other forum I frequent, the majority don't really care for R&B. Both sides frown on too much mention of what they don't like, and expect you to march to their drum. Musical segregation sucks.

soulster
05-23-2013, 01:51 AM
My vote -

Mule Skinner Blues - The Fendermen [[especially at 1:45!!!!!!) It just sounds like someone's got a bad case of the crazies. Nice guitar work though. I can't believe this song got to #5 in 1960. To understand how it got to #5, one must understand the world in which it was produced.

144man
05-23-2013, 07:38 AM
Yes, but many people are not comfortable with those who stray too far from the tribal values.

What's funny is that it seems like the vast majority of people here don't much care for rock music. But, on the other forum I frequent, the majority don't really care for R&B. Both sides frown on too much mention of what they don't like, and expect you to march to their drum. Musical segregation sucks.

How strange. Most people I know have pretty varied tastes. Maybe people who post on specialist forums have to be protective of their music . I almost picked Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" as my worst song because I think it's just pretentious drivel, but there are plenty of other Queen songs [[Somebody to Love, Crazy Little Thing Called Love) that I do like.

There are a lot of songs from the 60s that I didn't like at the time, but when I hear them now, they sound good. I guess I just grew out of my narrow-mindedness.

soulster
05-23-2013, 09:47 AM
I almost picked Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" as my worst song because I think it's just pretentious drivel,
Would it help to know that they wrote the song in the studio on the spot, you know, made it up as they went along? They were just having fun. Kind of kills that charge of pretentiousness.

144man
05-23-2013, 10:03 AM
I don't see the conflict. Ostentation was part of Freddie Mercury's character. I have to admit that I love "Barcelona". That really comes off.

Amithesameboy
05-23-2013, 12:07 PM
How strange. Most people I know have pretty varied tastes. Maybe people who post on specialist forums have to be protective of their music . I almost picked Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" as my worst song because I think it's just pretentious drivel, but there are plenty of other Queen songs [[Somebody to Love, Crazy Little Thing Called Love) that I do like.

There are a lot of songs from the 60s that I didn't like at the time, but when I hear them now, they sound good. I guess I just grew out of my narrow-mindedness.

Im not sure I would call it narrow mindedness. If you dont like something you dont like it although I do understand that tastes can change over time. Having said that I vehemently hate every record Queen ever made and know that feeling will never change. On the other hand, I feel no need to defend my music - soul - from what others think. It always amuses me when people get upset - and they really do - because someone has the temerity to dislike a song on Youtube. Who cares what negative things other people say about songs one loves ?

timmyfunk
05-23-2013, 06:35 PM
Worst Motown song:
The Happening-The Supremes-totally wretched.

Worst song overall:
I'd Do Anything For Love [[But I Won't Do That)-Meatloaf

midnightman
05-24-2013, 12:14 PM
@soulster about musical apartheid: same can be said for some R&B lovers [[lurk on prince.org, you see how much love rock music gets over R&B, i.e., not much).

Anyways worst songs ever written include:
My Neck, My Back
Friday [[one of the worst ever lol)
Anything by Justin Bieber
I agree about "I Never Been to Me", Motown was going through a weird phase then
Anything by Adam Lambert
Sorry 2004 by Ruben Studdard
Janet Jackson's later recordings
Madonna's American Life
Anything from Mariah Carey's post 1997 recordings [[I like Beautiful with Miguel though)
Most of Lady Gaga's songs lol
Beyonce's "I Been On/Bow Down"
MacArthur Park I never cared for either
Claire by Gilbert O'Sullivan [[not only bad but creepy in a pedophiliac way)
ALL Pat Boone songs except the covers

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That's all I can think of atm. :)

midnightman
05-24-2013, 12:17 PM
Would it help to know that they wrote the song in the studio on the spot, you know, made it up as they went along? They were just having fun. Kind of kills that charge of pretentiousness.

That's what I would like to think. But Queen [[particularly FM) could be pretentious... that's why I couldn't get into Queen that much, no matter how hard I tried to. Another One Bites the Dust and We Will Rock You are the CUTS though!

paladin
05-24-2013, 01:05 PM
Tip Toe Through The Tulips" ~ Tiny Tim ~ Just may be the WORST!!!


S.S.
***

First song that came to my mind....yes !

144man
05-24-2013, 05:21 PM
@soulster about musical apartheid: same can be said for some R&B lovers [[lurk on prince.org, you see how much love rock music gets over R&B, i.e., not much).

