OmegaFalcon5
06-02-2023, 06:43 PM
Hello, this is my first post here so forgive me if I get confused on some of the rules. I'm 24 years old and I've been a Temptations for as long as I can remember. I've been dropping by in the community for a while now, specifically to get more information on the now defuct Mowtown Unreleased series. The amount of helpful information and knowledge you all seemed to have is what inspired me to make an account and to start this thread.
I was recently listening to the Emperors of Soul Box Set released in 1994. I've had it for a few years but never really gave it a good listen to outside of ripping some of the harder to find tracks [[at the time, "Blueprint for Love" and "My Kind of Woman"). Immediatley I noticed that there are a fair bit of tracks in the box set that while not listed as anything special, contain differences from their original or commonly released versions. I'm going under the assumption that these are the "Single Versions" of those songs and not the LP versions. To note I'm not talking about trimmed or edited versions of songs like "In A Lifetime", "Who Are You", and "Keep Holding On" which are just shorter cuts of the LP versions. I'm referring to tracks that have significant differences from their more commonly heard versions. Big examples of this on the box set are "A Song For You" [[features a spoken intro by Dennis Edwards), "Do You Really Love Your Baby" [[Which appears to be the "Radio Edit" of the Club Remix [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRKRdr_L6ro)), and "Look What You Started" [[Which has a more emphasized drum beat and even different vocals). All of this kinda got me thinking about what else could be out there. I'd already been searching for rare and unreleased versions of songs, as well as alternate takes. My goal is to find as many as possible and collect them for archival purposes and also put them out there on something like YouTube for everyone to enjoy. Best case scenario maybe we could get an official digital release of all these hidden gems similar to what happened with the "Emperors of Soul: The Rarities" Digital Release. I'm hoping that with this community's help, we can find some of these tracks and get them ripped and preserved. I plan at some point to find and purchase what Vinyls I can and find a service that can can rip them in high quality. I've tried doing it myself but I never turns out too well. Below is a list of everything I've discovered so far. I'll update these lists as more information is found.
This is a list of all of the tracks I've discovered so far:
Always [[Otis Williams & The Distants) [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/88elsHMhKUY/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEcCOgCEMoBSFXyq4qpAw4IARUAAIhCGAFwAcABBg==&rs=AOn4CLCPR5dTVOyxClKDwOItwRYghmJlLQ) - B side to Come On
Positively Absolutelty Right [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V0by-I-nOQ&pp=ygUldGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHBvc2l0aXZlbHkgYWJzb2x 1dGVseQ%3D%3D)
Part Time Lover [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsRDTWvEBwc&pp=ygUfdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHBhcnQgdGltZSBsb3Zlcg% 3D%3D)
What's Easy For Two [[Is Hard For One) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNC8mRyVuU4)
You'll Lose A Precious Love [[Extended Stereo Mix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNMhCFfXZKw&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=23&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
There's A Definite Change In You [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwmMDEZJO0g)
Come Back My Love [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2afOFjeUGs)
[Talkin' Bout] Nobody But My Baby [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qa7KnUijww&pp=ygUudGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHRhbGtpbiBib3V0IG5vYm9 keSBidXQgbXkgYmFieQ%3D%3D)
You Didn't Show Girl [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdlzeGowBHM&pp=ygUkdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHlvdSBkaWRuJ3Qgc2hvdyB naXJs)
My Smile is Just A Frown [[Turned Upside Down) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a318O_7lQ8M&pp=ygUodGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIG15IHNtaWxlIGlzIGp1c3Q gYSBmcm93bg%3D%3D)
Give It Up [[1999 Gettin' Ready Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZhKnT6geT0&pp=ygUadGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGdpdmUgaXQgdXA%3D)
The Man Who Don't Believe In Love [[1999 Gettin' Ready Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E90H3-5I85w)
Ain't To Proud To Beg [[Extended Steroe String Mix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeVd9DjlJ4&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=27&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
I'd Rather Forget [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUDyXJcT4I)
That's Life [[Alternate Version/Single Version?) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI6R4sUMp5M&pp=ygUbdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHRoYXQncyBsaWZl)
I Wish It Would Rain [[Alternate Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZgR3vIdpT4)- This is a stereo version of the song without the special effects
Drifting Away w/ Chaka Khan - From the vaulted 3rd Atlantic album? There a currently no links to this one. However, I have a low quality MP3 of the song that was breifly published on YouTube a long time ago.
