Supremes at 60: Mary Wilson Says Reunion "Up to Diana Ross"

[milven]

Another interview, but same questions and answers. Nothing new.

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[captainjames]

Glad to hear Mary say that she has moved on. Please Mary move on.

[blackguy69]

Maybe she would move on if we as fans stop hoping for or stop bringing it up.

[jobeterob]

I have to say we’ve discussed it all many times, the threads seem to be declining, there’s not much dissension any more, there are no tours, no big in person shows - are things getting a little stale - Mary and the Supremes included?

[Bluebrock]

Here we go again.......

[milven]

Maybe she would move on if we as fans stop hoping for or stop bringing it up.

It is not the fans that are constantly bringing it up. Even in the pandemic, Mary is finding ways to do interviews and the interviewers use her as a conduit to talk about Diana and/or The Supremes. Very few questions about Mary herself. We have heard the stories a million times. How did the group start? And will there ever be a re-union? Mary keeps leaving the door open and saying that it is up to Diana.

Twenty years ago Barbara Walters asked Diana if there anything that she could say to Mary to make it possible for her to work with Mary. Diana said that she knows basically in her heart that it would be very hard for her to work with Mary on stage. Diana said that a certain point she needs to let go because she did try.

Diana let it go. If Mary also lets it go instead of saying its up to Diana, then the fans will stop hoping.

I see no problem reporting these Mary interviews, but we, as fans should take them at face value. They give Mary some publicity, but they should not give us hope for a re-union. I read and listen to almost everything about the Supremes, including the Mary interviews. But, as far as hoping for a re-union, most of us fans have moved on a long time ago. Mary should too.

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[captainjames]

True,,, I think if Mary just said once …"Its not going to happen", and that time has come and gone it would end there. I believe Diana has made sure when she is interviewed that you drop that question or at least the folks interviewing her concentrate on where she is going next.

[BobbyC]

It's been time to move on for 22 years.

[Bluebrock]

True,,, I think if Mary just said once …"Its not going to happen", and that time has come and gone it would end there. I believe Diana has made sure when she is interviewed that you drop that question or at least the folks interviewing her concentrate on where she is going next.

Whilst i agree with what you say, if Mary did actually come out and say it's not going to happen it would close the door on many future interview opportunities for her.
I somehow don't see journalists beating down her door asking when her long promised new album is being released or when can we expect Red Hot expanded edition to hit the streets.
Mary is smart enough to know her connection to Diana is her gateway to future publicity.
We all know Diana will not entertain the idea of sharing a stage with Mary again.
She moved on from that many years ago. If Mary were to do the same she may as well hang up her microphone right now, and we all know that will not happen unless the pandemic forces her to retire.

[jobeterob]

Whilst i agree with what you say, if Mary did actually come out and say it's not going to happen it would close the door on many future interview opportunities for her.
I somehow don't see journalists beating down her door asking when her long promised new album is being released or when can we expect Red Hot expanded edition to hit the streets.
Mary is smart enough to know her connection to Diana is her gateway to future publicity.
We all know Diana will not entertain the idea of sharing a stage with Mary again.
She moved on from that many years ago. If Mary were to do the same she may as well hang up her microphone right now, and we all know that will not happen unless the pandemic forces her to retire.

Very true. And no one cares except for us long time fans and I suspect we are dwindling a little bit.

I think it's becoming pretty clear that there isn't going to be a lot of concerts and touring for the majority of this year and not a lot of air travel.

I wonder how many of these heritage artists will be able to start again whenever that time comes.

[floyjoy678]

Hey guys, Mary clearly states in this interview she's moved on. I think all of you should too...

[mwmr]

Whilst i agree with what you say, if Mary did actually come out and say it's not going to happen it would close the door on many future interview opportunities for her.
I somehow don't see journalists beating down her door asking when her long promised new album is being released or when can we expect Red Hot expanded edition to hit the streets.
Mary is smart enough to know her connection to Diana is her gateway to future publicity.
We all know Diana will not entertain the idea of sharing a stage with Mary again.
She moved on from that many years ago. If Mary were to do the same she may as well hang up her microphone right now, and we all know that will not happen unless the pandemic forces her to retire.

people and the media will always be interested and want to speak with Mary... she was, always will be a `supreme’.

ps Red Hot was a single .. not the title of her Motown album [[and some of us do want to see her album reissued and expanded )

[Boogiedown]

good for Mary. Never say never .

Maybe Diana needs to listen to her own messaging

reach out and touch somebody's hand make this word a better place if you can. In these times - what a powerful imagery , these two showing the world how important/easy/desirable it is to get along

And if we can't even connect with those people who so greatly shared in such important parts in our lives [[especially when reaching an age when so few are left) ....what hope do we as a universal people have...

And I'm not talking about scheming up a cash-in world tour ....how about inviting someone over for some friendly tea in the garden ...[[ and let Evan leak a couple of images off his cell phone)

[blackguy69]

For those who didn’t read the answer to the question here it is:

Do you think that ended the chance of a reunion with Diana?
Well, let’s put it this way: It’s really up to Diana. I don't think she wants to do that. It doesn’t make sense unless you come together lovingly. Or at least have an understanding. It can be an understanding, that’s fine. But I don't think she does want to. So therefore I'm going on with my life. I look at it like this, especially with this pandemic: Who knows when the end may come. And at 76 and a half years old I'm not going to sit around waiting for something. As my mother used to say, don't cry over spilled milk. I have too much to live for now and be happy about.

[jobeterob]

For those who didn’t read the answer to the question here it is:

Do you think that ended the chance of a reunion with Diana?
Well, let’s put it this way: It’s really up to Diana. I don't think she wants to do that. It doesn’t make sense unless you come together lovingly. Or at least have an understanding. It can be an understanding, that’s fine. But I don't think she does want to. So therefore I'm going on with my life. I look at it like this, especially with this pandemic: Who knows when the end may come. And at 76 and a half years old I'm not going to sit around waiting for something. As my mother used to say, don't cry over spilled milk. I have too much to live for now and be happy about.

Yea it's a no.

Still a wee bit sad and sorry; I bet they are too.

[kpitt1204]

Mary Wilson doesn’t have to live in anyone’s shadow. Everyone who needs to know, knows who she is. I think it’s great that she doesn’t say “It’s not going to happen”. Why give up hope? She doesn’t seem bothered by it at this point. It would be great for us, the fans. Financially, it would be great for them, but neither of them needs the reunion. If it happens, I’ll buy my ticket!

[RanRan79]

Mary Wilson doesn’t have to live in anyone’s shadow. Everyone who needs to know, knows who she is. I think it’s great that she doesn’t say “It’s not going to happen”. Why give up hope? She doesn’t seem bothered by it at this point. It would be great for us, the fans. Financially, it would be great for them, but neither of them needs the reunion. If it happens, I’ll buy my ticket!

