Motown 25 - US Magazine?

[ejluther]

Hi, all - I'm new to the forum but a long time Motown fan [[especially the Supremes) and have always been curious about the infamous photo of the Diana-Mary altercation that supposedly ran in US Magazine at the time [[I believe it was US Magazine). Does anyone have a scan of it or know what issue it was so I can try to track it down? We've all read the different accounts of what happened and I've always wanted to see the US coverage, especially since I imagine the footage itself will never see the light of day. Can you imagine if that happened today? It would be all over YouTube before the audience even left the theater! I understand there's a MOTOWN at 50 TV special in the works so dare we even dream of another attempt at a televised Supremes reunion? That would be a ratings winner for sure and make this Supremes fan very happy...

Speaking of Motown on video, I think the new Ed Sullivan DVDs are terrific and I am really looking forward to the complete Supremes singles set and the expanded "MORE HITS..." CD coming out soon.

Thanks in advance and I've enjoyed reading a lot of the posts here.

[motony]

Hey, welcome to Soulfuldetroit!I think the incident you are referring to was greatly exaggerated & the tale has grown over the years.I don't recall seeing a photo of the incident.If there is I'm sure someone can point you to it.

[TMSG]

If I remember rightly, the incident involved Diane grabbing Mary's hand to prevent her from moving too far forward, as had been rehearsed. Diana had to be in the forward position on stage to present her speech to Berry Gordy about "everyone coming home" for the 25th anniversary event. I think too much was made of the incident at the time and Diana was just being her usually "professional" self.

[reese]

I have that US Magazine and what has been reported about it is untrue. Yes, the text mentions that the reunion didn't go well. But there are no photos showing shoving, or mike snatching. They simply show Diana, Mary, and Cindy onstage singing.

FYI: The issue is 5/23/83, and has Charlene Tilton and her husband singer Johnny Lee on the cover.

[ejluther]

Thanks for the fast replies!

"I have that US Magazine and what has been reported about it is untrue."

Isn't it funny how that happens? I've read several places that the magazine had a photo of "the" incident. Anyway, thanks for the info about the issue itself...

[arrr&bee]

Oh!!!mary herself said the incident did happen and i believe mary...motown forever!

[honest man]

Here we go,i will not be on this thread from now,

[nabob]

Hi, all - I'm new to the forum but a long time Motown fan [[especially the Supremes) and have always been curious about the infamous photo of the Diana-Mary altercation that supposedly ran in US Magazine at the time.Welcome to the Forum, ejluther. The alleged incident that may or may not have happened was 27 years ago. It has been discussed over and over throughout the years with many hurtful things said by members to one another in expressing various view points and opinions. Please be aware that topics related to the Supremes tend to have toxic effects on relations between members. I hope you enjoy being a member of this Forum.

[Jimi LaLumia]

I have press coverage, and all press reported that the audience let out an audible gasp after Mary. on mic, says,"Berry, come on down!" and Miss Ross pushes the mic down while proclaiming "it's been taken care of!'..
it wasn't a fight, but let's not pretend that film editors weren't working overtime to splice a version that looked acceptable, quickly cutting to Ross saying" How long is it gonna take you to get down here?" to Gordy,who then embraces Mary and says "You finally learned how to sing!",making light of Mary taking over the lead on "Someday We'll Be Together'...
and that's the way it is!

[ejluther]

Welcome to the Forum, ejluther. The alleged incident that may or may not have happened was 27 years ago. It has been discussed over and over throughout the years with many hurtful things said by members to one another in expressing various view points and opinions. Please be aware that topics related to the Supremes tend to have toxic effects on relations between members. I hope you enjoy being a member of this Forum.
Thanks and I wasn't trying to start anything - just curious about the photo I've heard so much about, that's all. My favorite thing about the Supremes is and always been the music and performances, not the drama [[although that, too, is undeniably compelling)...

[marv2]

Oh!!!mary herself said the incident did happen and i believe mary...motown forever!

It did happen [[in front of approx. 4,000 eye witnesses). Anyone that says it didn't, is lying or just don't know the facts!

[marv2]

Cindy Birdsong, the other woman on the stage at the time said it happened also!

[dianesfan_1965]

It happened. I seen it.

[RossHolloway]

much to do about nothing...once again.

[dianesfan_1965]

much to do about nothing...once again.

Before RTL .... there was MOTOWN 25!!!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw

[RossHolloway]

I just think this is another thread to start Supreme fans to clashing again. Anyone else find it "curious" that a new poster would start this type of thread? And their only posts are about this thread....I'm just sayin...

[marv2]

It happened. I seen it.

Yeah, a couple of friends of mine that were there saw it too, so I know it happened.

[marv2]

much to do about nothing...once again.


That's what I said, but then Mary wrote her book , "Dreamgirl, My Life As A Supreme" and it was all over then. Just ask Diane.

