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floyjoy678
02-21-2022, 10:46 AM
Does anyone have an idea of what the setlist was for their 1966 Copa appearance or if any shows were recorded? I'm a fan of the live recordings so I think it'd be interesting to hear how the show was compared to the '65 and '67 shows. I seem to recall reading someone who was there that they were surprised that My World Is Empty wasn't in the act considering it had been out for a couple months by that point. Didn't they also do Fancy Passes?

SatansBlues
02-21-2022, 12:29 PM
I had the same question a couple of years ago and was told that those shows were not recorded and their set list had not changed much from their first time there in '65.

sup_fan
02-21-2022, 02:02 PM
they played the Copa in early March 66. My World was their most current single and IHAS album had only recently been released.

they typically did 4 - 6 of their hits. and I'm not really aware of any major new production numbers, at least based on what we've seen from their tv appearances.

here's my guess at the set:

Put on a happy face
baby love
stop
come see
Symphony
My World is empty
Make someone happy
rockabye
queen of the house
somewhere
sam cooke medley
you're nobody

I'd guess that Tonight, Enjoy Yourself, Boy from Ipanema and I Am Woman would have been dropped.

It's possible From This Moment On was still in. and a big question would be when did they first add the Symphony medley? and when was More added?

captainjames
02-21-2022, 05:08 PM
Not to make any excuse but the girls were so busy and the dates were so frequent that there was no time for any new reversals or songs. They were really being worked like work horses.

nomis
02-22-2022, 01:20 AM
Is it an urban myth or did drats play the copa after flo left ? Didn't J Randy write that the owner forced Berry's hand over Flo ?

blackguy69
02-22-2022, 09:08 AM
They did the Copa in 68

Is it an urban myth or did drats play the copa after flo left ? Didn't J Randy write that the owner forced Berry's hand over Flo ?

reese
02-22-2022, 09:52 AM
Is it an urban myth or did drats play the copa after flo left ? Didn't J Randy write that the owner forced Berry's hand over Flo ?

According to J. Randy, Gordy was going to pull Flo out of the 1966 engagement but Jules Podell objected. I believe this has since been debunked by Shelly Berger.

johnjeb
02-22-2022, 12:36 PM
Does anyone have an idea of what the setlist was for their 1966 Copa appearance or if any shows were recorded? I'm a fan of the live recordings so I think it'd be interesting to hear how the show was compared to the '65 and '67 shows. I seem to recall reading someone who was there that they were surprised that My World Is Empty wasn't in the act considering it had been out for a couple months by that point. Didn't they also do Fancy Passes?

I saw The Supremes on February 12, 1966 at Brandeis University near Boston, Massachusetts. The set list was the same as The Copa album, more or less. As a 16 year-old I was surprised that they would perform a nightclub act for a teenage audience at a university!

I don't recall if they sang WDOLG or NBH but I distinctly remember they didn't sing their latest release My World Is Empty Without You, which was in its fifth week on the Billboard charts. It was disappointing but I rationalized that because it was new they hadn't prepared the song for their shows.

It's surprising that they didn't even have the song ready by the time they got to the Copa the following month. I know I have a review of their Copa show in my memorabilia. I'll have to check to see if it mentions My World.

However through the years I saw this was a pattern. In March 1968 they didn't perform Forever Came Today when I saw them. In their defense it was only out a week or two.

Discussions on this forum have often included musings that if they had appeared on TV to promote this or that single it might have charted better. One would think that it would make the most sense of having a song ready for their concerts at the time of release, especially since they were doing many one-night shows catering to record-buying teenage audiences, as well as their week-long supper club engagements.

In 1969 I don't recall they performed any of their single releases from that year. I saw them about four times. Neither did they introduce, preview, or even mention, the soon to be released Someday We'll Be Together when I saw them two weeks before it was released.

This occurred throughout the 70s with Diana's releases. I was surprised when I saw Diana Ross a month before The Boss album's release that there was never a hint or mention of the upcoming single or album. Not even a picture or a title - nothing! Surprisingly, when I saw her at Radio City in the Fall of 1978 she sang a song from the Ross 78 album that was never even a single.

sup_fan
02-22-2022, 12:40 PM
I saw The Supremes on February 12, 1966 at Brandeis University near Boston, Massachusetts. The set list was the same as The Copa album, more or less. As a 16 year-old I was surprised that they would perform a nightclub act for a teenage audience at a university!

