Motowniest Non Motown Song?

[Optimal Saint]

What non Motown label song do you think sounds most like a Motown Song?

Covers of Motown songs don’t count

I would say Cool Jerk by the Capitols but if I remember right wasn’t it all Funk Brothers playing on it? Which to me would disqualify it

I always thought that Karma Chameleon by Boy George had a Motownesque feel to it

When the Motown sound became a phenomenon a lot of labels and artists tried to emulate it

Who do you think did it the best?

[Pandakins]

This wasn't the best song in the world, but Love Games by Belle and the the Devotions had a very Supremes style to it. It was a moderate hit in the UK in about 1984

[Pandakins]

...and another one springs to mind, Maxine Nightingale and 'Get Back Where We Started From' - that still sounds great

[Motown Eddie]

Good question: here's a few songs that I think sound most like a Motown Song.

1. "A Lover's Concerto"-The Toys
2. "Rescue Me"-Fontella Bass
3. "Church Of The Poison Mind"-Culture Club
4. "Maneater"-Hall & Oates
5. "Walking On Sunshine"-Katrina & The Waves

[WaitingWatchingLookingForAChance]

"Freeway Of Love"- Aretha Franklin

[motony]

besides those mentioned: "The 81" by Candy & the Kisses, "The Real Thing" by Tina Britt, "The Cow" by Bill Robinson & the Quails[[Dade, 1963), [[Just Like)Romeo & Juliet by The Reflections. There are many more I just can't think of them.

[johnny_raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70W1WIOvWsw

Written by Jerry Butler, Council Gay & Sylvester Potts, but not recorded for Motown.

[WaitingWatchingLookingForAChance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70W1WIOvWsw

Written by Jerry Butler, Council Gay & Sylvester Potts, but not recorded for Motown.

Wow, what a great song! Sometimes it's the non-Motown songs that captured the flavor better than Motown itself. Never heard this one before, so my thanks for posting this here.

[bradsupremes]

"Sunday Morning People" - Honey Cone

Written and Produced by Holland-Dozier-Holland. Instrumental by the Funk Brothers. Sounds like it was cut right down in Studio A.

[midnightman]

This one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVzAH0FtNwg

I swore the first time I heard it and with the harmonica, I was like "wait until Stevie hears this". LOL

As a kid I thought he actually played on it. :)

[sansradio]

"Freedom" by Wham! gets my vote.

[midnightman]

"Freedom" by Wham! gets my vote.

That's a real good one!

[marv2]

"Build Me Up Buttercup" by the Foundations.

[marv2]

The Flirtations - Nothing But A Heartache

[thanxal]

Opus 17 [[Don’t You Worry ‘bout Me) The Four Seasons. Has the sax solo bridge and all.

[daviddesper]

Like the Mamie song a lot!!! Did she record others?

[mowest]

Run, Baby Run [[Back Into My Arms) by the Newbeats [[1965)

[WaitingWatchingLookingForAChance]

https://youtu.be/fltVcMfeQLo

Shangri-Las "Right Now and Not Later"

[WaitingWatchingLookingForAChance]

https://youtu.be/Up8zkw8u0rE

Bobby Hebb [[of "Sunny" fame) "Love Love Love" really love the drums working overtime on that Motown 4-on-the-floor beat.

[WaitingWatchingLookingForAChance]

https://youtu.be/WYF6kb5sdao

Al Kent- "The Way You've Been Acting Lately"

[robb_k]

15024
"Lucky To Be Loved By You" and "Don't Lead Me On Baby" by Emanuel Lasky [[Laskey):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JS1tkwk8M0

[robb_k]

15025
This was probably written by George Clinton while The Parliaments were at Motown, with The Temptations in mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcaAvmmGRBk

[robb_k]

15026
Here's the other:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqH8scvsHpY

[robb_k]

15026
Here's another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRm-LM5AEHo

[robb_k]

15026
Here's another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YKg_eoJdFI

[robb_k]

15027
Here's one of J.J. Barnes' many Motowny cuts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=716KV8arosM
Funk Brothers, Joe Hunter and Mike Terry, among others play on this, Martha & Vandellas sing background, Love-Tones' Carl Jones wrote it

[rovereab]

Back In Love Again - Donna Summer
Loco In Acapulco - Four Tops
I'm Your Man - Wham [[would segue well into Love Is Like An Itching I think)
Be My Baby - Vanessa Paradis
Town Called Malice - Jam

[mysterysinger]

Len Barry "1-2-3" [[ripped off a "Ask Any Girl") and "Like a Baby".

Felice Taylor "I Feel Love Coming On" and "It May Be Winter Outside" [[ripped off "Everything's Good About You").

[masterblaster]

No ones mentioned "Higher And Higher" and "I Get The Sweetest Feeling" by Jackie Wilson or is that too obvious.

[soulwally]

The first of my choices, a UK hit, with some very Motowny touches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXK71NEFkyI

[soulwally]

...and my second. You can actually hear Smokey doing this, and I think the video deliberately latches on to the Motown vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2l_OBsq3Lc

[Motown Eddie]

Can't forget about these Motown influenced gems;

1. The Shirelles-"Look Away" & "Last Minute Miracle"
2. Dee Dee Sharp-"Deep Dark Secret", "There Ain't Nothing I Wouldn't Do For You" & "Standing In The Need Of Love"
3. The Orlons-"Envy"
4. Christine Cooper-"S.O.S. [[Heart In Distress)" & "Heartaches Away My Boy"
5. Frankie Beverly & The Butlers-"Because Of My Heart"
6. Dusty Springfield-"I Can't Hear You No More"

[rovereab]

No ones mentioned "Higher And Higher" and "I Get The Sweetest Feeling" by Jackie Wilson or is that too obvious.

Yes, completely forgot about Jackie Wilson. His Best Of The Original Soul Brother 2 CD set includes many Motown sound alikes. Try these songs:

https://youtu.be/wMJ8EMGsyPI

https://youtu.be/L2lITj5M7Is

[mike_sku]

How about "This Time It's Love" by the Tymes or "If This is Love [[I'd Rather Be Lonely)" by the Precisions?