Basically how I feel. I do believe there will never be a reunion tour. While very youthful, these women are closer to 80 than 70 and I just don't see throngs of audiences packing into venues in the future to see it. I'll always cross my fingers for a one night show, maybe for charity, or maybe a television appearance like the Grammys or something. One thing we should do is stop acting like stranger things have never happened. There has been some bad feelings between these two women, words have been said, books have been written, but it's not like either woman broke up the other woman's happy home or molested the other's children or any such line that can never be uncrossed. My gut tells me that unless someone with influence in her life ever appeals to her nostalgic side about it, Diana has exed a Mary Supremes reunion off of her to do list. Mary on the other hand, being very nostalgic, will probably never let it go in her heart, even if she says she has with her lips. Plus, if she says with finality that it'll never happen, and then Diana does change her mind, that could complicate things. Wise business move to keep the door open. I do believe Mary when she says she has other things in her life that keep her happy and occupied. There's always this talk about how much Diana loves her family and thus she doesn't have room in her life for anything else. I don't know why there's a thought that Mary's family isn't taking up space in her life, making this stage of life rewarding as the matriarch of a family. I doubt she keeps Diana on her mind as much as many fans do.

[sup_fan]

Basically how I feel. I do believe there will never be a reunion tour. While very youthful, these women are closer to 80 than 70 and I just don't see throngs of audiences packing into venues in the future to see it. I'll always cross my fingers for a one night show, maybe for charity, or maybe a television appearance like the Grammys or something. One thing we should do is stop acting like stranger things have never happened. There has been some bad feelings between these two women, words have been said, books have been written, but it's not like either woman broke up the other woman's happy home or molested the other's children or any such line that can never be uncrossed. My gut tells me that unless someone with influence in her life ever appeals to her nostalgic side about it, Diana has exed a Mary Supremes reunion off of her to do list. Mary on the other hand, being very nostalgic, will probably never let it go in her heart, even if she says she has with her lips. Plus, if she says with finality that it'll never happen, and then Diana does change her mind, that could complicate things. Wise business move to keep the door open. I do believe Mary when she says she has other things in her life that keep her happy and occupied. There's always this talk about how much Diana loves her family and thus she doesn't have room in her life for anything else. I don't know why there's a thought that Mary's family isn't taking up space in her life, making this stage of life rewarding as the matriarch of a family. I doubt she keeps Diana on her mind as much as many fans do.

I think mary is working more because she has to.

also i think Mary is close with her family too. i've never really heard too much negative about her as a mother so i would assume she too is a strong one. of course there was the terrible tragedy with her son's death. just a hideous thing for a parent to experience

my thoughts are that DR made a LOT of money in the 80s. that allowed her to set herself up for life. no idea what she did in terms of savings during the years.

royalties don't have the standard Social Security deductions that a typical salary does. so that means the entertainer would need to set up their own pre and post tax savings options. and most people maximize their earnings and retirement savings in the 30s - early 50s.

Mary and Diana turned 30 in 1974 and 50 in 1994. During these years Diana really supercharged her income with the RCA deal and investments. Mary struggled during many of these years, from a financial standpoint. just by going on her books, the late 70s and 80s were harder for her. her books helped bring in more money. don't know how much she was able to save for retirement.

[jobeterob]

If you go look up Net Worth you see some surprising figures - Tracey $20 million, Evan $25 million, Diana $250 million, Mary $8 million

[blackguy69]

And how accurate is that list? That same list has Flo worth 400,000
If you go look up Net Worth you see some surprising figures - Tracey $20 million, Evan $25 million, Diana $250 million, Mary $8 million

[captainjames]

Yes Mary struggled back in the day but she reached out to Diana for help and Diana helped her more than once. Mary is in good place in her life now because of a book that was written that ended a friendship.

When Diana left Motown [[and thank GOD she did) she was left with around $200 thousand. She had learned from Gordy and got smart.

I thought RTL or a reunion would only add or start another book from Mary.

[PeaceNHarmony]

There's always a reek of desperation when Wilson brings up Diana. Surely she can't really think there is any desire for a reunion after she hot-messed M25 and RTL. The most informative thing I've read in years was the recent re-post about 'Farewell' that mentioned how difficult it was to edit good takes due [[partly) to Wilson's nightly snarky remarks, on stage, about Diana during the farewell run of live dates. This information came from a non-partisan person who was editing the tapes so is most likely true. Though a vastly different situation, I can't help but thinking about tomorrow's Biden-Harris inauguration and the ex-prez-to-be's refusal to attend the event. Some people just can't see beyond themselves, even in high-profile situations.

[blackguy69]

Chile please you’re acting like no one here doesn’t know this story Deke Richards told a few years back. And please don’t put words in his mouth. Snarky isn’t what he described as far as what Mary said that it was a sharply edged quip or 2. Which could mean a lot but since we weren’t there we don’t know.

There's always a reek of desperation when Wilson brings up Diana. Surely she can't really think there is any desire for a reunion after she hot-messed M25 and RTL. The most informative thing I've read in years was the recent re-post about 'Farewell' that mentioned how difficult it was to edit good takes due [[partly) to Wilson's nightly snarky remarks, on stage, about Diana during the farewell run of live dates. This information came from a non-partisan person who was editing the tapes so is most likely true. Though a vastly different situation, I can't help but thinking about tomorrow's Biden-Harris inauguration and the ex-prez-to-be's refusal to attend the event. Some people just can't see beyond themselves, even in high-profile situations.

[Ollie9]

Chile please you’re acting like no one here doesn’t know this story Deke Richards told a few years back. And please don’t put words in his mouth. Snarky isn’t what he described as far as what Mary said that it was a sharply edged quip or 2. Which could mean a lot but since we weren’t there we don’t know.


Well said blackguy69. I think it important to stick to the truth as best we can. A sharply edged quip is hardly a snarky remark, unless of course it complies with a certain agenda. :eek:
Mary cast as the wicked Supreme once again. Who would have thought?.

[sup_fan]

Chile please you’re acting like no one here doesn’t know this story Deke Richards told a few years back. And please don’t put words in his mouth. Snarky isn’t what he described as far as what Mary said that it was a sharply edged quip or 2. Which could mean a lot but since we weren’t there we don’t know.


i'm assuming that none of us here on SD were at the final Farewell show - maybe with the exception of Randy or Russ. so we don't know exactly what Mary's quips and remarks were. Deke's post however certainly didn't make these out to be innocent little one-liners. Were they dripping with hate and resentment? probably not. were they revealing a glimpse of some of the behind the scenes angst? possibly. it has been well documented that by 69, the group was essentially dysfunctional and simply going through a LONG series of required events before they could finally split.

as for Mary's response to the never ending questions about a reunion, there isn't much more to say. I don't know that saying "it's all up to diana" makes much sense as it sort of shifts the blame for the lack of a reunion onto Diana's shoulders. Mary might want one but she definitely needs to acknowledge her role in the two previous attempts.

Perhaps a more diplomatic response would be say "singing together on stage is probably not likely since we're getting older, focusing on our families. But we were together and had a marvelous time at the premier of the Motown Musical, all of these great old Sullivan clips are coming online now. so a reunion today really probably wouldn't be what everyone had in mind so let's enjoy the history instead."

[Boogiedown]

For those who didn’t read the answer to the question here it is:

Do you think that ended the chance of a reunion with Diana?
Well, let’s put it this way: It’s really up to Diana. I don't think she wants to do that. It doesn’t make sense unless you come together lovingly. Or at least have an understanding. It can be an understanding, that’s fine. But I don't think she does want to. So therefore I'm going on with my life. I look at it like this, especially with this pandemic: Who knows when the end may come. And at 76 and a half years old I'm not going to sit around waiting for something. As my mother used to say, don't cry over spilled milk. I have too much to live for now and be happy about.