I don't recall if they sang WDOLG or NBH but I distinctly remember they didn't sing their latest release My World Is Empty Without You, which was in its fifth week on the Billboard charts. It was disappointing but I rationalized that because it was new they hadn't prepared the song for their shows.

It's surprising that they didn't even have the song ready by the time they got to the Copa the following month. I know I have a review of their Copa show in my memorabilia. I'll have to check to see if it mentions My World.

However through the years I saw this was a pattern. In March 1968 they didn't perform Forever Came Today when I saw them. In their defense it was only out a week or two.

Discussions on this forum have often included musings that if they had appeared on TV to promote this or that single it might have charted better. One would think that it would make the most sense of having a song ready for their concerts at the time of release, especially since they were doing many one-night shows catering to record-buying teenage audiences, as well as their week-long supper club engagements.

In 1969 I don't recall they performed any of their single releases from that year. I saw them about four times. Neither did they introduce, preview, or even mention, the soon to be released Someday We'll Be Together when I saw them two weeks before it was released.

This occurred throughout the 70s with Diana's releases. I was surprised when I saw Diana Ross a month before The Boss album's release that there was never a hint or mention of the upcoming single or album. Not even a picture or a title - nothing! Surprisingly, when I saw her at Radio City in the Fall of 1978 she sang a song from the Ross 78 album that was never even a single.

great memories!! thanks so much for sharing

would love to hear more. what dates you saw them and where [[i'll add to my Itinerary spreadsheet lol), what did they wear, other songs they performed

did you ever see the 70s Sups live?

floyjoy678
02-22-2022, 01:01 PM
I saw The Supremes on February 12, 1966 at Brandeis University near Boston, Massachusetts. The set list was the same as The Copa album, more or less. As a 16 year-old I was surprised that they would perform a nightclub act for a teenage audience at a university!

I don't recall if they sang WDOLG or NBH but I distinctly remember they didn't sing their latest release My World Is Empty Without You, which was in its fifth week on the Billboard charts. It was disappointing but I rationalized that because it was new they hadn't prepared the song for their shows.

It's surprising that they didn't even have the song ready by the time they got to the Copa the following month. I know I have a review of their Copa show in my memorabilia. I'll have to check to see if it mentions My World.

However through the years I saw this was a pattern. In March 1968 they didn't perform Forever Came Today when I saw them. In their defense it was only out a week or two.

Discussions on this forum have often included musings that if they had appeared on TV to promote this or that single it might have charted better. One would think that it would make the most sense of having a song ready for their concerts at the time of release, especially since they were doing many one-night shows catering to record-buying teenage audiences, as well as their week-long supper club engagements.

In 1969 I don't recall they performed any of their single releases from that year. I saw them about four times. Neither did they introduce, preview, or even mention, the soon to be released Someday We'll Be Together when I saw them two weeks before it was released.

This occurred throughout the 70s with Diana's releases. I was surprised when I saw Diana Ross a month before The Boss album's release that there was never a hint or mention of the upcoming single or album. Not even a picture or a title - nothing! Surprisingly, when I saw her at Radio City in the Fall of 1978 she sang a song from the Ross 78 album that was never even a single.


I'm interested in hearing more about the 1966 show! Do you remember which of their hits they did perform? Anything particularly exciting about the show that you remember?

floyjoy678
02-22-2022, 03:52 PM
According to J. Randy, Gordy was going to pull Flo out of the 1966 engagement but Jules Podell objected. I believe this has since been debunked by Shelly Berger.

The story went that Marlene was filling in for Flo before the '66 Copa date because she was sick but I think it was actually the '65 Copa gig when this was happening as we've seen pictures of Marlene on stage with Diana and Mary in July of 1965. I wonder if this was confused with the 1966 appearance. Shelley Berger would not have known about the 1965 incidents as he was not yet their manager.

Also I believe a tour in Europe was cancelled before the 1966 Copa date due to Flo being sick.

sup_fan
02-22-2022, 04:21 PM
Marlene subbed for flo on a few occasions. there are pics of her onstage with M and D at the Grosse Point Country Club. the girls were hired to perform at a debutant ball [[wow - some rich parents! lol) This was after the Copa 65 gig. not sure of exact date

the story of Jules insisting Flo be on stage would have been the March 66 appearance

reese
02-22-2022, 04:44 PM
The story went that Marlene was filling in for Flo before the '66 Copa date because she was sick but I think it was actually the '65 Copa gig when this was happening as we've seen pictures of Marlene on stage with Diana and Mary in July of 1965. I wonder if this was confused with the 1966 appearance. Shelley Berger would not have known about the 1965 incidents as he was not yet their manager.