[marv2]

I just think this is another thread to start Supreme fans to clashing again. Anyone else find it "curious" that a new poster would start this type of thread? And their only posts are about this thread....I'm just sayin...


You could be right. We do have a certain creep quotient here. LOL!!!

[jobeterob]

Does anyone remember that a month ago Mary Wilson asked people to stop the petty chat? And if they couldn't, to leave her out of it.

A shame she is ignored again.

[marv2]

Does anyone remember that a month ago Mary Wilson asked people to stop the petty chat? And if they couldn't, to leave her out of it.

A shame she is ignored again.


Yeah well, we are discussing an important moment in Motown History. After Motown 25 , I was finished with Diana Ross forever. After "Dreamgirl, My Life As A Supreme", most of the American Public was through with Diana Ross forever! This is hardly petty......!

[thaperson]

They both behaved badly.

Diana was sick and dismissed Mary and Cindy off the bat. She should have been a lot more respectful.

Mary deliberately went against the planned dress code, choreography and introductions. Regardless of whatever "Getting caught up in the moment" spin she puts on it.

Cindy just did whatever she was told.

All in all, it was a lackluster performance, and a shame that the Supremes only reunion was such a disaster.

[marv2]

They both behaved badly.

Diana was sick and dismissed Mary and Cindy off the bat. She should have been a lot more respectful.

Mary deliberately went against the planned dress code, choreography and introductions. Regardless of whatever "Getting caught up in the moment" spin she puts on it.

Cindy just did whatever she was told.

All in all, it was a lackluster performance, and a shame that the Supremes only reunion was such a disaster.


Yeah, BUT! Forget the routine. Diane is never to put her hands on Mary Wilson's person or anyone else's. She is still suffering the consequences whether her fans choose to believe it or not.

[thaperson]

But nothing.

Diana was wrong for not treating the girls with the proper respect, and Mary was wrong for going out of her way to ruin the performance.

Is it not solely Diana's fault. BOTH should have worked together like adults to make it memorable. This was about Motown and Berry, not them.

[Jimi LaLumia]

Motown and Berry WAS all about The Supremes, to me and millions of fans worldwide,which is the way Gordy wanted it; he created the monster

[marv2]

But nothing.

Diana was wrong for not treating the girls with the proper respect, and Mary was wrong for going out of her way to ruin the performance.

Is it not solely Diana's fault. BOTH should have worked together like adults to make it memorable. This was about Motown and Berry, not them.


Screw that! Diana Ross was wrong and you see what she got for it!

[ejluther]

You could be right. We do have a certain creep quotient here. LOL!!!

I can assure you I'm not a creep and indeed am an authentic new poster - sorry I haven't had time to post about more topics. I just figured this was the place to ask about the US Magazine coverage from 1983 so I joined to do so and I still don't think that's a bad question to ask as I am not taking sides. I’ve always tried to concentrate on the music and performances themselves – sure, I’ve read all the books and all the different viewpoints and that can be interesting and fun but I believe the truth is that these three young women found themselves in an overwhelming world of success that took its toll on each of them in very different ways.

[marv2]

Motown and Berry WAS all about The Supremes, to me and millions of fans worldwide,which is the way Gordy wanted it; he created the monster

He had totally created a monster and then it turned on him........

[marv2]

I can assure you I'm not a creep and indeed am an authentic new poster - sorry I haven't had time to post about more topics. I just figured this was the place to ask about the US Magazine coverage from 1983 so I joined to do so and I still don't think that's a bad question to ask as I am not taking sides. I’ve always tried to concentrate on the music and performances themselves – sure, I’ve read all the books and all the different viewpoints and that can be interesting and fun but I believe the truth is that these three young women found themselves in an overwhelming world of success that took its toll on each of them in very different ways.


I am not referring to you in particular. I am making a statement in general as we have had our share of creeps in the past here at least the 9 years I have been a member. Thanks.

[marv2]

I can assure you I'm not a creep and indeed am an authentic new poster - sorry I haven't had time to post about more topics. I just figured this was the place to ask about the US Magazine coverage from 1983 so I joined to do so and I still don't think that's a bad question to ask as I am not taking sides. I’ve always tried to concentrate on the music and performances themselves – sure, I’ve read all the books and all the different viewpoints and that can be interesting and fun but I believe the truth is that these three young women found themselves in an overwhelming world of success that took its toll on each of them in very different ways.


Diana Ross pushed Mary Wilson onstage at Motown 25.

[jobeterob]

I don't think there is anything wrong with asking the question, posting the thread etc.

The problem, as Mary has pointedly pointed out, is some fans; they know who they are; she has told them to stop. And they go........."but, it's not me............"

And it is them.

[dianesfan_1965]

I don't think there is anything wrong with asking the question, posting the thread etc.