There would have to be a sense of genuine fun and of purpose .Otherwise it would likely be bittersweet at this point, maybe even sad to witness. All this wasted time , hating.

And Mary as one Supreme , with ?? as the other , standing behind Diana Ross while Diana leads isn't going to fly.
[[On top of that , I suspect Mary has the stronger voice at this time [[?))

I think the best avenue is for Diana to invite Mary to join her on this supposed new album. One song , not a remake, and especially not of one of their old tunes or a medley. Something written with the two of them in mind , maybe playing off the word " supreme", incorporating it somehow , and perhaps its upbeat with a Motown feel to it .

Too bad Paul Jabarra isn't around for the assignment . I 'm picturing a poignant frolic around a title like "WE LIVED OUR DREAMS, GIRL!"

That might provide a source for a cleansing [[cathartic) for both of them !!:cool:

[captainjames]

Well said blackguy69. I think it important to stick to the truth as best we can. A sharply edged quip is hardly a snarky remark, unless of course it complies with a certain agenda. :eek:
Mary cast as the wicked Supreme once again. Who would have thought?.

Does any one remember on the LP where Mary is doing some of her quick remarks and Diana says ...............""""OHHH shut up.""""" ? When I heard this for the first time I knew something was going on at that one of several final shows. Diana telling Mary to shut up meant she was being obnoxious.

[Ollie9]

Does any one remember on the LP where Mary is doing some of her quick remarks and Diana says ...............""""OHHH shut up.""""" ? When I heard this for the first time I knew something was going on at that one of several final shows. Diana telling Mary to shut up meant she was being obnoxious.

I wouldn’t say Diana was being obnoxious, but telling someone to shut up does sound rather rude. I’m sure they loved each other really.

[reese]

Does any one remember on the LP where Mary is doing some of her quick remarks and Diana says ...............""""OHHH shut up.""""" ? When I heard this for the first time I knew something was going on at that one of several final shows. Diana telling Mary to shut up meant she was being obnoxious.

I think that was just patter to set up their performance of AQUARIUS/LET THE SUNSHINE IN. If Deke thought that was a dig, he would have cut it out. And if I remember correctly, Diana said something like "Everyone today is following the stars. Ah, shut up!" The "Ah, shut up!" in reference to herself.

[Ollie9]

I think that was just patter to set up their performance of AQUARIUS/LET THE SUNSHINE IN. If Deke thought that was a dig, he would have cut it out.

Exactly reece. It’s called stage banter.

[jobeterob]

I never noticed anything about Aquarius other than it was boring and too long. As a historical record, I guess it's nice to have.

I bet I haven't listened to it since 1969 or 1970 - and I think the valuable piece on the record was the version of Didn't We.

I've never noticed anything at all about the Supremes on it.

[sup_fan]

while i don't listen to Side 3 of Farewell often, i think it's an important inclusion on the album and equally important as part of the overall Supremes discography and story.

If you line up their live albums that were released at the time, it makes such an incredible story.

Listen to their excitement and showmanship on Copa, then how it evolves to TOTT. Diana really begins to emerge strongly as a versatile superstar on TCB and [[pars of) GIT.

you then culminate in farewell. listen to how diana handles the crowd on Sunshine. there isn't 1 bit of awkwardness or insecurity. she is in TOTAL command but it was SOOOOOOO unique and different. very rarely do musicians or stars leave the security of the stage to mingle with the audience. and to do so in the middle of a song, make people stand up and sing.

We've all become highly accustomed to this now due to the way she utilized Reach Out and Touch in her shows. today it's no surprise to see or think of Diana doing a singalong. But in 1969 - WOW!!!!!!

[floyjoy678]

It is not the fans that are constantly bringing it up. Even in the pandemic, Mary is finding ways to do interviews and the interviewers use her as a conduit to talk about Diana and/or The Supremes. Very few questions about Mary herself. We have heard the stories a million times. How did the group start? And will there ever be a re-union? Mary keeps leaving the door open and saying that it is up to Diana.

Twenty years ago Barbara Walters asked Diana if there anything that she could say to Mary to make it possible for her to work with Mary. Diana said that she knows basically in her heart that it would be very hard for her to work with Mary on stage. Diana said that a certain point she needs to let go because she did try.

Diana let it go. If Mary also lets it go instead of saying its up to Diana, then the fans will stop hoping.

I see no problem reporting these Mary interviews, but we, as fans should take them at face value. They give Mary some publicity, but they should not give us hope for a re-union. I read and listen to almost everything about the Supremes, including the Mary interviews. But, as far as hoping for a re-union, most of us fans have moved on a long time ago. Mary should too.

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What a great picture of Diana and Mary. Makes me sad though that Flo is not with us to be a part of those photo ops when they happen.

[captainjames]

I wouldn’t say Diana was being obnoxious, but telling someone to shut up does sound rather rude. I’m sure they loved each other really.

I am sorry you misread my point I was trying to make. I was actually saying Mary was being obnoxious.

[Ollie9]

I am sorry you misread my point I was trying to make. I was actually saying Mary was being obnoxious.

Must have been a fun run of concerts with Mary being obnoxious all over the place. :eek:
Poor Diana.

[Bluebrock]

Must have been a fun run of concerts with Mary being obnoxious all over the place. :eek:
Poor Diana.

Ha ha. As you know only too well Ollie they can both be very difficult individuals. Diana demands centre stage at all times and does not wish to share the spotlight with anyone, whilst Mary was jealous and envious that Diana got all the media attention and made things as uncomfortable as possible for Diana.
Someone should have banged their heads together and told them to stop behaving like immature teenagers.
I am sure both ladies would have behaved differently when they looked back at their antics.

[captainjames]

Yes, I think all their remarks and stage banter almost cost the fans a Farewell album. So, my hats off to Deke for being able to cut out what he saw as being inappropriate.

[milven]

Sometimes the new interviews that Mary gives in which she mentions about it being up to Diana if there is to be a re-union inspires other articles to be written which bring up old info and old interviews.

Here is a new article that came out this week, but it is just a rehash of old negative stuff that Mary said years ago in old interviews or in her books. We, as fans, know it is all regurgitated old stuff, but here it is again for others , who are not in the know, to read. This one says that Diana tried to sabotage the other members of the Supremes.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/did-diana-ross-try-to-sabotage-the-other-members-of-the-supremes.html/

I still think the Supreme legacy would be better off if Mary did not continually say that a re-union is up to Diana.

[Ollie9]

Ha ha. As you know only too well Ollie they can both be very difficult individuals. Diana demands centre stage at all times and does not wish to share the spotlight with anyone, whilst Mary was jealous and envious that Diana got all the media attention and made things as uncomfortable as possible for Diana.
Someone should have banged their heads together and told them to stop behaving like immature teenagers.
I am sure both ladies would have behaved differently when they looked back at their antics.

An honest evaluation Bluebrock.

[blackguy69]

This doesn’t look like an actual interview. It looks more like pieces of past interviews put together to make an article.

Sometimes the new interviews that Mary gives in which she mentions about it being up to Diana if there is to be a re-union inspires other articles to be written which bring up old info and old interviews.

