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pj1
04-18-2011, 08:42 PM
http://theseconddisc.com/2011/04/13/right-on-marvin-gayes-whats-going-on-receives-40th-anniversary-box-set/#more-6016

containing 11 previously unreleased tracks

soulster
04-19-2011, 04:23 AM
Damn! You beat me to it!

I will get this box, and it will be the last time I buy this album. But, look at all the great stuff on it! I just hope they kept their paws off the compressor/limiter this time!

Marvin Gaye, What’s Going On: Super Deluxe Edition [[Motown/UMe, 2011)

Disc 1

What’s Going On
What’s Happening Brother
Flyin’ High [[in the Friendly Sky)
Save the Children
God is Love
Mercy Mercy Me [[The Ecology)
Right On
Wholy Holy
Inner City Blues [[Make Me Wanna Holler)
What’s Going On [[Original Rejected Single Mix)
Head Title [[Distant Lover) [[Demo)
Symphony [[Demo)
I Love the Ground You Walk On [[Instrumental)
What’s Going On [[Mono Single Version)
God is Love [[Mono Single Version)
Mercy Mercy Me [[The Ecology) [[Mono Single Version)
Sad Tomorrows [[Mono Single Version)
Inner City Blues [[Make Me Wanna Holler) [[Mono Single Version)
Wholly Holy [[Mono Single Version)

Disc 2

Checking Out [[Double Clutch)
Chained
Country Stud
Help the People
Running from Love [[Version 1)
Daybreak
Doing My Thing
T Stands for Time
Jesus is Our Love Song
Funky Nation
Infinity
Mandota [[Instrumental)
Struttin’ the Blues
Running from Love [[Version 2 with Strings)
I’m Going Home [[Move)
You’re the Man [[Parts I & II)
You’re the Man [[Alternate Version 1)
You’re the Man [[Alternate Version 2)
LP: Original Detroit Mix [[April 5, 1971)

What’s Going On
What’s Happening Brother
Flyin’ High [[in the Friendly Sky)
Save the Children
God is Love
Mercy Mercy Me [[The Ecology)
Right On
Wholly Holy
Inner City Blues [[Make Me Wanna Holler)
Disc 1, Tracks 1-9 from What’s Going On, Motown LP TS-310, 1971
Disc 1, Tracks 10, 13 and Disc 2, Tracks 3-4, 6-11, 13 previously unreleased
Disc 1, Track 11 previously released on What’s Going On: Deluxe Edition, Motown 440 013 404-2, 2001
Disc 1, Track 12 and Disc 2, Tracks 5, 12, 14, 17-18 previously released on Let’s Get It On: Deluxe Edition, Motown 440 014 757-2, 2001
Disc 1, Tracks 14-15 from Tamla single T-54201, 1971
Disc 1, Tracks 16-17 from Tamla single T-54207, 1971
Disc 1, Tracks 18-19 from Tamla single T-54209, 1971
Disc 2, Tracks 1-2, 15-16 first released on The Master: 1961-1984, Motown 314 530 492-2, 1995
All LP tracks first released on What’s Going On: Deluxe Edition, Motown 440 013 404-2, 2001

tamla617
04-19-2011, 05:06 PM
ace! any prices? is it from motown/universal or hipo?
thanks for info

pj1
04-19-2011, 05:55 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Going-Anniversary-Super-Deluxe/dp/B004V7XWEE/ref=sr_1_8?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1303250085&sr=1-8

pj1
04-19-2011, 05:59 PM
http://www.deepdiscount.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/productID/5E8A9471-22D9-4AB6-B0E4-1551A707DBCB/

pj1
04-19-2011, 06:54 PM
The more I think about it- this edition will be much harder to sell. Why would one need an lp of the Detroit mixes one already has on cd? And so many of the unreleased tracks are instrumentals.. i.e. no vocals by Marvin. Unless as Soulster says the mastering is more natural than previous re-issues of this material.
UMG did release a single cd of the rareties from the double cd set at a later date. Perhaps they'll do the same with this set as a means of making as much money as they can from Marvin's music and legacy.