The problem, as Mary has pointedly pointed out, is some fans; they know who they are; she has told them to stop. And they go........."but, it's not me............"

And it is them.

Yup! You said it!

[dianesfan_1965]

Yeah, a couple of friends of mine that were there saw it too, so I know it happened.

Well, my post was a joke. But I do recall reading the LA Times when I was in college in LA about the taping of M-25. My point is that people STILL keep talking shit about what happened like it takes place in history above the killing of the Jews in WW2 and 9/11.

People need to move the fuck on, like Mary has asked.

[marv2]

Well, my post was a joke. But I do recall reading the LA Times when I was in college in LA about the taping of M-25. My point is that people STILL keep talking shit about what happened like it takes place in history above the killing of the Jews in WW2 and 9/11.

People need to move the fuck on, like Mary has asked.

I'm not moving on. Go tell whoever you like!

[ejluther]

I didn't realize what trouble I was stirring up - I was just curious about that reported photo and what it showed and I appreciate reese filling me in. In an attempt to change the topic, I did just buy a fun piece of Supremes memorabilia on eBay recently - a wrapper from the bread that bore their name [[I paid a lot less than $300 for it though):
http://jimdye.tumblr.com/post/40880762/the-supremes-special-formula-white-bread-you-can

I know there's obvious irony in the type of bread but it's also kind of campy and fun.

[luke]

Very true Marv. Nelson George a highly respected music writer reported that Diana pushed Mary and knocked her mic down. Its in his book Where Did Our Love Go. Fascinating how some try to minimize it. People saw a side of Diana that Berry had protected the public from. Her career has never fully recovered. Diana came late, prevening a full rehersal. She did not follow script and ran out to dance with Adam Ant--Mary wore a red dress and praised Flo-terrible lol!

[atcsm]

Diana Ross pushed Mary Wilson onstage at Motown 25.
and it must be true since you said it.......like the Halo award.

[atcsm]

Screw that! Diana Ross was wrong and you see what she got for it!
Great reviews for this latest leg of her tour.........

[jobeterob]

A Kennedy Centre Honour? The highest award America gives to a civilian?

Or the Soul Train Lifetime Achievement Award?

None of them there HaLO things from that dude though........

[marv2]

and it must be true since you said it.......like the Halo award.

Look ADC or whatever. It's true because there were approx. 4,000 eyewitnesses in the audience that night. You believe in the tooth fairym, but find it impossible to believe Diana Ross shoved Mary Wilson onstage, in front of a live audience? Go figga! LOL!

[marv2]

Great reviews for this latest leg of her tour.........

No! Spinning ain't gone help recover these last 25 -30 years of nuthin' honey! LOL!

[marv2]

A Kennedy Centre Honour? The highest award America gives to a civilian?

Or the Soul Train Lifetime Achievement Award?

None of them there HaLO things from that dude though........

Oh please Rob. She'll give the handful of awards back just to have a hit record. She'd kill have just ONE Grammy........, but alas hehehehehehe!

[marv2]

Very true Marv. Nelson George a highly respected music writer reported that Diana pushed Mary and knocked her mic down. Its in his book Where Did Our Love Go. Fascinating how some try to minimize it. People saw a side of Diana that Berry had protected the public from. Her career has never fully recovered. Diana came late, prevening a full rehersal. She did not follow script and ran out to dance with Adam Ant--Mary wore a red dress and praised Flo-terrible lol!

Nelson George detailed the situation perfectly! All I know is that they did not send Smokey Robinson out on stage to protect Mary Wilson! LOL!

[marv2]

Great reviews for this latest leg of her tour.........


She should try to be more like Freda Payne. Keep up with times in her appearance especially. Maybe even go overseas to make a record like Freda did with Cliff Richards recently. Ross constantly touring of the U.S. is just one more Oldies act . Maybe she could do something with Chubby Checker or Davey Jones of the Monkees to make herself interesting to the public again. I don't know. Just some thoughts.

[smark21]

She should try to be more like Freda Payne. Keep up with times in her appearance especially. Maybe even go overseas to make a record like Freda did with Cliff Richards recently. Ross constantly touring of the U.S. is just one more Oldies act . Maybe she could do something with Chubby Checker or Davey Jones of the Monkees to make herself interesting to the public again. I don't know. Just some thoughts.

Poor Diane.

[marv2]

I wonder if she's ordered her copy of "Hype and Soul" yet?

[RossHolloway]

Does anyone remember that a month ago Mary Wilson asked people to stop the petty chat? And if they couldn't, to leave her out of it.

A shame she is ignored again.