[TomatoTom123]

The first of my choices, a UK hit, with some very Motowny touches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXK71NEFkyI

Love that one soulwally! Great tribute to Motown and Smokey.

Check this out: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/678479/My-favourite-photograph-by-singer-Martin-Fry/amp

[TomatoTom123]

Great thread Op Saint! I can't think of any right now that haven't been mentioned but I do I will come straight back. :D

[TomatoTom123]

I have some ideas now!!!

Firstly, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGe3GFWEO2I

[TomatoTom123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcTGf_Ma_fI

[TomatoTom123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEjRsY_XeKA

Love this!

[thanxal]

This perhaps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NGkbjIxk68

[TomatoTom123]

Love that one thanx!

[TomatoTom123]

Rod had a great Motown soundalike on his new album last year!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynd_2Yjf8Gs

[TomatoTom123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kuz6CdDBOg

guilty pleasure!!

[robb_k]

15029
Barrett Strong and Sonny Sanders made this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433nN9OfI58

[thanxal]

15027
Here's one of J.J. Barnes' many Motowny cuts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=716KV8arosM
Funk Brothers, Joe Hunter and Mike Terry, among others play on this, Martha & Vandellas sing background, Love-Tones' Carl Jones wrote it
Robb, This one stands out as a really great example of a non-Motown Motown-sounding song. Something tells me you actually own these original 45s. Am I correct in this assumption?

[robb_k]

Robb, This one stands out as a really great example of a non-Motown Motown-sounding song. Something tells me you actually own these original 45s. Am I correct in this assumption?
15030
Yes, you are correct.
Here's one by Kim Weston:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fCfjlfnmkM

[robb_k]

15031
Here's another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI9Y4eHkIDg

[thanxal]

15030
Yes, you are correct.
Here's one by Kim Weston:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fCfjlfnmkM
I've seen you post here over the years and your collection of Motown/Soul/DooWop/ etc pieces must be the most extensive north of any library. I love such collections. They really do document the social history of this country.

[robb_k]

I've seen you post here over the years and your collection of Motown/Soul/DooWop/ etc pieces must be the most extensive north of any library. I love such collections. They really do document the social history of this country.
I've got four walls of just obscure Detroit and Chicago Soul 45s from 1959-70. But my entire collection is R&B, Blues, Jazz, Gospel and soul music from 1936-1972.
You'll like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCyOzsEzWHo

[thanxal]

I've got four walls of just obscure Detroit and Chicago Soul 45s from 1959-70. But my entire collection is R&B, Blues, Jazz, Gospel and soul music from 1936-1972.
You'll like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCyOzsEzWHo
I do! what year is this?

[robb_k]

I do! what year is this?
15032
1965. Motown's Dave Hamilton[[piano & guitar) and George McGregor[[drums) made this . Every record I put on this thread was made with ex-Motowners using current Motown
musicians, recording in Detroit.
You'll like this, too [[Motown L.A.):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8CDJnIzQeI

[robb_k]

15033
Probably the most Motowny of them all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp4rb20reY4

[robb_k]

15034
This is OUR OWN Spyder Turner, produced and arranged by OUR OWN Dennis Coffey, with Mile Theodore, recorded at Ralph's own Terra Shirma studios. And you can bet several other Motowners were involved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvbR5Vd5f4

[robb_k]

15035
Couldn't do without Jack Ashford's Pied Piper Productions[[The Cavaliers - who were David Ruffin'd back-up group when he left The Temptations):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyh-RhDSans

[robb_k]

15036
How could we leave out Don Davis Productions [[Solid Hitbound):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0IU8wv5FIk

[robb_k]

15037
One of Harry Balk's best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vIkzM4FQlg

[robb_k]

15038
Another of Harry Balk's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah4YNI5vSIQ

[johnny_raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlPE1rEdAdI

R.I.P. SHARON JONES :[[

[jboy88]

Darell Banks- Open the Door To Your Heart!
Honey Cone-Want Ads
Aretha- Respect, I Can’t See Myself Leaving You
The O’jays- Lipstick Traces
JJ Barnes- Baby, Please Come Home
Johnnie Taylor-I Ain’t Particular

[robb_k]

15039
The Dynamics before "Ice Cream Song":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQWAWtifqXQ

[bradsupremes]

Dionne Bromfield - "Ouch That Hurt"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTkdW7JEv3k

[robb_k]

15040
The O'Jays had much more Motowny sounding cuts than "Lipstick Traces". They had ex-Motowners, Don Davis, Jack Ashford, Mike Terry record them in Detroit, using The Funk Brothers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4cdIvBAGzg

[robb_k]

15041
Here's another, written by ex-Motowner, Don Juan Mancha, and soon-to-be Motowner, Edwin Starr:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjZrOfdZNxE

[robb_k]

15042
Here's A Deon Jackson song written and produced by 2 ex-Motowners Popcorn Wylie & Tony Hester, and arranged by ex-Motowner, Mike Terry, that was recorded at United Sound, using The Funk Brothers, and sounds more Motownish than any of his others [[which all sounded something like Motown):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNxG5-l4eg

[robb_k]

15043
J.J. Barnes had many:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUZu_xgzr4M

[robb_k]

15044
Here's one from Head Funk Brother, Joe Hunter, with Mike Terry on Bari Sax, using The Funk Brothers. This is Detroit's first Dramatics [[from 1963), before the Ron Banks group. This has Harry [[Lee) Gates on lead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvodizdx3Sc

[marv2]

J. J. Barnes - Baby Please Come Back Home


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n82CFE7Fdc

[marv2]

This one by Steve Winwood sounded so much like "Motown" that he got sued for it LOL!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_vkKozA8OI

[robb_k]

15045
Another great Theodore-Coffey cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjALToNE0bc

[midnightman]

This one by Steve Winwood sounded so much like "Motown" that he got sued for it LOL!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_vkKozA8OI

SHOTGUN! SHOOT BEFORE THEY RUN NOW! DO THE JERK BABY!

