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PeaceNHarmony
10-07-2019, 08:53 AM
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/how-isaac-hayes-changed-soul-music?utm_source=pocket-newtab

marv2
10-07-2019, 10:24 AM
He was the first one I remember having long recordings on his albums with a rap included. He was a trailblazer. His daughter is now a professional singer as well.

Motown Eddie
10-07-2019, 11:33 AM
Thanks for sharing the article about Isaac Hayes' Hot Buttered Soul. Not only did HBS change Soul Music, it also led the way to the classic albums by Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder and others [[by proving that Album-Oriented Soul Music could sell in the millions).

PeaceNHarmony
10-07-2019, 12:09 PM
Thanks for sharing the article about Isaac Hayes' Hot Buttered Soul. Not only did HBS change Soul Music, it also led the way to the classic albums by Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder and others [[by proving that Album-Oriented Soul Music could sell in the millions).That's a very valid, and rarely discussed facet of Hayes' influence. Great to point out.

StuBass1
10-07-2019, 12:44 PM
Isaac Hayes was a trailblazer on several fronts. The most impressive thing to me was what he did in his brilliant soundtrack with Shaft... My personal memory of meeting Isaac at O'Hare airport in Chicago in the early 70's as we had a fairly lengthy conversation about music and some people we mutually knew, even to the point of his asking me if he could continue walking and talking with me down the corridor to my plane, even though his gate was in a different direction...Just an outstanding down to earth human being I'm glad I had the pleasure of meeting and enjoying his music through the decades...

midnightman
10-07-2019, 02:50 PM
The Ike I love. :)

Boogiedown
10-07-2019, 03:33 PM
Thanks for sharing that StuBass1. Isaac Hayes is one of the ones I regret never seeing I in concert.
Definitely a trailblazer .
If someone said he invented disco with SHAFT, I could understand their argument. So many of its elements [[wah wah , cooing female backups, constant beat , high hat)became commonplace in disco including of all things the flute .
HOT BUTTERED SOUL was certainly revolutionary. Shows what can be done when given free reign and time to explore ideas in the studio as he had .
I'm glad to hear he was a nice guy , I always had that impression.

marv2
10-07-2019, 05:31 PM
I still listen to his albums when I can.

jack020
10-08-2019, 02:28 AM
16318Everybody should read this:

Motown Eddie
10-08-2019, 05:49 AM
That's a very valid, and rarely discussed facet of Hayes' influence. Great to point out.

Other examples of Isaac's influence are songs featuring extended monologues, dramatic changes in mood and sweeping orchestral strings such as...

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thatanyway
10-08-2019, 01:29 PM
Greatness galore!

nysister
10-09-2019, 02:50 PM
I still listen to his albums when I can.

The first time I heard Isaac Hayes, my friends and I were listening to the radio when this deep baritone voice started talking over a steady organ groove. We were so mesmerized, as we had never heard anything like this before, but when he got to the end and started singing by the Time I Get to Phoenix, we were so done!! We could not believe that this brother took us on this journey about his woman and then gave us Glen Campbell. It was unbelievable, but genius and we were hooked on Isaac ever sense.

marv2
10-09-2019, 09:16 PM
The first time I heard Isaac Hayes, my friends and I were listening to the radio when this deep baritone voice started talking over a steady organ groove. We were so mesmerized, as we had never heard anything like this before, but when he got to the end and started singing by the Time I Get to Phoenix, we were so done!! We could not believe that this brother took us on this journey about his woman and then gave us Glen Campbell. It was unbelievable, but genius and we were hooked on Isaac ever sense.

Sister! I can relate. I had my first "Isaac Hayes Experience" when my mother bought his album "The Isaac Hayes Movement" around Christmas 1970. I was into kid music like the Jackson 5 etc then as I was just 10 years old, but listening to "I Stand Accused", "I Just Don't Know What to Do with Myself" was something almost spiritual to the point that I still listen to those songs today! This is was before "Shaft" and all the music he would later produce as "Black Moses".

Cosmic Truth
10-19-2019, 04:50 AM
16318Everybody should read this:

Stuart Cosgrove is Scottish, from Perth. He is a huge soul music fan particularly Northern Soul. He has written a few books about soul music.

jack020
10-21-2019, 06:39 AM
This book tells about the background of Isaac :)

PeaceNHarmony
10-22-2019, 09:17 AM
Stuart Cosgrove is Scottish, from Perth. He is a huge soul music fan particularly Northern Soul. He has written a few books about soul music.Thanks for the post; looks interesting.

PeaceNHarmony
10-22-2019, 09:18 AM
This book tells about the background of Isaac :)Good to hear; I will look into the book.

jack020
10-23-2019, 02:56 AM
Get all 3: essential reading for soul fans.
Detroit 67, Memphis 68 and Harlem 69.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stuart-Cosgrove/e/B001HPHB4U%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

manny
10-23-2019, 07:38 AM
He invented among other things two things so seminals:
- Symphonic Soul
- Extended tracks [[one track for one side of an LP!)

[[perhaps also invented the "typical" OST for an entire cinema genre, Blaxplotation; perhaps also can be considered the godfather of rap with his long monologues, contributed to the "disco - soul" if this tag is correct or ultra-up-tempo for dance soul tracks)

Anyway, despite of these facts, from my teens on I allways have had Mr. Ike in a high place on my list of favorite vocalists [[and instrumentalists!) and "It's Heaven To Me" or the instrumental "Eli's Love Theme" are both IMHO a definition of what SOUL means.

PeaceNHarmony
10-24-2019, 06:51 PM
Get all 3: essential reading for soul fans.
Detroit 67, Memphis 68 and Harlem 69.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stuart-Cosgrove/e/B001HPHB4U%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_shareThanks, Jack20! I shall.

Probbie24
10-28-2019, 06:18 PM
Thanks for sharing that StuBass1. Isaac Hayes is one of the ones I regret never seeing I in concert.
Definitely a trailblazer .
If someone said he invented disco with SHAFT, I could understand their argument. So many of its elements [[wah wah , cooing female backups, constant beat , high hat)became commonplace in disco including of all things the flute .
HOT BUTTERED SOUL was certainly revolutionary. Shows what can be done when given free reign and time to explore ideas in the studio as he had .
I'm glad to hear he was a nice guy , I always had that impression.

All true. I still love him today. But I say Motown had the sound of Disco with Cloud nine in 1968. A high hat and second drummer going hard was first. This sound alone gave Motown it's first Grammy!