Never saw this one before [[Mrs. Ross, Diana, Flo)

[floyjoy678]

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I never seen this photo before. I can make out Mrs. Ross, Diana and Florence. And then is that Obie from the Four Tops in the back? Anyone know who the other woman is?

[David J]

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I never seen this photo before. I can make out Mrs. Ross, Diana and Florence. And then is that Obie from the Four Tops in the back? Anyone know who the other woman is?

I have seen it before, I am sure that it was printed in either Diana's "Secrets of a Sparrow" autho-biography or in the "Call her Miss Ross book".

Haven't got any idea who the other woman is:confused:

[JohnnyB]

I have seen it before, I am sure that it was printed in either Diana's "Secrets of a Sparrow" autho-biography or in the "Call her Miss Ross book".

Haven't got any idea who the other woman is:confused:
I think the other lady is one of the Gordy sisters, but I am not sure.

An edited version of this photo appears in Diana's Missing You video; it is the final still picture in the video as a reference to her mother who had just passed away.

[theboyfromxtown]

L-R Ernestine, Diana, Florence, Obie, Gwen Gordy

[marv2]

L-R Ernestine, Diana, Florence, Obie, Gwen Gordy

Yes it was taken at the Greystone Ballroom in Detroit at the 1963 Motown Christmas Party.

[alexgarret]

That is an adorable pic of Flo. Diana's mother is 47 in this picture - Diana certainly resembles her as she aged. Beautiful women.

[marv2]

That is an adorable pic of Flo. Diana's mother is 47 in this picture - Diana certainly resembles her as she aged. Beautiful women.

This is also when Florence and Obie Benson were dating. I have and have seen other shots from this party.

[alexgarret]

I'd love to see some other shots from this. I guess Mrs. Ross traveled with them quite a bit - did she take the three of them under her wing? I guess that's why Diana has turned out to be such a great mother with having a roll model such as Ernestine.

[skooldem1]

Diana and her mother are beautiful women.

[alexgarret]

No surprise that Rhonda, Tracee and Chudney are gorgeous. I'd love to see some current pics of Flo's daughters - I'm sure that they are just as beautiful.

[marv2]

I'd love to see some other shots from this. I guess Mrs. Ross traveled with them quite a bit - did she take the three of them under her wing? I guess that's why Diana has turned out to be such a great mother with having a roll model such as Ernestine.

I wouldn't go patting Diana Ross on the back. Ernestine and the mothers of the other
Supremes did not have anywhere near the financial resources Diane did when she "raised" her children. They no doubt could not afford the private schools, nannies, limos etc,etc when they were raising their children.

Show me a single mother working two jobs, raising any number of kids and sends them to college, keeping them on the right path into adulthood and I will give her a standing ovation any day over diana ross' raising of kids.....GEEZ!

[alexgarret]

That's kind of bitter..Ernestine [[even without the "resources") did a great job with Diana. From what I have read all five of her kids are doing well. You want to begrudge her for that? It's not always about money, but about love - something apparently Ernestine taught Diana. We should all learn a lesson.

[marv2]

That's kind of bitter..Ernestine [[even without the "resources") did a great job with Diana. From what I have read all five of her kids are doing well. You want to begrudge her for that? It's not always about money, but about love - something apparently Ernestine taught Diana. We should all learn a lesson.

I don't care whatcha call it. I don't believe in giving pats on the back to anyone who has had an advantage.

[alexgarret]

Like Ernestine?

[marv2]

Like Ernestine?

Look don't be daff or feign ignorance. You know darn well you were praising Diane and her raising of five kids. Read back when I said: " Ernestine and the mothers of the other
Supremes did not have anywhere near the financial resources Diane did"

Now if you cannot understand what I wrote there in plain English, then you have a problem that I cannot help you with.

[alexgarret]

I don't need your help. I am curious as to what Diana did to you personally. From the thread on Eddie Unsung you were jumping up and down with joy about Eddie's wife's comments about Diana. Me and another person made the parallel of Mary [[who I love) and Tom Jones. And you shut up. They were young - we all had youthful indescrestions. Is this your reaction to all new members to this board?