Oh sorry. Lol

[robb_k]

15046
Here's one from L.A,'s Motown people - Willie Hutch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0NfadP3slo&list=RDU0NfadP3slo&start_radio =1&t=44

[marv2]

SHOTGUN! SHOOT BEFORE THEY RUN NOW! DO THE JERK BABY!

Oh sorry. Lol

Well it was actually "I'm A Road Runner" by Jr. Walker & the Allstars that it was claimed that he copied portions of.

[Optimal Saint]

There are a lot of great songs here, a lot I’d never heard

Bonus points: what Motown artists do you think should have sung these songs?

I think Martha & the Vandellas would have done well with the Flirtations Nothing but a Heartache

Marvin Gaye could do any JJ Barnes song
I’d have to be listening really closely to realize that Please Come Home isn’t Marvin

[144man]

Good call, Motown Eddie & Midnight Man for suggesting Culture Club's "Church of the Poison Mind" and Soul Wally for Godley & Creme's "Wedding Bells". Those are not obvious choices, but I bought them at the time because I thought they sounded like Motown.

I would suggest Patrice Holloway's "Love and Desire" and "Ecstasy".

[Philles/Motown Gary]

Dobie Gray - "The In-Crowd"
Mary Wells - "Use Your Head"
Mary Wells - "Everlovin' Boy"

[Philles/Motown Gary]

Len Barry - "It's A Crying Shame"
[[Thanks to Len Barry -Topic for uploading to YouTube)
https://youtu.be/ej0Z6ohXv8U

[Motown Eddie]

Can't forget about Edwin Starr's first singles on Ric-Tic [[they sounded so much like Motown that B.G. bought the company and Edwin became a Motown artist).

https://img.discogs.com/-lTFK4WNU0hVIXxVcMo37miMQ68=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc[[):format[[jpeg):mode_rgb[[):qualit y[[40)/discogs-images/R-481478-1386954985-5570.jpeg.jpg
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[Motown Eddie]

There are a lot of great songs here, a lot I’d never heard

Bonus points: what Motown artists do you think should have sung these songs?

I think Martha & the Vandellas would have done well with the Flirtations Nothing but a Heartache

Marvin Gaye could do any JJ Barnes song
I’d have to be listening really closely to realize that Please Come Home isn’t Marvin

Good question OS:
Smokey Robinson & The Miracles [[or Marvin Gaye) should've sang Deon Jackson' "Love Makes The World Go Round"
The Supremes should've sang Christine Cooper's "S.O.S. [[Heart In Distress)" or "Heartaches Away My Boy" [[and they should've done The Toys' "A Lover's Concerto" first)
And just picture The Contours doing The Capitol's "Cool Jerk".

[PeaceNHarmony]

This one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpCRfCZJNqM

[Philles/Motown Gary]

Yeah, PeaceNHarmony, and this version, too! Reminiscent of Kiki Dee's Motown recordings.
[[Thanks to Various Artists - Topic for uploading to YouTube)

https://youtu.be/Zz1EEC30WbE

[robb_k]

15053
Madeline Bell's songs don't sound ANYTHING like Motown to me. They sound like those heavily orchestrated New York arrangements like Don Costa.

The Evie Sands version sounds a little more like Motown [[at least the beat does).

[marv2]

15053
Madeline Bell's songs don't sound ANYTHING like Motown to me. They sound like those heavily orchestrated New York arrangements like Don Costa.

The Evie Sands version sounds a little more like Motown [[at least the beat does).

I agree. The Madeline Bell recordings do not sound like Motown recordings. She recorded songs that were also recorded by Motown artists, but the sounds are not similar at all to the overall recordings.

[robb_k]

15054
This is the only later song I remember that actually sounds something like classic '60s Motown [[more than 1 different element):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgY4Te0uFs

[marv2]

15054
This is the only later song I remember that actually sounds something like classic '60s Motown [[more than 1 different element):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgY4Te0uFs

I thought so too! When I first heard it, I thought it was Mary Wilson leading the Supremes at that time [[Cindy Birdsong and Scherrie Payne).

[Philles/Motown Gary]

The Devonnes - "I'm Gonna Pick Up My Toys [[And Go Home)"

[[Thanks to bricomaligno for uploading to YouTube)

https://youtu.be/l0RHyPPXCoQ

[robb_k]

15057
So many of the Barrett Strong and Sonny SAnders collaborations for Carl Davis, in Chicago sound very "Motownish":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhquJX0gJuw&list=RDxhquJX0gJuw&start_radio =1

[BayouMotownMan]

To me, it's "My Man, A Sweet Man" by Millie Jackson. Sounds like it was recorded in the Snake Pit with the Funks and the Detroit Symphony string section.

Also her prior hit, "Ask Me What You Want" had a Motown feel with an intro similiar to You Keep Me Hangin' On

[robb_k]

15057
All of Joe Hunter's and [[Mailman) Fred Brown's productions with Mickay's/Ring and later labels, sound very "Motownish":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v81nzHMbf1I
This one not only features The Funk Brothers, but also Martha and The Vandellas.

[robb_k]

15059
Just about every recording Darrell Banks made sounded like Motown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROHcDjdKneY

[robb_k]

15059
Here's another Strong/Sanders collaboration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x6311yiF9k

[robb_k]

15059
Here's another Joe Hunter/Fred Brown production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT9DAiKd94E
Orthea/Ortheia is J.J.'s Sister.