Well some people like to pounce on any topic that will stir the pot between Diana Ross and Mary Wilson. I've never understood how any person could hate either Diana or Mary yet still love the Supremes. I'm still pretty amazed at the glee some people get from trying to bash either of these two Icons, especially Diana Ross. It's as if she has personally spit in their ice tea or something. The fact remains that these two women have been in show business for over 50 years and are still performing and are in demand today. They are both two beautiful and talented women who I just wish people would just sit back and enjoy and appreciate. Diana Ross has been one of the most successful women in popular music in this past half century. This is not my opinion this is a fact. No amount of bickering or catfighting or name calling will change this fact. Diana Ross is and will remain a woman who is known and loved around the world. Same for Mary Wilson. As I speculated yesterday, the original poster of this thread knew exactly what they were doing to stir the pot. We really shouldn't feed the trolls on this site and there are some pretty obvious ones here TWO.

[Penny]

The train has left the station!

Penny:cool:

[simplysupreme]

She should try to be more like Freda Payne. Keep up with times in her appearance especially. Maybe even go overseas to make a record like Freda did with Cliff Richards recently. Ross constantly touring of the U.S. is just one more Oldies act . Maybe she could do something with Chubby Checker or Davey Jones of the Monkees to make herself interesting to the public again. I don't know. Just some thoughts.

LOL When she does tour overseas, you have said it's because no one in the US cares to see her. Now that she's on the 4th successful leg of this tour, you say she should go overseas! Get your 'critiques' straight, bruh! hehehehe

[dianesfan_1965]

She should try to be more like Freda Payne. Keep up with times in her appearance especially. Maybe even go overseas to make a record like Freda did with Cliff Richards recently. Ross constantly touring of the U.S. is just one more Oldies act . Maybe she could do something with Chubby Checker or Davey Jones of the Monkees to make herself interesting to the public again. I don't know. Just some thoughts.


What a load of shit.

[honest man]

HA mate you said what i was thinking,the woman is a LIVING LEGEND,Also she is THE BOSS,We will never get another like her in our lifetime, cheers.

[dianesfan_1965]

LOL When she does tour overseas, you have said it's because no one in the US cares to see her. Now that she's on the 4th successful leg of this tour, you say she should go overseas! Get your 'critiques' straight, bruh! hehehehe

hehehehehehehe!! LOL!

[marv2]

LOL When she does tour overseas, you have said it's because no one in the US cares to see her. Now that she's on the 4th successful leg of this tour, you say she should go overseas! Get your 'critiques' straight, bruh! hehehehe

Are you kidding me? She is now pretty much just a "cult artist". There are people that travel around just to see her show multiple times, so of course there are people that are interested in seeing her. It's just that it is the same people. Like the Grateful Dead had their cult following, Diane has hers. They did great business out of that finite, limited crowd for years. So could she. When I said maybe she could go overseas, you left off the rest of what I said [[you and buddies have a habit of doing that for some strange reason...) I said to record since apparently no one is interested in recording her here in the United States. She's whined about that fact several times on television over years. That's all.

[marv2]

hehehehehehehe!! LOL!


You did it backwards! LOL!!!

[RossHolloway]

Unless you gave birth to her or know her on a personal level, the name is Diana. I think it's obnoxious when people spell her name Diane. As if you're just that familiar and close to her or sang background for her. It's funny people don't go around spelling Marvin Gaye's last name Gay or go about calling Stevie Wonder by the name his parents actually gave him. Stop being such a douche.

[dianesfan_1965]

Unless you gave birth to her or know her on a personal level, the name is Diana. I think it's obnoxious when people spell her name Diane. As if you're just that familiar and close to her or sang background for her. It's funny people don't go around spelling Marvin Gaye's last name Gay or go about calling Stevie Wonder by the name his parents actually gave him. Stop being such a douche.


hehehehehehehe!

[dianesfan_1965]

She is now pretty just a "cult artist".

That's a new one. What do you do other than talk shit about Diana Ross on the internet all the time?

[marv2]

Unless you gave birth to her or know her on a personal level, the name is Diana. I think it's obnoxious when people spell her name Diane. As if you're just that familiar and close to her or sang background for her. It's funny people don't go around spelling Marvin Gaye's last name Gay or go about calling Stevie Wonder by the name his parents actually gave him. Stop being such a douche.



I've called Stevie Wonder "Steveland" to his face and he did not have any problem whatsoever. You do not know if I do or don't know Diane on a personal level and I will keep it like that! Douche? Whatever that means......backatcha!

[RossHolloway]

That's a new one. What do you do other than talk shit about Diana Ross on the internet all the time?

*THIS* He does have a way of stinking up every thread that he post in. He's just a Ross HATER. And to quote the great philosopher and comic genius Katt Williams - "Haters are just doing their job".

[marv2]

That's a new one. What do you do other than talk shit about Diana Ross on the internet all the time?

I don't know you well enough to talk to you that way! LOL!!!

