Mary with Rhonda and her son

[blackguy69]

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i just saw this

[marv2]

That's Mary's Goddaughter. Mary's daughter, Turkessa is Diana Ross' Goddaughter.

[marv2]

Here's Diana Ross with a headlock on Mary Wilson's son Willie

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[bradsupremes]

Here's Diana Ross with a headlock on Mary Wilson's son Willie

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That’s Mary with Willie in a headlock.

[marv2]

That’s Mary with Willie in a headlock.

Willie thinks it's Diana.

[marv2]

Here is the picture enlarged. It is Diana:

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[luke]

Sure looks like Diana to me...and her figure

[marv2]

Sure looks like Diana to me...and her figure

The eyes and mouth really give it away. Also the shape of Diane's face.

[lakeside]

Whatever happened to Willie?

[TheMotownManiac]

It’s Mary. Diana never had tits like that, nor us it her posture. Blow it up, you’ll see Mary’s face.

[marv2]

Whatever happened to Willie?

He's still around. He lives in LA now and is self employed. I think he also recently became a grandpa.

[marv2]

It’s Mary. Diana never had tits like that, nor us it her posture. Blow it up, you’ll see Mary’s face.

That is Diana Ross according to Willie.

[Circa 1824]

It looks like a Vandella to me.

[Bluebrock]

That is not Diana Ross. It is Mary Wilson.

[Roberta75]

Thats Mary Wilson if you zoom in you can tell clear as day. Theres one person here saying its Diana but the rest of us know its Mary. Id say the majority [[but one) rules.

[milven]

That's Mary's Goddaughter. Mary's daughter, Turkessa is Diana Ross' Goddaughter.


How many godmothers does Rhonda have? On Page 312 of Motown: Music, Money, Sex, and Power it says

"Now Ross had shown up at the movie set where Gordy was because her daughter, twelve-year-old Rhonda Silberstein, had gotten a role as an extra in a dance scene. It was her godmother, Suzanne de Passe, who had arranged the bit part, .."

[blackguy69]

Truth be told that pic that Marv posted isn’t clear enough to tell who exactly it is

[blackguy69]

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August 1968 LA Fourm

[midnightman]

That's Mary. Since when Diana been curvaceous? Lol

[midnightman]

Anyway cute pic of Rhonda, Mary and Rhonda's son.

[blackguy69]

Does anyone have a clear pic so it can be settled

[marv2]

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August 1968 LA Fourm

Hey I remember that picture too!

[Roberta75]

Anyway cute pic of Rhonda, Mary and Rhonda's son.

I think that photo of Mary and Rhonda and Rhondas son Raif was taken at the LA premiere of the new showtime Motown documentary. Evan Ross was also there.

[captainjames]

Suzanne De Passe is Rhonda's Godmother and it has be written and documented in several places. I have never read or heard Diana, Mary or Rhonda say Mary was her Godmother as well. The pics above are from a Soul Newspaper and I have those stored away in the attic. I am 200% sure of the pic of Willie with the lady's arm around his neck is Mary and Mary will tell you the same thing. The lady with her hand above Willie head as he dances is Diana.

In fact I don't think Flo even had Godparents for her girls and if she did I have never seen it written nor anyone around or close enough to say so.

[BayouMotownMan]

Suzanne De Passe is Rhonda's Godmother and it has be written and documented in several places. I have never read or heard Diana, Mary or Rhonda say Mary was her Godmother as well. The pics above are from a Soul Newspaper and I have those stored away in the attic. I am 200% sure of the pic of Willie with the lady's arm around his neck is Mary and Mary will tell you the same thing. The lady with her hand above Willie head as he dances is Diana.

In fact I don't think Flo even had Godparents for her girls and if she did I have never seen it written nor anyone around or close enough to say so.

Completely correct CaptainJames

[marv2]

Here's another one of Diane with Willie in New Jersey:

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[milven]

Suzanne De Passe is Rhonda's Godmother and it has been written and documented in several places. I have never read or heard Diana, Mary or Rhonda say Mary was her Godmother as well........

