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Boogiedown
06-18-2020, 03:01 PM
Fifty years ago, in June of 1970, The HDH team were on the Billboard's Top Forty with a couple of songs: Freda's BAND OF GOLD and The Chairman of The Board's YOU'VE GOT ME DANGLING ON A STRING.

BAND OF GOLD went on to become a #3 monster, while STRING dangled in the Top 40 but for a couple of weeks [[#40, #38).

HDH must have had a great deal of faith in YGMDOAS's smash potential because for it, the bother of a video was created [[not so for BOG) :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGED_6WIsps


Which to me seems far ahead of its time for HDH to do this. It's not simply a recording of an actual performance on a stage somewhere , it's a created mock up doing something more with unusual outdoor ambience. Who would it have been for? What would be the purpose?

And then finally , the point of this thread :
What were the earliest songs that Motown had done something similar for? :confused:

reese
06-18-2020, 03:22 PM
I don't know if they were the earliest but I've seen videos for Stevie Wonder's I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER and the Tops' 7 ROOMS OF GLOOM.

TomatoTom123
06-18-2020, 09:26 PM
GOOD QUESTION BOOGIE!!!!!! I WILL WATCH THE VIDEO FOR "Dangling" NOW, ONE OF MY FAVES :D:D:D

TomatoTom123
06-18-2020, 09:30 PM
OMG I LOVE THE VIDEO ITS JUST DANCING IN A FIELD, WISH I WAS THERE :p:p

kenneth
06-19-2020, 01:14 AM
This is a pretty well-known one it must be one of the earliest.


https://youtu.be/K3L-nJMyMPI

reese
06-19-2020, 08:20 AM
This is a pretty well-known one it must be one of the earliest.


https://youtu.be/K3L-nJMyMPI

Martha calls this the first Motown video. But it is really just an appearance from Murray the K's ITS WHAT'S HAPPENING BABY tv special.

While there were quite a few live performances filmed at the Brooklyn Paramount, there were also many lip-synced performances taped at various locations, like Johnny Mathis on the beach, the Drifters on a roof, Mary Wells walking around a pond, etc.

reese
06-19-2020, 08:22 AM
Maybe this was done around the same time as the Chairman of the Board's?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYF0ocxRRH4

splanky
06-19-2020, 10:24 AM
I don't know if they were the earliest but I've seen videos for Stevie Wonder's I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER and the Tops' 7 ROOMS OF GLOOM.

I never saw these until today. I was blown away. The were called promotional films...
But apparently not to the gp.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1XE9o6yr4

reese
06-19-2020, 10:55 AM
Washington seems to be a popular place for filming promotional videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D40fSyvFoPo

RanRan79
06-19-2020, 11:21 AM
And then there is this infamous one from early 65. Apparently no one was given permission to do this and toward the end you can see the "police" forcing the girls onto the sidewalk and out of traffic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRqPPBqdAjw

splanky
06-19-2020, 03:40 PM
Actually you guys in the UK were producing these with my favorite girl group to defect
from the USA and you were so lucky to get them. The Flirtations who often took their
cues from what was coming out of the Motor City...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72mXxaHkHnE

Boogiedown
06-20-2020, 06:50 PM
Maybe this was done around the same time as the Chairman of the Board's?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYF0ocxRRH4

Very good and informative replies here!

Let me start with this one because I incorrectly stated there was no promo made for BAND OF GOLD [[& too late to correct that post now). I looked for one , didn't find it , but still should've added a [[?) to my claim. Thank you for presenting it reese!

Really begs the question of how it came about to have these two songs video filmed and done so in Washington DC . My guess would be Freda and Chairman were on a national tour together at the time and that's where they happened to be , perhaps it struck somebody at Invictus that DC might be a great local to shoot some film.

Still would like to know , for what purpose ? To what end ? Maybe HDH was hoping for a TV special centered around their new labels , or were hoping to find some interest in these films to be used as a slot on a variety show?? Must be meant for TV somehow ......... otherwise ...???.....

Boogiedown
06-20-2020, 07:18 PM
Washington seems to be a popular place for filming promotional videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D40fSyvFoPo


This one's curious. Was it really made to promote I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER ? Or is the song just playing over some footage of Stevie in DC which was not filmed with the song in mind. When were the two united? Right away? Years later? Purpose ? The images seem mismatched.
Also if filmed for the song, it seems the harmonica segments could have been better correlated with his visual playing of it ....




[[most ironic for Stevie to be filmed sightseeing in Washington DC btw)

[[On another note, Its somewhat striking to me how similar I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER sounds to BAND OF GOLD when placed against it like this. The marching drumbeat , the sitars.... although I think there is no overlaying of the two .....)

marv2
06-20-2020, 07:18 PM
Fifty years ago, in June of 1970, The HDH team were on the Billboard's Top Forty with a couple of songs: Freda's BAND OF GOLD and The Chairman of The Board's YOU'VE GOT ME DANGLING ON A STRING.