robbert
04-19-2011, 07:06 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Going-Anniversary-Super-Deluxe/dp/B004V7XWEE/ref=sr_1_8?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1303250085&sr=1-8
Hahaha, look at the titles... Marvin meets Robbie Williams!

marv2
04-19-2011, 08:02 PM
They've been sitting on those 11 tracks all these years? How dare they! This is one that I want to buy!!!

kenneth
04-19-2011, 11:53 PM
Hahaha, look at the titles... Marvin meets Robbie Williams!

And Kevin Spacey!

jaybs
04-20-2011, 03:59 AM
What is the reason for the vinyl LP when the majority of us no longer have a player, at least they could have done an option!

jack020
04-20-2011, 06:11 AM
It's sort of a trend right now: Bowie had his Station To Station album re-released last year in a big boxset with 3 LPs in it and now there is a Layla/Derek & Dominoes boxset that has 2 LPs.

Sotosound
04-20-2011, 07:18 AM
At least the same thing didn't happen with re-issues of stuff that originally came out on 78s, i.e. a collection of shellac discs accompanying a single LP.

soulster
04-20-2011, 12:22 PM
The more I think about it- this edition will be much harder to sell. Why would one need an lp of the Detroit mixes one already has on cd? And so many of the unreleased tracks are instrumentals.. i.e. no vocals by Marvin. Unless as Soulster says the mastering is more natural than previous re-issues of this material.
UMG did release a single cd of the rareties from the double cd set at a later date. Perhaps they'll do the same with this set as a means of making as much money as they can from Marvin's music and legacy.

Well, the Detroit mix has already been issued on CD, so this is a way to get the vinyl fans. I guess it's also a "what if" kind of thing, if the original mixed album had been issued.

I like instrumentals. I don't know how old you are, but I also realize that younger people probably don't understand the concept because instrumentals haven't been in fashion since the mid-80s. It's nice to hear stuff without vocals. The instrumental backing of Gaye's music was good enough to stand on it's own.

paladin
04-20-2011, 12:38 PM
I like instrumentals. I don't know how old you are, but I also realize that younger people probably don't understand the concept because instrumentals haven't been in fashion since the mid-80s. It's nice to hear stuff without vocals. The instrumental backing of Gaye's music was good enough to stand on it's own.

Soulster thats the only thing that has peaked my interest. Its why Trouble Man is one of my favorite Marvin LPs. Although I must agree with Marv, 11 years? 11 frigggin years .....actually much more, makes me want to tell them kiss my azz...... tell you what they better start releasing a lot more of this in the vaults stuff on the Tempts, Tops etc... before we're too dam old to buy them or even care. Another thing is the subj of the vinyl, it too seems like an odd choice since vinyl copies of WGO are readily availible........I dunno...maybe I'll just go sit down and count to ten......

jaybs
04-20-2011, 01:18 PM
Agree with Paladin that there is a limited market for ever and ever for these sets, "What's Going On" may be a little different with the way the album has always been so highly rated by the more popular and rock journalists, add to that the concert being talked about and it may work, but such as The Tempts and The Four Tops time is running out Fast! and that is so the case with the Norman Whitfield album with the Four Tops and the last album recorded with LEVI, it is a crime that it has sat on the shelf for over 11 years now!

marv2
04-20-2011, 09:34 PM
Soulster thats the only thing that has peaked my interest. Its why Trouble Man is one of my favorite Marvin LPs. Although I must agree with Marv, 11 years? 11 frigggin years .....actually much more, makes me want to tell them kiss my azz...... tell you what they better start releasing a lot more of this in the vaults stuff on the Tempts, Tops etc... before we're too dam old to buy them or even care. Another thing is the subj of the vinyl, it too seems like an odd choice since vinyl copies of WGO are readily availible........I dunno...maybe I'll just go sit down and count to ten......

