Are the Flos Fizzled?

[luke]

No update on their website for almost a year and havent heard of any appearances.

[blueskies]

Their Yahoo group site is up and running.....though, seldom any mention of the FLOS.

[jobeterob]

I dont know the answer to this question but my perception is that everything Supremes connected has declined in the last few years; even Diana's long running tour is less active; beyond that the concerts are fewer, the appearances fewer, the publicity they attract is smaller; it probably has quite a lot to do with age.

[marybrewster]

I think most websites have gone the way of Facebook; easier to update and keep informed. If you are on FB, the FLOs do have their own page, with recent pictures.

[luke]

Many celeberties update their websites continually. I did look at their FB page before I posted this thread but didnt see much,

[carlo]

I just saw a new photo on the FLOS' Facebook page from an interview they did in Germany. They must be there doing at least one or more concert dates. Often times, when we don't hear from them, they're still touring, doing corporate and private concert dates. I heard that Diana also did some private gigs this past week and rumour has it she will be back on the road in the fall.

[luke]

Guess I missed it. They had been updating their website so it seemed unusual no news there.

[jobeterob]

Diana Ross Performed for a Seven Star Crowd This Past Weekend – What?
Diana Ross Performed for a Seven Star Crowd This Past Weekend – What?
June 18, 2012 By jmarmo Leave a Comment
Diana Ross snuck into town this weekend to perform a private concert for our Seven Star guests at Caesars Atlantic City on Friday night in honor of Seven Star Weekend.

She busted out the classics like “Stop In The Name Of Love” and “Baby Love” a la 1965 and didn’t even skip a beat. Miss Ross was as timeless and elegant as ever.


Radiant. Literally.
Say what, though?! “Curse you, Atlantic City blog, you told us nothing about this said event!”

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So seriously, it pays to be a Total Rewards member. If you haven’t signed up yet, do it now! Diana Ross was here, really?! Crazy.

[markdtiller]

Funny you should bring this up, but I recently realised my membership of the FLOS Yahoo site has been terminated. I rejoined and was refused, with no explanation forthcoming from David Kramlick. How rude! Not a nice way treat supporters. I wouldn't mind if I was one of these people who participate in bitch fests, I'm mainly quiet. Ah well.

[smark21]

David Kramlick has been a tear lately. He does a terrible job representing the FLOS in that Yahoo group of his. There’s a new member there who brought up Mary Wilson in a nice, uncontroversial way and Kramlick threaten to ban her and declared himself the “dictator” of the group. He must be off his meds.

[smark21]

Scherrie Payne has been keeping busy with another group, Tour de 4orce.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L73r6qw6cY

[rod_rick]

David Kramlick has been a tear lately. He does a terrible job representing the FLOS in that Yahoo group of his. There’s a new member there who brought up Mary Wilson in a nice, uncontroversial way and Kramlick threaten to ban her and declared himself the “dictator” of the group. He must be off his meds.

I wonder how Scherrie and Lynda react to some of his comments on that yahoo site. They made a big deal out of that interview Mary did when she couldn't remember Lynda's name for a moment. In their eyes you would think that Mary totally dissed them [[70 supremes)

[blueskies]

RE: Tour De 4Force: I was recently going to bring this group up and ask if anyone knew if they were still together. I have their CD. It's "OK". I think I played it once. Nothing really stood out for me. Lots of talent there, though. I need to give the CD a re-listen.

[jobeterob]

Rod, do you mean Scherrie and Lynda reacted to Mary forgetting the name or the members of the group reacted? It was a pretty minor miss. And Mary opened herself up a lot to that interviewer at the same time.

It's amazing how many people are said to be on medication.

[rod_rick]

Rod, do you mean Scherrie and Lynda reacted to Mary forgetting the name or the members of the group reacted? It was a pretty minor miss. And Mary opened herself up a lot to that interviewer at the same time.

It's amazing how many people are said to be on medication.

Rob
It's just some of the members of that Yahoo group. No one has stated that Scherrie or Lynda responded to the interview

[jobeterob]

Thanks Rod. I can't really imagine that Lynda or Scherrie would get too mixed up in this. Generally, the actual members of the group have stayed above the fan fray, thankfully.

[helga]

Is it true that Freddi was fired from the FLOS? I wonder if this has impacted the FLOS' bookings?

[detmotownguy]

Has there ever been a reliable confirmation on why jean left the FlOS? I have always been a big fan of her voice.

[jillfoster]

David Kramlick has been a tear lately. He does a terrible job representing the FLOS in that Yahoo group of his. There’s a new member there who brought up Mary Wilson in a nice, uncontroversial way and Kramlick threaten to ban her and declared himself the “dictator” of the group. He must be off his meds.

I agree.. David Kramlick is a complete jackass. He makes them look bad.

[jillfoster]

Has there ever been a reliable confirmation on why jean left the FlOS? I have always been a big fan of her voice.

Someone else can say what the rumors were... but if true, it wasn't pretty, and quite soap opera-ish. The FLOS ceased to be very important when Jean left. She was the key to everything, really. Joyce is wonderful... but she really doesn't BELONG with them, and frankly, the FLOS are far beneath her and her position in music history.