BAND OF GOLD went on to become a #3 monster, while STRING dangled in the Top 40 but for a couple of weeks [[#40, #38).

HDH must have had a great deal of faith in YGMDOAS's smash potential because for it, the bother of a video was created [[not so for BOG) :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGED_6WIsps


Which to me seems far ahead of its time for HDH to do this. It's not simply a recording of an actual performance on a stage somewhere , it's a created mock up doing something more with unusual outdoor ambience. Who would it have been for? What would be the purpose?

And then finally , the point of this thread :
What were the earliest songs that Motown had done something similar for? :confused:

This is not a video, this clip is from a show called "Something Else" that aired from 1970-71. It was a weekly music series we use to watch. Freda's clip below is also from this same program.

reese
06-20-2020, 07:21 PM
Very good and informative replies here!

Let me start with this one because I incorrectly stated there was no promo made for BAND OF GOLD [[& too late to correct that post now). I looked for one , didn't find it , but still should've added a [[?) to my claim. Thank you for presenting it reese!

Really begs the question of how it came about to have these two songs video filmed and done so in Washington DC . My guess would be Freda and Chairman were on a national tour together at the time and that's where they happened to be , perhaps it struck somebody at Invictus that DC might be a great local to shoot some film.

Still would like to know , for what purpose ? To what end ? Maybe HDH was hoping for a TV special centered around their new labels , or were hoping to find some interest in these films to be used as a slot on a variety show?? Must be meant for TV somehow ......... otherwise ...???.....

Since they were promoting records, these films were probably made to send out to markets where possibly the artists couldn't appear in person. I don't think there were any music video shows then so they could have been sent to local or overseas television programs.

I've seen similar films of the Staple Singers and Nina Simone. Barbara Mason also recalls making such a film and wishing to see it again.

Boogiedown
06-20-2020, 07:35 PM
This is not a video, this clip is from a show called "Something Else" that aired from 1970-71. It was a weekly music series we use to watch. Freda's clip below is also from this same program.

Very good Marv !!! Thanks !! This explains A LOT !!


hey reese, check this out :

https://www.thevideobeat.com/rock-roll-tv/something-else-1970-71.htm


[[https://www.thevideobeat.com/rock-roll-tv/something-else-1970-71.html)and this :

http://www.retrovideo.com/footage_library/something-else/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-OnIf-s-YY

from Catalina Island









[[http://www.retrovideo.com/footage_library/something-else/)

marv2
06-20-2020, 08:05 PM
This one's curious. Was it really made to promote I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER ? Or is the song just playing over some footage of Stevie in DC which was not filmed with the song in mind. When were the two united? Right away? Years later? Purpose ? The images seem mismatched.
Also if filmed for the song, it seems the harmonica segments could have been better correlated with his visual playing of it ....




[[most ironic for Stevie to be filmed sightseeing in Washington DC btw)

[[On another note, Its somewhat striking to me how similar I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER sounds to BAND OF GOLD when placed against it like this. The marching drumbeat , the sitars.... although I think there is no overlaying of the two .....)

This also is not a promotional video. This is from "Something Else" TV show. They film one like this in D.C. for the Staple Singers. The show ran from 1970-71.

marv2
06-20-2020, 08:11 PM
I had this for many years. I use to think it was a promo video, but it is actually from "Where the Action Is"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TWCZ9ZWk-0

reese
06-20-2020, 08:36 PM
hey reese, check this out :

[URL="https://www.thevideobeat.com/rock-roll-tv/something-else-1970-71.html"]https://www.thevideobeat.com/rock-roll-tv/something-else-1970-71.htm



If I'm not mistaken, I bought the episode with Carla Thomas many years ago. I believe she sang one of her later singles, I LOVED YOU LIKE I LOVE MY VERY LIFE.

Boogiedown
06-20-2020, 08:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEh4yXJ9trs

probably this ^


well now we're back to square one concerning this topic ..... I noticed at about this same time no such videos for The Jackson Five !!???

how did that not happen??

snakepit
06-21-2020, 06:25 AM
I'm old enough to remember 'videos' that accompanied juke box selections.
I remember seeing a film of "Walk on By" by Dionne Warwick on a juke box..that would be 1964?

reese
06-21-2020, 08:25 AM
I'm old enough to remember 'videos' that accompanied juke box selections.
I remember seeing a film of "Walk on By" by Dionne Warwick on a juke box..that would be 1964?