Also I believe a tour in Europe was cancelled before the 1966 Copa date due to Flo being sick.

I think there might be confusion about Marlene's 1965 and 1966 times subbing for Flo, especially when I see what they were wearing in photos from the Grosse Point date.

That said, Berger was interviewed in Mark Ribowsky's book on the Supremes. Ribowsky repeated J. Randy' story about Jules Podell refusing to allow the group to appear without Flo for their 1966 Copa date. Berger said it wasn't true and that Berry didn't have to run anything by Podell. Berger even mentioned that he was very close to Podell and had known him for years, and that he wouldn't have cared if one of the backup vocalists didn't appear.

SatansBlues
02-22-2022, 05:50 PM
My understanding is that this happened in 1967. When Flo was temporarily suspended from the Supremes and Cindy B. was brought in as a replacement for their Hollywood Bowl appearance in April, the Supremes were scheduled to play the Copa that May. And the story was that Jules Podell insisted that the original three Supremes perform and Florence was brought back in the group and stated until July before finally leaving.

nomis
02-22-2022, 07:47 PM
Ribowsky's book also claims that a Copa show was filmed and shown on tv surely that is a research error

reese
02-22-2022, 09:31 PM
Ribowsky's book also claims that a Copa show was filmed and shown on tv surely that is a research error

I wouldn't bet my life on any of Ribowsky's books. They are full of errors. I was just giving the source of where Berger was quoted as saying the story about Podell making Berry retain Flo for the 1966 Copa date was untrue.

nomis
02-22-2022, 09:53 PM
I wouldn't bet my life on any of Ribowsky's books. They are full of errors. I was just giving the source of where Berger was quoted as saying the story about Podell making Berry retain Flo for the 1966 Copa date was untrue.

It's a shame the book has a few errors I enjoyed it for the most part..I'm fascinated by the pre fame days and the sheer number of live dates and background vocals the ladies worked on for the most part are not documented so much

johnjeb
02-23-2022, 02:22 PM
I'm interested in hearing more about the 1966 show! Do you remember which of their hits they did perform? Anything particularly exciting about the show that you remember?

The show was exciting for me because it was my first time seeing them and in my hometown, no less. I was able to walk to the venue.

I have little recall of the show other than it was pretty much the Copa show. I just got that album for Christmas only about 6 weeks before, so I pretty much knew the show. If they sang any other songs, hits or standards, I don't remember. Maybe owning the album and playing it nonstop clouded my memory of the show that I actually saw.

What stood out for me, as I mentioned, is that they didn't sing My World, their latest single, and I don't think they sang WDOLG, which was my favorite. So I was disappointed that those songs were missing.

Another memory is that during Make Someone Happy their mikes cut-out. Diana, then Florence, hustled over to Mary's mike then Mary's went too but they continued singing. Not sure if the mikes came back on during the song or after the song. I remember they wore gold gowns. From pictures I saw years later it appears they were the gowns which were pictured on Sing HDH the following year.

It's weird how memory can be so hazy. Even after only a few years, or even months, never mind 56 years. I saw Beach Ball in the theater when it was released in 1965. For years afterward I would tell Supremes friends that the girls sang Beach Ball and Stop In The Name Of Love! Boy was I shocked when I saw the movie on TV in the 70s. How did I confuse Stop and Surfer Boy?

As I mentioned this show was 1966 in my suburban hometown. A couple of years ago Scherrie, Susaye and Joyce also performed in my hometown but unfortunately I was unaware and missed the show. Would have been nice to come full circle DMF to SSJ.

floyjoy678
02-23-2022, 02:38 PM
The show was exciting for me because it was my first time seeing them and in my hometown, no less. I was able to walk to the venue.

I have little recall of the show other than it was pretty much the Copa show. I just got that album for Christmas only about 6 weeks before, so I pretty much knew the show. If they sang any other songs, hits or standards, I don't remember. Maybe owning the album and playing it nonstop clouded my memory of the show that I actually saw.

What stood out for me, as I mentioned, is that they didn't sing My World, their latest single, and I don't think they sang WDOLG, which was my favorite. So I was disappointed that those songs were missing.