[RossHolloway]

I've called Stevie Wonder "Steveland" to his face and he did not have any problem whatsoever. You do not know if I do or don't know Diane on a personal level and I will keep it like that! Douche? Whatever that means......backatcha!


I'd bet good money you don't know Diana Ross, and would not call her Diane too her face and your credibility on this site is about on the same level as a tea bagger saying it's not about Obama's skin color.

[marv2]

*THIS* He does have a way of stinking up every thread that he post in. He's just a Ross HATER. And to quote the great philosopher and comic genius Katt Williams - "Haters are just doing their job".


Katt Williams who Steve Harvey had to jack up in Detroit New Years Eve 2009? LOL! I don't hate Diane at all. You're just very overly sensitive about this woman.

[marv2]

I'd bet good money you don't know Diana Ross, and would not call her Diane too her face and your credibility on this site is about on the same level as a tea bagger saying it's not about Obama's skin color.


You can bet all you want. I am not telling who I know and who I don't. Diane can't whip me, not even when she was young. I do know for sure that I do not know you!

[RossHolloway]

You can bet all you want. I am not telling who I know and who I don't. Diane can't whip me, not even when she was young. I do know for sure that I do not know you!

Personally I could give a rats ass about who you do and do not know. Just keep doing your job HATER, while Diana Ross keeps counting her millions and singing her songs all over the world. LOL.

[simplysupreme]

Are you kidding me? She is now pretty just a "cult artist". There are people that travel around just to her show multiple times, so of course there are people that are interested in seeing her. It's just that it is the same people. Like the Grateful Dead had their cult following, Diane has hers. They did great business out of that finite, limited crowd for years. So could she. When I said maybe she could go overseas, you left off the rest of what I said [[you and buddies have a habit of doing that for some strange reason...) I said to record since apparently no one is interested in recording her here in the United States. She's whined about that fact several times on television over years. That's all.

Are you kidding ME? Do you really believe it is the same couple of thousand people showing up to Diana's shows each night? Sure, there's a small group who travel to multiple dates. Most veteran artists have that. Didn't you travel to see Mary at one time? As far as going overseas to record "since apparently no one is interested in recording her here in the United States." Name 3 black female artists near the age of 70 who consistently release recorded material in the US?

[marv2]

Personally I could give a rats ass about who you do and do not know. Just keep doing your job HATER, while Diana Ross keeps counting her millions and singing her songs all over the world. LOL.


She ain't counting no millions. Maybe in that dreamy World you live in where folks never get old and they never die........


Oh another thing. She did not write even one of the songs she sings.

[dianesfan_1965]

*THIS* He does have a way of stinking up every thread that he post in. He's just a Ross HATER. And to quote the great philosopher and comic genius Katt Williams - "Haters are just doing their job".

and from the looks of things is "protected" around here.

[dianesfan_1965]

She ain't counting no millions. Maybe in that dreamy World you live in where folks never get old and they never die........


Oh another thing. She did not write even one of the songs she sings.

So you have an inside scoop on Diana Ross' financial situation? And as for the dumb ass comment about her not writing the song she sings? So what? They are still her songs. Would you say "That's Life" is NOT a Frank Sinatra song? How about "Midnight Train to Georgia", is that NOT a Gladys Knight and the Pips song?

[simplysupreme]

and from the looks of things is "protected" around here.

say it, say it, again!

[dianesfan_1965]

Are you kidding ME? Do you really believe it is the same couple of thousand people showing up to Diana's shows each night? Sure, there's a small group who travel to multiple dates. Most veteran artists have that. Didn't you travel to see Mary at one time? As far as going overseas to record "since apparently no one is interested in recording her here in the United States." Name 3 black female artists near the age of 70 who consistently release recorded material in the US?

Oh come now, you haven't seen Air Ross 1? It's a 777 that fly all over the world?

[simplysupreme]

Oh come now, you haven't seen Air Ross 1? It's a 777 that fly all over the world?

LOL hehehehehehe

[marv2]

LOL hehehehehehe


You're doing it backwards! It's : hehehehehehehe.......! LOL!!!!

Now you, try it again. LOL!!!

[luke]

Diana can be a very talented and charismatic performer but to see her in 10 gowns or more singin I Will Survive and Aint No Mt High Enough does seem stale. Some serious change needed.

[Jimi LaLumia]

I will go to see that every time she comes around...and I do...Radio City was breath taking not too long ago!!

[simplysupreme]

Diana can be a very talented and charismatic performer but to see her in 10 gowns or more singin I Will Survive and Aint No Mt High Enough does seem stale. Some serious change needed.


Simple. Then don't go see her. I'll ask you a question I asked you once before. Name 3 women in Diana's age range that have made this "serious change"?

[smark21]

Simple. Then don't go see her. I'll ask you a question I asked you once before. Name 3 women in Diana's age range that have made this "serious change"?