[marybrewster]

Someone else can say what the rumors were... but if true, it wasn't pretty, and quite soap opera-ish. The FLOS ceased to be very important when Jean left. She was the key to everything, really. Joyce is wonderful... but she really doesn't BELONG with them, and frankly, the FLOS are far beneath her and her position in music history.

Does anyone know if Joyce ever tours with Tony Oralndo and Telma Hopkins? Seems to me they used to do a Christmas show in Branson and not that long ago they released a Chrsitmas CD.

[markdtiller]

Is it true that Freddi was fired from the FLOS? I wonder if this has impacted the FLOS' bookings?
I have heard that Freddi[[e) left as she was not happy getting lower pay than Lynda & Scherrie, when she was putting in the same amount of work. I did think it was shabby the way Freddi was completely expunged when she left from the FLOS website, as though she never existed and Kramlick refused to be drawn on the subject. To not have the good grace to credit her for 13 years work was poor. She went of and joined Jean's Supreme Review and then of course landed the gig with the 3 Degrees. However, the FLOS seem to have patched it up with her now as she does get mentioned again.

[jobeterob]

I am not up on the details of all former Supremes.

So, Freddi was fired. Was she a FLO for 13 years? Jeez, long time.

And Jean Terrell has a review that is out there working too? Does Jean still sing?

And Freddi has gone on to the 3 Degrees?

I'll say it again, no wonder Mary has been pissed off at times; everyone is cashing in and taking the work away, including Shantal and the SOS; the real Supremes never get paid when they make movies based on some part of their story.

There should be some money in some of this.

[smark21]

The way The FLOS handled the departure of Freddie was badly handled with no announcement. Just new publicity pics, or existing pics photoshopped to cut Freddie out and insert Joyce Vincent Wilson. Scherrie Payne had to step in and clean up the mess when she finally made an announcement to the fans of the group about the line up change.

[helga]

I have heard that Freddi[[e) left as she was not happy getting lower pay than Lynda & Scherrie, when she was putting in the same amount of work. I did think it was shabby the way Freddi was completely expunged when she left from the FLOS website, as though she never existed and Kramlick refused to be drawn on the subject. To not have the good grace to credit her for 13 years work was poor. She went of and joined Jean's Supreme Review and then of course landed the gig with the 3 Degrees. However, the FLOS seem to have patched it up with her now as she does get mentioned again.

That's interesting. Thank you Mark for sharing your insight on this. I was reading some posts on this forum and the FLOS Yahoo Group. I find it ironic that a member named "ivyfield" was bitching over Mary forgetting Lynda's name in an interview for about 10 seconds [[and then went on to acknowledge her), meanwhile the FLOS' management team seemed eager to erase Freddi from history. Interesting indeed.

[jillfoster]

Helga, you might be interested to know that Lynda IS the FLOS management team. The other people around them are just fan club sycophants that do things for them gratis.

[marybrewster]

Is Eric Iverson no longer managing the FLOs? He's just as cute as he can be. I've got something he can manage, honey.

[detmotownguy]

Helga, you might be interested to know that Lynda IS the FLOS management team. The other people around them are just fan club sycophants that do things for them gratis.

Sometimes I wonder if Sherrie should have gone out on her own. Unless she felt there was still value in using "The Supremes" name in the group name. I never really cared much for any of the FLOS music. I am NOT bashing her voice, just the music. Freddie seemed like classy lady. I only met Lynda once at a concert in Detroit many years ago.

[helga]

Scherrie was and still is an amazing vocalist. She deserves more recognition.

[blueskies]

It would have been interesting to see/hear what the FLOS would have been like had Cindy stayed in the group with Jean and Scherrie. I 'think' that was the original line-up.

[detmotownguy]

I like that idea. Cindy worked with both ladies so there would have been good communication and harmony. Plus their sound would not be so shrill at times. Mary would have most likely supported these fine ladies.

[Roberta75]

Sometimes I wonder if Sherrie should have gone out on her own. Unless she felt there was still value in using "The Supremes" name in the group name. I never really cared much for any of the FLOS music. I am NOT bashing her voice, just the music. Freddie seemed like classy lady. I only met Lynda once at a concert in Detroit many years ago.

Wow..........you met Lynda Laurence? How cool. Was she really beautiful in real life as she looks stunning in photographs? Is she a nice lady. I've heard Ms. Laurence is lovely with her fans. Please tell us all about your meeting with former Supreme Lynda Laurence.

Yours, with every good wish.

Roberta

[markdtiller]

We spoke to soon or someone is reading this. There are suddenly 3 new news items n the FLOS website. A new album in the pipeline CD from their old producer, Steve Weaver [[ivyfield), new photos and dresses and shows in Germany.

[ralpht]

Mary Brewster, you make a man blush...

[blueskies]

Mary Brester to the rescue! I was feeling kinda down in the dumps today and read Mary's posting and laughed out loud. A good, old therapeutic laugh! Thanks, Mary!

[luke]

U kinow they are Mark! :) Scherrie could have been a bigger star if she had gone solo. To my knolwedge Tour De Force is pretty stagnant after an initial flurry.

[marv2]

U kinow they are Mark! :) Scherrie could have been a bigger star if she had gone solo. To my knolwedge Tour De Force is pretty stagnant after an initial flurry.