In one of the many Mary interviews posted here recently, Mary, herself said it. Maybe in her mind, she is, but the official godparent is Suzanne. The titles of an aunt, uncle, godparent etc are sometimes used loosely, but affectionately. But sometimes your "Uncle" Andy is just one your parent's friend Andy.

[marv2]

Not to keep beating a dead horse [[but sometimes it's fun! LOL). As we can see, Willie has on the same jacket and pants in both pictures. While Diana has on the same wig and dress in both pictures. Just thought I'd point that out!

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[luke]

I thought Diane padded her front and Mary padded her back! It’s nice to see Rhonda and Mary enjoying the moment.

[marv2]

I thought Diane padded her front and Mary padded her back! It’s nice to see Rhonda and Mary enjoying the moment.

Yeah and as time went on and they had more money, she was able to use the more expensive stuff to pad herself rather than using Kleenex! LOL!

[bradsupremes]

Not to keep beating a dead horse [[but sometimes it's fun! LOL). As we can see, Willie has on the same jacket and pants in both pictures. While Diana has on the same wig and dress in both pictures. Just thought I'd point that out!

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Mary’s wig is very similar to Diana’s. Believe me, it’s Mary with Willie in a headlock.

[marv2]

Mary’s wig is very similar to Diana’s. Believe me, it’s Mary with Willie in a headlock.

You are just going by the titties. That is Diana Ross! Look at the ring and which hand it is on. Then look at the pics with her hand raised above his head and you will see the same ring even! It's also on the same hand in the pic that was taken in Jersey.

[marv2]

This is photo from the same show at the LA Forum on Aug. 16, 1969 [[Billboard Magazine). Diana Ross and Mary Wilson are not wearing similar wigs. So you need to show me a picture of what your talking about Brad:

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[marv2]

Here is a bit larger version:

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[Roberta75]

Mary said in a radio interview that Rhonda was also on but Mary said it 5 minute before Rhona joined. This is the first time ive heard Mary say that Rhondas her God daughtet. Im doubting her claim. Maybe as you say its like Dianas kids expect Rhonda calling Berry Gordy uncle BG.

[Roberta75]

Yeah and as time went on and they had more money, she was able to use the more expensive stuff to pad herself rather than using Kleenex! LOL!

You and Luke sure know everything about the Supremes stage dresses and wigs but you also know a lot about padding front and backs of Supremes gowns. Im real impressed.

[bradsupremes]

This is photo from the same show at the LA Forum on Aug. 16, 1969 [[Billboard Magazine). Diana Ross and Mary Wilson are not wearing similar wigs. So you need to show me a picture of what your talking about Brad:

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The photo of Willie on stage with Diana and in a headlock with Mary is not the same show as the one you just posted photos of the girls in their personal clothes. They appeared at the Forum in 1968 and 1969. You confusing the two. The gowns were for the 1968 show. The personal clothes were worn for the 1969 show. But hey, what do I know? It's not like I researched this stuff for Mary's book.

And it's Mary. Just look at the face. Go on believing it's Diana, but Mary confirmed to me it's her.

[Roberta75]

The photo of Willie on stage with Diana and in a headlock with Mary is not the same show as the one you just posted photos of the girls in their personal clothes. They appeared at the Forum in 1968 and 1969. You confusing the two. The gowns were for the 1968 show. The personal clothes were worn for the 1969 show. But hey, what do I know? It's not like I researched this stuff for Mary's book.

And it's Mary. Just look at the face. Go on believing it's Diana, but Mary confirmed to me it's her.

Thanks for confirming its Mary BradSupremes. I knew it was.

[TheMotownManiac]

LOL I also thought of asking her, but I forgot about it.

As for Mary being Rhonda’s Godmother, you know Mary gets carried away with her speak, I love her to death, but, it’s a character flaw she has. She doesn’t mean to be......… Untruthful, I mean it’s not her intent to be, I don’t think, at least in most cases, she just gets carried away with what she’s saying and, frankly, makes shit up sometimes on the spur of the moment for no reason. She even admits to having issues with telling the truth in her books, and others have spoken about this issue as well. Mary told me that she and Diana were rarely in touch after January 14, 1970…… And for several years almost never. It would make no sense whatsoever for Diana to ask Mary to be godmother to any of her children, and I do not believe that she ever did.