No you done good Paladin! It has always pissed me off that they wait a couple of generations before releasing some of the best rare stuff! The target market for this product is getting older, so I don't understand what all the waiting has been about?. I do that Marvin Gaye was a genius and has a substantial fan base that still listen to his music. They may not be buying as much music as they once did say in their 20's due to other life's responsibilities now, but they would purchase the rare, unique and GOOD offerings if and when they are made available. I still have my original vinyl of What's Going On? in pretty good condition. Problem is I rarely have the time to listen to vinyl by reconnecting my turntable ,etc,etc.

marv2
04-20-2011, 09:37 PM
Agree with Paladin that there is a limited market for ever and ever for these sets, "What's Going On" may be a little different with the way the album has always been so highly rated by the more popular and rock journalists, add to that the concert being talked about and it may work, but such as The Tempts and The Four Tops time is running out Fast! and that is so the case with the Norman Whitfield album with the Four Tops and the last album recorded with LEVI, it is a crime that it has sat on the shelf for over 11 years now!

I've wanted the album Norman produced on the Four Tops for years now. I want someone to go into the vaults and release some things by the Tops we have not heard. In just few more years , it probably won't matter much sadly.

midnightman
04-20-2011, 11:12 PM
Universal Motown could've done like they did with the 40th anniversary of "I Want You Back" and release the 11 tracks as a separate disc and re-release the 2001 deluxe edition.

paladin
04-20-2011, 11:28 PM
I have collected music since I was a child. The very first record that I bought with my own money was "I'll Love You Forever'" by the Holidays, I can remember walking into and hanging out in record shops like they were my second home. I was so excited to purchase "Open The Door To Your Heart'' By D. Banks. I also collected baseball cards, built model cars/airplanes and played marbles.To say that is to say this, they are all related practices because collectors are serious people and I have a very good collection of vinyl, even after all these years. But we all know how fragile some vinyl and tapes can be, so when the technology changed I had my happy ass right there getting pristine copies of my favorite tunes and soon realized that I was buying the same things I already had, but I was too lazy to stop, play, admire and enjoy my collection.

Well "F" that, I'm back to playing and discovering all the things I have and have begun to care less about the things I don't. If I never bought another record/cd, I have enough to play until the end of days and I think I shall. I ain't hating on Marvin or the backassward record companies, we all know what kind of trouble they are in........

I really didn't think about being angry before but I'm mad now and even though I am highly curious and still love to collect, this is about the last dam straw. All of these artists that are no longer with us like Teena Marie/Luther/Gerald Levert are going to have new releases that my Grandchildren are gonna buy ?....oh hell no......thats it guys I'm done, through, fini......

thanks for reading my mini rant.....

Pssst: I was on Oldies.com Today and look what I saw: the Stones are vinyl box sets ...whoa......The Jackson CD includes those Steeltown sides Big Boy and You've Changed.....The Tops......well who knows... this site has improved upon the quality of their product but I mostly purchase jazz cd's from them.

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daddyacey
04-21-2011, 01:01 AM
Alright , we been screwed , cause they held back on some important tracks from this period. Truth is that Marvin played on as well as composed those instrumentals and instrumentals are the base on which he composed his vocals ,'duhhhh'. True it will only be acceptable to die hard Marvin fans. I'm one and I will buy this ,while looking back at Universal as they hump my pocket ,but what can you do when you love the man and his work on the higher scale. Fanatic ,yes ,so sue me. Now excuse me while I order:D.

jack020
04-21-2011, 01:58 AM
I think the Detroit mix of WGO is much better and funkier than the first released mix!

mr soul
04-21-2011, 04:32 AM
dam it!!!, it can't be true, I hear they're taking pre-orders for the 50th extrasupperdeluxebigripoffanniversary edition, ok just a thought, but I had you going.lol.

midnightman
04-21-2011, 04:43 AM
Alright , we been screwed , cause they held back on some important tracks from this period. Truth is that Marvin played on as well as composed those instrumentals and instrumentals are the base on which he composed his vocals ,'duhhhh'. True it will only be acceptable to die hard Marvin fans. I'm one and I will buy this ,while looking back at Universal as they hump my pocket ,but what can you do when you love the man and his work on the higher scale. Fanatic ,yes ,so sue me. Now excuse me while I order:D.

