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mikey
09-06-2010, 12:04 AM
Great lyrics,great voice.What a performance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0AcFZTMSPY
Who is Phil Colbert?

mikey
09-06-2010, 07:59 AM
Another artist that fell off the radar screen.He reminds me of Roy Hamilton.

robb_k
09-06-2010, 12:20 PM
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Nice Bachrach-Hilliard song. I have a few records by Phil Colbert that I like a lot. He got a lot of high-quality material to work with, but, somehow, never got mush push from his record companies. They didn't think he had "star power" [[that extra energy, confidence and charisma).

mikey
09-06-2010, 10:12 PM
Apparently Phil Colbert is a blue-eyed soul singer.

mikey
09-06-2010, 10:20 PM
Further research reveals he is a french canadian black singer.

mikey
09-07-2010, 12:18 AM
Perhaps an interview with the arranger Horace Ott would reveal some more about Phil Colbert.Is Horace Ott still with us?

robb_k
09-07-2010, 01:17 PM
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So, then his name would be pronounced "Feeleeep Kolbaire".

mikey
09-07-2010, 09:19 PM
Ha ha ha ha!!

robb_k
09-07-2010, 10:06 PM
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Ha ha ha ha!!

Ce n'était pas une plaisanterie. Je suis Canadien!

mikey
09-07-2010, 10:38 PM
robb k:You're gonna have to forgive me.My comprehension of French is close to nil.

robb_k
09-07-2010, 11:14 PM
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Try "Google Translate"-might be good for a laugh if it translates as poorly as usual.

mikey
09-08-2010, 09:01 PM
Hi Robb K: I think you have mentioned in the past that you're a Canadian.

robb_k
09-09-2010, 12:18 AM
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Yes. And that's why I was explaining how Colbert's name should be pronounced, finding out he is un Habitant [[resident of Québec). The joke was that I spelled my nationality "Canadien"-which is the French word, and essentially means "French Canadian". "Canadian essentially means "English Canadian". But I am a Dutch Canadian.

Do you speak Chinese as well as English? I have a Chinese housemate [[from Shanghai) in my U.S. house, and am learning Mandarin. My brother lived 5 years in Beijing and 6 months in Hong Kong/Macao. I have several Aunts and Uncles whose families lived in Shanghai from the 1880s, 1906 or 1935 through 1950.

I thought that with a family name Lee Shu, you would have Chinese ancestry.

mikey
09-09-2010, 12:55 AM
My grandfather came to Jamaica in 1902.He came from Guangdong province,China.Hakka is their dialect.Unfortunately I'm in not too coversant in Chinese.

davie gordon2
09-11-2010, 05:51 AM
I think this is Phil Colbert's complete discography

K.C. 105 [[July 1962)
Deep Down Inside [[Doc Bagby,Barbara Kemp)
Lies [[Sol Marcus,Benny Benjamin)
Prod : Doc Bagby
- K.C. was Nat King Cole's label.

Smash 1865 [[Jan 1964)
Where Was I [[Andy Badale, John Clifford)
That's All It Was [[Doc Bagby,Barbara Kemp)
Prod : not credited

Philips 40313 [[Oct 1965)
Who's Got The Action [[Burt Bacharach,Bob Hilliard)
The Long Long Tunnel [[Freddie Scott, Helen Miller)
Prod : Hal Mooney arr : Horace Ott

Philips 40361 [[April 1966)
Tomorrow May Never Come [[Wooten,Steward)
The Edge of Heaven [[Gary Geld,Peter Udell)
Prod : Hal Mooney arr : Horace Ott
- if BMI is correct "Wooten" seems to be a pseudonym for Doris Troy

SSS Intl. 708 [[July 1967)
Too Much Pride [[Ben Peters)
Troubles [[Joe Venneri, Richard Williams)
Prod : Joe Venneri

The last sighting I had of him was when he was vice-president of a small indie, New York Sound Records, in the early seventies.
He may have been based in Philadelphia for some time as Doc Bagby and Joe Venneri worked there a lot. Looks as if he left Philips when Shelby Singleton resigned to set up his own
labels.

mikey
09-12-2010, 12:45 AM
According to a show biz article in Jet magazine May 06th,1965 page 63, Phil Colbert was referred to as a French Canadian black.He was signed to Mercury by Andy Stroud [[Nina Simone's husband).

robb_k
09-12-2010, 02:55 PM
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According to a show biz article in Jet magazine May 06th,1965 page 63, Phil Colbert was referred to as a French Canadian black.He was signed to Mercury by Andy Stroud [[Nina Simone's husband).

I wonder if Colbert's ancestors were American slaves escaping slavery through The Underground Railway, who ended up in French New Brunswick [[Acadia)? -Or if his ancestors were immigrants to Quebec from Haiti or oneof the French Carribean islands?

davie gordon2
09-13-2010, 04:34 PM
I've found some more info. on Phil Colbert.

He was, very briefly, a member of Billy Ward and the Dominoes in 1958 but didn't last long enough to record with them. According to Marv Goldberg's essay on the group he was fired after
they did some dates at the Golden Hotel in Las Vegas around spring 1958.

It looks as if he abandoned his singing career to work in promotion - he was appointed the R&B promotion manager for SSS Intl. in June 1967 but didn't last long there as he was working
for Jubilee by early 1968. He was one of the promotion men for Invictus in 1970 then moved back to New York in 1971 to work at the short-lived New York Sound label.
In January '72 he was working for Sonny Lester's Groove Merchant label as their promotion man for the East Coast and later, in 1976, was made R&B promotion manager for the London
label presumably working on the Olympic Runners and Hodges,James and Smith. I doubt that lasted very long as the US London label was on its last legs by that time.
The trail goes cold after 1976. I'd guess he's now in his seventies and long since retired from the music business.

mikey
09-14-2010, 12:18 AM
Hi Robb K: Wish we could interview Phil Colbert.
Davie Gordon2: Super stuff.