[marv2]

I don't need your help. I am curious as to what Diana did to you personally. From the thread on Eddie Unsung you were jumping up and down with joy about Eddie's wife's comments about Diana. Me and another person made the parallel of Mary [[who I love) and Tom Jones. And you shut up. They were young - we all had youthful indescrestions. Is this your reaction to all new members to this board?

Man you can't shut me up! Who do you think you are? LOL! I don't know you.

[alexgarret]

Of course I don't know you and I'm not trying to shut you up but you didn't respond to questions on the Eddie thread. I'm asking for answers to my questions - peace out dude.

[marv2]

Of course I don't know you and I'm not trying to shut you up but you didn't respond to questions on the Eddie thread. I'm asking for answers to my questions - peace out dude.


I am not obligated to respond to anything on Soulful Detroit. Are you trying to pick a fight with me for some reason?

[alexgarret]

of course not - just asking a question - again - why so bitter?

[alexgarret]

Why the bashing of Diana and Eddie and giving a pass to Mary and Tom. I love them both and not judging but apparently you are. Simple question - why? I'm sure you've had alot of indescretions that you'd like to forget - who of us hasn't?

[marv2]

Why the bashing of Diana and Eddie and giving a pass to Mary and Tom. I love them both and not judging but apparently you are. Simple question - why? I'm sure you've had alot of indescretions that you'd like to forget - who of us hasn't?

Don't ask me, ask the producers of TV ONE's Unsung program why they included that in the show. You are now clearly trying to pick a fight with me and I do not like it!

[alexgarret]

You so cute

[I ♥ The Supremes and Temptations]

I love rare pics of the Supremes...looks like this picture was taken in 1964/1965

[luke]

You tell it Marv! Unreal. I dont find Diana girls gorgeous. Thye arer attractive in their own way,unique looking, but certainly not gorgeous IMO. Mrs Ross is often praised for being very fair vis a vis all the Supremes. One Supreme book had her speaking to Diana about the way she was treating Cindy and Mary and Diana admitted she was hard on them and displaced her frustration at Berry onto them.

[marv2]

I love rare pics of the Supremes...looks like this picture was taken in 1964/1965

It was taken in December of 1963. Just like Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons sang about in their 1975 hit . " Oh What A Night"! LOL!!!

[marv2]

You tell it Marv! Unreal. I dont find Diana girls gorgeous. Thye arer attractive in their own way,unique looking, but certainly not gorgeous IMO. Mrs Ross is often praised for being very fair vis a vis all the Supremes. One Supreme book had her speaking to Diana about the way she was treating Cindy and Mary and Diana admitted she was hard on them and displaced her frustration at Berry onto them.

Totally unreal, because I have never heard many guys call them gorgeous. Yes, yes it is well known that Diane rebelled often against Miss. Ernestine. You just have to tell the truth.....

[luke]

y so bitter alex?Dont try to create problems here--doesnt work anymore. easy come easy go.

[marv2]

y so bitter alex?Dont try to create problems here--doesnt work anymore. easy come easy go.

Yeah, I don't know where this guy comes from with all of this bitter talk. We were merely having a discussion here on a discussion board and he goes off like he knows me or can see me! hehehehehehehehe........

[alexgarret]

I really don't care to see you - just curious about answers to questions. You refusal speaks volumes - you and Luke go have your fun...[[he he he)

[marv2]

I really don't care to see you - just curious about answers to questions. You refusal speaks volumes - you and Luke go have your fun...[[he he he)

Look! Curiosity killed the cat.......or haven't your heard? LOL! Now go on and stop trying to pick fights in the name of Dianah Ross. LOL!!!!

[alexgarret]

So you don't answer the questions - you sweetheart

[alexgarret]

Spelling is not your strong suit

[floyjoy678]

It was taken in December of 1963. Just like Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons sang about in their 1975 hit . " Oh What A Night"! LOL!!!