I also feel Scherrie would have fared a lot better had she not stayed in the FLOS as long as she has.

[blueskies]

I agree. I think the FLOS were fairly credible when Jean was in the group.....then when she left, so went that special spark. Scherrie should have gone out on her own.

[telekin]

I have heard that Freddi[[e) left as she was not happy getting lower pay than Lynda & Scherrie, when she was putting in the same amount of work. I did think it was shabby the way Freddi was completely expunged when she left from the FLOS website, as though she never existed and Kramlick refused to be drawn on the subject. To not have the good grace to credit her for 13 years work was poor. She went of and joined Jean's Supreme Review and then of course landed the gig with the 3 Degrees. However, the FLOS seem to have patched it up with her now as she does get mentioned again.

Some idle speculation here on my part and I'm not entirely clear on the timeline.. Given how many oldies acts have had their bookings affected by the recession [[I recall even Mary Wilson speaking about this recently), and if it's true that Freddie was getting less money as the third member of the FLOS, I'm thinking that her leaving may have been simply a business decision. If bookings were dwindling, and she had been offered a place as a full member of the Three Degrees, who would be a much bigger draw than the FLOS, it would have been a no-brainer on my part. Being a member of a well-known group like the Three Degrees, as opposed to being the non-Supreme in a group of former Supremes; it would likely mean more work, more money and more recognition.

[markdtiller]

Some idle speculation here on my part and I'm not entirely clear on the timeline.. Given how many oldies acts have had their bookings affected by the recession [[I recall even Mary Wilson speaking about this recently), and if it's true that Freddie was getting less money as the third member of the FLOS, I'm thinking that her leaving may have been simply a business decision. If bookings were dwindling, and she had been offered a place as a full member of the Three Degrees, who would be a much bigger draw than the FLOS, it would have been a no-brainer on my part. Being a member of a well-known group like the Three Degrees, as opposed to being the non-Supreme in a group of former Supremes; it would likely mean more work, more money and more recognition.

I think you're right about the business reasons, but there was quite a hiatus of at least a year between FLOS and 3 Degrees, she did not leave one for the other. In fact she went off and joined Jean Terrell in her Supreme Review with former Wild Honey group mate, Mary Flowers and then had a few gigs with her own Supreme Tribute Act, in 2010 before joining 3 Degrees in 2011. Things worked out well for her I think! She made the right decision.

[jobeterob]

There is a common thread in a lot of the interviews and chat regarding the FLOS and a lot of the other older acts that had some success but not big success ~ and that is the bookings are falling off, some of the tours haven't been successful, there have been cancellations, there seems to be competition from cheap tribute knocks offs or from spin off groups that have only the remotest connection to a group that originally successful; this seems to apply to everyone from the FLOS and Freddi Poole to the Jackson 4 to Mary Wilson and Jean Terrell to the Funk Brothers, Four Tops and Temptations and all these other acts from the 60's that had a few hits but didn't manage to bring in a lot of money and keep it.

[telekin]

I think you're right about the business reasons, but there was quite a hiatus of at least a year between FLOS and 3 Degrees, she did not leave one for the other. In fact she went off and joined Jean Terrell in her Supreme Review with former Wild Honey group mate, Mary Flowers and then had a few gigs with her own Supreme Tribute Act, in 2010 before joining 3 Degrees in 2011. Things worked out well for her I think! She made the right decision.

Ah, you're right.. I didn't realize there was about a year there between leaving the FLOS and joining the Three Degrees. I agree, she did make the right decision. Despite the economy, she has definitely come out as a winner in all of this, though I guess it's still very much an open question as to why she left the FLOS.

[marybrewster]

I agree with above; Freddi[[e) has been touring like crazy with the Three Degrees. You don't hear much about the FLOs performing.

And truth be told; Freddie is now in a legitimate girl-group. Not that the FLOs aren't a group, but they're not the Supremes.

[marv2]

Some idle speculation here on my part and I'm not entirely clear on the timeline.. Given how many oldies acts have had their bookings affected by the recession [[I recall even Mary Wilson speaking about this recently), and if it's true that Freddie was getting less money as the third member of the FLOS, I'm thinking that her leaving may have been simply a business decision. If bookings were dwindling, and she had been offered a place as a full member of the Three Degrees, who would be a much bigger draw than the FLOS, it would have been a no-brainer on my part. Being a member of a well-known group like the Three Degrees, as opposed to being the non-Supreme in a group of former Supremes; it would likely mean more work, more money and more recognition.

But that's not what happened. She was out of the FLOS for a while before getting picked up by the Three Degrees who had a member that was ill.

[luke]

Exactly. Thats the second time Ive seen that--trying to rewrite history. Ms Poole also seen going to Mary Wilson's show right after she was no longer in the Flos.

[marv2]

Exactly. Thats the second time Ive seen that--trying to rewrite history. Ms Poole also seen going to Mary Wilson's show right after she was no longer in the Flos.

Luke, she went to see Mary's show BEFORE she got fired!

[telekin]

But that's not what happened. She was out of the FLOS for a while before getting picked up by the Three Degrees who had a member that was ill.

Yes, I realize. I acknowledged that in post #42 [[http://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?6174-Are-the-Flos-Fizzled&p=118281#post118281), above.