If I had the money and sh**, I'd be doing the same thing you're doing. :D LOL But I heard "Struttin' the Blues", "Mendota" and "I'm Going Home" though. Great tracks. :)

soulster
04-21-2011, 12:11 PM
dam it!!!, it can't be true, I hear they're taking pre-orders for the 50th extrasupperdeluxebigripoffanniversary edition,

That's the norm these days.

daddyacey
04-22-2011, 04:11 AM
midnightman , It's not that I didn't consider the thought of NOT buying this set ,because I do have the original pressing on vinyl and the Deluxe CD set. But the Deluxe set has the live material , otherwise I would have bought this and traded the Deluxe away. With the unreleased tracks on this and the Detroit mix issued on vinyl ,It swayed me to go on and get it. $50 bucks is $50 bucks though and I am now going through that collectors paradox of ,should I wait and see if I can get it cheaper ,and risk it being sold out ,or jump on it now. That happened with me with the Tops ,Lost and Found ,and I caught hell trying to find one cause it sold out fast. I bought the SLY Box for example ,that had the Stand lp. I have the original on vinyl and had a CD copy also. Then they came out with the complete Woodstock recordings and the original Stand in a set.
What could I do but bend over when I had the Woodstock lp ,but the complete Woodstock set???? ,Shiii !!! So with 3 CD copies of Stand ,no doubt a classic album but really............I was able to give the earliest CD copy to a friend who is a little younger than me and didn't have Stand at all ,and that opened the door to him giving me something that I wanted but was putting off buying. It worked out in the end. Thats how you have to juggle when you have this music monkey on your back.

I wound up looking at the Deluxe booklet to refresh myself and found that it said that the outtakes were "disgarded". ????
I guess they were found somehow ,and I wouldn't be surprised if next year they find outtakes from Lets Get It On.
Assume the position , again. But that's bizness:D

uptight
04-22-2011, 05:18 AM
LOL, Daddyacey. See? That's how they getcha!

marv2
04-22-2011, 09:29 AM
midnightman , It's not that I didn't consider the thought of NOT buying this set ,because I do have the original pressing on vinyl and the Deluxe CD set. But the Deluxe set has the live material , otherwise I would have bought this and traded the Deluxe away. With the unreleased tracks on this and the Detroit mix issued on vinyl ,It swayed me to go on and get it. $50 bucks is $50 bucks though and I am now going through that collectors paradox of ,should I wait and see if I can get it cheaper ,and risk it being sold out ,or jump on it now. That happened with me with the Tops ,Lost and Found ,and I caught hell trying to find one cause it sold out fast. I bought the SLY Box for example ,that had the Stand lp. I have the original on vinyl and had a CD copy also. Then they came out with the complete Woodstock recordings and the original Stand in a set.
What could I do but bend over when I had the Woodstock lp ,but the complete Woodstock set???? ,Shiii !!! So with 3 CD copies of Stand ,no doubt a classic album but really............I was able to give the earliest CD copy to a friend who is a little younger than me and didn't have Stand at all ,and that opened the door to him giving me something that I wanted but was putting off buying. It worked out in the end. Thats how you have to juggle when you have this music monkey on your back.