Well Aretha Franklin, Bettye LaVette and Mavis Staples have all released new albums in the past year. And Mavis Staples hooked up with the frontman for Wilco and crafted an Indie Rock influenced update to her sound. But none of their record and release on a consistent basis. I don't think Ross has much interest in recording a new album and doing a big tour. She's winding down, having a victory lap with this extended tour and seems to be enjoying herself--she has nothing left to prove.

[Jimi LaLumia]

actually, she is wisely reconnecting with her audience FIRST...after the tour would be the ideal time to release a new CD/download album/DVD of the tour, or whatever..

[marv2]

Diana can be a very talented and charismatic performer but to see her in 10 gowns or more singin I Will Survive and Aint No Mt High Enough does seem stale. Some serious change needed.



Luke! Please! There are evidently people that pay good money to see that, over and over and over again! LOL! oh LOL!!!!

[marv2]

I will go to see that every time she comes around...and I do...Radio City was breath taking not too long ago!!

Jimi, that's good and you should if that is what you enjoy. I laugh because of the way Luke makes some things sound, it's just funny to me. But if you like that type of show by all means always go!

Marv

[marv2]

Simple. Then don't go see her. I'll ask you a question I asked you once before. Name 3 women in Diana's age range that have made this "serious change"?


But she wasn't always her age! She's been doing the same act for nearly 30 years now! LOL!!!!

[marv2]

Well Aretha Franklin, Bettye LaVette and Mavis Staples have all released new albums in the past year. And Mavis Staples hooked up with the frontman for Wilco and crafted an Indie Rock influenced update to her sound. But none of their record and release on a consistent basis. I don't think Ross has much interest in recording a new album and doing a big tour. She's winding down, having a victory lap with this extended tour and seems to be enjoying herself--she has nothing left to prove.


...and don't forget Mary Wilson who just happens to be the same age as Diana Ross and she has a fresh new sounding recording out called "Life's Been Good to Me"! She doesn't get stale because she has crafted 3 seperate shows that are targeted to different audiences!

[simplysupreme]

But she wasn't always her age! She's been doing the same act for nearly 30 years now! LOL!!!!

As have most artists who have been out there as long. For the most part, the changes come when new songs are added to promote new product. You forgot the hehehehehe!

[ejluther]

As I speculated yesterday, the original poster of this thread knew exactly what they were doing to stir the pot. We really shouldn't feed the trolls on this site and there are some pretty obvious ones here TWO.
For pete's sake, I simply asked a question on a MOTOWN message board about a Supremes photo I'd read a lot about but never actually seen. That's all. I'm hardly trolling as my actual posts will attest. And what's with the "TWO"? Some sort of inside joke?

[marv2]

For pete's sake, I simply asked a question on a MOTOWN message board about a Supremes photo I'd read a lot about but never actually seen. That's all. I'm hardly trolling as my actual posts will attest. And what's with the "TWO"? Some sort of inside joke?


Yeah, BUT! You started off with "I understand there's a MOTOWN at 50 TV special in the works so dare we even dream of another attempt at a televised Supremes reunion?"

Now where'd you hear that ? I don't usually agree with Rossholloway, but you do seem more than a little suspect starting this thread.

Marv

[ejluther]

Yeah, BUT! You started off with "I understand there's a MOTOWN at 50 TV special in the works so dare we even dream of another attempt at a televised Supremes reunion?"

Now where'd you hear that ? I don't usually agree with Rossholloway, but you do seem more than a little suspect starting this thread.

Marv
What do you mean where did I hear that? About a possible MOTOWN at 50 TV special? I don't remember - maybe somewhere on these boards? And what's wrong with wanting a successful reunion? I'd love that because I love The Supremes and consider myself a big fan. Regardless, I get it now and won't be asking any more questions about The Supremes that might cause problems. Which I suppose means asking very few questions at all, but that's fine. As I said before, I appreciate reese answering the question I actually asked. Now I know.

[milven]

Yeah, BUT! You started off with "I understand there's a MOTOWN at 50 TV special in the works so dare we even dream of another attempt at a televised Supremes reunion?"

Now where'd you hear that ? I don't usually agree with Rossholloway, but you do seem more than a little suspect starting this thread.

Marv

I heard about a Motown 50 special here a few years ago in a post by you. You said that you had inside info but couldn't go into detail. Some people called you on it and asked you to provide further info, but you ignored the posts. It caused a lot of drama on the board. Perhaps this new member heard it from you.

But as far as a Motown 50 TV, I think that ship has passed. There was a great Stax documentary on PBS a few years ago. It would be great to see something similar about Motown.

[RossHolloway]

She ain't counting no millions. Maybe in that dreamy World you live in where folks never get old and they never die........


Oh another thing. She did not write even one of the songs she sings.