Rhythm of Life w/ Diana Ross and the Supremes [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV8K0TGbywY&pp=ygUfdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHJoeXRobSBvZiBsaWZlIA% 3D%3D)
Mother Nature [[Single Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfiNFnLAhtQ)
Zoom [[Single Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM67qAwofZs) - Discord notes that there are maybe 3-4 different edits of this song with different lengths
Take Me Away [[1980, Single from Motion Picture Loving Couples [[Note: While this one can be found on YouTube, there is currently no high quality rip of this song.)
There's More Where That Came From [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uarnn8wauuo) [[Extended Version) [[B side to Take Me Away) - The 3:50 cut version of this track does not have a good quality rip
My Love is True/ Sail Away [[Live in Santa Barbra) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3sHs2dH5YI&t=173s)
Hang w/ Four Tops [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbr9caazR2o&pp=ygUedGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGhhbmcgZm91ciB0b3Bz)
All I Want From You [[12" Remix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxXKKtchW1M&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=20&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
Get Ready 1990 [[Extended Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHGaLtCS1OI&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=16&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB) - Note: There is an extended version of the song that exists but I'm unsure if this is the official version
Shake Your Paw [[From "Garfield: Am I Cool or What" Soundtrack) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N85uLCubEfM)
Treat Her Like A Lady [[M+M Club Remix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5k3KoWFQXk&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=12&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
Broken Pieces [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDiN6jon2M&pp=ygUddGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGJyb2tlbiBwaWVjZXM%3D)
A Toast to My Friend [[From Ali Woodsons' "Ali Woodson and Friends' Album) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFtgn-wQwo&pp=ygUjdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIEEgdGFzdCB0byBteSBmcml lbmQ%3D)
I'll Always Love You [[From Roger Smith's "360" Album) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMEJsnlSh6o&pp=ygUldGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGknbGwgYWx3YXlzIGxvdmU geW91IA%3D%3D)
If You Love Somebody [[Set Them Free) - Bonus track on the Back to Front Album [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJK6e1L00NM&pp=ygUjdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGlmIHlvdSBsb3ZlIHNvbWV vbmU%3D)
Notable Album Releases:
Emperors of Soul Box Set
Lost & Found
Gold
Love Songs
Mowtown Unreleased Series
Emperors of Soul: The Rarities
List of tracks that have been found but not "released":
I'm Fascinated [[Extended Version) - Released as a single it's 1:42 longer than the LP Release
Get Ready 1990 [[Pop Edit)
All I Want From You [[12" Radio Edit)
All I Want From You [[Dub Mix)
One Step At A Time [[Remix)
Think For Yourself [[Single Version) - 1:33 seconds shorter than LP version
Miss Busy Body [[Get Your Body Busy) [[Extended Version)
Miss Busy Body [[Get Your Body Busy) Part 2
Broken Pieces [[Radio Edit)
Broken Pieces [[No Monologue) - This version is almost 2min short than the "LP" Version and Radio Edit
This Is My Promise [[Radio Edit)
I'm also hoping to find a complete copy of the Temptations Chicago 1979 Soundstage performance that can be restored into good quality.
List of unconfimred tracks
Up The Creek [[Without A Paddle) - Shorter single version, There's no confimation on any difference between this version and LP version
Mystic Woman [[Love On Me) [[Single Version) - Another shorter release w/ No known differences other than the timestamp
Since I Lost My Baby Rerecorded alternate vocals - Apparently there's a rerecorded version of Since I Lost My Baby without David Ruffin. I talked to the guy who claimed to have discovered it but he could no longer find it when I asked about.
Thanks to anyone and everyone who can help me on this endeavour!
Too Long, Didn't Read - I'm compliling a list of hard to find Remixes/Alternate Versions/Alternate Single Versions/Unreleased songs from The Temptations in hopes of publishing High Quality versions of these tracks [[unofficially) and would like to get this community's help.