I wound up looking at the Deluxe booklet to refresh myself and found that it said that the outtakes were "disgarded". ????
I guess they were found somehow ,and I wouldn't be surprised if next year they find outtakes from Lets Get It On.
Assume the position , again. But that's bizness:D

Daddy, Daddy, Daddy! hehehehehe......!

paladin
04-22-2011, 12:33 PM
I'll wait to hear the cuts first, but I won't blindly buy anything and if they run out of copies ...well.....

soulster
04-22-2011, 01:51 PM
My main purpose for buying the box is that it might have superior mastering. The deluxe set was a bit too compressed for my taste.

daddyacey
04-23-2011, 04:47 AM
That's another good point soulster. I hadn't noticed the compression issue before. I will be checking that out.

On the subject of this album ,I have to recommend a book by Barry Edmonds ,from 2001 ,titled "What's Going On ? ,Marvin Gaye And The Last Days Of Motown". This is a baaaddd litle red book that has a hell of a lot of info on the issues of the time span when the album was made and facts about the writing and production and recording and mixing of the album. More than any CD booklet could ever have in it. There are so many interviews from insiders and folks that were involved with the album ,firsthand. They have statements from some of the Funk Bros ,saying that Marvin was like an honorary Funk Bro ,just as Preaston was considered the "5th Beatle". Van Petite was to Marvin as Riddle was to Sinatra. The book says that the Detroit Orch enjoyed the hell out of the string and horn sessions and that at one point Marvin was reduced to tears during a playback. It's a very interesting read.

phil
04-23-2011, 07:39 AM
On the subject of this album ,I have to recommend a book by Barry Edmonds ,from 2001 ,titled "What's Going On ? ,Marvin Gaye And The Last Days Of Motown".

Daddy, it's Ben Edmonds. You're right it's a great book !

http://www.amazon.com/Marvin-Gaye-Whats-Going-Motown/dp/1841953148/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303558510&sr=8-1

uptight
04-24-2011, 12:46 AM
My main purpose for buying the box is that it might have superior mastering. The deluxe set was a bit too compressed for my taste.

"It might have better mastering..." Oh, I say that all the time... much to my disappointment. I usually end up playing the Master Series version of WGO from the 90s.

I remember enjoying Ben Edmonds' book immensely.

daddyacey
04-24-2011, 02:01 AM
Thank you Phil , I stand corrected. Old age:D
In reading this book and other research on the WGO album ,I understand that there is much much more to the importance of this album than just a classic Marvin project. It's one of David Van Petite finest works ,it's the first gatefold album packages from MOTOWN ,notorious for its "unique" covers prior to it ,it's the first with arrangers credit on the cover and credits to the musicians. It now not only represents to me an important Marvin project ,but an example of many great individuals work under the direction of Marvin , and thats what makes it classic.

jtf1972
04-24-2011, 02:02 AM
I will be buying this set. I could live without the LP, as this set won't fit on the CD shelf [[+ it would probably be $20 cheaper with just the CD's) but I have been wanting more of the "Just a bunch of guys from Detroit" sessions since the Marvin Master set hit my CD player. :)

I wonder what they're holding back for the 50th anniversary set in a decade...

tamla617
04-24-2011, 02:43 PM
it'll be a reproduction cd and a sepia photo of a record deck and record.by then it'll all be downloads direct to your brain by bluetooth thingy fired thru the skull.people will be looking back thru misted red tinted glasses about the good old mp3s'

soulster
04-24-2011, 08:17 PM
"It might have better mastering..." Oh, I say that all the time... much to my disappointment. I usually end up playing the Master Series version of WGO from the 90s.