Here is a new article that came out this week, but it is just a rehash of old negative stuff that Mary said years ago in old interviews or in her books. We, as fans, know it is all regurgitated old stuff, but here it is again for others , who are not in the know, to read. This one says that Diana tried to sabotage the other members of the Supremes.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/did-diana-ross-try-to-sabotage-the-other-members-of-the-supremes.html/

I still think the Supreme legacy would be better off if Mary did not continually say that a re-union is up to Diana.

[thanxal]

Ha ha. As you know only too well Ollie they can both be very difficult individuals. Diana demands centre stage at all times and does not wish to share the spotlight with anyone, whilst Mary was jealous and envious that Diana got all the media attention and made things as uncomfortable as possible for Diana.
Someone should have banged their heads together and told them to stop behaving like immature teenagers.
I am sure both ladies would have behaved differently when they looked back at their antics.


An honest evaluation Bluebrock.
I agree. Non-partisan and honest.

[captainjames]

I agree as well but not very professional for a group that has been in business for so any years.

[blackguy69]

Honest I agree non partisan that’s a different story

I agree. Non-partisan and honest.

[TheMotownManiac]

Exactly reece. It’s called stage banter.

Deke told me the same thing about the farewell album, that Mary was out of control and made so many rude, snotty and/or bitchy remarks, It made editing a usable performance a total nightmare for him. He said Berry was livid, and Cindy told that there was a lot of animosity on stage in the last shows. She didn’t blame Mary per se, but she did say, rather coyly, that Mary had been drinking champagne all night and left it at that. She also talked about the party afterwords, and how awkward it was, except for Barry who was absolutely the happiest man in the world. She said she was worried about how the group would fare after Diana left, and that night at the party, Also began to feel sorry for Diana because she was moving into uncharted territory. She said that she knew Diana was liked by their audiences but didn’t know if that was going to work as a solo, and if it didn’t work out, would she come back to the group? That thought brought up a lot of concerns for her, so, while everyone else was celebrating, she began to have doubts that made her uncomfortable, Mary had been hostile to Diana on stage, and was completely ignoring her at the party while they were doing press and posing for pictures. She said Mary left kind of early without really saying she was leaving the party for good. She said Diana was acting like she was enjoying the party, but “was off.” She was looking forward to having a happy group dynamic again, not knowing that it would be that was again. I hope her book comes out sometime.

[RanRan79]

I thought RTL or a reunion would only add or start another book from Mary.

It did allow Mary to add another part to the publication of the combined autobios. I don't know if combining the two books was already in progress or if the RTL drama resulted in the opportunity to merge the two. I have a copy of the combined books and it's very well done. I don't ever pull out the stand alone copies of each book anymore.

Had everything taken place the way it should have, had everyone done what she needed to do to make it a smooth go, RTL could've been an excellent addendum to Mary's books.

[RanRan79]

while i don't listen to Side 3 of Farewell often, i think it's an important inclusion on the album and equally important as part of the overall Supremes discography and story.

If you line up their live albums that were released at the time, it makes such an incredible story.

Listen to their excitement and showmanship on Copa, then how it evolves to TOTT. Diana really begins to emerge strongly as a versatile superstar on TCB and [[pars of) GIT.

you then culminate in farewell. listen to how diana handles the crowd on Sunshine. there isn't 1 bit of awkwardness or insecurity. she is in TOTAL command but it was SOOOOOOO unique and different. very rarely do musicians or stars leave the security of the stage to mingle with the audience. and to do so in the middle of a song, make people stand up and sing.

We've all become highly accustomed to this now due to the way she utilized Reach Out and Touch in her shows. today it's no surprise to see or think of Diana doing a singalong. But in 1969 - WOW!!!!!!

I think "Aquarius" would've been fine with just the Motown stars included. The other folks were unnecessary. But Diana is in fine form and Cindy was even given a chance to let loose. I love the inclusion of "The Impossible Dream" on this album, but was a bit disappointed in "Someday We'll Be Together" and it's toned down musical backing. I wonder if that was a decision for the very last performance or if the other nights also had them using the same arrangement. The ladies all sounded great on it though.

[RanRan79]

I still think the Supreme legacy would be better off if Mary did not continually say that a re-union is up to Diana.

But why wouldn't she say that if it's the truth? Lets be real, Diana calls Mary up tomorrow and says "lets do this for real, the right way", before Diana could hang the phone up, Mary would already be on a plane.:p That is, of course, if Mary has learned anything from what happened last time. I suspect that Mary would love nothing more than to be able to stand on stage as a Supreme alongside the last living other original at least one more time. And who knows, Diana might want the same thing, even if her good sense is telling her to leave that door closed. [[We all have had things we wanted but knew it would probably never be.) I think most of us with common sense knows that the ball is always in Diana's court. She's the bigger star, the biggest name recognition, the biggest concert draw, the biggest viewer draw. She'll always have more power than Mary. Add to that, it would just be bad business sense for Mary to make such a public declaration. What if she says that and meanwhile Diana has been toying with an idea but sees what Mary says and then Diana says to herself "Well that's that". Obviously that's no big deal to Diana financially, but it could end a nice little taste of change for Mary. She's wise to keep tossing that ball back to Diana. How about if Diana's so against it she just come right out and say "Please stop asking Mary Wilson about me and a Supremes reunion. I'm not interested. I'll never be interested. Tell the fans to turn their attention to reuniting Martha and the original Vandellas and leave this issue alone." At that point Mary has no choice but to echo the same sentiment.

[TheMotownManiac]

But why wouldn't she say that if it's the truth? Lets be real, Diana calls Mary up tomorrow and says "lets do this for real, the right way", before Diana could hang the phone up, Mary would already be on a plane.:p That is, of course, if Mary has learned anything from what happened last time. I suspect that Mary would love nothing more than to be able to stand on stage as a Supreme alongside the last living other original at least one more time. And who knows, Diana might want the same thing, even if her good sense is telling her to leave that door closed. [[We all have had things we wanted but knew it would probably never be.) I think most of us with common sense knows that the ball is always in Diana's court. She's the bigger star, the biggest name recognition, the biggest concert draw, the biggest viewer draw. She'll always have more power than Mary. Add to that, it would just be bad business sense for Mary to make such a public declaration. What if she says that and meanwhile Diana has been toying with an idea but sees what Mary says and then Diana says to herself "Well that's that". Obviously that's no big deal to Diana financially, but it could end a nice little taste of change for Mary. She's wise to keep tossing that ball back to Diana. How about if Diana's so against it she just come right out and say "Please stop asking Mary Wilson about me and a Supremes reunion. I'm not interested. I'll never be interested. Tell the fans to turn their attention to reuniting Martha and the original Vandellas and leave this issue alone." At that point Mary has no choice but to echo the same sentiment.

it may be that Ross might not care if mary gets asked about it or not. She’s holed up in SoCal and spent the holidays in Malibu with Rhonda, I think she doesn’t care. I’m told she’s quite committed to avoiding COVID and, having just been released from 7 weeks in the hospital with it, I’m glad she’s so dedicated because IF you get sick from it, it sucks. Mary is also being careful.

[daviddh]

Only way I see it is if Diana decides to call it a day and as a last farewell show invites the other ladies on stage.
I really don't remember her sharing the stage with anyone over the years.
I remember during the central park show thinking it would be great if.....
Never mind

[TNSUN]

I was just thinking that with the top 12 #1 Songs by The Supremes, one has the basis for a Broadway Musical Play. Add some dramatic insight about the formation of these songs and it would be a great show!