[luke]

I love Karma! Now shes touring the world with a highly successful group!!

[marv2]

I love Karma! Now shes touring the world with a highly successful group!!

She's getting paid and getting some decent gigs.

[ivyfield]

No update on their website for almost a year and havent heard of any appearances.
Well I seriously hope not. They're contracted for gigs up till the middle of next year, I've completed 13 [[of the 15 tracks) for Supremely Yours II and they've just had 3 new sets of gowns made. Fizzled? After being together for almost 30 years? No. To quote Ms Ross on Oprah: "They keep the Supremes legacy alive". They certainly ain't finished yet.

The website is in the process of being re-designed. Priority is the new album. I fly out to LA to record the vocals at the end of August.

[luke]

No problem. Just hadnt heard much lately and there hadnt been any news. Though Mary Wilson has been the one since 1977 who has mainly kept the legacy alive. The Flos are really a different kind of act and were Supremes for a total of 4 years. Diana has also spent a lot of time talking about her significant her hair is and how people dont realize that.

[Glenpwood]

No problem. Just hadnt heard much lately and there hadnt been any news. Though Mary Wilson has been the one since 1977 who has mainly kept the legacy alive. The Flos are really a different kind of act and were Supremes for a total of 4 years. Diana has also spent a lot of time talking about her significant her hair is and how people dont realize that.

Please point me to the newspaper, magazine, internet article or You Tube clip where Diana discusses the importance of her hair. I would like to see that for myself.......

[marybrewster]

Please point me to the newspaper, magazine, internet article or You Tube clip where Diana discusses the importance of her hair. I would like to see that for myself.......

I believe it was on Oprah, although I think it was just casually mentioned, I don't know if there was a deep discussion, LOL.

[marybrewster]

Well I seriously hope not. They're contracted for gigs up till the middle of next year, I've completed 13 [[of the 15 tracks) for Supremely Yours II and they've just had 3 new sets of gowns made. Fizzled? After being together for almost 30 years? No. To quote Ms Ross on Oprah: "They keep the Supremes legacy alive". They certainly ain't finished yet.

The website is in the process of being re-designed. Priority is the new album. I fly out to LA to record the vocals at the end of August.

Could someone kindly post the gigs that the FLOs are are contracted for. I'd assume with being booked though the middle of next year, there's a good chance they'll be in my area. I'd hate to miss them!

[Glenpwood]

Ok, well I suppose it's a nice counterpoint for Diana to place importance on her hair since Mary has placed it on the gowns. Now if only Cindy would come out out and say it was all their shoes.....;)

[marybrewster]

Ok, well I suppose it's a nice counterpoint for Diana to place importance on her hair since Mary has placed it on the gowns. Now if only Cindy would come out out and say it was all their shoes.....;)

I'm waiting for Miss Susaye to talk about the EARRINGS! ;)

[blueskies]

I'm waiting for Miss Susaye to talk about the EARRINGS! ;)

Yea, and exactly how high were those heels?

[simplysupreme]

Please point me to the newspaper, magazine, internet article or You Tube clip where Diana discusses the importance of her hair. I would like to see that for myself.......


Diana has not spent "a lot of time" talking about the significance of her hair, Glen. She simply mentioned that in her book. The person who brought it up is an authority on insignificant things. What does that have to do with anything regarding this subject?

[luke]

I saw a clip yesterday with a German interviewer from 2004 where she went on and on about her hair. She also went on and on about her hair in her bird book--its actually quite funny. Though it does make one wonder if the ol girl is ok. PS The intervirwer asked her about the challenges in her career or something like that and with a straight face she answered her hair. LOLOL will try to find it-on youtube.

[REDHOT]

I'm happy for Scherrie Payne And Lynda Laurence Former Ladies Of The Supremes With Joynce Vincent Wilson,working on a new cd,i like they're music,i'm always pleased when with the ladies live shows,i love me some Scherrie Payne LOL
Please stay positive

[Roberta75]

Diana has not spent "a lot of time" talking about the significance of her hair, Glen. She simply mentioned that in her book. The person who brought it up is an authority on insignificant things. What does that have to do with anything regarding this subject?

You seem to take great pleasure in knocking Diane Ross luke. Why?

Roberta

[marv2]

I saw a clip yesterday with a German interviewer from 2004 where she went on and on about her hair. She also went on and on about her hair in her bird book--its actually quite funny. Though it does make one wonder if the ol girl is ok. PS The intervirwer asked her about the challenges in her career or something like that and with a straight face she answered her hair. LOLOL will try to find it-on youtube.

It's been a while, but if you reread "Dreamgirl, My Life As A Supreme" you will get a "clearer" picture as to why she acts like that. Part of you will want to dislike her, part of you will want to feel sorry for her. She is not too deep......

[marv2]

You seem to take great pleasure in knocking Diane Ross luke. Why?

Roberta

Because it's fun? Because it's easy? LOL!!!! Who really cares?

[marv2]

I'm happy for Scherrie Payne And Lynda Laurence Former Ladies Of The Supremes With Joynce Vincent Wilson,working on a new cd,i like they're music,i'm always pleased when with the ladies live shows,i love me some Scherrie Payne LOL
Please stay positive

Where have you seen their live shows? Do they perform in America?