Many audiophiles believe the older Motown two-fer CD from the 80s sounds best.

uptight
04-24-2011, 09:04 PM
Yikes! LOL

soulster
04-24-2011, 11:29 PM
Yikes! LOL

Because it wasn't messed with. The converters were primative by today's standards, but the tapes were straight from the master tapes to the digitizer. The 1994 remaster was pretty good, but, after that, everything was shoved through a compressor.

jack020
04-25-2011, 04:08 PM
Good thing I did not sell my two-fer!

soulster
04-25-2011, 08:01 PM
Well, the newer transfers will give you the full range of sound, but it gets messed up in the mastering stage when they decide to compress it. The older CDs sound a bit weak in comparison. It's like you can't win. It's no wonder many have gone back to vinyl.

marv2
04-25-2011, 09:38 PM
I never really given up on my vinyl. Through all the changes I never bought a huge amount of CDs compared to the several thousand vinyl albums I own. Bought a new turntable back in 2001.

soulster
04-26-2011, 01:51 AM
I started buying CDs in 1984. I was very impressed, so impressed that I bought CDs before I had a player. I used to take it out of the case and just marvel at how such clean sound could come off of a shiny little computer disc. Of course, many people thought like me, but I did have a decent turntable and cart [[JVC direct drive TT with an Audio Technica cart). I used Sound Design table mats and preservative, Zerostat guns, all that. I kept my records in the sleeves inserted so the record didn't slide out, stored them standing up...you know...anyway, my first CD player was very bright-sounding and I somehow excused that because I was so enamoured with clean sound. But, I grew weary of the bright, edgy sound.

I stopped buying vinyl in 1988, but picked it back up ten years later. During that time, I replaced my CD player and amp...and...wow! My CD sound got much better. It was smoother, warmer, and had depth! I decided that there was no going back to vinyl. But, I did keep my table hooked up for years, and never used it. It was CDs and cassettes all the way. And I bought three-head decks that were audiophile quality. I bought thousands of CDs in the 80s and 90s! I still have most of them today.

The reason I got back into vinyl was when I finally got a computer in 1997. It finally became affordable for the average person to make CD-Rs at home, and that was the one thing I had dreamed about since the beginning of the CD era. So, after quickly tiring of copying other CDs, it was time to install a sound card and make CDs from records. The first ones I did were awful because the cleanup software in 1998 was crappy, and computer soundcards were all Soundblasters or...gee, I can't even remember the name, but it was bad!

I started buying used records to get all that music that wasn't on CD, and my vinyl collection grew like crazy. Now, I had been buying vinyl since 1970, as a kid, but now I was looking foe places to put all the boxes! people were giving me records. But, I still buy CDs too. Now, I download as well, so you can imagine my collection now. I have since ripped all of my CDs and vinyl to hard drives. Hard drives are much more stable than CD-R/DVD-R. And, I still spin records once in a while. But, mostly, I use my now-audiophile quality gear for needledrops to digital. In fact, i'm about ready to step up to an external USB soundcard so I can make recordings with my laptop on the go. I use a professional card today, and it's much better than the first card, and the Turtle Beach cards I used to use almost a decade ago. And, I use expensive, professional software.

jtf1972
05-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Amazon now shows 5/31 release

http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Going-Anniversary-Super-Deluxe/dp/B004V7XWEE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1303236589&sr=1-1

jack020
05-20-2011, 03:04 AM
http://theseconddisc.com/2011/05/19/marvin-gaye-wgo-interview-1/#more-6842

“I Just Wanna Ask a Question”: Harry Weinger on the “What’s Going On” Box Set

adrian
05-20-2011, 08:44 AM
I'll definitely be buying this. The only question is where? USA or UK. Amazon.com have it for US $45.99 - US $52.36 including shipping. That's £32.27 GBP. It's showing as unavailable on amazon.co.uk but HMV have it for £49.99 GBP with free delivery. That's US $81.14!
I know I may get hit with customs duties etc. but the price difference may just be worth it.