[floyjoy678]

I was just thinking that with the top 12 #1 Songs by The Supremes, one has the basis for a Broadway Musical Play. Add some dramatic insight about the formation of these songs and it would be a great show!

There would be a lot of breaking up going on in that play lol

[reese]

It did allow Mary to add another part to the publication of the combined autobios. I don't know if combining the two books was already in progress or if the RTL drama resulted in the opportunity to merge the two. I have a copy of the combined books and it's very well done. I don't ever pull out the stand alone copies of each book anymore.

Had everything taken place the way it should have, had everyone done what she needed to do to make it a smooth go, RTL could've been an excellent addendum to Mary's books.

I think RTL was already being discussed when the combo DREAMGIRL/SUPREME FAITH was being put together. In the new section, Mary writes about the fake Supremes groups as well as the FLOS. She ends the paragraph by saying she thought the only way to end such "erzatz'' groups was for her, Diana, and Cindy to get together for a reunion tour. I remember thinking that sounded odd but rather coincidental in retrospect.

[Ollie9]

Deke told me the same thing about the farewell album, that Mary was out of control and made so many rude, snotty and/or bitchy remarks, It made editing a usable performance a total nightmare for him. He said Berry was livid, and Cindy told that there was a lot of animosity on stage in the last shows. She didn’t blame Mary per se, but she did say, rather coyly, that Mary had been drinking champagne all night and left it at that. She also talked about the party afterwords, and how awkward it was, except for Barry who was absolutely the happiest man in the world. She said she was worried about how the group would fare after Diana left, and that night at the party, Also began to feel sorry for Diana because she was moving into uncharted territory. She said that she knew Diana was liked by their audiences but didn’t know if that was going to work as a solo, and if it didn’t work out, would she come back to the group? That thought brought up a lot of concerns for her, so, while everyone else was celebrating, she began to have doubts that made her uncomfortable, Mary had been hostile to Diana on stage, and was completely ignoring her at the party while they were doing press and posing for pictures. She said Mary left kind of early without really saying she was leaving the party for good. She said Diana was acting like she was enjoying the party, but “was off.” She was looking forward to having a happy group dynamic again, not knowing that it would be that was again. I hope her book comes out sometime.

If Mary was indeed acting that way there had to be a good reason. Both women were under a lot of pressure at the time. Diana caught up with her impending solo career and Mary anxious over the future of the Supremes.
As she has occasionally demonstrated, Diana is perhaps not always the best at considering or understanding other people’s feelings. Conflict can often be avoided by just a little empathy being shown. Did Cindy ever complete a book?
At this point in time, I can’t for the life of me imagine Diana giving two hoots about a reunion. Life is sweet for her right now. Why on earth would she want such complications?.

[Bluebrock]

If Mary was indeed acting that way there had to be a good reason. Both women were under a lot of pressure at the time. Diana caught up with her impending solo career and Mary anxious over the future of the Supremes.
As she has occasionally demonstrated, Diana is perhaps not always the best at considering or understanding other people’s feelings. Conflict can often be avoided by just a little empathy being shown. Did Cindy ever complete a book?
At this point in time, I can’t for the life of me imagine Diana giving two hoots about a reunion. Life is sweet for her right now. Why on earth would she want such complications?.

Spot on Ollie. There is no way Ms Ross will ever share a stage with Mary again. Why on earth would she put herself through all that again? She claims to be the happiest she has ever been in her whole life, and i for one believe her.
As you quite rightly say she has not always been the most thoughtful or considerate person. It's a trait she has frequently displayed in varying measures. She can be damned difficult to please, and she is capable of digging those stilletto heals in very deeply when the spirit moves her. All this of course does not excuse Mary's bad behaviour on numerous occasions. There have been major faults on both sides over the years, and there is no way Miss Ross wishes to revisit those situations.
On a personal note i wanted the reunion 21 years ago, but now the very prospect fills me with dread.

[floyjoy678]

Spot on Ollie. There is no way Ms Ross will ever share a stage with Mary again. Why on earth would she put herself through all that again? She claims to be the happiest she has ever been in her whole life, and i for one believe her.
As you quite rightly say she has not always been the most thoughtful or considerate person. It's a trait she has frequently displayed in varying measures. She can be damned difficult to please, and she is capable of digging those stilletto heals in very deeply when the spirit moves her. All this of course does not excuse Mary's bad behaviour on numerous occasions. There have been major faults on both sides over the years, and there is no way Miss Ross wishes to revisit those situations.
On a personal note i wanted the reunion 21 years ago, but now the very prospect fills me with dread.

I wouldn't want a reunion either. I just think they're both past that point. I would welcome a sit down reunion where they reminisce together or something like that.

For me a true Supremes reunion would have to include Florence Ballard and obviously that was never going to happen after 1976.

[floyjoy678]

I remember back then Diana was bringing up on talk shows a couple of times that Flo was in the original Supremes and not Cindy and I think she was trying to make that a point that it was never going to be a true reunion.

[RanRan79]

it may be that Ross might not care if mary gets asked about it or not. She’s holed up in SoCal and spent the holidays in Malibu with Rhonda, I think she doesn’t care. I’m told she’s quite committed to avoiding COVID and, having just been released from 7 weeks in the hospital with it, I’m glad she’s so dedicated because IF you get sick from it, it sucks. Mary is also being careful.

First of all, glad you're doing better Maniac. This illness is taking people out left and right, and of the ones who survive, it's still a horrifying experience. There's a certain somebody with a lot of blood on his hands...

Anyway, I find it hard to believe that Diana even knows if Mary is being interviewed at all. I can't imagine either lady keeping up with what the other is doing via interviews. So Diana might not care and she also might not know. My scenario is based on the chance that Diana knows Mary continues to say it's up to Diana, and if annoyed, Diana could zap it on her own.

[RanRan79]

At this point in time, I can’t for the life of me imagine Diana giving two hoots about a reunion. Life is sweet for her right now. Why on earth would she want such complications?.

That's the thing though, Ollie. If done right, there wouldn't need to be complications. A tour is out of the question at this point. Maybe a do over might have worked around 2005-2007, but I really don't see there ever being the lucrative possibilities of a tour that existed when RTL was put together. In my mind the only options are:

1) A one night show, maybe Detroit, for charity purposes.

2) A Grammy performance, or other high profile award show.

3) A Supremes documentary with a reunion performance, maybe in Hitsville, to conclude the film.

4) Recording a new song for a Supremes compilation.

When RTL took place, both women were in their mid 50s, far too old to be stuck on nonsense, yet there they were. One would hope that was the last hurrah for their immaturity, that in their late 70s they both would be so far above the bullshit that any of the options I outlined above would go off without any ridiculous hitches.

I stopped holding my breath and crossing my fingers about a reunion years ago. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that I do not want the story of the original Supremes to end with that RTL bullshit. After everything the Supremes accomplished, and what they've meant to people, the legacy of their music and impact on the world, the story deserves a better ending than each lady in her corner. Perhaps at some point both ladies will see it the same way I do and decide that the Supremes deserve a proper conclusion. Only time will tell and the possibility will never be completely out of the question until the moment the last breath leaves one of their bodies, hopefully not for many more years.