[biggestfourtops fan]

This great unreleased gem from Aretha gives me Motown vibes. SO SOON https://youtu.be/G3oRlXoZlmM

[robb_k]

15062
I'm pretty sure this was recorded by Ollie McLaughlin in early 1962, while renting Motown's Snakepit, and using The Funk Brothers on instrumentals, and The Andantes as the background singers. It sounds EXACTLY like The Marvelettes singing a song written for them in early 1962:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUhmnFqrV4Y&list=OLAK5uy_mWE6-SfChq-Uj9xqED0ttWhXpVi-YPRkU&index=3

[robb_k]

15063
Here's an L.A. production from 1966 that sounds something like Brenda Holloway singing a Jobete Music reject song, being produced for lease to an L.A. independent label. Cousins Chester and Gary Pipkin, producers at Jobete Music L.A. produced this - so maybe it is her, or Patrice? It sounds something like an L.A. Jobete production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNW8Mue_nws

[robb_k]

15065
Here's another Don Davis & George McGregor production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9oTeE_cOYc

[johnny_raven]

The Wooden Nickels were Brenda & Patrice Holloway and Pat Hunt.

[mowsville]

Robb-k.....what wonderful tracks you have posted..absolute gems each and every one...thank you.

[robb_k]

The Wooden Nickels were Brenda & Patrice Holloway and Pat Hunt.
15067
The backup voices sound to me like men. I don't hear any female voices in the background.

[robb_k]

15068
Here's another Thelma cut that sounds pure Motown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OtISHEEyMI

[robb_k]

15069
Chicago's Ric Williams sent Chicago's Ruby Stackhouse [[Andrews) to Detroit to have Bridges, Knight & Eaton record her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS0NGOPvpok

[robb_k]

15070
This Willie Jones and The Chimes cut sounds like 1959 Miracles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CamcwfzxR08

The flute solo sounds like Motown's Beans Bowles. In 1959 most of Motown's workers were not on salary, but paid for the individual tasks they performed.

[robb_k]

15071
Here's one from Van McCoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYO0dGXBrtE

[robb_k]

15072
Here's Yvonne Vernee[[Allen)'s group, The Donays, recording for Wilbur Golden's Correc-Tone Records, produced by ex-Motowner, Robert Bateman, arranged by ex-Motowner Popcorn Wylie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Z1x0tS0wY
It sounds like a 1962 Marvelettes' song.

[robb_k]

15073
Here's one produced by Gene Redd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPVi1HR7VI

[robb_k]

15074
Here's another Don Davis production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8j1nKFeMXI

[robb_k]

15075
Here's Detroit's Gwen Owens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZAwPnGOJPE

[robb_k]

15076
Here's another great Thelma cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8fuK7TvR-Q

[robb_k]

15077
Here's another Harry Balk Vol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lgrchLZ4ccumes' cut:

[robb_k]

15078
An obvious one-but should be here, anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFhGyBxqGDo

[robb_k]

15079
Another great Detroit "Off-Motown" cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abw4DpyZ_u0

[robb_k]

15080
Here's yet another of ex-Motowner, Don Davis' productions, by fellow ex-Motowner, Clyde Wilson [[AKA Steve Mancha) released by a Mike Hanks label-no less!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgteoUZdloI

[robb_k]

15081
Here's another by New York Jobete Music Office's Gene Redd-recorded at Golden World:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQRmlRJXrpM

[robb_k]

15082
Another great L.A. Jobete staff production by Marc Gordon and Frank Wilson, by Mary Love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q9f2SLin_Q

[robb_k]

15083
Here's yet another L.A. Jobete staff production by Gordon & Wilson, sung by Frank, himself, disguised as "Eddie" Wilson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H9wbtHedAA

[robb_k]

15084
Another great cut by an ex-L.A. Jobete producer, Ed Cobb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2OCNQIAocY

[robb_k]

15085
And another Ed Cobb production of a song written originally to sell to Jobete music, but produced on an independent label, after Cobb and Berry Gordy had a falling out over Cobb's not getting producer credit for Brenda Holloway's "Every Little Bit Hurts"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBIUeFdAMVQ

[robb_k]

15086
Here's Ron Banks' Dramatics. I can hear The Temptations singing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LusloOYHp5c

[robb_k]

15087Here's ex-Motowner, Herman Griffin, singing another Van McCoy song, produced by ex-Motowner, Andre Williams, and arranged by Motown arranger, Dale Warren:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGd5sbjjlkc

[robb_k]

15088
Another great Darrell Banks cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swzWiQciIFw

[robb_k]

15089
Here's backgrounds produced in Detroit by ex-Motowner, Dave Hamilton, used by Chicago producer, Maurice Jackson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSAvA7hfN8

[robb_k]

15090
Joshie Armstead and Mel Collins sent their Chicago artists to ex-Motowner and Detroit producer, Mike Terry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk0wIiLPVTQ

[robb_k]

15091
Sidney Barnes teamed with J.J. Jackson to write Motownish songs together when his former full-time Motown writing partner, George Kerr, started his own label. The wrote for Mary Wells, among others, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jACeW01k_tc

[robb_k]

15092
Here's Detroit's Dynamics singing a Detroit song they wrote, but recorded in Memphis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd5cpt05qPc

[MIKEW-UK]

15089
Here's backgrounds produced in Detroit by ex-Motowner, Dave Hamilton, used by Chicago producer, Maurice Jackson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSAvA7hfN8


Robb, now that's interesting to me! I put up a post recently on Maurice Jackson but little response. In fact you were the only person to respond. I am surprised to learn from your post he had his own label and issued the Monique recording, created in Detroit, even though he is the master of the Chicago sound....
https://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?22434-Maurice-Jackson-and-The-Independents

[mowsville]

15075
Here's Detroit's Gwen Owens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZAwPnGOJPE
oh my lord Robb...i rushed home from work just to see what other gems you might have posted...and i hear this...im in awe of all your posts..lordy lordy.

[robb_k]

oh my lord Robb...i rushed home from work just to see what other gems you might have posted...and i hear this...im in awe of all your posts..lordy lordy.
15094
And, despite those accolades, I have just barely scratched the surface. I have hardly posted any of the 2 biggest sources: Ed Wingate's Golden World/Ric Tic/Wingate Records, and Don Davis' and LeBaron Taylor's Solid Hitbound Productions [[Revilot/Groovesville/Solid Hit Records, as well as Wilbur Golden's Correc-Tone/SonBert Records, Mike Hanks' labels, and Popcorn Wylie/Tony Hester Productions.