:confused:

adrian
05-20-2011, 08:48 AM
I use a professional card today, and it's much better than the first card, and the Turtle Beach cards I used to use almost a decade ago. And, I use expensive, professional software.
Hi, what equipment do you use, if you don't mind me asking?

jack020
05-24-2011, 01:58 AM
http://theseconddisc.com/2011/05/23/make-me-wanna-holler-a-chat-with-harry-weinger-on-whats-going-on-part-2/#more-6898

More info from Harry on the box-set, also some interesting news about a Trouble Man 40th issue next year, the problems with licences for Motown’s Complete Singles box sets, covering 1972 and Teena Marie re-issussues!

chestersong
05-24-2011, 11:44 AM
can someone offer a simplified explanation of why 1972 creates more problems for licensing, please?

jack020
05-24-2011, 01:21 PM
More on Marvin from Harry:


http://www.soulmusic.com/magawhgoon4a.html

RossHolloway
05-24-2011, 02:10 PM
I have been listening and following and researching all things Motown for 30 years and after reading that article this is the first I've ever heard that Marvin appeared in two movies: Chrome and Hot Leather and The Ballard of Andy Crocker! Can anyone give any details to these movies? I'm off to do more research!

jack020
05-24-2011, 04:24 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066915/


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064061/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00014WAAI/imdb-button/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000787YRC/imdb-button/

soulster
05-25-2011, 09:47 AM
can someone offer a simplified explanation of why 1972 creates more problems for licensing, please?

I may be wrong about the exact year, but that's around the time that the U.S. copyright laws changed or were strengthened.

tamla617
05-25-2011, 11:08 AM
we've had loads of expanded cds from albums post 72,eddie k,david ruffin etc.loads.i cant see why the toughened laws make a difference.i'm sure there is someone or some people holding out.
i saw an interview with harry weinger and he still hoped the "obsticles" could be overcome.
they are waiting for licences for specific tracks.they are either going to wait it out or just stop at 11b.at the moment they do not know which option is the one.that was from yesterday.
he also mentions a expanded troubleman 40th anniversary edition that is in the planning stage and NOT a definate release

RossHolloway
05-25-2011, 11:16 AM
I'm hoping that the licensing issues holding up the 1972 volume also clears the way to continue the series beyond 1972. It really is an exceptional series.

jaybs
06-10-2011, 01:23 PM
At long last I gave in and ordered my copy of the 40th Anniversary set this week, not that the LP will be of much use! I am shocked at the price being quoted so far in the UK for this set, Amazon and HMV are looking for around £48 and Play £54 the cheapest just over £36 Universal UK with free postage!

jack020
06-14-2011, 02:34 AM
On Spotify you can listen to the whole 40th Anniversary boxset of WGO now!

paladin
06-14-2011, 09:17 AM
@ Ross......



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvxuguPs0gw

daddyacey
06-16-2011, 03:12 AM
I just got my 40th in the mail. $48 from IMPORTCD. I just scanned it ,but it's packaged very nice. The instrumentals on disc 2 are interestng. This set is for TRUE MARVIN FANS.

RossHolloway
06-16-2011, 09:42 AM
@ Ross......



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvxuguPs0gw

Paladin- Thanks! You're the best. I've never seen this before.

jaybs
06-22-2011, 11:45 AM
So annoyed! or should that really be frustrated, my Box Set arrived this morning from Universal UK, so much cheaper than Amazon or HMV and free postage, but for some reason the sill Royal Mail van has started to push cards through if you live in a flat/apartment like I do [[ours are only two levels) as it wastes time waiting to get entry, so I have to wait until tomorrow!

Patience is a Virtue!

soulster
06-22-2011, 12:40 PM
So, how's the sound?

daddyacey
06-26-2011, 03:34 AM
I've only pre-viewed thru headphones and it sounded good. My only complaint was about the LP ,which had inaudible scuff marks from manufacturing. It just was not the shiny black finish of the old school vinyl releases and I was surprised to hear from a friend of mine that it was available in store at J&R New York!!

soulster
06-26-2011, 05:51 AM
Can anyone be more specific about the sound of the new CD? I don't want to drop good money on something that I don't need. Audio quality is always part of my buying decisions.

jack020
08-05-2011, 04:20 AM
Anyone bought this and are you happy with it?
I noticed Amazon UK was selling it beginning of august for 29.99 pounds, but now it is selling for 68,99 pounds. Very strange.....

daddyacey
08-05-2011, 06:37 AM
"Anyone bought this and are you happy with it?"