I was recently listening to the Emperors of Soul Box Set released in 1994. I've had it for a few years but never really gave it a good listen to outside of ripping some of the harder to find tracks [[at the time, "Blueprint for Love" and "My Kind of Woman"). Immediatley I noticed that there are a fair bit of tracks in the box set that while not listed as anything special, contain differences from their original or commonly released versions. I'm going under the assumption that these are the "Single Versions" of those songs and not the LP versions. To note I'm not talking about trimmed or edited versions of songs like "In A Lifetime", "Who Are You", and "Keep Holding On" which are just shorter cuts of the LP versions. I'm referring to tracks that have significant differences from their more commonly heard versions. Big examples of this on the box set are "A Song For You" [[features a spoken intro by Dennis Edwards), "Do You Really Love Your Baby" [[Which appears to be the "Radio Edit" of the Club Remix [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRKRdr_L6ro)), and "Look What You Started" [[Which has a more emphasized drum beat and even different vocals). All of this kinda got me thinking about what else could be out there. I'd already been searching for rare and unreleased versions of songs, as well as alternate takes. My goal is to find as many as possible and collect them for archival purposes and also put them out there on something like YouTube for everyone to enjoy. Best case scenario maybe we could get an official digital release of all these hidden gems similar to what happened with the "Emperors of Soul: The Rarities" Digital Release. I'm hoping that with this community's help, we can find some of these tracks and get them ripped and preserved. I plan at some point to find and purchase what Vinyls I can and find a service that can can rip them in high quality. I've tried doing it myself but I never turns out too well. Below is a list of everything I've discovered so far. I'll update these lists as more information is found.
This is a list of all of the tracks I've discovered so far:
Always [[Otis Williams & The Distants) [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/88elsHMhKUY/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEcCOgCEMoBSFXyq4qpAw4IARUAAIhCGAFwAcABBg==&rs=AOn4CLCPR5dTVOyxClKDwOItwRYghmJlLQ) - B side to Come On
Positively Absolutelty Right [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V0by-I-nOQ&pp=ygUldGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHBvc2l0aXZlbHkgYWJzb2x 1dGVseQ%3D%3D)
Part Time Lover [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsRDTWvEBwc&pp=ygUfdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHBhcnQgdGltZSBsb3Zlcg% 3D%3D)
What's Easy For Two [[Is Hard For One) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNC8mRyVuU4)
You'll Lose A Precious Love [[Extended Stereo Mix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNMhCFfXZKw&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=23&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
There's A Definite Change In You [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwmMDEZJO0g)
Come Back My Love [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2afOFjeUGs)
[Talkin' Bout] Nobody But My Baby [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qa7KnUijww&pp=ygUudGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHRhbGtpbiBib3V0IG5vYm9 keSBidXQgbXkgYmFieQ%3D%3D)
You Didn't Show Girl [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdlzeGowBHM&pp=ygUkdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHlvdSBkaWRuJ3Qgc2hvdyB naXJs)
My Smile is Just A Frown [[Turned Upside Down) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a318O_7lQ8M&pp=ygUodGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIG15IHNtaWxlIGlzIGp1c3Q gYSBmcm93bg%3D%3D)
Give It Up [[1999 Gettin' Ready Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZhKnT6geT0&pp=ygUadGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGdpdmUgaXQgdXA%3D)
The Man Who Don't Believe In Love [[1999 Gettin' Ready Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E90H3-5I85w)
Ain't To Proud To Beg [[Extended Steroe String Mix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeVd9DjlJ4&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=27&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
I'd Rather Forget [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUDyXJcT4I)
That's Life [[Alternate Version/Single Version?) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI6R4sUMp5M&pp=ygUbdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHRoYXQncyBsaWZl)
I Wish It Would Rain [[Alternate Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZgR3vIdpT4)- This is a stereo version of the song without the special effects
Drifting Away w/ Chaka Khan - From the vaulted 3rd Atlantic album? There a currently no links to this one. However, I have a low quality MP3 of the song that was breifly published on YouTube a long time ago.