[marv2]

Diana has not spent "a lot of time" talking about the significance of her hair, Glen. She simply mentioned that in her book. The person who brought it up is an authority on insignificant things. What does that have to do with anything regarding this subject?

Diana Ross said, "having hair is a big responsibility!" LOL!!!! She so crazy, hehehehehehehe.....

[marv2]

Please point me to the newspaper, magazine, internet article or You Tube clip where Diana discusses the importance of her hair. I would like to see that for myself.......

It was in that stupid book she wrote back in the 90's. She also goes there in her wimpy defense interview with Barbara Walters in 2000 about RTL.

[marv2]

No problem. Just hadnt heard much lately and there hadnt been any news. Though Mary Wilson has been the one since 1977 who has mainly kept the legacy alive. The Flos are really a different kind of act and were Supremes for a total of 4 years. Diana has also spent a lot of time talking about her significant her hair is and how people dont realize that.

Yes that is true. Mary Wilson is the caretaker of the Supremes legacy. She's done it all these years almost single-handedly.

[milven]

It was in that stupid book she wrote back in the 90's. She also goes there in her wimpy defense interview with Barbara Walters in 2000 about RTL.

That book was a waste of paper. In NYC, at the TRIAD THEATER, they had comedians reading selections from bad celebrity autobiographies. Diana's book was bad enough to have been read a few times at these shows. Yeah, I like Diana, and felt guilty that I was laughing at the reading. But , it confirmed what I felt when I bought the book and read it. It said nothing about what I wanted to know first hand from the lady herself about what was written about her, and it said much about nothing of significance. Her real "tell all", UPSIDE DOWN will probably never be released.

[simplysupreme]

You seem to take great pleasure in knocking Diane Ross luke. Why?

Roberta

Roberta, that's what's so pathetic. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?......

[smark21]

That book was a waste of paper. In NYC, at the TRIAD THEATER, they had comedians reading selections from bad celebrity autobiographies. Diana's book was bad enough to have been read a few times at these shows. Yeah, I like Diana, and felt guilty that I was laughing at the reading. But , it confirmed what I felt when I bought the book and read it. It said nothing about what I wanted to know first hand from the lady herself about what was written about her, and it said much about nothing of significance. Her real "tell all", UPSIDE DOWN will probably never be released.

From what I understood at the time there was a bit of buzz about it, the Upside Down book was not going to be a tell all, but an inspirational how to/self help book. No wonder it was never issued.

[luke]

Roberta you are always so busy judging everyone--relax! Read back over the posts and you'll see why I said what I said. Are you also protective of Mary? But dont start any fights--just focus on your self!

[Roberta75]

Roberta you are always so busy judging everyone--relax! Read back over the posts and you'll see why I said what I said. Are you also protective of Mary? But dont start any fights--just focus on your self!

I never mention Mary did I? You love to stir things up Luke but I'm not judging. I'm telling the truth sweetness.

You have yourself a good evening and read Hebrews, chapter 13, verse 5.

Roberta

[marv2]

I never mention Mary did I? You love to stir things up Luke but I'm not judging. I'm telling the truth sweetness.

You have yourself a good evening and read Hebrews, chapter 13, verse 5.

Roberta

Why do you assume him to be Christian.

[Roberta75]

Roberta, that's what's so pathetic. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?......

It's a very thin and easy to read volume my dear. A book for beginners I would say. LOL

Yours, with every good wish.

Roberta

[marybrewster]

Could someone kindly post the gigs that the FLOs are are contracted for. I'd assume with being booked though the middle of next year, there's a good chance they'll be in my area. I'd hate to miss them!

Hi ivyfield, I didn't want you to miss this posting. As you mentioned the FLOs are contracted for gigs up until the middle of next year, would you kindly post those dates, or direct me to where I can find those dates? I am interested in seeing the FLOs in concert and with their busy schedule, surely there must be one date I can attend.

Thank you.

[Kamasu_Jr]

I'm JUST happy Joyce Vincent is working...doing what she loves-singing. I'd love to see her work with Tony and Telma again, BUT it doesn't seem likely. As for the Flos, the group's bookings do seem to leave them a lot of time for other things like side or personal projects. I'd go see them if they played Memphis.

[marv2]

I would have thought that after being a part of Diana Ross' big "Return to Love " tour extravaganza, that the FLO's would have increased in popularity. I guess not.

[smark21]

For the FLOS new recording, are they recording new songs or remaking old Supremes hits?

[marv2]

I thought they did that [[remake old Supremes hits) already. Wouldn't it be cheaper to record some new, original material than to keep paying H-D-H?

[marybrewster]

I'm hoping someone could direct me to a site where I can see all of the FLOs upcoming concert appearances. I've read above they are booked well into the middle of 2013. With almost a yearful of dates, surely this information must be readily available to the fans.

[ivyfield]

Tour de Force did an album but [[apart from one promo show that was broadcast over the internet) they never performed live. Correct me if I'm wrong. It was a nice album.