Even before all the fame and number one hits they still looked like elegant superstars. The three of them [[Diana, Mary, Florence) sure knew how to present themselves. I wonder if Berry bought them those dresses? Florence said that he bought her some outfits in the early days whenever he saw something he thought "would look good on her" lol.

[skooldem1]

So this is where we are at? Insinuating that someone's children aren't attractive? How childish.

[marv2]

Even before all the fame and number one hits they still looked like elegant superstars. The three of them [[Diana, Mary, Florence) sure knew how to present themselves.

FloyJoy exactly! I've seen pictures of them from 1961, 62 and they were dressed like early 1960's fashion models! Taking it a step further, dressing nicely has long been a part of the Detroit culture for lack of a better word. Folks always at least tried to dress as sharp as possible when going out anywhere socially or to church there.The guys and the ladies put a lot of effort in their appearances.

[marv2]

So this is where we are at? Insinuating that someone's children aren't attractive? How childish.

There are degrees of attractiveness; it is all a matter of taste. What may look good to you, may not look good to me . I forget who brought the subject up ,but I remember someone using the term "gorgeous"! LOL!!!!

[skooldem1]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What is the old saying? If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.

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[skooldem1]

Here is Mary's daughter.

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[alexgarret]

All beautiful children of beautiful ladies - too bad for ugle posters... [[you know who)

[Roberta75]

You tell it Marv! Unreal. I dont find Diana girls gorgeous. Thye arer attractive in their own way,unique looking, but certainly not gorgeous IMO.

LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpm2VjT05fo

[marv2]

It sure is in the eyes of the beholder and I have perfect 20/20 here.....

[skooldem1]

This is suppose to be Florence's daughters. Don't know for certain.

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[marv2]

Here is Mary's daughter.

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Kessa! Hey! I didn't realize she was related to Diane and Ernestine....wow! LOL!!!

[Roberta75]

Here is Mary's daughter.

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Turkassa Ferrer would make a great plus size model. Shes gorgeous but then again so is her mom.

Thanks for the photo skooldem1

Fondly,

Roberta

[jobeterob]

Subtle subtle Skool. Excellent. And I gather our next step is "they don't have the advantages Diane had, having to borrow money from her and all".

Marv, do you begrudge every African American that was successful? That is belittling to you. You should be celebrating the success of all of them. That is way too bitter. Silly and unbecoming.

[Roberta75]

This is suppose to be Florence's daughters. Don't know for certain.

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Yes those ladies are Flos girls the one in the brown boots look just like Florence. My cousin from Highland Park in Detroit met them at a Diane Ross concert at the Opera house a few years back and said they were real nice ladies.

Roberta

[alexgarret]

It sure in the eyes of the beholder and I have perfect 20/20 here.....
She is gorgeous isn't she? So glad you agree.

[marv2]

She is a talented comedian........

[Roberta75]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What is the old saying? If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.

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Diane Ross has gorgeous daughters and real handsome sons.

Thank you for the photos skooldem1

Yours, with every good wish.

Roberta

[alexgarret]

She is a talented comedian........
And we've all seen pics of you - bless your heart.

[jobeterob]

Did you know the show "Land of the Giants" Marv? !

[jobeterob]

Most exciting and popular thread in years. Welcome Alexgarret. Please stay with us. We love you already.

What is this thread called? Ah, beat up Marv in every way possible.

I had no idea what Mary's daughter looked like. I'm sure she's a nice girl.

[marv2]

Yep! A real stunner........

[marv2]

Subtle subtle Skool. Excellent. And I gather our next step is "they don't have the advantages Diane had, having to borrow money from her and all".

Marv, do you begrudge every African American that was successful? That is belittling to you. You should be celebrating the success of all of them. That is way too bitter. Silly and unbecoming.

Go on and back to sleep! You have lost your talents for insults LOL! Like you care about African Americans when you were the main person defending Just7numbers on here few years ago..........

[marv2]

Diane Ross has gorgeous daughters and real handsome sons.

Thank you for the photos skooldem1

Yours, with every good wish.

Roberta

Roberta? LOL!!!!@!! stop please....LOL!!!!