Anyways worst songs ever written include:
My Neck, My Back
Friday [[one of the worst ever lol)
Anything by Justin Bieber
I agree about "I Never Been to Me", Motown was going through a weird phase then
Anything by Adam Lambert
Sorry 2004 by Ruben Studdard
Janet Jackson's later recordings
Madonna's American Life
Anything from Mariah Carey's post 1997 recordings [[I like Beautiful with Miguel though)
Most of Lady Gaga's songs lol
Beyonce's "I Been On/Bow Down"
MacArthur Park I never cared for either
Claire by Gilbert O'Sullivan [[not only bad but creepy in a pedophiliac way)
ALL Pat Boone songs lmao

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That's all I can think of atm. :)

I just don't get it. Are you really saying that Fats Domino's original version of Pat Boone's "Ain't That A Shame", for instance, is one of the worst songs ever written?

midnightman
05-24-2013, 10:01 PM
I just don't get it. Are you really saying that Fats Domino's original version of Pat Boone's "Ain't That A Shame", for instance, is one of the worst songs ever written?

Besides the cover versions. :) I should've said all of his songs that weren't covers of rock and roll hits lol

midnightman
05-24-2013, 10:03 PM
I'm sorry, I just don't associate Pat Boone with Ain't That a Shame and Tutti Frutti/Long Tall Sally so those songs are not his. :)

soulster
05-25-2013, 01:50 AM
@soulster about musical apartheid: same can be said for some R&B lovers [[lurk on prince.org, you see how much love rock music gets over R&B, i.e., not much).

I'll never understand how or why most people limit themselves to only one or two types of music. There is something good in everything. I do generally hate opera and reggae, but there are a few things I do like in those genres as well.


Anyways worst songs ever written include:
My Neck, My Back
I like x-rated stuff like that. I just think of that song [[and the male version of it) as a harmless joke.

Friday [[one of the worst ever lol)

People really hate the song. I don't see why. It's a parody, not to be taken seriously.


I agree about "I Never Been to Me", Motown was going through a weird phase then
The only thing Motown had going in 1981-1982 was Rick James, Jermaine Jackson, Stevie Wonder, and Dazz Band. Teena Marie was suing, they were trying to find ways to capitalize on Michael Jackson's back catalog, and DeBarge didn't yet become a hit machine. Solar Records was kicking Motown's butt. Maybe it was around the time Berry Gordy started thinking about getting out of the game. Who knows...


Janet Jackson's later recordings
"All For You" was the last listenable album she made.


Anything from Mariah Carey's post 1997 recordings [[I like Beautiful with Miguel though)

To hell with her artistic freedom. She made her best recordings at Columbia. Maybe she never should have married Tommy Mattola.


Most of Lady Gaga's songs lol
I like most of her hits, mostly from "The Fame Monster". "The Edge Of Glory" is good too.


MacArthur Park I never cared for either
I always liked it, but Richard Harris' singing is over the top.


Claire by Gilbert O'Sullivan [[not only bad but creepy in a pedophiliac way)
Haha! I like songs like that! But, it is about him babysitting his little niece. I'll bet he never thought about how creepy it sounded, though.


ALL Pat Boone songs except the covers After discovering he's a damn tea-bagging birther, I even got rid of that CD of metal covers. Too bad it was good.

midnightman
05-25-2013, 01:53 AM
^ You seriously bought that record? LOL

I think My Neck My Back is catchy. I doubt Khia was thinking about creating a masterpiece, she knows she's ratchet at least lol I like it too but it's argued it's a badly written song lmao

As for Gilbert, yeah but the lyrics still doesn't explain it lmao... I'm sure Gilbert is asked "what did you really MEAN?" Hahaha

soulster
05-25-2013, 01:56 AM
That's what I would like to think. But Queen [[particularly FM) could be pretentious... that's why I couldn't get into Queen that much, no matter how hard I tried to. Another One Bites the Dust and We Will Rock You are the CUTS though! But, it's a fact that's how the operatic part went down. They were all having a good time in the studio. There was no goal of trying to be pretentious.

I love bombastic music with drama, except for Meatloaf. That dude is just over the top. "Another One Bites The Dust" was a direct ripoff of Chic's "Good Times". Queen's bass player was in the studio when Bernard Edwards was doing that famous bass riff.

soulster
05-25-2013, 02:05 AM
^ You seriously bought that record? LOL The Pat Boone metal album? Yeah! It really is good stuff. Turns out 'ol white-bread likes Alice Cooper and Led Zepplin. If that album had been released today, I would never buy it. Asshole birther.


I think My Neck My Back is catchy. I doubt Khia was thinking about creating a masterpiece, she knows she's ratchet at least lol I like it too but it's argued it's a badly written song lmao But, I like some bad songs. That one isn't really bad, it's just stupid, in a fun way.


As for Gilbert, yeah but the lyrics still doesn't explain it lmao... I'm sure Gilbert is asked "what did you really MEAN?" Hahaha He's the same guy who wrote the song "Get Down" "You're a bad dog baby, but I still want you around!". LOL!

heikki
05-25-2013, 02:32 AM
Hi!

I have Tiny Tim's single "Tip Toe to the Gas Pumps." What a wonderful record!

