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Stax_of_Motown
09-28-2022, 11:16 AM
They are most famous for their work with MG & TT but also did many equally good writing/production for other Motown acts. What is your favourite track?

I'll kick off with one of my favourites:

It Ain't Like That - Martha Reeves & The Vandellas.

sansradio
09-28-2022, 11:23 AM
All of their albums for Miss Ross in their entirety: Diana Ross [1970], Surrender and The Boss. Surrender​ in particular finds Diana at her most soulful and expressive.

Honorable mention: Diana and Marvin's "Just Say, Just Say." Perfection.

motony
09-28-2022, 11:26 AM
LOVE "It Ain't Like That" & "I'm A Winner" by Martha Reeves & the Vandellas from their SUGAR & SPICE LP. "Destination Anywhere" & "Your Love Can Save Me" by the Marvelettes. "I Wouldn't Change The Man He Is" by Blinky...those are my faves.

reese
09-28-2022, 11:28 AM
I can't pick just one. But I love their work with Diana Ross, her solo years as well the tracks they did during the Supremes years.

Individual tracks that I love:

WHO'S GONNA TAKE THE BLAME - Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
DESTINATION: ANYWHERE - The Marvelettes
YOUR LOVE CAN SAVE Me - The Marvelettes
I'M GLAD ABOUT IT - Supremes/Four Tops
DIDN'T YOU KNOW - Gladys Knight and the Pips
KEEP AN EYE - Gladys Knight and the Pips
JUST SAY, JUST SAY - Diana Ross and Marvin Gaye
I'VE COME TO LOVE YOU SO MUCH - Diana Ross and Marvin Gaye

jsmith
09-28-2022, 11:43 AM
Ashford & Simpson [[sometimes with Josie Armstead) were writing as early as 1964 and of course they continued to write right thru to the 1990's.
Perhaps their biggest early successes were with "Let's Go Get Stoned" [[65) & "I Don't Need No Doctor" [[66).
The Capitols cut a version of "Let's Go Get Stoned" backed by the Motown musicians & later on Billy Preston cut a version too.

lucky2012
09-28-2022, 12:56 PM
Love their Diana Ross albums [Diana Ross 1970, Surrender, The Boss]

Individual tracks:
Tear It On Down - Martha Reeves & the Vandellas Black Magic
Just Say Just Say - Diana & Marvin
I’ve Come To Love You Oh So Much - Diana & Marvin
Ain’t Nothing But A Maybe - Diana Ross 1976

theboyfromxtown
09-28-2022, 03:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lhFnHaFaLo

SatansBlues
09-28-2022, 03:39 PM
Two of my favorites are Love Woke Me Up This Morning the Temptations version. And California Soul, I love the Marvin & Valerie/Tammi version.

mysterysinger
09-28-2022, 03:46 PM
"When I Feel The Need" Marvin Gaye
"I Am Your Man" Bobby Taylor & The Vancouvers"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1si0kgJ-qOc

motown01
09-28-2022, 03:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeZRzjGADZE

rovereab
09-29-2022, 04:31 AM
I always liked Can't Seem To Get You Out Of My Mind on the Yesterday's Dreams album.

https://youtu.be/3AKj2W4e-BQ

Sotosound
09-29-2022, 04:43 AM
Me too. It was the B-side to "Do What You Gotta Do" in the UK, which is how I first acquired it.

BayouMotownMan
09-29-2022, 09:13 AM
Everybody seems to have forgotten Marvin Gaye's Tear It On Down from the Grapevine lp. I get chills when I hear that one. Sounds like the Originals behind him.

Also Diana's You Ain't Livin from the Love Child lp is gorgeous with a full orchestration and some extra lyrics. Every track on her Surrender lp is flawless.

Kudos to Diana's Keep An Eye which seems to have Mary and Cindy on it.

Marvin and Tammi's aka Valerie's version of Love Woke Me Up is breathtakeing, should have been a single.

And a shout out to Martha's Won't It Be So Wonderful with the Andantes.

blkfrost
09-29-2022, 10:37 AM
Let's not forget the two albums by the Dynamic Superiors.

blkfrost
09-29-2022, 10:38 AM
I Am Your Man by the Four Tops and Bobby Taylor

Graham Jarvis
09-29-2022, 01:59 PM
Just Love "Go Get Stoned" by Nick Ashford that he recorded on ABC in 1969 as a Non Live version, the B side a Jobete recording "Dead End Kids" writer & background singer Valerie Simpson. Two great sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAoQOtWsMOg&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALnK1RL1RIs

SatansBlues
09-29-2022, 02:09 PM
Didn't Ray Charles do the original version of Let's Go Get Stoned in 65/66?

danman869
09-29-2022, 02:21 PM
These have always been two of my favorite A&S, non-M&T songs:

Brenda Holloway - Starting The Hurt All Over Again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzqR-HjgfxM

Diana Ross - Surrender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOAnDDuHvag

reese
09-29-2022, 02:21 PM
Didn't Ray Charles do the original version of Let's Go Get Stoned in 65/66?