[jobeterob]

This was a blast guys. I enjoyed this one a lot.

Strange what stories those pictures tell. Well done skool.

[alexgarret]

All beautiful ladies - they have done their momma's proud.........

[alexgarret]

Most exciting and popular thread in years. Welcome Alexgarret. Please stay with us. We love you already.

What is this thread called? Ah, beat up Marv in every way possible.

I had no idea what Mary's daughter looked like. I'm sure she's a nice girl.
Thank you Jobetrob - this site has certainly been a wake up call for me. Is Marv the normal "supreme fan"?

[marv2]

Simply dazzling...........

[alexgarret]

And please call me Alex

[alexgarret]

[QUOTE=marv2;150885]Simply dazzling...........[/QUOTE

OMG - she is - thank you for posting this.

[alexgarret]

[QUOTE=marv2;150885]Simply dazzling...........[/QUOTE

OMG - she is - thank you for posting this.
I apologize for having the wrong impression of you - I see that you are a fan of the Diva - thank you.

[marv2]

and my final, parting shot.........hehehehehe......!

[alexgarret]

Again - a gorgeous pic. Thank you. Anybody with internet savvy has seen the pic of you and Mary - good for you Large Marge.

[skooldem1]

Because someone said they think Diana's daughters are attractive you have to post what you think are unflattering pictures to take a shot? How old are you? You act very immature.

[alexgarret]

They are stunningly beautiful - can we say the same for large marge?

[alexgarret]

and my final, parting shot.........hehehehehe......!

What a beauty!
Thanks large marge

[midnightman]

Diana definitely looks like her mama as she ages. Florence looks cute there. Gwen was always the elegant Gordy [[Anna was sexier). Poor Obie lol

[westgrandboulevard]

I'm enjoying the pics and the banter here, but can someone please explain just who is 'Large Marge' - and the exact reasons for using that name....LOL :)

[smark21]

This is turning into one of the most pathetic threads in the history of the forum .

[midnightman]

This is turning into one of the most pathetic threads in the history of the forum .

I agree. Very pathetic.

[jobeterob]

There is a salacious desire for the "Large Marge" picture.

[Glenpwood]

Any poster who feels the need to critique the looks of the children of a Supreme needs to put their own children pics online or their own head shot and let the group critique them in the same way and see how it feels. There is no humor in bullying when people kill themselves daily due to a lack of self esteem or acceptance over their appearance. There's plenty of other topics related to Motown that can be picked apart without having to resort to this.

[Methuselah2]

At the Oscars in 1973:

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/B0/7820A1EACAE06EF457831F4C0AC25_h400_w320_m2_bblack_ q99_p99_cyvwKRgow.jpg

Flanked by her beautiful parents and handsome husband at the time, Robert Silberstein. And Ross looking gorgeous. That amazing smile of hers. Looking so happy. In that sensational silver tuxedo she wore. And later changed out of, too--during the show! Wonder if that was a first at the event.

[alexgarret]

It's hard to believe that was 40 years ago - she certainly had the world at her feet. She really looked disappointed when Liza's name was called out. I loved both performances, but overall Liza probably did deserve to win.

[Roberta75]

Any poster who feels the need to critique the looks of the children of a Supreme needs to put their own children pics online or their own head shot and let the group critique them in the same way and see how it feels. There is no humor in bullying when people kill themselves daily due to a lack of self esteem or acceptance over their appearance. There's plenty of other topics related to Motown that can be picked apart without having to resort to this.

Preach my dear Glenpwood preach. You speak the truth.

Fondly,

Roberta

[randy_russi]

The photo appeared in Randy T's first book on Diana Ross.

[westgrandboulevard]

Had Maxine Powell joined Motown when the first photo on this thread was taken?

If she had not, then Diana and Florence already had a sure sense of style.....

[alexgarret]

This is turning into one of the most pathetic threads in the history of the forum .
I agree - I apologize for any of my negative contributions to this thread - I'm just so proud to see the kids of any celebreties doing so well and when I see others shooting them down, I let the best of me become the worst. Please accept my apologies. Peace.

