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Boogiedown
10-24-2019, 02:08 AM
Within the period of 1942-1988.

Joel Whitburn's TOP R&B SINGLES book lists 32 singles that charted 27 weeks or more on Billboard's Soul chart . At #32 [[ w/ 27 weeks) is Chaka's AIN'T NOBODY from 1983.
At #1 is CHERRY RED BLUES from Cootie Williams [[1944) charting for a 39 week total.
In between those two songs are thirty others , two of which were released through Motown.

NAME THOSE TUNES !!!......????:confused:

[[I've named the source, but no cheating please !)

jobeterob
10-24-2019, 02:20 AM
No clue!

Upside Down?

Boogiedown
10-24-2019, 02:33 AM
reasonable guess jobeterob!
but , ...no !

Worntorndress
10-24-2019, 03:52 AM
Marvin Gaye 'I heard it through the grapevine'?

Worntorndress
10-24-2019, 03:54 AM
Four Tops 'Reach out I'll be there'?

Worntorndress
10-24-2019, 03:55 AM
Supremes 'Baby Love'?

Worntorndress
10-24-2019, 03:56 AM
Jackie Wilson 'Reet Petite'?

roger
10-24-2019, 05:25 AM
I know the answer, but I cheated and looked in the book so I'm not telling.

Let's just say that I wouldn't have thought of either of those two and Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing", which is on the list, wasn't released via Motown so isn't one of them.

Roger

jack020
10-24-2019, 07:09 AM
Prob BoyzIIMen End Of The Road

roger
10-24-2019, 07:25 AM
Prob BoyzIIMen End Of The Road

That did spend 27 weeks on Billboard's R&B chart jack020, but it wasn't released until 1992. :)

marv2
10-24-2019, 08:55 AM
"Stone Love".

marv2
10-24-2019, 09:01 AM
"I'll Be There" - The Jackson 5

alexstassi
10-24-2019, 09:08 AM
I'm sure Rick James' "Give it to me baby" had a long spell.

alexstassi
10-24-2019, 09:09 AM
And Stevie Wonder "MasterBlaster"

alexstassi
10-24-2019, 09:19 AM
Ok I've just checked... I think I was on the right lines but my guesses were wrong too!!!

benross
10-24-2019, 02:17 PM
My guess is Don't Leave Me This Way by Thelma Houston and Endless Love by Diana Ross and Lionel Richie.

mowest
10-24-2019, 04:05 PM
I too just checked the chart and was very surprised!

copley
10-24-2019, 04:11 PM
I think that 'Cruisin'' may be one of them. As for the other one possibly a J5.

copley
10-24-2019, 04:30 PM
OMG! I have just been told what the other one is and TBH I have never even heard it!

khansperac
10-24-2019, 05:36 PM
I just called to say I love you - Stevie W

marv2
10-24-2019, 06:04 PM
I think that 'Cruisin'' may be one of them. As for the other one possibly a J5.

That is a good choice. It was released in 1979 and did not peak until 1980.

marv2
10-24-2019, 06:05 PM
"With You I'm Born Again" Billy Preston & Syreeta Wright. It was the soundtrack was released in early 1979 and did not peak until 1980. I saw them perform the song on the Mike Douglas Show very early in 1979 and forgot about it until it peaked almost a year later.

khansperac
10-24-2019, 06:53 PM
I love your smile- Shanice

alexstassi
10-24-2019, 07:45 PM
I love your smile- Shanice that was released in 1992

alexstassi
10-24-2019, 07:48 PM
Well 1992 in the UK.. end of 91 in the US

JohnnyB
10-24-2019, 08:07 PM
Well 1992 in the UK.. end of 91 in the US

Endless Love?

alexstassi
10-24-2019, 09:03 PM
Endless Love?

I wouldn't have guessed either of them and definitely not one of them. Mind blowing lol

Boogiedown
10-25-2019, 03:25 AM
Yes roger, the one other Motown alumni on this list is Marvin Gaye with 1982's SEXUAL HEALING [[CBS) with 27 weeks on the chart , its song #28 on the list.

good candidates mentioned!!
I'm betting amongst those is Motown's third longest charting single. My money would be on DONT LEAVE ME THIS WAY since it took a very slow climb to reach its #1 spot , or WITH YOU I'M BORN AGAIN , a sort of self-determined hit against all odds. OR it could be ENDLESS LOVE , Motown's all-time biggest single ....or ....lol!
Anyone know ?