[marv2]

The photo of Willie on stage with Diana and in a headlock with Mary is not the same show as the one you just posted photos of the girls in their personal clothes. They appeared at the Forum in 1968 and 1969. You confusing the two. The gowns were for the 1968 show. The personal clothes were worn for the 1969 show. But hey, what do I know? It's not like I researched this stuff for Mary's book.

And it's Mary. Just look at the face. Go on believing it's Diana, but Mary confirmed to me it's her.

They performed several songs in their street clothes and in their traditional stage costumes. The Jackson 5 opened for them. These pics are from the same show, same day August 16, 1969. That is Diana Ross!

[bradsupremes]

They performed several songs in their street clothes and in their traditional stage costumes. The Jackson 5 opened for them. These pics are from the same show, same day August 16, 1969. That is Diana Ross!

The photos of them in their gowns are from the 1968 show they did at the Forum with Stevie Wonder. They’re featured in the Soul Illustrated magazine that reads “Winter 1968” at the top. Want further proof? Cindy’s wearing a long wig in the 1969 show. These 1968 photos show her with a short, bouffant style.

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As I said, I’ve done this research. I know what I’m talking about, but please do go on like I don’t.

[blackguy69]

We’ve gone far off what the thread was supposed to be about.

[marv2]

The photos of them in their gowns are from the 1968 show they did at the Forum with Stevie Wonder. They’re featured in the Soul Illustrated magazine that reads “Winter 1968” at the top. Want further proof? Cindy’s wearing a long wig in the 1969 show. These 1968 photos show her with a short, bouffant style.

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As I said, I’ve done this research. I know what I’m talking about, but please do go on like I don’t.

Ok now look at Diana's wig in those pics you posted.

[jim aka jtigre99]

Very nice photo of Miss Wilson with Rhonda Ross Kendrick and her son. Pleasure to see such a cordial picture of the three of them. The other picture is taking away from the intent of the thread. I do see that in my look it is Miss Wilson in that picture, as well. But, prefer to focus that Miss Wilson is there at a Motown premiere and photographed with Miss Ross' daughter and granddaughter. Very pleasant to see.

[Roberta75]

Ok now look at Diana's wig in those pics you posted.

I know you are real familiar with Mary and Dianes wigs Marv2 but im sticking with BradSupremes that its mary in the photo with Wille. I mean Brad ask Mary and she confirmed its her.

Have a real nice Sunday.

[Roberta75]

Very nice photo of Miss Wilson with Rhonda Ross Kendrick and her son. Pleasure to see such a cordial picture of the three of them. The other picture is taking away from the intent of the thread. I do see that in my look it is Miss Wilson in that picture, as well. But, prefer to focus that Miss Wilson is there at a Motown premiere and photographed with Miss Ross' daughter and granddaughter. Very pleasant to see.

Yes it really is nice to see.

[lakeside]

Here's Diana Ross with a headlock on Mary Wilson's son Willie

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Oh hell....it's neither Ross nor Wilson....it's Chantel Baker!

[marv2]

Oh hell....it's neither Ross nor Wilson....it's Chantel Baker!

Nah, it is Diana Ross with Willie. Besides, Chantel was still in school and could not get a pass...........hehehehehehe!

[LoveSupreme]

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i just saw this

Thanks for sharing this picture. It's nice when someone posts something positive on this forum. It's like finding water in the desert....

[RanRan79]

Thanks for sharing this picture. It's nice when someone posts something positive on this forum. It's like finding water in the desert....

Perhaps the truest statement to be found on Soulful Detroit.

[3677danielr]

A Vandella...lol. you need glasses.

[marybrewster]

1968 or 1969.....either or, Diana would not have been bothered by Willie Wilson. Or Tony Turner for that matter.

[gman]

I would have to go with it being Mary....Diana's lower face is much more angular....and there is ample bust...