Another memory is that during Make Someone Happy their mikes cut-out. Diana, then Florence, hustled over to Mary's mike then Mary's went too but they continued singing. Not sure if the mikes came back on during the song or after the song. I remember they wore gold gowns. From pictures I saw years later it appears they were the gowns which were pictured on Sing HDH the following year.

It's weird how memory can be so hazy. Even after only a few years, or even months, never mind 56 years. I saw Beach Ball in the theater when it was released in 1965. For years afterward I would tell Supremes friends that the girls sang Beach Ball and Stop In The Name Of Love! Boy was I shocked when I saw the movie on TV in the 70s. How did I confuse Stop and Surfer Boy?

As I mentioned this show was 1966 in my suburban hometown. A couple of years ago Scherrie, Susaye and Joyce also performed in my hometown but unfortunately I was unaware and missed the show. Would have been nice to come full circle DMF to SSJ.

Sounds like a great memory to have! So I'm assuming they performed Baby Love, Come See About Me and Back In My Arms Again?

And you're right about memory being hazy. For years I swore I saw the Supremes perform Baby Love on the Ed Sullivan Show wearing blue sequins but I eventually realized it was the You Can't Hurry Love performance lol.

johnjeb
02-23-2022, 02:39 PM
great memories!! thanks so much for sharing

would love to hear more. what dates you saw them and where [[i'll add to my Itinerary spreadsheet lol), what did they wear, other songs they performed

did you ever see the 70s Sups live?

Not sure I can provide you with dates unless I go to my memorabilia in the attic. I try to avoid doing that. I still have items here in my den that should have gone back to the attic months ago.

To be honest, I often refer to Laurent's very helpful Diana Ross website for dates or to refresh my memory on other details. He is very thorough and accurate. As a matter of fact I just noticed he has pictures from my university when I saw them in 1969. His are B&W, mine are in color from the school publications. I'll have to look into that, at some point.

Yes I saw JMC in August 1970 at Harvard Stadium in Cambridge, MA. Also the summer of 1971 at the Orpheum Theater in Boston. No recall from either show.

I also saw MCS just after they regrouped, most likely 1975. Ironically they performed in Framingham, MA at a theater/disco that was once the Monticello supper club where Diana Ross made her solo debut in March 1970 when she was preparing her new act for Vegas. Unfortunately I never made it to that show since I was away at school.

Laurent
02-23-2022, 03:44 PM
I remember that when I was doing intensive researches for the Timeline [[60's part) of my website that I read reviews of the Copa 66 in newspapers archives. I noted that they performed
- Let There Be love
- Fancy Passes

... and, johnjeb, if ever you dare to go in your attic, I would love you to share some of your memorabilia to complete the website :-)

SatansBlues
02-23-2022, 03:53 PM
This is part of the IG exchange that I had with George Solomon back in 2019.19597

Sorry that the print is so small, I'm not sure how to expand it.

TheMotownManiac
02-23-2022, 05:00 PM
I saw The Supremes on February 12, 1966 at Brandeis University near Boston, Massachusetts. The set list was the same as The Copa album, more or less. As a 16 year-old I was surprised that they would perform a nightclub act for a teenage audience at a university!

I don't recall if they sang WDOLG or NBH but I distinctly remember they didn't sing their latest release My World Is Empty Without You, which was in its fifth week on the Billboard charts. It was disappointing but I rationalized that because it was new they hadn't prepared the song for their shows.

It's surprising that they didn't even have the song ready by the time they got to the Copa the following month. I know I have a review of their Copa show in my memorabilia. I'll have to check to see if it mentions My World.

However through the years I saw this was a pattern. In March 1968 they didn't perform Forever Came Today when I saw them. In their defense it was only out a week or two.

Discussions on this forum have often included musings that if they had appeared on TV to promote this or that single it might have charted better. One would think that it would make the most sense of having a song ready for their concerts at the time of release, especially since they were doing many one-night shows catering to record-buying teenage audiences, as well as their week-long supper club engagements.

In 1969 I don't recall they performed any of their single releases from that year. I saw them about four times. Neither did they introduce, preview, or even mention, the soon to be released Someday We'll Be Together when I saw them two weeks before it was released.

