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jobeterob
09-05-2012, 11:12 PM
According to Fred Bronson's Hottest Hot 100 Hits

1. I Want to Hold Your Hand - Beatles
2. She Loves You - Beatles
3. Where Did Our Love Go - Supremes
4. There! I've Said it Again - Bobby Vinton
5. Baby Love - Supremes
6. Can't Buy Me Love - Beatles
7. Hello Dolly - Louis Armstrong
8. Come See About Me - Supremes
9. I Get Around - Beach Boys
10. I Feel Fine - Beatles

Other Top 10 Motown

17. My Guy - Mary Wells
27. Dancing in the Street - Martha and the Vandellas
66. Baby I Need Your Lovin - Four Tops
92. The Way You Do The Things You Do - Temptations
100. Quicksand - Martha and the Vandellas

Ngroove
09-05-2012, 11:43 PM
According to Fred Bronson's Hottest Hot 100 Hits

Other Top 10 Motown

66. Baby I Need Your Lovin - Four Tops


An all-time slice of pop-culture americana, true, should have been a top ten, and a lot more timeless-sounding than many top tens of the peroid also, BUT, according to my Four Tops Ultimate Collection, it peaked at #11.

marv2
09-06-2012, 02:24 AM
An all-time slice of pop-culture americana, true, should have been a top ten, and a lot more timeless-sounding than many top tens of the peroid also, BUT, according to my Four Tops Ultimate Collection, it peaked at #11.

"Baby I Need Your Loving" by the Four Tops should have been number one for the year of 1964 in my opinion.

johnjeb
09-06-2012, 10:55 PM
According to Fred Bronson's Hottest Hot 100 Hits

1. I Want to Hold Your Hand - Beatles
2. She Loves You - Beatles
3. Where Did Our Love Go - Supremes
4. There! I've Said it Again - Bobby Vinton
5. Baby Love - Supremes
6. Can't Buy Me Love - Beatles
7. Hello Dolly - Louis Armstrong
8. Come See About Me - Supremes
9. I Get Around - Beach Boys
10. I Feel Fine - Beatles

Other Top 10 Motown

17. My Guy - Mary Wells
27. Dancing in the Street - Martha and the Vandellas
66. Baby I Need Your Lovin - Four Tops
92. The Way You Do The Things You Do - Temptations
100. Quicksand - Martha and the Vandellas

Interesting, but I have two different Top Ten lists from the same years and allegedly from the same sources.

Fred Bronson's 1991 book "Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits" Top 100 songs from 1964. He assigns points to each week at peak position such as 100 points at #1, 99 points at #2 etc. So a song/record may be higher on this list due to the total # weeks charted rather than just highest position.

1. I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles
2. Hello Dolly - Louis Armstrong
3. Oh! Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison
4. She Loves You - The Beatles
5. I Get Around - The Beach Boys
6. My Guy - Mary Wells
7. There! I've Said It Again - Bobby Vinton
8. Baby Love - The Supremes
9. Come See About Me - The Supremes
10. A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles

13. Where Did Our Love Go - The Supremes
33. Dancing In The Street - Martha & The Vandellas
62. Baby I Need Your Loving - The Four Tops
92. The Way You Do The Things You Do - The Temptations
100. Quicksand - Martha & The Vandellas

Also compiled from Billboard's charts is "Joel Whitburn's Pop Annual 1955-1982" from 1983. This list compiles the peak position, number of weeks at peak and then number of weeks charted, then alphabetical for similar results.

1964 [[Peak Position - # weeks at peak - # weeks charted)
1. I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles 1-7-15
2. Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 1-5-10
3. Baby Love - The Supremes 1-4-13
4. There! I've Said It Again - Bobby Vinton 1-4-13
5. Oh! Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison 1-3-15
6. Chapel Of Love - The Dixie Cups 1-3-13
7. The House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals 1-3-11
8. I Feel Fine - The Beatles 1-3-11
9. I Get Around - The Beach Boys 1-2-15
10. She Loves You - The Beatles 1-2-15

11. My Guy - Mary Wells 1-2-15
12. Where Did Our Love Go - The Supremes 1-2-14
13. Come See About Me - The Supremes 1-2-14
14. A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles 1-2-13
15. Do Wah Diddy Diddy - Manfred Mann 1-2-13
16. Rag Doll - The Four Seasons 1-2-12
17. Hello Dolly! - Louis Armstrong 1-1-22
18. Everybody Loves Somebody - Dean Martin 1-1-15
19. Mr. Lonely - Bobby Vinton 1-1-15
20. Love Me Do - The Beatles 1-1-14
21. Ringo - Lorne Greene 1-1-12
22. A World Without Love - Peter & Gordon 1-1-12
23. Leader Of The Pack - The Shangri-Las 1-1-12