In the meantime , for sure , one of the two longest charting singles has been mentioned --- Smokey's CRUISIN", it was the 21st longest charting record , 28 weeks on the chart in 1979. Well done copley!:cool:

One down ....
.....one to go!!

roger
10-25-2019, 04:32 AM
"With You I'm Born Again" Billy Preston & Syreeta Wright. It was the soundtrack was released in early 1979 and did not peak until 1980. I saw them perform the song on the Mike Douglas Show very early in 1979 and forgot about it until it peaked almost a year later.

"With You I'm Born Again" did spend 29 weeks on Billboard's "Pop" Hot-100 Chart, peaking at #4, so it does sound a likely choice Marv2 …. However it didn't find much favour with the R&B crowd and only peaked at #86 during a three week run early in 1980. :)

jack020
10-25-2019, 07:59 AM
Gladys Knight?

Boogiedown
10-25-2019, 01:32 PM
"With You I'm Born Again" did spend 29 weeks on Billboard's "Pop" Hot-100 Chart, peaking at #4, so it does sound a likely choice Marv2 …. However it didn't find much favour with the R&B crowd and only peaked at #86 during a three week run early in 1980. :)

that's amazing ....three weeks on the soul chart , Penny McLean's LADY BUMP did better! lol!

marv2
10-25-2019, 02:37 PM
"With You I'm Born Again" did spend 29 weeks on Billboard's "Pop" Hot-100 Chart, peaking at #4, so it does sound a likely choice Marv2 …. However it didn't find much favour with the R&B crowd and only peaked at #86 during a three week run early in 1980. :)

I always thought it was a nice, dull record.

vgalindo
10-25-2019, 03:52 PM
So has anyone guessed the 2 correct songs?

jobeterob
10-25-2019, 05:08 PM
So I Love Your Smile is one?

copley
10-25-2019, 07:24 PM
No not Shanice for one very good reason, it was a hit in 1991 outwith the time frame! The second song has not been named yet. I was shocked when I was told. It wasn't even a hit in the UK and only a medium sized US Top 100 hit! Think out of the box.

Boogiedown
10-26-2019, 12:56 AM
No not Shanice for one very good reason, it was a hit in 1991 outwith the time frame! The second song has not been named yet. I was shocked when I was told. It wasn't even a hit in the UK and only a medium sized US Top 100 hit! Think out of the box.

Yes its certainly not one of the immediate Motown biggies that might come to mind to hold a distinction like this. I think Motown made it a practice to release a follow-up replacement to a hit as soon as it showed any sign of slippage , making the previous tune immediately obsolete , which might be why many of the bigger hits shot quicky up and then quickly off the chart.

So for the still unaccounted for answer , think of a strong R&B release that didn't take the Pop chart by storm enabling it to run its long course over on the R&B chart.

Oh, thanks to those of you that [[cheated:p) and researched the answer but didn't barge in here with it. :cool:

jack020
10-26-2019, 01:34 AM
Tears Of a clown?

Boogiedown
10-26-2019, 01:51 AM
hmmmm..... TEARS OF A CLOWN was a #1 Pop Hit.

alexstassi
10-26-2019, 10:25 AM
Yes its certainly not one of the immediate Motown biggies that might come to mind to hold a distinction like this. I think Motown made it a practice to release a follow-up replacement to a hit as soon as it showed any sign of slippage , making the previous tune immediately obsolete , which might be why many of the bigger hits shot quicky up and then quickly off the chart.

So for the still unaccounted for answer , think of a strong R&B release that didn't take the Pop chart by storm enabling it to run its long course over on the R&B chart.

Oh, thanks to those of you that [[cheated:p) and researched the answer but didn't barge in here with it. :cool:

..and the biggest hint has just been dropped

khansperac
10-26-2019, 11:00 AM
Oh, thanks to those of you that [[cheated:p) and researched the answer but didn't barge in here with it. :cool:

If there is a clue in this, perhaps the clue is “barge”. So I will go with something by Debarge or Switch. Not sure what song though.

marv2
10-26-2019, 11:12 AM
Let It Whip - Dazz Band

jack020
10-27-2019, 05:08 AM
rhythm of the night

Boogiedown
10-27-2019, 12:38 PM
OK then good guesses , but without further ado , here is Motown's longest chart running single [[28 weeks*) and Number 20 on the longevity list of all songs appearing on the Billboard R&B chart thru 1988:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoBpNjV4peU
Debarge 1983: I LIKE IT