This occurred throughout the 70s with Diana's releases. I was surprised when I saw Diana Ross a month before The Boss album's release that there was never a hint or mention of the upcoming single or album. Not even a picture or a title - nothing! Surprisingly, when I saw her at Radio City in the Fall of 1978 she sang a song from the Ross 78 album that was never even a single.

what song from Ross did she do?

Jaap
02-23-2022, 06:13 PM
what song from Ross did she do?

Didn't she sing "To Love Again" in a big shoe?

reese
02-23-2022, 06:27 PM
Didn't she sing "To Love Again" in a big shoe?

Maybe she did YOU WERE THE ONE. That was the song she performed when I saw her in April 1979.

nomis
02-23-2022, 06:33 PM
Maybe she did YOU WERE THE ONE. That was the song she performed when I saw her in April 1979.

Also "lovin' living giving" was performed live in this time period

reese
02-23-2022, 06:39 PM
Also "lovin' living giving" was performed live in this time period

Yes, she sang that one as well at the show I attended. But it wasn't as big of a surprise since it had already been released on the TGIF soundtrack. But when she sang YOU WERE THE ONE, it was a real treat as I didn't know she did album tracks in concert.

nomis
02-23-2022, 07:51 PM
Yes, she sang that one as well at the show I attended. But it wasn't as big of a surprise since it had already been released on the TGIF soundtrack. But when she sang YOU WERE THE ONE, it was a real treat as I didn't know she did album tracks in concert.

That would be amazing to see Reese..imo she was at her vocal peak in this period..

reese
02-23-2022, 08:22 PM
That would be amazing to see Reese..imo she was at her vocal peak in this period..

I also heard a bootleg where she did ALL NIGHT LOVER during one of the TOUR '79 shows as well.

nomis
02-23-2022, 08:49 PM
I also heard a bootleg where she did ALL NIGHT LOVER during one of the TOUR '79 shows as well.

I'm fascinated by Ross & Supremes bootlegs..one has circulated for years that includes a very early interview on The Tonight Show..I've always wanted to hear it

TheMotownManiac
02-24-2022, 07:35 AM
Didn't she sing "To Love Again" in a big shoe?


yes, I forgot! Plus You We’re The One and I think Lovin’Livin’Givin’

johnjeb
02-24-2022, 11:39 AM
Maybe she did YOU WERE THE ONE. That was the song she performed when I saw her in April 1979.

Reese, I think you are right. Since I don't remember the specific song at all, other than it being from Ross 78, I always assumed it was either YWTO or Never Say I Don't Love You. I don't think it was LL&G.

Someone mentioned All Night Lover. I wonder if on the 1978/79 tour she tried-out different songs. Too bad she didn't continue that throughout her career giving us one or two surprises at each performance. Usually when she came to the area I would see more than one show, so everything seems to be a blur.

Was that April 1979 show that you saw at the Boston Garden? I was there but don't remember a song from the Ross 78 album. As I said I saw her in NYC in 78 and was surprised she sang a non-single from that album so if she did the same in Boston a few months later I probably wasn't as surprised and didn't retain that memory.

sup_fan
02-24-2022, 11:57 AM
it's interesting to see what content from her solo albums she did incorporate into her live shows:

DR 70
Mountain
Reach out
Something on my mind

EIE
I'm still waiting

Surrender
Remember me
Reach out [[at least in later years)
not sure she ever did the title track live much. it was released when she was very preg and also working on Lady.

TMITM
title track

Last Time
title track
Sleepin

DR 76
Hangover
Mahogany
wonder if I thought It Took A Little Time ever made it in?

BIM
All night lover
too shy to say

Ross
LLG
You were the one
To love again
never say?

Boss
title track
its my house
no one gets the prize
i ain't been licked
all for one

reese
02-24-2022, 02:08 PM
Reese, I think you are right. Since I don't remember the specific song at all, other than it being from Ross 78, I always assumed it was either YWTO or Never Say I Don't Love You. I don't think it was LL&G.

Someone mentioned All Night Lover. I wonder if on the 1978/79 tour she tried-out different songs. Too bad she didn't continue that throughout her career giving us one or two surprises at each performance. Usually when she came to the area I would see more than one show, so everything seems to be a blur.

Was that April 1979 show that you saw at the Boston Garden? I was there but don't remember a song from the Ross 78 album. As I said I saw her in NYC in 78 and was surprised she sang a non-single from that album so if she did the same in Boston a few months later I probably wasn't as surprised and didn't retain that memory.