Well that depends on how deep you are into M.P.G. The previous Deluxe CD version is right for most M.P.G. fans. This 40th box would only appeal to those that are curious about the development of M.P.G.'s style from an critical point of view. The remastered album is excellent. The only difference is that this new 40th has the detroit mix on vinyl ,where as with the prior CD Deluxe has it on CD ,in addition to the live version of the album ,which the 40th does not have. The instrumentals on CD-2 of the 40th ,IMO would not be of value to most M.P.G. fans. Mostly very good basic "time period" tracks with some excellent musicians. You can see it was Marvin experimenting outside of the FUNK BROS collective after W.G.O. But that only matters if you're that deep into Marvins work. I just played the DETROIT MIX vinyl the other day and my lady who was in the other room asked me ,"why does that sound so different? " I explained it to her . The final released mix is so unique ,while the DETROIT mix is textbook MOTOWN ,of the day. I.M.O. ,when Marvin went out to L.A. and had access to the additional tools of the studios there ,and the freedom from being away from the MOTOWN environment in DETROIT ,he had the chance to do as he wanted ,go for broke. You really understand how great a masterpiece the released album is when you hear the Detroit mix ,which is a masterpiece in its own right. It all boils down to how deep you are into Marvin.

RossHolloway
08-05-2011, 09:36 AM
"Anyone bought this and are you happy with it?"

Well that depends on how deep you are into M.P.G. The previous Deluxe CD version is right for most M.P.G. fans. This 40th box would only appeal to those that are curious about the development of M.P.G.'s style from an critical point of view. The remastered album is excellent. The only difference is that this new 40th has the detroit mix on vinyl ,where as with the prior CD Deluxe has it on CD ,in addition to the live version of the album ,which the 40th does not have. The instrumentals on CD-2 of the 40th ,IMO would not be of value to most M.P.G. fans. Mostly very good basic "time period" tracks with some excellent musicians. You can see it was Marvin experimenting outside of the FUNK BROS collective after W.G.O. But that only matters if you're that deep into Marvins work. I just played the DETROIT MIX vinyl the other day and my lady who was in the other room asked me ,"why does that sound so different? " I explained it to her . The final released mix is so unique ,while the DETROIT mix is textbook MOTOWN ,of the day. I.M.O. ,when Marvin went out to L.A. and had access to the additional tools of the studios there ,and the freedom from being away from the MOTOWN environment in DETROIT ,he had the chance to do as he wanted ,go for broke. You really understand how great a masterpiece the released album is when you hear the Detroit mix ,which is a masterpiece in its own right. It all boils down to how deep you are into Marvin.

Thanks for the good analysis of this release. I think I have WGO in either 3 or 4 different forms, but I can't help but want this as well. It's like collecting a little bit of history.

tamla617
08-05-2011, 05:21 PM
daddyacey
you just sold me a copy.i was wondering to buy or not to buy you answered the question,thanks.

snakepit
08-16-2011, 02:36 PM
There is a special "What's Going On" show on BBC Radio 2 next MONDAY evening....interviews with MPG, Smokey, Funk Bros etc.

soulster
08-16-2011, 03:59 PM
daddyacey,

I think just the opposite as you. I think the officially released version is closer to textbook Motown. The Detroit mix was a radical departure from what the company was used to, and that's why they were uncomfortable with it.

The vinyl sound marvelous, and the CDs sound very nice. I'm happy.

tamla617
08-17-2011, 03:14 PM
soulster
now if you are happy thats a definate buy.just got to save up now!