Best regards
Heikki

roger
05-25-2013, 05:22 AM
Just a little note about "I've Never Been To Me" .. the song by CHARLENE was actually from 1977 .. it even crept into the Billboard Hot 100 when released that year on the [[Motown Distributed) Prodigal label. The 1982 Motown release was prompted by the song having become a popular spin on a number of late night radio shows.

As a song I think "I've Never Been to Me" is quite good [[I do find the version by CHARLENE to be a bit saccharine but have to confess that I did always give it the "benefit of the doubt" due to its Motown connection). It is a song that is trying to point out that people who constantly chase the "good life" aren't necessarily happy and at least I can understand the sentiment involved.

This does make me wonder about what is meant by a "song", are we talking about the lyrics, the melody? the arrangement? the performance?

If we are talking about silly lyrics I don't think you can beat "Pinball Wizard" by THE WHO .. what on earth would motivate someone to write a song about someone who is deaf, dumb and blind and yet has a natural talent playing pinball [[something that doesn't seem possible)is something I just don't understand. Yet there are elements of the music and performance that would prevent me from including it on any list of "worst song ever".

I've been amused by Soulster's spirited defence of "Bohemian Rhapsody". I'd heard that Mr Bulsara made it up on the spot and NO, it doesn't make me like the song any more, though it probably does explain why it sounds to me like such a disjointed mess. I also accept that they weren't attempting to be pretentious, but that is the whole point of pretentiousness, nobody TRIES to be pretentious, they just end up being so!! Perhaps it would have been better if they were just trying to have a joke by feigning pretentiousness as then people such as myself could criticise the whole thing without QUEEN fans getting all huffy!!

Interesting to see "Clair" by GIBERT O'SULLIVAN coming in for some flack .. perhaps those who find the song "disturbing" should give this one a listen ..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC3AphnJLbE

It reached #7 in the U.K. charts around Christmas 1974, as one side of a "Double A Sided" 45 .. funnily enough it never seems to get played on the radio nowadays .... :)

Roger

144man
05-25-2013, 06:36 AM
Goodies! Goodie-Goodie-Yum-Yum! :eek:

midnightman
05-25-2013, 11:50 AM
But, it's a fact that's how the operatic part went down. They were all having a good time in the studio. There was no goal of trying to be pretentious.

I love bombastic music with drama, except for Meatloaf. That dude is just over the top. "Another One Bites The Dust" was a direct ripoff of Chic's "Good Times". Queen's bass player was in the studio when Bernard Edwards was doing that famous bass riff.

Good point lol I did see a session Queen was in [[I think in the '80s), looked like they were having fun so maybe you're right.

soulster
05-25-2013, 01:18 PM
Just a little note about "I've Never Been To Me" .. the song by CHARLENE was actually from 1977 .. it even crept into the Billboard Hot 100 when released that year on the [[Motown Distributed) Prodigal label. The 1982 Motown release was prompted by the song having become a popular spin on a number of late night radio shows.
They were ALL on drugs!


As a song I think "I've Never Been to Me" is quite good [[I do find the version by CHARLENE to be a bit saccharine but have to confess that I did always give it the "benefit of the doubt" due to its Motown connection). It is a song that is trying to point out that people who constantly chase the "good life" aren't necessarily happy and at least I can understand the sentiment involved. I know what the song is about, but it's still bad.


This does make me wonder about what is meant by a "song", are we talking about the lyrics, the melody? the arrangement? the performance?
All of it. Terrible! I can just see some ditz swooning to it.


If we are talking about silly lyrics I don't think you can beat "Pinball Wizard" by THE WHO .. what on earth would motivate someone to write a song about someone who is deaf, dumb and blind and yet has a natural talent playing pinball [[something that doesn't seem possible)is something I just don't understand. Yet there are elements of the music and performance that would prevent me from including it on any list of "worst song ever". You never saw the film?


I've been amused by Soulster's spirited defence of "Bohemian Rhapsody". I'd heard that Mr Bulsara made it up on the spot and NO, it doesn't make me like the song any more, though it probably does explain why it sounds to me like such a disjointed mess. I also accept that they weren't attempting to be pretentious, but that is the whole point of pretentiousness, nobody TRIES to be pretentious, they just end up being so!! Perhaps it would have been better if they were just trying to have a joke by feigning pretentiousness as then people such as myself could criticise the whole thing without QUEEN fans getting all huffy!! The whole band made it up as they went along. Do you ever go to musicals? If you think about it in those terms, it makes more sense. The song is about a man on trial for killing a man. That middle part is the trial.


Interesting to see "Clair" by GIBERT O'SULLIVAN coming in for some flack .. perhaps those who find the song "disturbing" should give this one a listen ..
It's too stupid to take seriously.

robb_k
05-25-2013, 07:11 PM
Worst Motown song:
The Happening-The Supremes-totally wretched.