[markdtiller]

If you go to FLOS website, producer Steve Weaver has more info on the upcoming album, covers but not Supremes songs - they did them already with Sundray.
http://www.scherriepayneandlyndalaurence.com/news.html
I imagine they tour largely in the Far East and Europe, and corporate, where you're not only as good as your last hit. However, it would be helpful to have their gigs listed on the website as they have fans worldwide.

[jobeterob]

Ticketmaster shows nothing for the FLOS.

It shows 2 listings for Mary Wilson: a 60's spectacular next april with the happenings, hermans hermits, jay and the americans, and a casino show in milwaukee in september.

[marybrewster]

The only way to get people to your concert is if they know there is a concert. Makes me question how booked the FLOs really are. Seems no one can produce any dates; I'll assume they're not as busy as suggested. Which is a shame. Who wouldn't love to see Scherrie, Lynda and Joyce?

[Glenpwood]

The FLO's do a lot a good amount of Corporate/Gigs from what I understand [[so do Mary and Diana) so that could explain why you don't see listings at Ticketmaster. How many tour dates constitute a success in everyones eyes anyway? The fact that these ladies are willing to go out on the road and entertain at all at this point should be embraced by all the Supremes fans in any incarnation. There is going to come a day sooner than later where they decide to retire and we won't be getting anything at all so it's just best to appreciate what's available to us.

[marv2]

Ticketmaster shows nothing for the FLOS.

It shows 2 listings for Mary Wilson: a 60's spectacular next april with the happenings, hermans hermits, jay and the americans, and a casino show in milwaukee in september.

They didn't list her show in Connecticut this coming Saturday?

[marv2]

The only way to get people to your concert is if they know there is a concert. Makes me question how booked the FLOs really are. Seems no one can produce any dates; I'll assume they're not as busy as suggested. Which is a shame. Who wouldn't love to see Scherrie, Lynda and Joyce?

Does anyone know the status of Diana Ross' World Tour?

[marybrewster]

The FLO's do a lot a good amount of Corporate/Gigs from what I understand [[so do Mary and Diana) so that could explain why you don't see listings at Ticketmaster. How many tour dates constitute a success in everyones eyes anyway? The fact that these ladies are willing to go out on the road and entertain at all at this point should be embraced by all the Supremes fans in any incarnation. There is going to come a day sooner than later where they decide to retire and we won't be getting anything at all so it's just best to appreciate what's available to us.

How right you are glenpwood; it would be nice though if the dates were readily available to the fans. More often than not, we typically hear about a performance AFTER the fact. A lot of good that does. I give big props to Scherrie and Lynda and Joyce; just wish they would tour more here in the States for the public, versus corporate functions or even overseas.

[marv2]

. How many tour dates constitute a success in everyones eyes anyway?

At least 20 public dates in my opinion.

[REDHOT]

Marv2 i'v seen Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence Former Ladies Of The Supremes,here in la,ca, at The Sunset Junction many times,and yes The Ladies put on a great show,i'v also seen Mary Wilson there many times,and she also put on a great show there,so
Please stay positive

[Roberta75]

Marv2 i'v seen Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence Former Ladies Of The Supremes,here in la,ca, at The Sunset Junction many times,and yes The Ladies put on a great show,i'v also seen Mary Wilson there many times,and she also put on a great show there,so
Please stay positive

I'm not sure Marv2 can stay positive dear redhot. The poor soul seems to drag every thread down with his negativity and unhappiness which is why I have him on ignore. Very sad indeed. He needs our prayers and good wishes.

On a more positive note i have also seen Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence of the Former Ladies Of The Supremes, with Freddie Pool in concert and yes, the ladies put on a highly charged, wonderful show.

My very best to you.

Roberta

[revvy]

Not me! Their youtube videos are bad enough! Who was it that said Scherrie belongs on Broadway? Somebody famous, I can't remember right now. It's true. Can't say much for Lynda except she screeches and her sassy, arrogant moves turn me off. Like Roberta's Christian responses.

[Roberta75]

Not me! Their youtube videos are bad enough! Who was it that said Scherrie belongs on Broadway? Somebody famous, I can't remember right now. It's true. Can't say much for Lynda except she screeches and her sassy, arrogant moves turn me off. Like Roberta's Christian responses.

If my Christian faith turns you off, I humbly ask that you place me on ignore.

Best to you.

Roberta

[nathanj06]

Fizzled? I certainly hope so. Didn't that happen when it started? Scherrie could have always stood on her own.

[revvy]

It's not your Christian faith, Roberta. It's your bringing it on to the forum where it has no relevance.

[ivyfield]

http://www.therrazzroom.com/13ap/flos.html Plus they're in Belgium later this month for a concert - headlining with a full orchestra.
Stoned Love, ♥Steve.

[skooldem1]

I can't understand why anyone who claims to be a "Supreme's" fan would want to see any of them fizzle or fail.

[Roberta75]

It's not your Christian faith, Roberta. It's your bringing it on to the forum where it has no relevance.

My Christian faith goes everywhere with me my dear. I take it to work, the movies, concerts, shopping malls, ministries in Guadalajara, restaurants, the bathroom and this forum so again I must say, if my Christian faith turns you off, I humbly ask that you place me on ignore.

Hope you have had a beautiful and blessed Sunday..