Just keep on hatin dude... the more you type and post the more ridiculious you look. You lack any and all credibility. Isn't there a bridge close by where you could be trolling under?

[RossHolloway]

I heard about a Motown 50 special here a few years ago in a post by you. You said that you had inside info but couldn't go into detail. Some people called you on it and asked you to provide further info, but you ignored the posts. It caused a lot of drama on the board. Perhaps this new member heard it from you.

But as far as a Motown 50 TV, I think that ship has passed. There was a great Stax documentary on PBS a few years ago. It would be great to see something similar about Motown.

Marv2 is just an out and out troll, pot stirrer, hater and liar. Just do your best to not feed the trolls and just ignore his posts.

[Roberta75]

You can bet all you want. I am not telling who I know and who I don't. Diane can't whip me, not even when she was young. I do know for sure that I do not know you!

"Diane can't whip me"

Oh for goodness sake. What a childish thing to say.

[Roberta75]

LOL When she does tour overseas, you have said it's because no one in the US cares to see her. Now that she's on the 4th successful leg of this tour, you say she should go overseas!

LOL. You are 100% correct simplysupreme. He is consumed by Diana Ross 24/7.

[marv2]

What do you mean where did I hear that? About a possible MOTOWN at 50 TV special? I don't remember - maybe somewhere on these boards? And what's wrong with wanting a successful reunion? I'd love that because I love The Supremes and consider myself a big fan. Regardless, I get it now and won't be asking any more questions about The Supremes that might cause problems. Which I suppose means asking very few questions at all, but that's fine. As I said before, I appreciate reese answering the question I actually asked. Now I know.


You read English! Stop playing! Ask yourself all of those made up questions you just posted!

[marv2]

Marv2 is just an out and out troll, pot stirrer, hater and liar. Just do your best to not feed the trolls and just ignore his posts.


And you are an out and out A -hole! Dishonest individual .

[marv2]

"Diane can't whip me"

Oh for goodness sake. What a childish thing to say.


She can't ! Ask her! LOL!!!!

[marv2]

I heard about a Motown 50 special here a few years ago in a post by you. You said that you had inside info but couldn't go into detail. Some people called you on it and asked you to provide further info, but you ignored the posts. It caused a lot of drama on the board. Perhaps this new member heard it from you.

But as far as a Motown 50 TV, I think that ship has passed. There was a great Stax documentary on PBS a few years ago. It would be great to see something similar about Motown.


That is not true at all. I never said nothing about any inside info. There was an AHole called Jonc that mentioned that daily for a year. We all concluded that he had "issues" and was stuck on mentioning something he knew nothing about. I never made any formal or informal announcement. You are confused on this topic. Find it?

[milven]

That is not true at all. I never said nothing about any inside info. There was an AHole called Jonc that mentioned that daily for a year. We all concluded that he had "issues" and was stuck on mentioning something he knew nothing about. I never made any formal or informal announcement. You are confused on this topic. Find it?

I remember your post and the thread vividly. Paraphrasing, you mentioned a Motown 50 special, you had inside info about it but were not at liberty to say more about it but soon would. You never did say, and Jonc called you on it, then went excessive and and called you out about it in other threads. You never once replied to him by providing further info. there never was any kind of a Motown 50 Special, and that provoked him even more to mock you. The board suffered for it. Eventually, Ralph came in and probably deleted the thread. He may have deleted you and Jonc too because both of you stopped posting. Eventually you came back as Marv2.

Besides that thread, most of us on this board were speculating about a Motown 50 Special and other ways that the event could be celebrated. Motown's 50th Anniversary came and went. Most of us were disappointed by the lack of promotion for something that Motown fans thought would be a major event.

[jobeterob]

LOL..........I found I had to check in to see what was happening on these great threads and I see on the home page where it highlights posts that there is something about "we ALL concluded he had issues"...............LOL.

Not.

He was just one of many, "on patrol"!

I kind of enjoy the crazy threads where we "out" the nuts and rehash something only 12 people care about and hardly anybody outside a few hundred people know anything about.

Mary is looking very beautiful on that Lena Horne show page and sounds good; but what's up with all the weight gain? I've never seen her look so heavy. Marv, can you ask her about that? I can recommend some good interval training drills.

[Roberta75]

Mary is looking very beautiful on that Lena Horne show page and sounds good; but what's up with all the weight gain? I've never seen her look so heavy. Marv, can you ask her about that? I can recommend some good interval training drills.

That isn't kind jobeterob besides that photo of Mary from Sophisticated Ladies is almost 10 years old. All former Supremes have gained some weight in their golden years and there is nothing wrong with that. They have earned the right to enjoy their meals without worrying about gaining a few pounds.

Not very gentlemanly of you to criticize a lady's weight.