[Ollie9]

That's the thing though, Ollie. If done right, there wouldn't need to be complications. A tour is out of the question at this point. Maybe a do over might have worked around 2005-2007, but I really don't see there ever being the lucrative possibilities of a tour that existed when RTL was put together. In my mind the only options are:

1) A one night show, maybe Detroit, for charity purposes.

2) A Grammy performance, or other high profile award show.

3) A Supremes documentary with a reunion performance, maybe in Hitsville, to conclude the film.

4) Recording a new song for a Supremes compilation.

When RTL took place, both women were in their mid 50s, far too old to be stuck on nonsense, yet there they were. One would hope that was the last hurrah for their immaturity, that in their late 70s they both would be so far above the bullshit that any of the options I outlined above would go off without any ridiculous hitches.

I stopped holding my breath and crossing my fingers about a reunion years ago. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that I do not want the story of the original Supremes to end with that RTL bullshit. After everything the Supremes accomplished, and what they've meant to people, the legacy of their music and impact on the world, the story deserves a better ending than each lady in her corner. Perhaps at some point both ladies will see it the same way I do and decide that the Supremes deserve a proper conclusion. Only time will tell and the possibility will never be completely out of the question until the moment the last breath leaves one of their bodies, hopefully not for many more years.

All I can say is, i wouldn’t hold my breath for to long Ran. It just might lead to a permanent condition. :)
Unlike Mary, Diana is not really the sentimental type. I’m sure she only sings Supremes songs in her show to keep the fans happy. I’m guessing that particular legacy is not as important to her as it is the fans.
If by some miracle there happened to be one last Supreme performance, you can forget about “Baby Love”. I feel certain she would insist on “I Will Survive” and nothing less lol.

[lucky2012]

In my mind the only options are:

1) A one night show, maybe Detroit, for charity purposes.

2) A Grammy performance, or other high profile award show.

3) A Supremes documentary with a reunion performance, maybe in Hitsville, to conclude the film.

4) Recording a new song for a Supremes compilation.

I stopped holding my breath and crossing my fingers about a reunion years ago. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that I do not want the story of the original Supremes to end with that RTL bullshit. After everything the Supremes accomplished, and what they've meant to people, the legacy of their music and impact on the world, the story deserves a better ending than each lady in her corner. Perhaps at some point both ladies will see it the same way I do and decide that the Supremes deserve a proper conclusion. Only time will tell and the possibility will never be completely out of the question until the moment the last breath leaves one of their bodies, hopefully not for many more years.

Good ideas listed above, RanRan. I understand why a Diana/Mary reunion most probably won't happen. I will be perfectly happy with just another photo like the Diana/Berry/Mary reunion at the Temptations Broadway event.

Bluebrock:
There is no way Ms Ross will ever share a stage with Mary again. Why on earth would she put herself through all that again? She claims to be the happiest she has ever been in her whole life, and i for one believe her. Agreed!

floyjoy:
I remember back then Diana was bringing up on talk shows a couple of times that Flo was in the original Supremes and not Cindy and I think she was trying to make that a point that it was never going to be a true reunion. Agreed!!

MotownManiac:
She’s holed up in SoCal and spent the holidays in Malibu with Rhonda, I think she doesn’t care. I’m told she’s quite committed to avoiding COVID and, having just been released from 7 weeks in the hospital with it, I’m glad she’s so dedicated because IF you get sick from it, it sucks. I'm glad you have survived COVID!! On a lighter note, I'm glad Diana is sheltering with her loved ones. I get some bit of comfort she's just a few miles up the coast from me!

[marybrewster]

Cindy can no longer perform so a reunion is moot.

[TheMotownManiac]

If Mary was indeed acting that way there had to be a good reason. Both women were under a lot of pressure at the time. Diana caught up with her impending solo career and Mary anxious over the future of the Supremes.
As she has occasionally demonstrated, Diana is perhaps not always the best at considering or understanding other people’s feelings. Conflict can often be avoided by just a little empathy being shown. Did Cindy ever complete a book?
At this point in time, I can’t for the life of me imagine Diana giving two hoots about a reunion. Life is sweet for her right now. Why on earth would she want such complications?.

I guess , in that case, anytime anybody ever acts up on stage far from the parameters of their direction, or offstage for that matter, that there’s a good reason for it. Personally, I don’t think getting suckered on substance is a good reason for mary to behave that way at farewell or Motown 25, and we have no idea what her degree of empathy was. I do know that Mary tried valiantly from the day Cindy joined the Supremes to get Cindy on “her side “

I agree but I cannot imagine Diana wanting to do a reunion, certainly not a concert, maybe at some point they would sing a song together but without Flo, for for that matter even without Cindy, IMHO there’s no point in it at all. I would think the motivation to do it would be a burning desire to work together again, and I don’t believe either one of them has that burning desire although I could be wrong. And I would think that Mary’s motivation would be more financial, or for the press, more than the yearning in her heart to work with the person She spent two decades bashing.

It’s a very interesting topic nonetheless and I love reading everybody’s views!

[TheMotownManiac]

That's the thing though, Ollie. If done right, there wouldn't need to be complications. A tour is out of the question at this point. Maybe a do over might have worked around 2005-2007, but I really don't see there ever being the lucrative possibilities of a tour that existed when RTL was put together. In my mind the only options are:

1) A one night show, maybe Detroit, for charity purposes.

2) A Grammy performance, or other high profile award show.

3) A Supremes documentary with a reunion performance, maybe in Hitsville, to conclude the film.

4) Recording a new song for a Supremes compilation.

When RTL took place, both women were in their mid 50s, far too old to be stuck on nonsense, yet there they were. One would hope that was the last hurrah for their immaturity, that in their late 70s they both would be so far above the bullshit that any of the options I outlined above would go off without any ridiculous hitches.

I stopped holding my breath and crossing my fingers about a reunion years ago. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that I do not want the story of the original Supremes to end with that RTL bullshit. After everything the Supremes accomplished, and what they've meant to people, the legacy of their music and impact on the world, the story deserves a better ending than each lady in her corner. Perhaps at some point both ladies will see it the same way I do and decide that the Supremes deserve a proper conclusion. Only time will tell and the possibility will never be completely out of the question until the moment the last breath leaves one of their bodies, hopefully not for many more years.

I think that your scenarios number two and number three are the most likely should anything ever happened. And I agree with you I would like the biography of the Supremes to end on a better note. And I have learned to never say never, because when my late friend Oscar called me to tell me that Cindy was was losing weight and preparing for a supreme’s reunion the following summer, I absolutely did not believe it at all. Then when I found out from the horses mouth, you could’ve knocked me over with a feather. So since then I never say never.

thank you for your Covid comments, I feel I could write a book about what it’s like to spend seven weeks in the Covid ward, but there would have been no Trump supporters if everyone knew what was going on. I was very very very lucky and I’m very grateful to have Escaped without experiencing the worst of what that virus has to offer. All I can ever say about it is wear your mask wear your mask wear your mask!

[captainjames]

The only thing that could possible happen is a reunion of Mary, Lynda and Jean [[although I am not sure if Jean is interested either) or Scherrie, Susaye and Mary. However, Mary has made it clear that Diana, Mary and Cindy has to do it first. From everything I have heard it would definitely be a challenge to get Cindy back on stage.