26. Dancing In The Street - Martha & The Vandellas 2-2-14
85. Quicksand - Martha & The Vandellas 8-1-12
111. Baby I Need Your Loving - The Four Tops 11-1-12
130. Every Little Bit Hurts - Brenda Holloway 13-2-10
143 You're A Wonderful One - Marvin Gaye 15-2-10
167. What's The Matter With You Baby - Marvin Gaye & Mary Wells 17-1-10
172. Once Upon A Time - Marvin Gaye & Mary Wells 19-3-9
191. ...Lovelight... - The Supremes 23-1-11
219. Girl [[why You Wanna Make Me Blue) - The Temptations 26-1-8
225. Baby Don't You Do It - Marvin Gaye 27-1-9
226. I Like It Like That - The Miracles 27-1-9
233. What's Easy For Two Is Hard For One - Mary Wells 29-1-17
255. I'll Be In Trouble - The Temptations 33-1-9
269. I Gotta Dance To Keep From Crying - The Miracles 35-1-10
277. That's What Love Is made Of - The Miracles 35-1-6
312. Can You Do It - The Contours 41-1-6
317. Live Wire - Martha & The Vandellas 42-1-7
328. Without The One You Love - The Four Tops 43-1-5
330. In My Lonely Room - Martha & The Vandellas 44-2-6
339. Needle In A Haystack - The Velvelettes 45-1-8
382. Castles In The Sand - Stevie Wonder 52-1-9
398. Just Ain't Enough Love - Eddie Holland 54-1-7
401. He's A Good Guy [[Yes He Is) - The Marvelettes 55-1-7
426. [[You Can't Let The Boy Overpower) The Man In You - Miracles 59-1-5
427. I'll Always Love You - Brenda Holloway 60-2-5
433. What Good Am I Without You - Marvin Gaye & Mary Wells 61-1-6
520. Leaving Here - Eddie Holland 76-1-5
639. Run, Run, Run - The Supremes 93-1-2

So, in comparing the lists Hello Dolly is # 2 on Fred Bronson's list because it was given points per weeks and positions totaled. On Joel Whitburn's list it was #17 because it only had 1 week at #1 but was 22 weeks on chart, therefore topping 6 other songs that also reached #1 for one week but had fewer weeks on the chart. And behind those songs that had more weeks at #1 but possibly fewer weeks on the chart.

Sources cited in text. All errors mine.

jobeterob
09-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Yes, I have a couple of books from the same source and I've noticed the same thing.........somewhat different.

Maybe the idea was to sell a few more books so they changed the methodology??

Kamasu_Jr
09-15-2012, 10:42 AM
Hey, 1964 was a pretty interesting year in music. Amazing that Louis Armstrong scored a No. 1 pop hit in the midst of Beatlemania. I'm collecting soul and pop albums released in that particular year.

marv2
09-15-2012, 12:04 PM
It was also an interesting year in that Billboard suspended it's R&B/Soul Charts for that year.

Motown4Ever518
09-15-2012, 04:21 PM
Putting myself back to 1964 in looking at the lists, besides the Beatles coming in and leading the whole British Invasion, what an amazing statistic that so many originated on West Grand Blvd.

jobeterob
10-21-2012, 08:44 PM
Billboard's Top 10 of 1965

1. Satisfaction - Rolling Stones
2. You've Lost That Lovin Feelin - Righteous Brothers
3. I Can't Help Myself - 4 Tops
4. Mrs. Brown You've Got A Lovely Daughter - Hermans Hermits
5. Yesterday - Beatles
6. Downtown - Petula Clark
7. Turn Turn Turn - Byrds
8. Stop in the Name of Love - Supremes
9. Help - Beatles
10. This Diamond Ring - Gary Lewis & the Playboys

Other Motown and related songs:

12. I Hear A Symphony - Supremes
19. My Girl - Temptations
21. A Lover's Concerto - Toys
24. 1 - 2 - 3 - Len Barry
30. Back in My Arms Again - Supremes
45. Shotgun - Junior Walker and the Allstars
67. How Sweet It is - Marvin Gaye
68. Ain't That Peculiar - Marvin Gaye
78. I'll Be Doggone - Marvin Gaye
81. It's The Same Old Song - 4 Tops
89. Shake - Sam Cooke
90. Nowhere to Run - Martha & the Vandellas

For this revised issue, they gave more weight to the Top 5 and less weight to songs that hung around on the Top 100 for a long time but never made it into the Top 5. They also put the song in the year that it peaked as well.

soulster
10-22-2012, 12:32 AM
It was also an interesting year in that Billboard suspended it's R&B/Soul Charts for that year.

There ya go! It was reasoned at the time that there was so much overlap of the charts, that the R&B chart was no longer needed.

I'd say that the dominance of The Beatles and the rest of the original British Invasion was a pretty accurate representation of the country at that time.

I never got a clear answer for the reversal of the policy months later.