[alexgarret]

Had Maxine Powell joined Motown when the first photo on this thread was taken?

If she had not, then Diana and Florence already had a sure sense of style.....
Whether or not she was there - that is the BEST PIC i've seen of FLo - gotta love her

[blueskies]

Has anyone ever seen a pic of Cindy's son or know anything about him?

[captainjames]

Yes, I have a pic of Cindy and her son. I will have to dig it up. The only children I have not seen are those of Jean Terrell.


Has anyone ever seen a pic of Cindy's son or know anything about him?

[reese]

Has anyone ever seen a pic of Cindy's son or know anything about him?

When Cindy's divorce was announced, JET magazine ran a small story and included a photo of Cindy and her son.

[captainjames]

This is Cindy and her son I believe
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[midnightman]

Had Maxine Powell joined Motown when the first photo on this thread was taken?

If she had not, then Diana and Florence already had a sure sense of style.....

Not too sure. When did Maxine join? 1965?

[carole cucumber]

Not too sure. When did Maxine join? 1965?

Maxine Powell:
"Well what happened… was that before I went into Motown when Barry wrote a song called, "Lonely Teardrops" and Jackie Wilson was the artist. And they showcased him in my downstairs ballroom as a fundraiser for George Edwards' campaign. So any time they had an artist after they got going before I went to Motown, they would have me come and watch the artist perform and then tell them what the artist needed. So when I did join the company in 1964 they asked me to open up a finishing school there - so I did. I opened in 1964 a finishing school, Motown Finishing School, and I worked with the artists on, first thing we worked with was - who are you? And, what makes you tick? I don't teach singing. So I also told the artists that, ah, they would, this department would groom and polish them so that they could appear in number one places around the country and even before the king and queen. Of course the youngsters, you know they came from humble beginning and some were rude and crude from the street and the projects. But with me, it isn't where you come from is where you're going. So I told them where they would be appearing. And they laughed and said that I was out of my mind because all they wanted was a hit record. And this is what we did, we worked with developing class."

[jobeterob]

Sounds like Mrs. Powell. Thanks for that Carole. Your posts are always informative.

[diktatorship]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What is the old saying? If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.

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Well put. Marv2 may want to consider this before wading into every single Diana Ross thread on this forum.

[Rosa Refried]

They are stunningly beautiful - can we say the same for large marge?6311

Tell 'em Large Marge sent ya!

[midnightman]

Maxine Powell:
"Well what happened… was that before I went into Motown when Barry wrote a song called, "Lonely Teardrops" and Jackie Wilson was the artist. And they showcased him in my downstairs ballroom as a fundraiser for George Edwards' campaign. So any time they had an artist after they got going before I went to Motown, they would have me come and watch the artist perform and then tell them what the artist needed. So when I did join the company in 1964 they asked me to open up a finishing school there - so I did. I opened in 1964 a finishing school, Motown Finishing School, and I worked with the artists on, first thing we worked with was - who are you? And, what makes you tick? I don't teach singing. So I also told the artists that, ah, they would, this department would groom and polish them so that they could appear in number one places around the country and even before the king and queen. Of course the youngsters, you know they came from humble beginning and some were rude and crude from the street and the projects. But with me, it isn't where you come from is where you're going. So I told them where they would be appearing. And they laughed and said that I was out of my mind because all they wanted was a hit record. And this is what we did, we worked with developing class."

Ah! That's right. '64! Thanks Carole.

[randy_russi]

I think this photo was in Randy T's first book on Diana Ross.

[Methuselah2]

I've always liked Maxine Powell and what she did at Motown. But we part ways when it comes to what 'class' is. I don't think it has anything to do with how you present yourself. It's how you yourself are, how you think, what's important to you, and how you treat others. I don't think it's something that can be taught. But it can be developed through experience. Show me someone who's sloppy and rough around all the edges and not formally educated but is genuinely kind and considerate toward others--and I'll see nothing but class.

[nomis]

the picture of the ladies at the Greystone Ballroom was first published Taborelli's 1985 book on Diana...