Ray Charles had the hit with it but other artists like Chuck Jackson and Maxine Brown, and the Coasters had recorded it before him.

danman869
09-29-2022, 02:30 PM
Didn't Ray Charles do the original version of Let's Go Get Stoned in 65/66?

Not entirely sure Ray Charles didn't record it first and it was held back until its' eventual single release in May 1966, but...

The Coasters recorded a version on April 21, 1965 that was released in May 1965 on Atco:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG9_Pnnh6s0

The Coasters didn't chart with it, so that's likely why Ray Charles' version is so well known being that its' single release hit Pop #31 and R&B #1.

rovereab
09-29-2022, 03:01 PM
It's a great shame that Diana & Marvin's I've Come To Love You So Much was never finished properly. It had the makings of one of A&S' greatest songs.

soulwally
09-29-2022, 04:30 PM
The delightful This Is My Beloved from the Tempts’ Wish It Would Rain album

https://youtu.be/RuMg-b2pWLE

The Originals’ own version of Tear It On Down

Philles/Motown Gary
09-29-2022, 11:21 PM
Love most of the above-mentioned tracks. Can't forget Valerie's two solo albums on Tamla: "Exposed" and "Valerie Simpson". All tracks provided a perfect transition between their Motown hits and their upcoming Warner Brothers material.

Graham Jarvis
09-30-2022, 02:57 AM
How about Ray Charles & Valerie Simpson from 1969. [[Simpson, Ashford & Armstead)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOlXpN8s1Mo

Stax_of_Motown
09-30-2022, 10:01 AM
Not entirely sure Ray Charles didn't record it first and it was held back until its' eventual single release in May 1966, but...

The Coasters recorded a version on April 21, 1965 that was released in May 1965 on Atco:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG9_Pnnh6s0

The Coasters didn't chart with it, so that's likely why Ray Charles' version is so well known being that its' single release hit Pop #31 and R&B #1.
According to Wikipedia Ray Charles recorded it after hearing Ronnie Milsap's version which was recorded in October 1965, after The Coasters recording, so his version cannot be the original.


Nice instrumental version by Booker T & the M.G.'s:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG6tTyCNPN0

SatansBlues
09-30-2022, 10:10 AM
Ray Charles had the hit with it but other artists like Chuck Jackson and Maxine Brown, and the Coasters had recorded it before him.

Thanks for the information. I will look for other versions and give them a listen.

jobucats
09-30-2022, 10:49 AM
Among my top Ashford/Simpson's favorites is the ill-fated and unsuccessful attempt they did to provide the Supreme's first non-HDH single after HDH three left Motown. It's a killer track to me. "Some Things You Never Get Used To"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4vBzLdOEeI

Stax_of_Motown
09-30-2022, 01:54 PM
A great unreleased Ashford & Simpson track from David Ruffin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsknVn-xkto

144man
09-30-2022, 07:30 PM
I always liked the first Asford-Simpson song on Motown I heard, "I Can't Give Back the Love I Feel For You" by Syreeta recording as Rita Wright.

bob_olhsson
10-02-2022, 02:47 PM
On top of all that, Valerie Simpson was a go-to background singer in the New York studio scene. We've heard her on a zillion hits and jingles from the 1960s. I used to joke that Motown was her hobby.

sansradio
10-02-2022, 02:59 PM
On top of all that, Valerie Simpson was a go-to background singer in the New York studio scene. We've heard her on a zillion hits and jingles from the 1960s. I used to joke that Motown was her hobby.

Amen, Bob! She was the New York jingle and session queen before Patti Austin claimed the crown.


https://youtu.be/z4v9m_ef6FI

Philles/Motown Gary
10-03-2022, 01:44 AM
Among my top Ashford/Simpson's favorites is the ill-fated and unsuccessful attempt they did to provide the Supreme's first non-HDH single after HDH three left Motown. It's a killer track to me. "Some Things You Never Get Used To"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4vBzLdOEeI

"Some Things....." is among my favorites, too, jobucats. It's still strange to me why so many fans don't like it. If I had to point out a negative, it would be that the track is too short. Other than that, it's perfect for me.

soulwally
10-04-2022, 12:02 PM
I always liked the first Asford-Simpson song on Motown I heard, "I Can't Give Back the Love I Feel For You" by Syreeta recording as Rita Wright.
Yes, first time I saw their name on a TMG label