[robb_k]

15095
You should like This Popcorn Wylie/Tony Hester song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v2X9DUpxgY

[robb_k]

15096
Here's another Popcorn Wylie production, for Wilbur Golden's Correc-Tone Records, written by ex-Motowner Wylie and Motown's secretary Janie Bradford [[under the pen name: Nikki Todd):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3yk-LIBl0g

[robb_k]

15097
Here are The Debonairs, an unheralded Detroit girls group who recorded for Ed Wingate's Golden World, and Don Davis' Solid Hitbound Productions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEPa9Vi7auc

[robb_k]

15098
Here's Barbara Jean and The Lyrics from Johnnie Mae Matthews' Big Hit Records, working with Ernest Burt's Magic City Records:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbgdbCPwDcY

[robb_k]

15099
Here's another Terri Bryant Don Davis production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-XvtMercKI

[robb_k]

15100
Here's Monique singing to the other Dave Hamilton Detroit Funk Brothers track that Maurice Jackson somehow got ahold of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNz_MflNA00

[robb_k]

15101
Here's another Barrett Strong-written "Motownish" song sung by The Artistics, recorded in Chicago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOYri7Aapo

[robb_k]

15102
Here's another Parliaments from Golden World:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBgabzr25Kw

[robb_k]

15103
Here's another Big Hit Production by Cynthia & The Imaginary 3 [[formerly The Imaginations), who recorded previously for Magic City and Blue Rock Records:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef04z-AldPA

[robb_k]

15104Another Parliaments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIlT0r7tD_0

[mowsville]

15095
You should like This Popcorn Wylie/Tony Hester song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v2X9DUpxgY
WOW...goosebumps.

[marv2]

This one certainly qualifies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daxiMb0rITA

[Optimal Saint]

Does anyone know berry gordy or Motown in general felt about these songs?

We’re they thinking “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”?

Or “they’re stealing our sound!”?

[robb_k]

15109
Here's another great Tobi Lark song produced by Joe Hunter and Fred Brown. Sorry for the poor sound quality. All the good ones have been removed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TBZ3Ig-Bg

[scanspeak]

Spencer Davis Group - Keep on Running


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kamXvqoL_JA

[arr&bee]

The reason why-deon jackson.

[thanxal]

Just wow, Robb_k. This has been very enlightening for me. I think I’m going to make a playlist just from your posts here! Thanks for bringing all these “lost” tunes forward. Wow.

[144man]

Three from Gamble - Huff on Neptune

We're Only Human - Bunny Sigler & Cindy Scott
Sounds like Marvin & Tammi's "Your Precious Love"

Conquer The World Together - Bunny & Cindy
Sounds Like Marvin & Tammi's "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing"

Great Big Liar - Bunny Sigler
Pushing it I know, but if you take away the Philly strings and if the female backing singers were less strident, it would sound like Marvin Gaye singing to the band track of the Temptations' "Runaway Child Running Wild".

[robb_k]

15116
Here's another outstanding Harry Balk Volumes' cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNPXqRy5hE

[robb_k]

15116
Here's another Motown-sounding Mary Wells:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSQoPU4AqZw

[robb_k]

15116
Here's another of Ed Wingate's Golden World gems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZiNVj_SZUE

[robb_k]

15116
Here's another of Ed Wingate's Ric Tic gems from former and future Motowner, Freddie Gorman [[who also recorded for my record label):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYc8MkacTUs

[robb_k]

15117
Here's one heavily related to Soulful Detroit Forum, produced by Ralph's friend, Fred Saxon, and recorded in his studio, Arranged by Dennis Coffey's friend and work partner, Mike Theodore, and engineered by Bob Ohlsson's colleague, Milan Bogden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8adXuPH3RU

[robb_k]

15118
Here's a Chicago artist sent to Mike Terry, in Detroit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce5f7GHE4zE

[robb_k]

15119
From Frank Brown's Valtone Records out of Detroit-The Fabulous Apollos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qL5nHL2uAo

[robb_k]

15120
Another great Ollie McLaughlin production, arranged by Mike Terry, and written by fabulous songwriter, Sharon McMahon-Deon Jackson's "I Can't Go On":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fvchcnESDQ

[robb_k]

15121
Produced by Marv Johnson, and written by him and Smokey, a Jobete song never recorded by a Motown artist - Johnson took it to competitor, Ed Wingate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW49dUNBSKY

[robb_k]

15122After being pushed out of ex-wife, Mary Wells' life, Herman Griffen brought his Cincinnati lady friend and her group , The Charmaines to Detroit to record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRcMAOIAczQ

[robb_k]

15123
Another from J.J. Barnes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa5NDbBxur0

[robb_k]

15124
The original [[and best version) of "Gino Is A Coward" - "I'm A Coward" from 1962 Produced by Ex-Motowners, Robert Bateman and Sonny Sanders for Wilbur Golden's Correc-Tone Records:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmHBqMcHkWo

[robb_k]

15125
Ex-Motowner, Bob Hamilton, along with other ex-Motowners, Don Juan Mancha and Freddie Gorman, produced The Adorables, who also sang some backgrounds at Motown. The Caucasian ladies shown in the photo are the wrong group. These Adorables were an African-American group from Detroit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w12FKpAueFE

[robb_k]

15126
Ex-Motowner Robert Bateman produced Detroiter, Fred Bridges in early 1962 for Correc-Tone Records. Ex-Motowners, Sonny Sanders and Popcorn Wylie were involved, and The Funk Brothers played on it. It sounds like typical early 1962 Motown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1zp2cnK960

[robb_k]

15127
Another Joe Hunter/Fred Brown J.J. Barnes cut, co-written by ex-Motowner, Dave Hamilton, and backed by The moonlighting Vandellas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqH3RywEGlU