Yes, I did attend the Boston Garden show in 1979.

She sang a medley of LOVIN', LIVIN' & GIVIN' / LOVE HANGOVER and closed the show with a medley of YOU WERE THE ONE/AIN"T NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH, at which point her dancers carried her back into the movie screen. After showing Diana on the endless staircase, they showed a huge blow-up of the ROSS '78 album cover. Later, this was changed to a huge blow-up of THE BOSS.

It is possible that she pulled out a few different songs while tinkering with the set list. I heard ALL NIGHT LOVER on a bootleg but I don't remember her doing it in Boston. I think if she had, I would have remembered it, as it would have been as much of a surprise as YOU WERE THE ONE.

reese
02-24-2022, 02:13 PM
it's interesting to see what content from her solo albums she did incorporate into her live shows:

DR 70
Mountain
Reach out
Something on my mind

EIE
I'm still waiting

Surrender
Remember me
Reach out [[at least in later years)
not sure she ever did the title track live much. it was released when she was very preg and also working on Lady.

TMITM
title track

Last Time
title track
Sleepin

DR 76
Hangover
Mahogany
wonder if I thought It Took A Little Time ever made it in?

BIM
All night lover
too shy to say

Ross
LLG
You were the one
To love again
never say?

Boss
title track
its my house
no one gets the prize
i ain't been licked
all for one

From DIANA ROSS [1970], According to J. Randy, she also sang I WOULDN'T CHANGE THE MAN HE IS.

From BABY IT'S ME, she also did GETTIN' READY FOR LOVE.

From DIANA ROSS [1976], she also did ONE LOVE IN MY LIFETIME and SMILE.

thommg
02-24-2022, 03:33 PM
I have heard that during the 1973 Caesar's Palace show she did Happy [[Love Theme From Lady Sings The Blues). If true, I would love to have that on an expanded Live at Caesar's Palace cd.

nomis
02-24-2022, 03:49 PM
She also did [[ I love you) Call Me from EIE

Jaap
02-26-2022, 05:03 AM
I have heard that during the 1973 Caesar's Palace show she did Happy [[Love Theme From Lady Sings The Blues). If true, I would love to have that on an expanded Live at Caesar's Palace cd.

I'm sure someone has posted this before, but Ross did "Happy" also at a concert in Cannes in 1994, with composer Michel Legrand himself on the piano.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7ZAnn9-84

daviddh
02-26-2022, 02:53 PM
on expanded Sing HDH, there is a live set included from 66

daviddh
02-26-2022, 02:55 PM
never heard this 'beautiful.
thank you for sharing this

danman869
02-27-2022, 12:40 PM
on expanded Sing HDH, there is a live set included from 66

Actually, on "Sing HDH: Expanded Edition," it includes the Copa set from May 1967. You may be confusing it with the September 1966 Roostertail set included on "I Hear A Symphony: EE."

daviddh
02-27-2022, 04:57 PM
I'm sure someone has posted this before, but Ross did "Happy" also at a concert in Cannes in 1994, with composer Michel Legrand himself on the piano.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7ZAnn9-84

Why didn't she record this or is it unreleased

Ollie9
02-27-2022, 06:06 PM
Her voice sounds really strained and uncomfortable here. If a recording does exist, which i very much doubt it would be interesting to compare the two.

reese
02-27-2022, 07:43 PM
Why didn't she record this or is it unreleased

A live version was recorded during the engagement that became the LIVE AT CAESARS PALACE album but it wasn't included. I don't know if she did a studio version.

reese
02-27-2022, 07:45 PM
Her voice sounds really strained and uncomfortable here. If a recording does exist, which i very much doubt it would be interesting to compare the two.

It is probably not a song she does that often. I think she sounds fine but I would have dropped the key.

PeaceNHarmony
02-27-2022, 08:18 PM
I have heard that during the 1973 Caesar's Palace show she did Happy [[Love Theme From Lady Sings The Blues). If true, I would love to have that on an expanded Live at Caesar's Palace cd.I would love an expanded LaCP as well. A 'minor' album for Diana but one that I played endlessly at the time and still love whenever I give it a spin.

nomis
02-28-2022, 01:15 AM
I would love an expanded LaCP as well. A 'minor' album for Diana but one that I played endlessly at the time and still love whenever I give it a spin.