Worst song overall:
I'd Do Anything For Love [[But I Won't Do That)-Meatloaf
6721
I'll admit that that song is not good. But there are worse Motown releases.

"Randy The Newspaper Boy" by Ray Oddis comes to mind. And you can't claim seriously that "The Happening is worse than "Happy Ghoul Tide".

soulster
05-25-2013, 08:00 PM
I think "The Happening" is a great song and production. It isn't soul at all.

timmyfunk
05-26-2013, 05:41 PM
I couldn't disagree more. That was easily the most embarrassing attempt to maintain a crossover audience that has ever been made into a record. Only Dancing On The Ceiling could compare in terms of wretchedness. I cringe every time I hear that crap.

timmyfunk
05-26-2013, 05:43 PM
6721
I'll admit that that song is not good. But there are worse Motown releases.

"Randy The Newspaper Boy" by Ray Oddis comes to mind. And you can't claim seriously that "The Happening is worse than "Happy Ghoul Tide".

Maybe not. But in terms of hit singles, few compare that waste of wax.

marv2
05-26-2013, 05:58 PM
I couldn't disagree more. That was easily the most embarrassing attempt to maintain a crossover audience that has ever been made into a record. Only Dancing On The Ceiling could compare in terms of wretchedness. I cringe every time I hear that crap.

"Dancing On The Ceiling " gets my vote for worst Motown record if you call that "Motown" yuk~!

midnightman
05-26-2013, 07:25 PM
I think "The Happening" is a great song and production. It isn't soul at all.

It's a great pop record. I don't think it's bad either.

midnightman
05-26-2013, 07:28 PM
"Dancing On The Ceiling " gets my vote for worst Motown record if you call that "Motown" yuk~!

I don't think anyone will argue with you about that lmao

timmyfunk
05-26-2013, 08:20 PM
6721
I'll admit that that song is not good. But there are worse Motown releases.

"Randy The Newspaper Boy" by Ray Oddis comes to mind. And you can't claim seriously that "The Happening is worse than "Happy Ghoul Tide".

Yeah, but I'm going to assume that the song you speak of wasn't released as a single. You have to purchase the album that contains that particular song. The Happening was a huge hit. Unfortunately.

timmyfunk
05-26-2013, 08:22 PM
It's a great pop record. I don't think it's bad either.
That song [[and that's a generous description) is too painful to listen to sober. Unfortunately, I don't drink.

midnightman
05-26-2013, 09:08 PM
That song [[and that's a generous description) is too painful to listen to sober. Unfortunately, I don't drink.

LOL it's that bad for ya huh? :)

chidrummer
05-27-2013, 05:50 PM
Nah, the WORST Motown song ever is a tie between I Just Called to Say I Love You and Everybody Rejoice. EEEEEEYuk,

midnightman
05-27-2013, 07:26 PM
Nah, the WORST Motown song ever is a tie between I Just Called to Say I Love You and Everybody Rejoice. EEEEEEYuk,

EW... especially IJCTSILY... that was when Stevie jumped the shark imho...and never really recovered. :[[

soulster
05-27-2013, 08:01 PM
Nah, the WORST Motown song ever is a tie between I Just Called to Say I Love You and Everybody Rejoice. EEEEEEYuk, I never heard the latter, but I don't care how popular it was, that was one of Stevie Wonder's worst songs ever! The only things that saved the "Woman In Red" soundtrack album was "It's You" and "Love Light In Flight".

midnightman
05-27-2013, 08:20 PM
I never heard the latter, but I don't care how popular it was, that was one of Stevie Wonder's worst songs ever! The only things that saved the "Woman In Red" soundtrack album was "It's You" and "Love Light In Flight".

Shoot "Love Light in Flight" was way better than that junk... *sigh*

"Everybody Rejoice" was that song Diana, Michael and 'em sang near the ending of "The Wiz" [[before "Believe in Yourself" and "Home").

Kamasu_Jr
05-27-2013, 10:20 PM
My votes go to Afternoon Delight, Total Eclipse of the Heart, Endless Love, Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree, Me and You and A Dog Named Boo AND D-I-V-O-R-C-E. Oh yeah, that rap song by that Korean rapper SUCKS too.

soulster
05-27-2013, 11:45 PM
You're killin' me!

midnightman
05-28-2013, 11:42 AM
My votes go to Afternoon Delight, Total Eclipse of the Heart, Endless Love, Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree, Me and You and A Dog Named Boo AND D-I-V-O-R-C-E. Oh yeah, that rap song by that Korean rapper SUCKS too.

HAHAHA!!! You win all the internets. :) lol

timmyfunk
05-29-2013, 10:20 AM
LOL it's that bad for ya huh? :)

Damn straight. Makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.