[robb_k]

15128
Here's a strange combination of New Yorkers with only one small connection to Motown-arranger Richard Tee, who was the main arranger and house band leader at Jobete Music's New York office, working with producers Richard Ghottehrer of New York Girl's Group fame, and Seymour Stein of Sire Records, and great Screen Gems-Columbia, Brill Building songwriter Doris Willingham:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsL4UWaT0jI

[robb_k]

15129
My ex-office suite neighbour, and ex-Motowner Mickey Stevenson, with help fro other ex-Motowner, Clarence Paul, move west to, L.A. to hook up with ex-L.A. Jobete sogwriter/producer and future Motown artist, Willy Hutchison [[Hutch), to produce this Oakland group in a typical L.A. Jobete-style song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uhZmk3NGNs

[robb_k]

15130
Here's Lamont Dozier leading The Voice Masters, most of whom later joined Motown's Originals. This sounded like typical 1959 and early 1960 Motown cuts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8BnymnN8XM

[robb_k]

15131
Here's another Motownlike cut from future Motowner, Gwen Owens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iypsbc5fkw&list=RD_iypsbc5fkw&start_radio =1&t=61

[robb_k]

15132
Here's Richard Street and his 2nd Distants group in an early Thelma Records production by Norman Whitfield from 1963. It sounds like a typical 1962 Motown cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svc6LlkO5wU

[robb_k]

15133
Here's a Chicago record by a Chicago artist, recorded by Chicago producers in Chicago, and written by New York writers, Pam Sawyer and Lori Burton [[who later, worked for Motown [[in L.A)). But, it sound more like Detroit than Chicago. I was Barbara Acklin's first solo record. She had sung only backgrounds before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS3m0A-e92Q

[robb_k]

15134
Here's The Fantastic Four sounding "Motownish" - one of the reasons Berry bought out Ed Wingate's Golden World/Ric Tic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq_saR5_hpQ

[robb_k]

15135
Another Darrell Banks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCvkbfXqJ9w

[robb_k]

15136
This Gwen Owens from 1964 sounds "Detroitish", but not really "Motownish". But I like it a lot, so I put it here, anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZViJAWQjoo

[robb_k]

15137
Another J.J. Barnes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_SJtxqPP1I

[robb_k]

15138
Here's Motown musician, Dave Hamilton's daughter from 1964:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A2uAG11Xh8

[robb_k]

15139
Here's another Motownish NY production by ex-Motowner, Robert Bateman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZDyBo3enc8

[robb_k]

15140
That's a song that was produced by Motown's New York Jobete Music office, by one of their major producers, George Kerr, to be given to an existing Detroit Motown single artist or group, It was co-written by Kerr, along with one of his fellow group members in The Serenaders, and Berry Gordy's sister, Lucye Wakefield. But Berry shut down his New York office in fall 1964, because his newly-estranged wife, Raynoma, had pressed up copies of Mary Wells' hit, "My Guy", without his knowledge, and sold them on The East Coast, and kept the money to finance the running of that office. Producers, George Kerr, Sidney Barnes, George Clinton, Gene Redd, Jr., Eddie Singleton, and Raynoma, were fired, and then, had to fend for themselves. They sold the songs they had left in the can, that had not been bought by Motown's Jobete Music to independent New York Area producers, and also produced their own productions using those songs to release on their own independent NY labels, and leased others to other, independent producers. This production was run by Kerr, arranged by Motown New York's arranger, and house band leader, Richard Tee, and leased to Mercury Records, for their artist, Carl Hall. It's former Gospel singer, Hall's only recording that sounds "Motownish".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSlG3P1UsDo

[mowest]

Thanks, robb_k, for posting these tunes, some of which are “hidden gems.” Your collection is awesome!

[robb_k]

15141
Here's another song produced in New York by Gene Redd, Jr. for potential sale to Motown, which probably never got the chance to be reviewed by them. So Redd sold it to Screen Gems-Columbia Music, and recorded it by The Fashioneers, and least the masters to Mercury's Blue Rock "Soul" subsidiary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq69-Rty-tU

[robb_k]

15142
Here's another New York Jobete Music production leased to a tiny NY indie label. Tamala Lewis was George Clinton's ladyfriend. She was backed on this by The Parliaments and their female associated group, The Parlettes [[of which Lewis was a member [[usual lead))George produced the session:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1OZuqLFi9Y

[robb_k]

15143
Here's another J.J. Barnes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyAYtxUmUZw

[robb_k]

15144
This was a non-Motown song and recording before Berry Gordy bought out Artie Fields, as he bought out Ed Wingate, The Colemans of Thelma, and some others. Motown recorded The Spinners singing this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiWt7Z1mJY

[heikki]

Thank you, Robb, for these wonderful sounds.
For me one of the best "Temptations" records is the one below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qsTwPw1pUY

Best regards
Heikki

[robb_k]

15145
Thanks Hekki. This Chi-Lites' cut also sounds Motownish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60logfnZrp0

[robb_k]

15146
Here's another Chicago record that sounds like Motown, produced by ex-Motowner, Andre Williams, and co-written by Detrot Soul writer, Bruce Scott:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YzAvrQ7_V8

[robb_k]

15147
Mike Hanks went to Chicago to make this Mary Wells soundalike:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5JxFE3j2kA

[robb_k]

15148
This sounds like a beginning of The '70s Temptations or Originals ballad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW92bgPXUzo

[robb_k]

15149
This was produced by ex-Motowners Don Juan Mancha and Funk Brother Mike Terry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV5WPRepAsQ

[robb_k]

15150
Even Robert West produced a few Motownish cuts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChFTOtnT9Js

[robb_k]

15151
Here's another Van McCoy production that sounds like Motown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zatDBUVJtek

[robb_k]

15152
Here's another Magic City production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1K5IoXQ9Us

[robb_k]

15153
Here's another great Fantastic Four cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl2sMRWuXRg&start_radio=1&list=RDKl2sMRWuX Rg&t=0