Roberta

[jobeterob]

Most of these acts are a little fizzled due to age; there isn't a one that's overly active. For a while the fake Marvelettes were the busiest and that's because they were 20 years old.

[144man]

And lo and behold it came to pass that a holy man fell into a deep sleep and dreamt that the Lord God appeared unto him.

God said to him, "I can see that thou art sorely troubled. As thou hast led a righteous life, I will answer three questions for thee."

The holy man thought for a moment, then asked, "Will word poverty ever be eradicated?".
"Not in your lifetime", said God.

"Will there ever be Peace on Earth between nations?"
"Not in your children's lifetime," God sadly replied.

"Will the fighting between the Supremes' fans ever end?"
God sighed and answered "Not in My lifetime."

[marybrewster]

Odd that this would be included in their promotion for the Rrazz:

2009 marked the 23rd Anniversary of The FLOS.

Wouldn't "2011 marked the 25th Anniversary of the FLOS." be more appropriate? Looks like a cut and paste job, probably from Wiki. Outside of this date and Belgium, mentioned above, there is no other dates found as to where they are playing. Certainly they must have more than 2 gigs for the rest of 2012? Maybe not? Either way, these ladies deserve better promotion.

[marv2]

Other than the show they did with Diane, the FLOS have never played New York. There are plenty venues to play here, but for some reason they have never been booked.

[luke]

Maybe the reason is more obvious.

[marv2]

Maybe the reason is more obvious.

Well I asked Lynda about that once and all she said was that their name was not big enough to get bookings in New York City.

[luke]

Yep. As Mary and Diana continue to tour and sing Supreme songs,its kind of like whats the point of the Flos. They dont sing like the Supremes, use different arrangements of the songs and as I said were Supremes for four years total.

[Roberta75]

Yep. As Mary and Diana continue to tour and sing Supreme songs,its kind of like whats the point of the Flos. They dont sing like the Supremes, use different arrangements of the songs and as I said were Supremes for four years total.

If there were no FLOS what would you and your BFF marv2 have to giggle and gossip about? For people who dont seem to care about the FLOS, you both sure spend a lot of time talking about them. You and marv2 have contributed more than anyone else to this thread.

Roberta

[jobeterob]

If there were no FLOS what would you and your BFF marv2 have to giggle and gossip about? For people who dont seem to care about the FLOS, you both sure spend a lot of time talking about them. You and marv2 have contributed more than anyone else to this thread.

Roberta

It's just some bizarre jealousy.

The equivalent type of posting is about Diana and RTL. And the equivalent about Mary is living in a mortgaged house with her kids and playing before 150 people at times.

In the end, so what?

The ladies are aging; the crowds are thinning for them all, even for Diana. For the rest of them, they need to associate with Diana to make much money. And the days of a lengthy tour are gone; they are all too old for it. And Diana won't go anywhere with any of them.

So, if the FLOS are fizzled, they are all fizzled and need to bask in a reflected glory of another time.

[marv2]

If there were no FLOS what would you and your BFF marv2 have to giggle and gossip about? For people who dont seem to care about the FLOS, you both sure spend a lot of time talking about them. You and marv2 have contributed more than anyone else to this thread.

Roberta

Look man, this thread was started by someone else and was at the top of the list when I signed on. I and anyone else are allowed to post in it. Get it? I don't think you do, but we can respond to any thread that's public. Now go find a nice verse in your Bible to dwell on for today.........

[marv2]

It's just some bizarre jealousy.

The equivalent type of posting is about Diana and RTL. And the equivalent about Mary is living in a mortgaged house with her kids and playing before 150 people at times.

In the end, so what?

The ladies are aging; the crowds are thinning for them all, even for Diana. For the rest of them, they need to associate with Diana to make much money. And the days of a lengthy tour are gone; they are all too old for it. And Diana won't go anywhere with any of them.

So, if the FLOS are fizzled, they are all fizzled and need to bask in a reflected glory of another time.

Ah Rob cut it out. It's embarassing to see/read you carrying on this way. The Flo's career may just be at a stand still for the moment, no biggie. Why do you and Roberta make such a big deal out of nothing is beyond me.

[marv2]

Yep. As Mary and Diana continue to tour and sing Supreme songs,its kind of like whats the point of the Flos. They dont sing like the Supremes, use different arrangements of the songs and as I said were Supremes for four years total.

Well, Mary Wilson is the only one still touring to be accurate. Idonn't know or care what Diane is doing anymore. But I think you are right about what's the point? I mean you do have many other tribute acts out there including Kaaren Ragland's SOS group. I wonder how they are doing with bookings in the US?

[144man]

And lo and behold it came to pass that a holy man fell into a deep sleep and dreamt that the Lord God appeared unto him.

God said to him, "I can see that thou art sorely troubled. As thou hast led a righteous life, I will answer three questions for thee."

The holy man thought for a moment, then asked, "Will word poverty ever be eradicated?".
"Not in your lifetime", said God.

"Will there ever be Peace on Earth between nations?"
"Not in your children's lifetime," God sadly replied.

"Will the fighting between the Supremes' fans ever end?"
God sighed and answered "Not in My lifetime."

The entries on this page prove the point I was making above. It's time to move on and let bygones be bygones.