Are those what they called the Scopitone films? I've seen the one from Dionne, as well as TELL HIM by the Exciters, and some others by Brook Benton and Della Reese.

snakepit
06-21-2020, 10:38 AM
Reese
not sure what they were called...but I remember the juke box, situated in a hamburger stall on a Butlin's Holiday Camp. I'd be about 9 then. Made an impression...and the burgers were good too.

marv2
06-21-2020, 10:41 AM
I'm old enough to remember 'videos' that accompanied juke box selections.
I remember seeing a film of "Walk on By" by Dionne Warwick on a juke box..that would be 1964?

Weren't most of those produced by the French company,Scopitone Video Jukebox?

marv2
06-21-2020, 10:44 AM
Here's a good example of a Scopitone:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAPiqip-gnY

Boogiedown
06-21-2020, 03:59 PM
I don't know if they were the earliest but I've seen videos for Stevie Wonder's I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER and the Tops' 7 ROOMS OF GLOOM.

OK then Marv, or who ever?......what's the story behind this one ??? Reason? Source?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1XE9o6yr4

Boogiedown
06-21-2020, 04:01 PM
And then there is this infamous one from early 65. Apparently no one was given permission to do this and toward the end you can see the "police" forcing the girls onto the sidewalk and out of traffic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRqPPBqdAjw

And wow ! This one ! Remarkable!!

Story???

Boogiedown
06-21-2020, 04:05 PM
This is a pretty well-known one it must be one of the earliest.


https://youtu.be/K3L-nJMyMPI

Zowie.
Can't imagine them ever getting permission to be anywhere near this assembly line in action. Motown personified.

How in the world???

reese
06-21-2020, 08:15 PM
And wow ! This one ! Remarkable!!

Story???

The Supremes were in Paris with the Motown Revue. Someone decided to have the girls run down the Champs-Elysees while lipsyncing to one of their recordings. They didn't have permission to do it and after a while, they had traffic blocked up. At the end of this clips, you can see the policemen making them stop.

reese
06-21-2020, 08:16 PM
Zowie.
Can't imagine them ever getting permission to be anywhere near this assembly line in action. Motown personified.

How in the world???

I'm sure they got permission to film as this had to have taken a few takes to complete. It is taken from Murray the K's tv special ITS WHAT'S HAPPENING BABY.

Boogiedown
06-22-2020, 12:46 PM
OMG I LOVE THE VIDEO ITS JUST DANCING IN A FIELD, WISH I WAS THERE :p:p

me too !:cool:

Boogiedown
06-22-2020, 01:21 PM
I'm sure they got permission to film as this had to have taken a few takes to complete. It is taken from Murray the K's tv special ITS WHAT'S HAPPENING BABY.

I'm amazed they did! That is a classic piece of Motortown memorabilia . Thanks for the info, reese.

Further research , [[wiki!!), indicates that song videos didn't blossom until the early eighties , especially with the arrival of MTV.

Tony Bennett claims to have created the first concept film around a song ,STRANGER IN PARADISE in the fifties , but can't confirm.


Ozzie Nelson enhanced a song by his son Ricky, his TRAVELIN' MAN, that was shown on their TV show:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0janfcZ8LUw

marv2
06-22-2020, 07:08 PM
I'm amazed they did! That is a classic piece of Motortown memorabilia . Thanks for the info, reese.

Further research , [[wiki!!), indicates that song videos didn't blossom until the early eighties , especially with the arrival of MTV.

Tony Bennett claims to have created the first concept film around a song ,STRANGER IN PARADISE in the fifties , but can't confirm.


Ozzie Nelson enhanced a song by his son Ricky, his TRAVELIN' MAN, that was shown on their TV show:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0janfcZ8LUw

No, the Beatles started the popular music or song videos in the 60s with most notably "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane" which were both shown on The Ed Sullivan Show in lieu of a live performance by the band. Other promotional music videos followed througout the 60s and 70s. Remember the one for Elton John and KiKi Dee, "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" in 1976?

marv2
06-22-2020, 07:11 PM
This one was from 1971-72:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAPQuVHRY0A&t=87s

Levi Stubbs Tears
06-23-2020, 02:31 AM
song videos didn't blossom until the early eighties , especially with the arrival of MTV.

In Australia, music video shows started to become popular in the mid-70s, though many videos shown were from UK or European artists.

The only early videos I can remember for an American artist were for Cher [[doing 'Dark Lady' or 'Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves') but artists like Abba, Suzi Quatro, The Sweet seemed to have music videos for every song they released from about 1973 onwards.

Having a music video which was played on Aussie TV often used to result in the artist 'breaking out' downunder before they had achieved chart success in the rest of the world. This was the case with artists like ABBA [[who weren't even going to release Mamma Mia as a single until it was played on a national music show and public demand forced the record company to beg Bjorn & Benny for permission to release it), Blondie & Meatloaf among others.

Motown really missed the boat with videos [[but they made sooooo many bad business decisions in the 70s).