Rhythm of Life w/ Diana Ross and the Supremes [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV8K0TGbywY&pp=ygUfdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIHJoeXRobSBvZiBsaWZlIA% 3D%3D)
Mother Nature [[Single Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfiNFnLAhtQ)
Zoom [[Single Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM67qAwofZs) - Discord notes that there are maybe 3-4 different edits of this song with different lengths
Take Me Away [[1980, Single from Motion Picture Loving Couples [[Note: While this one can be found on YouTube, there is currently no high quality rip of this song.)
There's More Where That Came From [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uarnn8wauuo) [[Extended Version) [[B side to Take Me Away) - The 3:50 cut version of this track does not have a good quality rip
My Love is True/ Sail Away [[Live in Santa Barbra) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3sHs2dH5YI&t=173s)
Hang w/ Four Tops [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbr9caazR2o&pp=ygUedGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGhhbmcgZm91ciB0b3Bz)
All I Want From You [[12" Remix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxXKKtchW1M&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=20&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
Get Ready 1990 [[Extended Version) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHGaLtCS1OI&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=16&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB) - Note: There is an extended version of the song that exists but I'm unsure if this is the official version
Shake Your Paw [[From "Garfield: Am I Cool or What" Soundtrack) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N85uLCubEfM)
Treat Her Like A Lady [[M+M Club Remix) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5k3KoWFQXk&list=PL24-AwT7wypkKHSkjKLTlRWOJcy8IvAVb&index=12&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB)
Broken Pieces [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDiN6jon2M&pp=ygUddGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGJyb2tlbiBwaWVjZXM%3D)
A Toast to My Friend [[From Ali Woodsons' "Ali Woodson and Friends' Album) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFtgn-wQwo&pp=ygUjdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIEEgdGFzdCB0byBteSBmcml lbmQ%3D)
I'll Always Love You [[From Roger Smith's "360" Album) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMEJsnlSh6o&pp=ygUldGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGknbGwgYWx3YXlzIGxvdmU geW91IA%3D%3D)
If You Love Somebody [[Set Them Free) - Bonus track on the Back to Front Album [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJK6e1L00NM&pp=ygUjdGhlIHRlbXB0YXRpb25zIGlmIHlvdSBsb3ZlIHNvbWV vbmU%3D)
Notable Album Releases:
Emperors of Soul Box Set
Lost & Found
Gold
Love Songs
Mowtown Unreleased Series
Emperors of Soul: The Rarities
List of tracks that have been found but not "released":
I'm Fascinated [[Extended Version) - Released as a single it's 1:42 longer than the LP Release
Get Ready 1990 [[Pop Edit)
All I Want From You [[12" Radio Edit)
All I Want From You [[Dub Mix)
One Step At A Time [[Remix)
Think For Yourself [[Single Version) - 1:33 seconds shorter than LP version
Miss Busy Body [[Get Your Body Busy) [[Extended Version)
Miss Busy Body [[Get Your Body Busy) Part 2
Broken Pieces [[Radio Edit)
Broken Pieces [[No Monologue) - This version is almost 2min short than the "LP" Version and Radio Edit
This Is My Promise [[Radio Edit)
I'm also hoping to find a complete copy of the Temptations Chicago 1979 Soundstage performance that can be restored into good quality.
List of unconfimred tracks
Up The Creek [[Without A Paddle) - Shorter single version, There's no confimation on any difference between this version and LP version
Mystic Woman [[Love On Me) [[Single Version) - Another shorter release w/ No known differences other than the timestamp
Since I Lost My Baby Rerecorded alternate vocals - Apparently there's a rerecorded version of Since I Lost My Baby without David Ruffin. I talked to the guy who claimed to have discovered it but he could no longer find it when I asked about.
Thanks to anyone and everyone who can help me on this endeavour!
Too Long, Didn't Read - I'm compliling a list of hard to find Remixes/Alternate Versions/Alternate Single Versions/Unreleased songs from The Temptations in hopes of publishing High Quality versions of these tracks [[unofficially) and would like to get this community's help.