I've always adored " Corner of the sky " from this album

Ollie9
02-28-2022, 04:43 AM
It is probably not a song she does that often. I think she sounds fine but I would have dropped the key.

Agree, the key is just to high which is why she ends up straining to hit the notes. Not terrible, just sounds like hard work. It would be interesting to hear the live 73 version.
I remember reading there exists in the vaults a recording of the Caesars Palace concert offering much better sound quality.
As “Reflections” appears to be on hold, i’m guessing an expanded release is not scheduled anytime soon.

reese
02-28-2022, 09:37 AM
Agree, the key is just to high which is why she ends up straining to hit the notes. Not terrible, just sounds like hard work. It would be interesting to hear the live 73 version.
I remember reading there exists in the vaults a recording of the Caesars Palace concert offering much better sound quality.
As “Reflections” appears to be on hold, i’m guessing an expanded release is not scheduled anytime soon.

I found the cd that they released of it back in the 90s sounds much better than the vinyl that I bought. To my ears, there are no alternate vocals but the mix is better, some of the applause might be different, and there's a few "Thank You" s that aren't on my vinyl.

Ollie9
03-01-2022, 07:07 AM
I found the cd that they released of it back in the 90s sounds much better than the vinyl that I bought. To my ears, there are no alternate vocals but the mix is better, some of the applause might be different, and there's a few "Thank You" s that aren't on my vinyl.

Apparently there exists a far superior mix that has yet to see the light of day. I played it to death at the time, but the sound quality on the original album always did sound rather tinny.
The fact it was originally planned as a double album, means there be quite a few extra songs that were edited out when it was whittled down to a single album release.

reese
03-01-2022, 09:39 AM
Apparently there exists a far superior mix that has yet to see the light of day. I played it to death at the time, but the sound quality on the original album always did sound rather tinny.
The fact it was originally planned as a double album, means there be quite a few extra songs that were edited out when it was whittled down to a single album release.

It might have been reduced to a single disk upon its release because it was somewhat dated. It was recorded in early 1973 but wasn't released until spring of 1974. In the interim, Diana had recorded hits like TOUCH ME IN THE MORNING and LAST TIME I SAW HIM, as well as the duets with Marvin Gaye. If they had recorded a later concert, it might have been more attractive, sales-wise.

Ollie9
03-01-2022, 10:22 AM
It might have been reduced to a single disk upon its release because it was somewhat dated. It was recorded in early 1973 but wasn't released until spring of 1974. In the interim, Diana had recorded hits like TOUCH ME IN THE MORNING and LAST TIME I SAW HIM, as well as the duets with Marvin Gaye. If they had recorded a later concert, it might have been more attractive, sales-wise.

I don't think her set list had altered that drastically from 73 to 74. “Touch Me In The Morning” was an addition, but she wasn’t singing “LTISH” or any of the duet tracks from D&M. In fact other then “Sleepin”, i don’t believe she was performing any other songs from “LTISH”. Happy to be corrected. One of the highlights of the album for me is “I Love You Porgy”.
Had they released “Blue” instead, it might possibly have sold better. I imagine with Berry always keen to highlight Diana's versatility, he was ready to move on to pastures new.

reese
03-01-2022, 11:39 AM
I don't think her set list had altered that drastically from 73 to 74. “Touch Me In The Morning” was an addition, but she wasn’t singing “LTISH” or any of the duet tracks from D&M. In fact other then “Sleepin”, i don’t believe she was performing any other songs from “LTISH”. Happy to be corrected. One of the highlights of the album for me is “I Love You Porgy”.
Had they released “Blue” instead, it might possibly have sold better. I imagine with Berry always keen to highlight Diana's versatility, he was ready to move on to pastures new.

I'm not sure what she did on tour during those years. But I did read an interview with Gil Askey who mentioned she was doing a new arrangement of LOVE CHILD to open her 1974 Universal Amphitheater engagement, as well as Stevie's SUPERSTITION, and Bette Midler's DO YOU WANT TO DANCE? It was also mentioned that she performed MY MISTAKE with G.C. Cameron during the engagement. Ron Miller mentioned attending a show where she performed TOUCH ME, SLEEPIN' and LAST TIME I SAW HIM.

Any of these would have made a more 1974-friendly album, although I hasten to add that I love the album as it is.