[alexgarret]

Still the most incredible picture I've seen of Flo...absolutely beautiful.

[simplysupreme]

I dont find Diana girls gorgeous. Thye arer attractive in their own way,unique looking, but certainly not gorgeous IMO.

Show us what "gorgeous" is. Post a pic of yourself! ;)

[Methuselah2]

I was never keen on Diana's recording of MORE TODAY THAN YESTERDAY. Until now.

A YouTube poster named Tommy Lee has taken it and completely turned it around for me with a terrific video that he created. And I think it's terrific for the simple reason that he somehow knew exactly what to do with it--he knew exactly what it needed.

Since "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder," I'll just say: "Behold":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8M08gRAggQ&feature=endscreen

[jobeterob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8M08gRAggQ&feature=endscreen

Yes, that is a great video.

[alexgarret]

Really cool family pics - her greatest accomplishment - nothing else matters.

[David J]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8M08gRAggQ&feature=endscreen

Yes, that is a great video.

Really great video of Ms Ross and her kids, thanks so much for posting:D

[warehserat2911]

Love it!!!

[jobeterob]

So who was Large Marge in the end?

[TheMotownManiac]

A lot of rich celebrities have kids with lots of issues - including Motown parents with kids in jail, on welfare or living unproductive lives. money IS an advantage but being raised by a celebrity is NOT. Ask Ryan O'Neil or Bing Crosby or many, many others. Ross was a working single mother for many years but what she taught her children no nannie can teach - to go for your dreams and to love and appreciate who and what you are. 5 unusually looking kids with 3 dads from 3 totally different cultures and they are all on point, make their own way and love each other fiercely. I commend ANY parent who raises ANY child successfully. You must not have kids to make such an ignorant and arrogant statement. Money is a great help to fend off starvation and the bill collectors but character, self assurance, dignity, personal responsibility are all taught. She didn't raise an internet stalker obsessed with a celebrity who spends HOURS every week stalking the web path of a celecrity they don't know and lying about them. She's better than that kind of parent at least.
I wouldn't go patting Diana Ross on the back. Ernestine and the mothers of the other
Supremes did not have anywhere near the financial resources Diane did when she "raised" her children. They no doubt could not afford the private schools, nannies, limos etc,etc when they were raising their children.

Show me a single mother working two jobs, raising any number of kids and sends them to college, keeping them on the right path into adulthood and I will give her a standing ovation any day over diana ross' raising of kids.....GEEZ!

[RossHolloway]

A lot of rich celebrities have kids with lots of issues - including Motown parents with kids in jail, on welfare or living unproductive lives. money IS an advantage but being raised by a celebrity is NOT. Ask Ryan O'Neil or Bing Crosby or many, many others. Ross was a working single mother for many years but what she taught her children no nannie can teach - to go for your dreams and to love and appreciate who and what you are. 5 unusually looking kids with 3 dads from 3 totally different cultures and they are all on point, make their own way and love each other fiercely. I commend ANY parent who raises ANY child successfully. You must not have kids to make such an ignorant and arrogant statement. Money is a great help to fend off starvation and the bill collectors but character, self assurance, dignity, personal responsibility are all taught. She didn't raise an internet stalker obsessed with a celebrity who spends HOURS every week stalking the web path of a celecrity they don't know and lying about them. She's better than that kind of parent at least.


Ouch!! But point well taken.

[TheMotownManiac]

Thanks a lot!

[emily]

Does anyone know where I can find this photo? Or Who the photographer or copyright holder is?


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I never seen this photo before. I can make out Mrs. Ross, Diana and Florence. And then is that Obie from the Four Tops in the back? Anyone know who the other woman is?

[rovereab]

I agree. Very pathetic.

I have never commented on some of the other similar threads but this thread is totally distasteful and disrespectful. The picture in the initial post is stunning in the most positive way to say the least.

[blackguy69]

I have never commented on some of the other similar threads but this thread is totally distasteful and disrespectful. The picture in the initial post is stunning in the most positive way to say the least.
You do realize this thread is 4 years old