Since the press made it clear that Diana never sung with Lynda and Scherrie during RTL so that was no reunion, I see no reason for just Mary and Diana to go out on that stage with some cutout of Flo or Cindy.

I don't really care if Diana and Mary get along personally anymore but I do care if I pay to go see a performance of the Supremes that you leave your egos at home and your hostilities in the dressing room or I will keep my money in my wallet.

[jim aka jtigre99]

I am sure this is never going to happen. We all may have felt this would never happen in 2000, but there was far more possibilities then with so many groups reuniting that sparked the initial RTL talk. Of course, with Florence passing in 1976 the original group obviously can never reunite. The thought of Ross with the other original Supreme Mary Wilson and Florence's replacement Cindy Birdsong seemed very exciting going into 2000. It was just not meant to be. Negotiations were not very kind to either Birdsong or Wilson. When you talk reunion, it is about all group members having a say. The "just show up" comment would feel degrading to anyone. As for 2021, we are in a pandemic. No performers are out there touring, Ross and Wilson included. Mary Wilson will be asked about getting back together and she will always say it is up to Diana Ross. Because it is. I do not see Ross wanting to do anything with a group of Supremes again after the failure and bad press of RTL. Cindy can no longer perform due to ill health. I don't even see a one time performance at the Grammys or something similar. There would have been a chance at Motown 60 just to have something special as a tribute. Mary always alludes to Scherrie being able to be the third person if needed. I do not see anything happening to bring this together. But, yes, it is up to Diana Ross but also read that Mary is saying she is happy and not just waiting around for it as she has much in her own life to enjoy and be happy.

[Bluebrock]

I think that your scenarios number two and number three are the most likely should anything ever happened. And I agree with you I would like the biography of the Supremes to end on a better note. And I have learned to never say never, because when my late friend Oscar called me to tell me that Cindy was was losing weight and preparing for a supreme’s reunion the following summer, I absolutely did not believe it at all. Then when I found out from the horses mouth, you could’ve knocked me over with a feather. So since then I never say never.

thank you for your Covid comments, I feel I could write a book about what it’s like to spend seven weeks in the Covid ward, but there would have been no Trump supporters if everyone knew what was going on. I was very very very lucky and I’m very grateful to have Escaped without experiencing the worst of what that virus has to offer. All I can ever say about it is wear your mask wear your mask wear your mask!

Hi. I tried to send you a private message, but your inbox is full.
I do hope you continue to make a good recovery. I know exactly what you have been going through. I had my own battle with covid last year and was very poorly for several months. Even all these months later i am still not fully recovered. I lost 3 stone in weight and i have still not managed to get back to my former fitness.
As Diana once sang Everyday is a new day, and with each new day comes new hope and new possibilities. Hang on in there.
Sending my best wishes to you for 2021 and thereafter.

[Ollie9]

I guess , in that case, anytime anybody ever acts up on stage far from the parameters of their direction, or offstage for that matter, that there’s a good reason for it. Personally, I don’t think getting suckered on substance is a good reason for mary to behave that way at farewell or Motown 25, and we have no idea what her degree of empathy was. I do know that Mary tried valiantly from the day Cindy joined the Supremes to get Cindy on “her side “

I agree but I cannot imagine Diana wanting to do a reunion, certainly not a concert, maybe at some point they would sing a song together but without Flo, for for that matter even without Cindy, IMHO there’s no point in it at all. I would think the motivation to do it would be a burning desire to work together again, and I don’t believe either one of them has that burning desire although I could be wrong. And I would think that Mary’s motivation would be more financial, or for the press, more than the yearning in her heart to work with the person She spent two decades bashing.

It’s a very interesting topic nonetheless and I love reading everybody’s views!

I think if a person has been marginalised over a period of time then they might well act up a little for a final performance. I think I might. I certainly understand that behaviour a little more then say driving down the freeway under the influence of alcohol or kicking sound monitors off a stage because it’s not quite to your liking.
Regarding Motown 25, i feel both women were at fault. Much the same with RTL.
Are you suggesting that Diana’s motivation for a reunion would be something other then financial. hmmm. I certainly doubt that very much.
We all have our own perspective on pass events that might conflict with others. I just don’t consider it fair or accurate to place the blame solely at Mary’s feet.

[Boogiedown]

Good points Ollie.

As soon as the financial angle becomes the center point , count me out.
I saw Bob Dylan once and what a lackluster show. I couldn't help perceiving he didn't want to be there, just putting some bucks in his pocket. Please don't do me any favors , I could be doing something else too!:p

Logistically, visually, functionally, it really doesn't make sense to do a 2/3 Supremes show .

[jobeterob]

I think if a person has been marginalised over a period of time then they might well act up a little for a final performance. I think I might. I certainly understand that behaviour a little more then say driving down the freeway under the influence of alcohol or kicking sound monitors off a stage because it’s not quite to your liking.
Regarding Motown 25, i feel both women were at fault. Much the same with RTL.
Are you suggesting that Diana’s motivation for a reunion would be something other then financial. hmmm. I certainly doubt that very much.
We all have our own perspective on pass events that might conflict with others. I just don’t consider it fair or accurate to place the blame solely at Mary’s feet.

I agree with this too. When you haven't mattered much and you were there from the very first days of not having any success, it is easy to feel marginalized and to act up.

I think Diana would have had a little hope at rekindling the old days as well. I doubt she needed the money but finances would have mattered. I think the big incentive was another "success" or "SUCCESS".

But after two kicks at the can, M25 and RTL, and after covid, and with age kicking in, it's not worth it anymore.

[daviddh]

Diana said during. Uk interview that the Supremes was her favorite decade of her career. Not sure how she feels now as that interview was from the WO tour.
I never saw the Supremes perform. And hoped during RTL that I would finally get the chance.nope.
My show was cancelled the same day.
Mary could reunite with scherrie and sausage but she won't.

[RanRan79]

Mary could reunite with scherrie and sausage but she won't.

Well I don't blame Mary for that. Who the hell wants to see her and Scherrie eating sausage?:p

But seriously, Mary reuniting with the 70s Supremes would probably sell out a venue- how big of a venue is certainly a worthy question- in say a place like LA or NY. Maybe that show would pack folks into the Apollo for one night. But I can't imagine there's much clamoring specifically to see Mary with Scherrie and Susaye. The only reunion guaranteed to at least spark some national interest would be Mary and Diana.

[TNSUN]

I think Mary and Diana should do a zoom "Q and A" of questions from the fans. Some proceeds would go to charity. Let's do it!

[RanRan79]

I think Mary and Diana should do a zoom "Q and A" of questions from the fans. Some proceeds would go to charity. Let's do it!

Now that would be cool!

[jobeterob]

I'd watch them eating sausage. It might get more viewers than Mary is getting on her YouTube channel.

[Roberta75]

Diana said during. Uk interview that the Supremes was her favorite decade of her career. Not sure how she feels now as that interview was from the WO tour.
I never saw the Supremes perform. And hoped during RTL that I would finally get the chance.nope.
My show was cancelled the same day.
Mary could reunite with scherrie and sausage but she won't.

Why would you call Susaye sausage David. Susayes a real sweet lady.