[midnightman]

Seems like there's folks who would only consider Mary, Diana and Florence as the only Supremes that matter while the "FLOS" are nothing... that's what I'm getting from some posts. I don't get it, I mean are the FLOS not supposed to make a living?

[marv2]

Seems like there's folks who would only consider Mary, Diana and Florence as the only Supremes that matter while the "FLOS" are nothing... that's what I'm getting from some posts. I don't get it, I mean are the FLOS not supposed to make a living?

Who's stopping the FLO's from making a living?

[jobeterob]

The FLOS did well for years and made a living and had a following. Good job for them. They also stayed together a lot longer than any group of Supremes or the Supremes period.

All they ever did that annoyed 10 rabid Mary Wilson fans was purportedly take bookings away from Mary [[which might have been possible at times), join Diana for RTL and be friendly and supportive with Diana. A dozen other tribute groups may have competed with all of them for work and lots of people only wanted to see Diana or Mary anyway.

The real fly in the ointment for fans and especially for that small core of Mary Wilson fans is that with the fuck ups over every get together of Supremes and there were only two legitimate attempts, it just chased Diana away from it all and we [[and Mary) get nothing .

We would take even a Beach Boys scrap of a tour or 4 dates from the Rolling Stone but at 68, there is nothing in it for Diana and the deal is done.

What's so odd is that Mary really doesn't appear to give much of a damn anymore either; just some overly committed fans [[two of them on SD!) remain with their hurt feelings.

[revvy]

Let's be real here. Considering the entire Supremes legacy including Berry, the Motown "machine", HDH, the Funk Brothers, Maxine Powell, Cholly, Mackie/Travis, countless producers and assistants, Scherrie and Lynda account for about 1% and .5% respectively. Nothing against them personally, they are both formidable singers and seem like very nice ladies. They had to consider there would be a backlash from the fans for going out in Mary and Cindy's places in RTL. I wish them well but, based on what I have seen on youtube, I'm not rushing out to buy tickets or to travel anywhere to see them perform. On the other hand, I would have paid the top ticket price to see Diana, Mary and Cindy at more than one venue had they gone out together. That was an enormous money-making opportunity, but greed and ego got in the way. Shame on Diana and the promoters...and let's not forget, she never atoned for it. That's what kind of hurts [[for me anyway).

[marv2]

The FLOS did well for years and made a living and had a following. Good job for them. They also stayed together a lot longer than any group of Supremes or the Supremes period.

All they ever did that annoyed 10 rabid Mary Wilson fans was purportedly take bookings away from Mary [[which might have been possible at times), join Diana for RTL and be friendly and supportive with Diana. A dozen other tribute groups may have competed with all of them for work and lots of people only wanted to see Diana or Mary anyway.

The real fly in the ointment for fans and especially for that small core of Mary Wilson fans is that with the fuck ups over every get together of Supremes and there were only two legitimate attempts, it just chased Diana away from it all and we [[and Mary) get nothing .

We would take even a Beach Boys scrap of a tour or 4 dates from the Rolling Stone but at 68, there is nothing in it for Diana and the deal is done.

What's so odd is that Mary really doesn't appear to give much of a damn anymore either; just some overly committed fans [[two of them on SD!) remain with their hurt feelings.

You are mistakened. No one that I personally know [[that were not at the rooftop concert at the Ponchitrain Hotel in Detroit in 1990),has ever seen the FLO's in concert anywhere. They perform mostly overseas. I have never known them to take any bookings away from Mary Wilson and I follow her career pretty closely. They do not play the same venues nor is their activity level anywhere near that of Mary Wilson's. You are confused. They more or less compete with the tribute acts such as Kaaren Ragland's "Sounds of the Supremes".

Diane Ross is retired or may as well be as far as the public in the United States is concerned. She can't even get a television spot now that the Oprah Winfrey Show is off the air. She'll have to do something controversial like another DUI arrest or something similar to get her name in the press. The calling of paparazzi everytime she goes grocery shopping is wearing thin. She only tours sporadically and there is just not much interest in her outside of her hardcore fan base anymore. However, Mary nor Diane have anything to do with why folks feel that the FLO's have fizzled. They never even POPPED in this country so fizzling out will not make headlines sadly.

[marv2]

Let's be real here. Considering the entire Supremes legacy including Berry, the Motown "machine", HDH, the Funk Brothers, Maxine Powell, Cholly, Mackie/Travis, countless producers and assistants, Scherrie and Lynda account for about 1% and .5% respectively. Nothing against them personally, they are both formidable singers and seem like very nice ladies. They had to consider there would be a backlash from the fans for going out in Mary and Cindy's places in RTL. I wish them well but, based on what I have seen on youtube, I'm not rushing out to buy tickets or to travel anywhere to see them perform. On the other hand, I would have paid the top ticket price to see Diana, Mary and Cindy at more than one venue had they gone out together. That was an enormous money-making opportunity, but greed and ego got in the way. Shame on Diana and the promoters...and let's not forget, she never atoned for it. That's what kind of hurts [[for me anyway).

Another thoughful and intelligent summary of what the real deal is. Diane will atone for it later. Scherrie and Lynda never found their audience, at least not here in the U.S.
I love Scherrie and always felt that she should have remained a solo artist once the Supremes disbanded 35 years ago.......