[robb_k]

15154
Here's a little-known cut produced by ex-Motowners, Don Davis, Popcorn Wylie, and Tony Hester:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXGYNIp6n4&index=2&list=RDEMnurugkJOWYJ2P yZNdPTAyQ

[robb_k]

15155
Robert West produced this soundalike of Marv Johnson's early sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8dZItqLhSg

[robb_k]

15156
Here's a song from Jobete Music's New York office [[George Kerr and Sidney Barnes, teamed with Motown's Tom Kemp)not recorded by any Motown artist, so it was sold to Juggy Murray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB4MagqUJyw

[robb_k]

15157
Here's another Sidney Barnes-J.J. Jackson tune patterned in The Motown style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMZNkyyCBWY

[robb_k]

15158
Little Carl Carlton [[starting at 12 years old) was Detroit's off-Motown answer to Little Stevie Wonder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcsnq9XFZl0

[robb_k]

15159
Here's another George Clinton production of Tamala Lewis, with a Jobete Music song that never went to a Motown in-house artist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtFzw9jwrcQ

[robb_k]

15160
Here's another Solid Hitbound production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETLJ6njr4iQ

[robb_k]

15161
Here's is another Deon Jackson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQG960NWiIg

[robb_k]

15162
Here's another Robert Bateman/Sonny Sanders Correc-Tone production, which was leased to Lloyd Price's Double-L Records in New York:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia-c-7xDNtA&t=37s

[robb_k]

15163
Here's another Mary Wells song recorded in Detroit by ex-Motowner, Andre Williams, using Motown people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtSonycI3bw

[robb_k]

15164
Here's The Lollipops singing a Jobete Music song [[albeit from Jobete's New York office), [[and albeit this being New York's Lollipops, rather than Detroit's Motown group, produced by Harry Balk and Duke Browner). This cut sounds a bit like Motown, but would have been better using a lead singer, rather than whole group lead, and would have been better with Benny Benjamin on drums, Jamerson on bass, Messina on guitar, and Mike Terry on Sax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XUwRXfunVs

[TomatoTom123]

Steve Parks' 1981 album Movin' In The Right Direction has Smokey all over it!! It was even released on a label called Solid Smoke!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABghwTfqCEU

[arr&bee]

The whole world is a stage-fantastic four

[timthemod]

Sounding not unlike the Four Tops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI2cvDN_wpc

[timthemod]

And like Smokey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx672-9nONI

[jboy88]

https://youtu.be/9fNKSOYSP1wMore of a tribute, but could have easily been mistaken for Motown!

[Sotosound]

Sounding not unlike the Four Tops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI2cvDN_wpc

Agree there!

[robb_k]

15185
Here's another production by Ex-Motowner, Robert Bateman, and ex-Jobete NY bandleader/arranger, Richard Tee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hepko4Kc8Pc

[robb_k]

15186
Here's another Don Davis Solid Hitbound Production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJPMF96JWqo

[robb_k]

15187
Here's a Frank Wilson cut he produced on himself for L.A. Jobete, but Motown didn't want to release it, so he recorded Connie Clark and released it on L.A. KGFJ DJ Herman Griffith's Joker label:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jyEWP9Ckn0

[robb_k]

15188
Here's an early Norman Whitfield production from late 1963, while he was working for Thelma Records, put out on his own, K.O. [[Knockout) Records, which got him noticed by Motown. It sounds very like a Marvelettes' tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwPh8t0I5vI

[mowest]

[QUOTE=robb_k;504988]15188
Here's an early Norman Whitfield production from late 1963, while he was working for Thelma Records, put out on his own, K.O. [[Knockout) Records, which got him noticed by Motown. It sounds very like a Marvelettes' tune:

Sounds reminiscent of the Holland, Dozer & Gorman compositions “Strange I Know” and “Someday, Someway.” Definitely a Marvelettes-type song. Not bad at all.

[robb_k]

15191
Here's Edwin Starr leading The Holidays for Ed Wingate's Golden World:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZQH8SHcbX8

[robb_k]

15192
Here's another song related to Motown's Jobete Music L.A. office from Producer Kent Harris. Debra Dion sang some backgrounds for their L.A. sessions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihpUmQ5oZo

[robb_k]

15193
Here's sometimes Andante, PatLewis, singing a song produced by ex-Motowner Don Davis, and future Motowner. Leon Ware:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Fzz1H4gXI

[robb_k]

15194
This is purported to be Brenda Holloway, with herself, Patrice and Pat Hunt singing background, and the male voice might be Chester or Gary Pipkin. It was produced by The Pipkin cousins, who had been producers for Motown in L.A. from 1963-67. It is likely that it was a song they wrote while with L.A. Jobete Music Office, which somehow didn't get bought by Motown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNW8Mue_nws

[robb_k]

15195
Detroiters Romeo Taylor and Thurman Hollis [[Sandy Hollis' father, brother or husband?) recorded this Toledo group in Detroit [[Specialty Recorders), and released it after setting up their Me-O label in L.A.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb94tFb5Mc8

[robb_k]

15196
Here'a another Theresa Lindsey cut from Ed Wingate's Golden World, produced by ex-Motowner, Don Davis, and played by the Funk Brothers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RenQJvXeKy8

[mowest]

15194
This is purported to be Brenda Holloway, with herself, Patrice and Pat Hunt singing background, and the male voice might be Chester or Gary Pipkin. It was produced by The Pipkin cousins, who had been producers for Motown in L.A. from 1963-67. It is likely that it was a song they wrote while with L.A. Jobete Music Office, which somehow didn't get bought by Motown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNW8Mue_nws

Now this is a really good one! It does sound a lot like Brenda Holloway but I’m not totally convinced.