Ollie9
03-01-2022, 12:26 PM
I'm not sure what she did on tour during those years. But I did read an interview with Gil Askey who mentioned she was doing a new arrangement of LOVE CHILD to open her 1974 Universal Amphitheater engagement, as well as Stevie's SUPERSTITION, and Bette Midler's DO YOU WANT TO DANCE? It was also mentioned that she performed MY MISTAKE with G.C. Cameron during the engagement. Ron Miller mentioned attending a show where she performed TOUCH ME, SLEEPIN' and LAST TIME I SAW HIM.

Any of these would have made a more 1974-friendly album, although I hasten to add that I love the album as it is.

I would have loved to have seen her duetting with G.C Cameron. A more fitting duet partner then Larry Hagman me thinks lol. I wonder if it was a one off performance or a regular fixture. It’s rather annoying there are no recordings of what sounds like a very special concert presentation.I had no idea she had performed “LTISH” live, other then on the muppet show of course.

Ollie9
03-01-2022, 06:39 PM
I'm not sure what she did on tour during those years. But I did read an interview with Gil Askey who mentioned she was doing a new arrangement of LOVE CHILD to open her 1974 Universal Amphitheater engagement, as well as Stevie's SUPERSTITION, and Bette Midler's DO YOU WANT TO DANCE? It was also mentioned that she performed MY MISTAKE with G.C. Cameron during the engagement. Ron Miller mentioned attending a show where she performed TOUCH ME, SLEEPIN' and LAST TIME I SAW HIM.

Any of these would have made a more 1974-friendly album, although I hasten to add that I love the album as it is.

Those additional songs must have remained in her set list for only a short time. Unless of course she was on the road during 75, a year i thought she had taken off to be with her children.

reese
03-01-2022, 06:53 PM
Those additional songs must have remained in her set list for only a short time. Unless of course she was on the road during 75, a year i thought she had taken off to be with her children.

I don't think Diana did much professionally during 1975. But she was the first performer at the Westchester Premiere Theatre in New York that year. The one review I read seemed to focus on the opening of the venue rather than her act.

I gather most of 1975 was spent preparing for the birth of her third daughter and the release of MAHOGANY.

Jaap
03-01-2022, 07:33 PM
I don't think her set list had altered that drastically from 73 to 74. “Touch Me In The Morning” was an addition, but she wasn’t singing “LTISH” or any of the duet tracks from D&M. In fact other then “Sleepin”, i don’t believe she was performing any other songs from “LTISH”. Happy to be corrected. One of the highlights of the album for me is “I Love You Porgy”.
Had they released “Blue” instead, it might possibly have sold better. I imagine with Berry always keen to highlight Diana's versatility, he was ready to move on to pastures new.

According to Taraborelli, the originally planned double album also included "Strange Fruit," "All of Me," and "Our Love Is Here To Stay" as part of the LSTB section, and "Being Green" was part of a longer Sesame Street medley.
And of course on her 1973 European tour she did include some other songs, like "Somewhere" [[in the more jazzy arrangement), "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "I Don't Know How To Love Him", "When You Smile," "Together" [[not the Michael Masser song), and "Call Me." Would be great to have an early 1970s collection of live recordings, also including those of the 1970 At the Grove!

Ollie9
03-02-2022, 06:45 AM
According to Taraborelli, the originally planned double album also included "Strange Fruit," "All of Me," and "Our Love Is Here To Stay" as part of the LSTB section, and "Being Green" was part of a longer Sesame Street medley.
And of course on her 1973 European tour she did include some other songs, like "Somewhere" [[in the more jazzy arrangement), "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "I Don't Know How To Love Him", "When You Smile," "Together" [[not the Michael Masser song), and "Call Me." Would be great to have an early 1970s collection of live recordings, also including those of the 1970 At the Grove!

I was forgetting those songs. Looking back at the 70’s, she did manage to incorporate quite a few new songs into her set list during that time frame. It’s a shame it ended up all so predictable.
An expanded ‘At The Grove” would be great idea, to include live performances from other concerts or even tv.

sup_fan
03-06-2022, 10:55 AM
another song that was cut after this 66/67 period was the cute intro to Baby Love "now that you've heard some of our favorite songs..."

listening to the Symphony EE and enjoying the Roostertail show

Jaap
03-06-2022, 01:50 PM
another song that was cut after this 66/67 period was the cute intro to Baby Love "now that you've heard some of our favorite songs..."

listening to the Symphony EE and enjoying the Roostertail show

It was so nice to see it back in The Return To Love tour!