I do remember seeing some performances from Soul Train on our music video shows. These must have been licensed by record companies to promote the songs overseas, but can't distinctly remember any Motown artists. I can remember Stevie's 'Superstition' and Thelma's 'Don't Leave Me' being played but those videos may have come from a concert or TV-show performance licensed similarly.

Boogiedown
06-25-2020, 03:57 PM
No, the Beatles started the popular music or song videos in the 60s with most notably "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane" which were both shown on The Ed Sullivan Show in lieu of a live performance by the band. Other promotional music videos followed througout the 60s and 70s. Remember the one for Elton John and KiKi Dee, "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" in 1976?

here is STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtUH9z_Oey8

Boogiedown
06-25-2020, 04:04 PM
In Australia, music video shows started to become popular in the mid-70s, though many videos shown were from UK or European artists.

The only early videos I can remember for an American artist were for Cher [[doing 'Dark Lady' or 'Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves') but artists like Abba, Suzi Quatro, The Sweet seemed to have music videos for every song they released from about 1973 onwards.

Having a music video which was played on Aussie TV often used to result in the artist 'breaking out' downunder before they had achieved chart success in the rest of the world. This was the case with artists like ABBA [[who weren't even going to release Mamma Mia as a single until it was played on a national music show and public demand forced the record company to beg Bjorn & Benny for permission to release it), Blondie & Meatloaf among others.

Motown really missed the boat with videos [[but they made sooooo many bad business decisions in the 70s).

I do remember seeing some performances from Soul Train on our music video shows. These must have been licensed by record companies to promote the songs overseas, but can't distinctly remember any Motown artists. I can remember Stevie's 'Superstition' and Thelma's 'Don't Leave Me' being played but those videos may have come from a concert or TV-show performance licensed similarly.

Most interesting Levi. So you are in Australia?
Makes sense to try to penetrate other markets that you aren't otherwise likely to reach in person with filmed versions.

DANCING QUEEN:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrGuyw1V8s

marv2
06-25-2020, 05:12 PM
here is STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtUH9z_Oey8

Yes! I remember they showed both this one and one for "Penny Lane" the same night on the Ed Sullivan Show.

Boogiedown
07-01-2020, 04:25 AM
WHITER SHADE OF PALE 1967:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2puubv2e0L4

Procol Harum

marv2
07-01-2020, 01:00 PM
OK then Marv, or who ever?......what's the story behind this one ??? Reason? Source?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1XE9o6yr4

HA! That cost about $2 to make. They filmed that at a house in Detroit [[looks like on Outer Drive btw......). This is a promotional video that was perhaps sent out around the country to local dance/entertainment shows to promote the record. The Beatles get credit for starting this practice in my opinion.

Boogiedown
07-01-2020, 01:35 PM
HA! That cost about $2 to make. They filmed that at a house in Detroit [[looks like on Outer Drive btw......). This is a promotional video that was perhaps sent out around the country to local dance/entertainment shows to promote the record. The Beatles get credit for starting this practice in my opinion.

Interesting ...sent to local regional stations...great idea... makes me wonder why it was done just this once ? Or maybe there were more of them that are now lost .....

Watching Levi in both of these clips [[KEEPER OF THE CASTLE, SEVEN ROOMS), I'm picking up on a goofier [[for lack of better word) side of him I'd not noticed before. Playful. I like it!

marv2
07-01-2020, 03:03 PM
Interesting ...sent to local regional stations...great idea... makes me wonder why it was done just this once ? Or maybe there were more of them that are now lost .....

Watching Levi in both of these clips [[KEEPER OF THE CASTLE, SEVEN ROOMS), I'm picking up on a goofier [[for lack of better word) side of him I'd not noticed before. Playful. I like it!

Oh Levi was a trip in person. He could make you laugh till you cried just by the normal things he would say to you. He did it to me several times......LOL!

Boogiedown
08-17-2020, 02:08 PM
I'm starting to think that the first "song promotional video" , not a film created as a spot for a TV show , etc.. , but specifically as a music video, when that was becoming an industry concept, might have been :



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg-ivWxy5KE

1979 Commodores SAIL ON.

144man
08-17-2020, 03:02 PM
Weren't most of those produced by the French company,Scopitone Video Jukebox?

Sounds plausible because I saw the Dionne Warwick and the Exciters videos on a jukebox while on a school trip to France in 1964 or 1965.

marybrewster
08-21-2020, 11:49 PM
This of course from the Supremes:

https://youtu.be/AK-7AduuAZ4

BritishTony
08-27-2020, 02:25 PM
Sorry Marybrewster, that video's blocked here in UK. Is it the one where they're playing table tennis? I've always loved that one. They seem to be having such great, innocent, genuine fun together, especially Diana & Mary. They showed it on Top Of The Pops when the girls weren't in the country.