Roberta

[marv2]

I remember your post and the thread vividly. Paraphrasing, you mentioned a Motown 50 special, you had inside info about it but were not at liberty to say more about it but soon would. You never did say, and Jonc called you on it, then went excessive and and called you out about it in other threads. You never once replied to him by providing further info. there never was any kind of a Motown 50 Special, and that provoked him even more to mock you. The board suffered for it. Eventually, Ralph came in and probably deleted the thread. He may have deleted you and Jonc too because both of you stopped posting. Eventually you came back as Marv2.

Besides that thread, most of us on this board were speculating about a Motown 50 Special and other ways that the event could be celebrated. Motown's 50th Anniversary came and went. Most of us were disappointed by the lack of promotion for something that Motown fans thought would be a major event.


Nah, what it was and see you don't know what you are talking about. In July 2009 on the old forum I was talking to Juicefree when he commented that it would nice if there were some form of televised commoration of Motown Records 50th Anniversary. I responded to him ONCE that there was something in the works. We did not have private messaging then or I would have responded to him that way. Still this individual with issues named Jonc went on and on for like a year and a half "growing" this story in hopes that I was lying. It was none of his business to begin with, but I explained to him that I was not authorized to discuss it. Do you also remember that? Yet he persisted until he got kicked out of here and came back under several different aliases.


Nah I never stopped posting. Look at my total number of posts across from my name ....8,000 plus . Milven, you don't know what you are talking about. This "most of us" that you keep representing, translates into a handful guys that are here mainly to disrupt and argue to mess up the forum. The majority of forum members NEVER asked me once about it after I made it clear that I was not at liberty to discuss it.[[and I am not going to discuss it now). There are members here that know about it, so anyone that doesn't didn't need to because they had no involvement. You can keep on with that "most of us" charade if want to, because "most of the forum" already know that is bogus. I cannot believe I typing all of this, but I did not want to completely ignore you. However, if you choose to continue along this line of questioning after I post this, you will be ignore as it has nothing to do with the subject of this or any other thread on the forum..........whew!

Marv

[marv2]

LOL..........I found I had to check in to see what was happening on these great threads and I see on the home page where it highlights posts that there is something about "we ALL concluded he had issues"...............LOL.

Not.

He was just one of many, "on patrol"!

I kind of enjoy the crazy threads where we "out" the nuts and rehash something only 12 people care about and hardly anybody outside a few hundred people know anything about.

Mary is looking very beautiful on that Lena Horne show page and sounds good; but what's up with all the weight gain? I've never seen her look so heavy. Marv, can you ask her about that? I can recommend some good interval training drills.

Well he did/does have issues. I don't think it is funny. That dude needed help. Stalking is not what I consider normal behavior.

Mary had picked up some weight while on that U.K. Tour last winter. Seeing her at the end of July, she has lost all of it and then some. She is her usual, slim, trim gorgeous self again. Thanks but she is into yoga.

[milven]

..... Milven, you don't know what you are talking about. This "most of us" that you keep representing, translates into a handful guys that are here mainly to disrupt and argue to mess up the forum.... You can keep on with that "most of us" charade if want to, because "most of the forum" already know that is bogus...
Marv
Wow, Marv, in another thread you thanked me for making phone calls and coming to your defense about an award that Mary won. In this thread you tell me keep saying that I don't know what I am talking about. It kinda comes across in print as if you are calling me a stupid idiot. I hope your implication is not that.

I never professed to represent anyone in my "most of us" comment. That comment had nothing to do with you and Jonc. What I was attempting to say was that most of us on this board [[and other Motown fans throughout the world) were hoping for a spectacular Motown 50 Celebration. We were disappointed. Perhaps my post wasn't clear because I am a stupid idiot.
I can insult me if I want to. You shouldn't.

[marv2]

Wow, Marv, in another thread you thanked me for making phone calls and coming to your defense about an award that Mary won. In this thread you tell me keep saying that I don't know what I am talking about. It kinda comes across in print as if you are calling me a stupid idiot. I hope your implication is not that.

I never professed to represent anyone in my "most of us" comment. That comment had nothing to do with you and Jonc. What I was attempting to say was that most of us on this board [[and other Motown fans throughout the world) were hoping for a spectacular Motown 50 Celebration. We were disappointed. Perhaps my post wasn't clear because I am a stupid idiot.
I can insult me if I want to. You shouldn't.

Milven, I am not calling you a stupid idiot. But if you believe that I am inferring that, I apologize that was not my intent.

[milven]

Thank you Marv. Now lets move on

[ejluther]

You read English! Stop playing! Ask yourself all of those made up questions you just posted!
Well, asking myself would certainly be a more pleasant experience than asking someone like you. Still, if you notice me having the nerve to ask other Supremes-related questions elsewhere on this forum, marv2, please just ignore me. Please.