*which actually ties "CRUISIN'" with the same number of weeks , so not sure how one gets ranked above the other ,

jobeterob
10-27-2019, 01:36 PM
Interesting

It’s just that in one era songs charted forever - like in the early 80’s

Whereas in 60’s, singles sales may have even been greater, but there were many more releases and less longevity

marv2
10-27-2019, 01:42 PM
OK then good guesses , but without further ado , here is Motown's longest chart running single [[28 weeks*) and Number 20 on the longevity list of all songs appearing on the Billboard R&B chart thru 1988:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoBpNjV4peU
Debarge 1983: I LIKE IT

*which actually ties "CRUISIN'" with the same number of weeks , so not sure how one gets ranked above the other ,

What a great song! I loved this song all of these years. Thanks Boogiedown!

roger
10-28-2019, 03:45 AM
Interesting

It’s just that in one era songs charted forever - like in the early 80’s

Whereas in 60’s, singles sales may have even been greater, but there were many more releases and less longevity

All very true Jobeterob, but another thing to consider is that in The '60s Billboard's R&B chart only consisted of 50 or 60 records. This was expanded to 100 in 1973 so the combination of less singles and more chart positions was bound to result in longer chart runs.

Roger

midnightman
10-28-2019, 05:30 PM
Had no idea I Like It stayed on the charts like that! No wonder it's become such a historic song lol

The minute that beat hits... it's on!

Boogiedown
10-28-2019, 11:39 PM
What a great song! I loved this song all of these years. Thanks Boogiedown!

You're welcome Marv! Thanks for being thankful!

Do you know which Debarge it is that sings here first?[[pink shirt) Really like his voice. Also the Debarge on the far right [[gray pants) ... his dancing , he's a natural.


https://youtu.be/uoBpNjV4peU

marv2
10-29-2019, 12:00 AM
You're welcome Marv! Thanks for being thankful!

Do you know which Debarge it is that sings here first?[[pink shirt) Really like his voice. Also the Debarge on the far right [[gray pants) ... his dancing , he's a natural.


https://youtu.be/uoBpNjV4peU

Randy DeBarge starts the song off. That is Marty DeBarge on the far right. Bunny is in the center of course and James is on the left on the end.

marv2
10-29-2019, 12:02 AM
DeBarge and Val Young were some of the last artists from Detroit to join Motown. They both also have roots in the Brewster Projects of Detroit.

Boogiedown
10-29-2019, 03:27 PM
Randy DeBarge starts the song off. That is Marty DeBarge on the far right. Bunny is in the center of course and James is on the left on the end.

thanks Marv. I appreciate your knowledge.

Now I am curious..............What was Motown's THIRD longest running radio hit??

One candidate might be Rick James' GIVE IT TO ME BABY . On the chart for 25 weeks, five of which were at #1.
Now that's a HIT!!

marv2
10-29-2019, 04:38 PM
thanks Marv. I appreciate your knowledge.

Now I am curious..............What was Motown's THIRD longest running radio hit??

One candidate might be Rick James' GIVE IT TO ME BABY . On the chart for 25 weeks, five of which were at #1.
Now that's a HIT!!

"Super Freak" was even more successful. Are you referring to the Pop or R&B charts?

marv2
10-29-2019, 04:39 PM
"Three Times A Lady" seemed to stay on the charts forever in the second half of 1978.

Boogiedown
10-29-2019, 04:50 PM
"Super Freak" was even more successful. Are you referring to the Pop or R&B charts?


Sticking to the R&B chart and using same Joel Whitburn book as the source.

SUPERFREAK --- 17 weeks
3X A LADY -----Also 17 weeks although you're right , it seemed a lot longer. lol!

marv2
10-29-2019, 05:39 PM
Sticking to the R&B chart and using same Joel Whitburn book as the source.

SUPERFREAK --- 17 weeks
3X A LADY -----Also 17 weeks although you're right , it seemed a lot longer. lol!

I was a freshman in college and it seemed like everytime you turned on the radio that Fall it was either "Three Times A Lady" or Anne Murray's "You Needed Me" was on. Radio in Colorado sucked! LOL!

midnightman
10-29-2019, 09:27 PM
Randy wrote the verses, Bunny the bridge and El the music. El produced it with Idris Gordy. Idris is the only one who got him to go really high in the song at the end.

midnightman
10-29-2019, 09:29 PM
DeBarge and Val Young were some of the last artists from Detroit to join Motown. They both also have roots in the Brewster Projects of Detroit.

Etterlene DeBarge's family, the Abneys, lived there.

marv2
10-30-2019, 04:15 AM
Randy wrote the verses, Bunny the bridge and El the music. El produced it with Idris Gordy. Idris is the only one who got him to go really high in the song at the end.

Her name is Iris. She use to be married to Johnny Bristol. I know her daughter Karla.