[jobeterob]

Because his phone autocorrected Susaye I bet !

[Bluebrock]

I think Mary and Diana should do a zoom "Q and A" of questions from the fans. Some proceeds would go to charity. Let's do it!
It's a nice thought but the chances of it happening are probably less than zero.
Maybe Mary would undertake it in a solo capacity, but Diana would not be in the slightest bit interested in participating.

[Circa 1824]

I think Mary and Diana should do a zoom "Q and A" of questions from the fans. Some proceeds would go to charity. Let's do it!

Let’s do what ??

[PeaceNHarmony]

I'd watch them eating sausage. It might get more viewers than Mary is getting on her YouTube channel.Sir. Here in the USA we have entered a golden era of bipartisanship and mutual respect. Hence, your comment [[though most likely correct) is, well ... most likely correct.

[PeaceNHarmony]

I can't imagine a single question that Wilson has not answered 2,867 times before. Unless she opens the questioning to include the role of the Coercive Acts in the formation of resistance parties in pre-independent America or, perhaps, the effect on valuing long-term assets of straight line vs. MACRS depreciation.

[floyjoy678]

I've seen Diana's Q&A at her shows and she's pretty boring with them. She answers maybe 1 question, 3 other people will just tell her they love her rather than ask a question and then she starts talking about her kids.

[carlo]

I've seen Diana's Q&A at her shows and she's pretty boring with them. She answers maybe 1 question, 3 other people will just tell her they love her rather than ask a question and then she starts talking about her kids.

Yes, and in her defense, some of the 'questions' as you mentioned, are mostly just general fawning comments from the fan who is holding the microphone at that moment. It's usually them going on and on, talking about their own fan/life experiences [[she's heard it thousands of times before), or questions that are far too specific for her to think of an answer on the spot. I once heard a question from a fan who said that his favourite album was "Eaten Alive" and he asked her about her favourite song she recorded during her RCA era. I think she laughed and then gave a general comment about the wonderful songs in her career. The likelihood of her responding to such a question with, "My favourite RCA song is Crime of Passion" is very low. Her memory of these songs and specific moments of her career cannot be compared to the memory and knowledge of a fan. There's no way she's going to give such a specific answer on the spot. So part of the problem is that the people who are asking the questions need to be a little more thoughtful and strategic. Ask a question that is based on a subject that will help give some direction to her answer, without being too specific. I also heard someone once ask, "What's your favourite food?" Lol. To be fair to the fans asking the questions, it's very emotional and nerve-racking to suddenly be speaking to your life-long idol, without any mental preparation in advance.

In Mary's defense, I've also heard her give some really good interviews in recent years, that have gone above and beyond her standard script. In these cases, you can tell her interviewers were prepared and did their research. Unfortunately, too many tend to ask the same old easy questions about reunions, how the Supremes started off, etc., so yes, you're going to get the same answers, when you're always going for 'the low fruit'.

[Roberta75]

Because his phone autocorrected Susaye I bet !

LOL. Okay.

[thanxal]

I can't imagine a single question that Wilson has not answered 2,867 times before. Unless she opens the questioning to include the role of the Coercive Acts in the formation of resistance parties in pre-independent America or, perhaps, the effect on valuing long-term assets of straight line vs. MACRS depreciation.
Yes, but how does one insulate long-term assets from external shocks, such as COVID, or errant fiscal policies from governments bent on undervaluing their currencies. I would like Mary or Diana to answer that question. I will be unhappy and rant on internet fora until they do!

[Circa 1824]

I've seen Diana's Q&A at her shows and she's pretty boring with them. She answers maybe 1 question, 3 other people will just tell her they love her rather than ask a question and then she starts talking about her kids.

One asked Ross something about the RCA years and she not only totally avoided it, but started talking again about her kids.

My only question to Mary is “How much is your mortgage that has prevented you from a dignified retirement?” Good Lord, the woman will talk to anyone with a webcam and mic.

[blackguy69]

My my aren’t we a little obsessed and that wouldn’t be your business even if she was asked.
One asked Ross something about the RCA years and she not only totally avoided it, but started talking again about her kids.

My only question to Mary is “How much is your mortgage that has prevented you from a dignified retirement?” Good Lord, the woman will talk to anyone with a webcam and mic.

[Ollie9]

One asked Ross something about the RCA years and she not only totally avoided it, but started talking again about her kids.

My only question to Mary is “How much is your mortgage that has prevented you from a dignified retirement?” Good Lord, the woman will talk to anyone with a webcam and mic.

I have often wondered if Diana is the only celebrity in the history of entertainment that had five kids who turned out nice?. Answers on a postcard.
A little Brutal on Mary Circa, but it did make me laugh which is always a good thing.

[floyjoy678]

Yes, and in her defense, some of the 'questions' as you mentioned, are mostly just general fawning comments from the fan who is holding the microphone at that moment. It's usually them going on and on, talking about their own fan/life experiences [[she's heard it thousands of times before), or questions that are far too specific for her to think of an answer on the spot. I once heard a question from a fan who said that his favourite album was "Eaten Alive" and he asked her about her favourite song she recorded during her RCA era. I think she laughed and then gave a general comment about the wonderful songs in her career. The likelihood of her responding to such a question with, "My favourite RCA song is Crime of Passion" is very low. Her memory of these songs and specific moments of her career cannot be compared to the memory and knowledge of a fan. There's no way she's going to give such a specific answer on the spot. So part of the problem is that the people who are asking the questions need to be a little more thoughtful and strategic. Ask a question that is based on a subject that will help give some direction to her answer, without being too specific. I also heard someone once ask, "What's your favourite food?" Lol. To be fair to the fans asking the questions, it's very emotional and nerve-racking to suddenly be speaking to your life-long idol, without any mental preparation in advance.

In Mary's defense, I've also heard her give some really good interviews in recent years, that have gone above and beyond her standard script. In these cases, you can tell her interviewers were prepared and did their research. Unfortunately, too many tend to ask the same old easy questions about reunions, how the Supremes started off, etc., so yes, you're going to get the same answers, when you're always going for 'the low fruit'.

I get she can't remember everything but at least say that and don't go on some "let me promote my kids" speech for 15 minutes when another fan could be asking a different question. Listen I love Diana but she is too routine for me a lot of the time and hate how vanilla she can be at times.

[floyjoy678]

I have often wondered if Diana is the only celebrity in the history of entertainment that had five kids who turned out nice?. Answers on a postcard.
A little Brutal on Mary Circa, but it did make me laugh which is always a good thing.

Who's to say Mary's kids didn't turn out nice or Florence's daughters?

[Ollie9]

Who's to say Mary's kids didn't turn out nice or Florence's daughters?

Who indeed....

[PeaceNHarmony]

Who's to say Mary's kids didn't turn out nice or Florence's daughters?Ms. Roberta has vouched for Florence's daughters as being smart, productive and lovely ladies so I take that as a fact. Not sure of Mary's children; they seem to choose a lower profile life and we can certainly wish them well.

[carlo]

I get she can't remember everything but at least say that and don't go on some "let me promote my kids" speech for 15 minutes when another fan could be asking a different question. Listen I love Diana but she is too routine for me a lot of the time and hate how vanilla she can be at times.

Understood. She sure does love her kids and I agree that she brings them up a lot.