[robb_k]

15197
Now this is a really good one! It does sound a lot like Brenda Holloway but I’m not totally convinced.
15197
I'm also not sure it is Brenda. It never even occurred to me back when I bought this new in 1965, that it might be Brenda, as she was contracted to Motown. The Pipkins, like all the producers in Jobete Music's L.A. and N.Y. offices did NOT have exclusive contracts with Motown. They were not only allowed to write songs not offerred to Motown, and produce them on non-Motown artists, but also were allowed to record their own, non-Motown artists for other record companies, using Jobete songs they had written, IF Motown didn't release a record using one of their own singers within six months of Jobete's purchase and publication.

Several sources say it was Brenda, Patrice, and Pat. But, they may all have "researched" that from sources who got that so-called information from one "source", which could have been a rumour.

However, my thinking is that it IS true, because Motown people produced it. I think it is a similar situation to Darlene love moonlighting with The Blossoms. Brenda, and, especially, Patrice, didn't get much money from Motown. So, they had a reason to moonlight.

[robb_k]

15198
Here's one of Johnny Mae Matthews' groups:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4eBEJGc2qw

[robb_k]

15199
This was mentioned:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDq4-oEC76Q

[robb_k]

15201
Here's Witches and The Warlock, a New York group:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLcU77qu_A

[robb_k]

15205
Here's one produced by Ex-Motowner, Ed Cobb, using another Van McCoy song, and an L.A. group connected with several people from the L.A. Jobete office:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmoStTp_MWo

[robb_k]

15206
Here'a another Correc-Tone cut by ex-Motowners:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmoStTp_MWo

[robb_k]

15207
Here's another Correc-Tone cut by ex-Motowners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRdHitDMxvI

[robb_k]

15208
Here's ex-and future Motowner, Freddie Gorman, produced by ex-Motowners, Don Juan Mancha and Bob Hamilton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhAZsC9Zo20

[robb_k]

15209
The Toys recorded in New York, with no Motown people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdqUnHLqTl8

[robb_k]

15210
Here's a Philly group from the 50s singing a mid 60s Motownish song using no Detroit Connections:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQTa66BtkQ

[robb_k]

15211
Here's The Flirtations before they moved to England, written by ex-Motown writer, Sidney Barnes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKEdc3-3YSE

[robb_k]

15212
The Lollipops sounded like Motown before they got there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loIB-e2kmEE

[robb_k]

15213
Yet another Harry Balk Volumes' record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp0i7UE5mi8

[robb_k]

15214
Here's ex-Motown Serenaders' lead singer, Timothy Wilson, produced by ex-Motown producers, George Kerr and Sidney Barnes. This song was recorded by The Monitors, but not released until after 2010. So Kerr and Barnes could use it on their own artist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1xNUp1Wm7k

[robb_k]

15215
This is probably cheating, because it was probably an Anna master:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPeCnIcmUg&index=9&list=RDf270sYemLoI

[robb_k]

15216
This song, produced and arranged by ex-Motowners, Popcorn Wylie and Sonny Sanders, was first recorded by The Velvelettes, but not released till after 2000. So, Wylie used it at Golden World:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyHh2RJI7cA&list=RD8WqiyiURZdA&index=2

[Boogiedown]

Thanks robb_k! Fascinating stuff! Boy the competition was fierce back then wasn't it.
All hoping for that elusive HIT. Exciting times. :cool:

[robb_k]

15217
Here's a J.J. Jackson and Sidney Barnes production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73oQghzuK8Y

[robb_k]

15218This was written for and first recorded by The Four Tops, but not released till after 2000. So it could be taken by Wilson and Gordon to a local L.A. label:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLfp2oHQtG4

[robb_k]

15219
Another Golden World cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9RKK48LqBM

[robb_k]

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Here's one from New York's Juggy Murray, using no Detroit people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTuw5vV2nM

[mowest]

15220
Here's one from New York's Juggy Murray, using no Detroit people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTuw5vV2nM

This was a big R&B hit in ’66 [[Billboard #2) and a moderate Pop hit [[Billboard #45). The percussion is a throwback to Sam Cooke’s “Chain Gang."

[robb_k]

15222
Here's another from L.A.'s Jobete Music Office:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLCXilzbJGk

[mowest]

15222
Here's another from L.A.'s Jobete Music Office:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLCXilzbJGk

Did any Motown act ever record this tune?

[robb_k]

Did any Motown act ever record this tune?
15231
Yes. I think it was Barbara Randolph. But I can't remember. The only Jobete purchased cut The L.A. Jobete crew recorded as independent producers which came out on an independent label that Motown DIDN'T record on their OWN artist, that I can think of, was Mary Love's "You urned My Bitter Into Sweet" [[the BEST of them all-which makes NO sense!).

[mowest]

15231
Yes. I think it was Barbara Randolph. But I can't remember. The only Jobete purchased cut The L.A. Jobete crew recorded as independent producers which came out on an independent label that Motown DIDN'T record on their OWN artist, that I can think of, was Mary Love's "You urned My Bitter Into Sweet" [[the BEST of them all-which makes NO sense!).

Thanks robb_k. I found Barbara Randolph’s version on YouTube [[very good) as well as Mary Love and Linda Lewis doing “...Bitter Into Sweet.” The latter tune certainly should have been given to a Motown act!

[robb_k]

15233
Here's the other Correc-Tone cut I meant to post above that ended up just a link to The Marvello's cut already placed on another post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9FZYXKfwhc

[robb_k]

15234
Here's another from Johnnie Mae Matthews and Ollie McLaughlin teaming up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVVeOM5gAZI

[robb_k]

15235
And now the obvious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3DebcxhLmE

[TomatoTom123]

Edwin Starr & Blinky also recorded "I'm So Thankful" for their 1969 LP Just We Two :)

[robb_k]

15236
Correc-Tone comes back with Wilson Pickett. Robert Bateman, Sonny Sanders and The Supremes on this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yga15vFzbdQ

[robb_k]

15237
Popcorn Wylie produced this Adorables' cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WqiyiURZdA

[robb_k]

15246
Another obvious one from Ed Wingate's factory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef_ONYVsOAM

[cleoharvey]

1-2-3 by Len Barry