Gotta have house...music!!!

[juicefree20]

House Music has been slammed by some for being somewhat simplistic, but there's no fronting on that groove.

Here re a few of my favorites...

The EXTREMELY slept-on 'Family Prayer' by the Robinson/Wall Project Fea. Clifton King...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMrYHL2mLvc&feature=related

Those Guys - Tonite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptxr_RmqXJU&feature=related

THE UNDERGROUND SOLUTION - Luv Dancin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNsu6BCRu8&feature=related

Frankie Knuckles Presents Satoshi Tomiie - Tears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opewcd5gKHo&feature=related

Yeah...that's the idea...'Stomp' by Kyze...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20BPp6zf8U&feature=related

Logic - The Warning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSKpj_pAb6E&feature=related

Kenny Lattimore - Days Like This [[Lattimore Soul House Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcCH3LV1PL0

GYPSY MEN - HEAR THE MUSIC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZV3zfJjhzg&feature=related

Earth People - Dance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VObFPQc8Cc&feature=related

Urban Soul - Alright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYEo5tLeglI&feature=related

Mr Fingers - Closer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f24sUPE_Ls&feature=related

Mr Fingers - What About This Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CKenI4srLE&feature=related

Mr Fingers - Can You Feel It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFuujExs03A&feature=related

Nomad - [[I wanna give you) Devotion [Soul mix]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXupnGQ7yto&feature=related

Rich In Paradise - Fbi Project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kanL_NqGNk0&feature=related

Robert Owens - Bring Down The Walls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeYYG_2kYEs&feature=related

Ralphi Rosario - You Used To Hold Me [[Kenny's Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJPwhdS25j4&feature=related

Fast Eddie - Acid Thunder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5cChIYHXXQ&feature=related

[marv2]

Good selection Juice! One of my earliest favorite "House Music" jams was "Din Daa Daa" by George Krantz! Oh those party nights in Philly! LOL!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4vXbscw7-8

[marv2]

We can't talk House Music without mentioning the legendary Ten City's "That's The Way Love Is"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-qxPKViHsw&feature=related

[skooldem1]

Aww Marv- you done set it off now. For weeks I have been thinking about starting a thread about Ten City. I still may do this when I get off work. Love their work. Their music reminds me of my years NYC.

[skooldem1]

Juice- excellent picks.

[marv2]

Aww Marv- you done set it off now. For weeks I have been thinking about starting a thread about Ten City. I still may do this when I get off work. Love their work. Their music reminds me of my years NYC.

Let's go bro! We use to JAMM to Ten City in the 1988-90 era! LOL!!! Dont forget Inner City either!

[skooldem1]

1986-1990 were some of the best years of my young party life. Lawd.

[arrr&bee]

Hey,i got plenty of music in my house!!

[marv2]

Yeah JAI, but do you got this.............Steve "Silk" Hurley "Jack Your Body"...... Oh my nights at The Palladium in NYC!!!! LOL!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQcg-dRg5h4

[marv2]

Now try sitting still to this.......I dare you! LOL! Kyze with "Move Jump, Jack Your Body"!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRXlLcDO6pc&feature=related

[arrr&bee]

yeah jai, but do you got this.............steve "silk" hurley "jack your body"...... Oh my nights at the palladium in nyc!!!! Lol!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqcg-drg5h4haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,i may have some of that stuff in here somewhere,so that's what they call house music??ok cool!

[juicefree20]

Marv & Skooldem:

Thank you.

I know that this music isn't considered to be 'real' music by many, but it damn sure grooves.

In it's own way, some House Music gave a nod to Soul Music & many songs continued in the tradition of trying to give a message in the music. Some of it was just for grooving & while much of it gave little consideration to orchestration, song structure, it wasn't necessarily designed to do so.

Just as much of Disco Music wasn't meant for that purpose.

It was music made by folks who couldn't afford expensive B-3's & recording equipment, who wanted to express themselves. Most of it wasn't created with harmony or any of that in mind, it was just meant to be music that you could go out, throw away your cares & just groove to.

I'm glad that I grew up in a time when music was going through various permutations & glad that I was young enough where I could appreciate all of them for what they were. I'm glad that I was young enough that I could appreciate the R&B that was being made when I was 5, appreciate the change to Soul Music, then Funk, to Disco, to Rap, to House Music, to some of today's R&B.

None of us exists in a vacuum & I never understood how there could be people who can't find even a few songs or recent vintage that's moved them. Granted, I don't like everything that's been made & I'll always believe that my youth in the 60s & 70s produced the greatest music ever. With that said, there's been a whole lot of damn good music that's come along from the 80s forward.

Perhaps it's because as a James Brown fanatic, while prizing melody & harmony, I really appreciate the rhythm & groove. While many of today's music may be lacking in melody, harmony & even basic song structure, it sure makes up for those deficiencies in groove. How anyone can hear songs like the remixes of 'Downtown' by SWV, 'Where You Are' by Rashaan Patterson, or even 'I Don't Need It' by Jamie Foxx & not bob their head or get their feet moving a little, is something that I don't understand because those songs GROOVE.

Likewise with House Music.

I'm going to go through my records & find some more of these cuts. But what I hope to do is to post less of the more obvious hits & post some that may have slipped through the cracks for most people.

[marv2]

Juice, it was REAL when we use to party to it at "The Red Parrott"! LOL! Remember?

[juicefree20]

Marv,

Back then I was too busy spinning & never got to party anywhere else other than where I was playing.

But I sure know a whole lot of people who hung out at The Roxy, Leviticus, Bond International, Lola's, Red Parrott, The Loft, The Shelter & a whole lot of other spots.

[juicefree20]

Then, how about these...

I love this one, the baseline, the hats & the keys are hypnotic...DEEEEEP underground...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuJTHuawmkI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuJTHuawmkI&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2DHptnQbCU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2DHptnQbCU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jh28Csz7N0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jh28Csz7N0&feature=related

I knew him as MC Sweetie Gee when I was DJ at The Jamaica Rollerdome & he used to rap there. He became lead singer of Cultural Vibe & a few years later, Mr. William Glenn Toby gave us this classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN9DxInCwPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN9DxInCwPc

Believe it or not, I was never crazy about this one, but it's still considered to be a classic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stHDe3Des0A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stHDe3Des0A&feature=related

Be back with more. Gotta post these before I get logged off!

[ms_m]

I've always liked "house" Juice.

It's a shame some people get older and get their snob on.

Dancing has always been great exercise and back in my neighborhood, if it made you move, it made you groove!

BTW, I heard you mentioned the upcoming CD. Ronnie Mac says thank you!!!!

Me too.:cool:

[marv2]

Marv,

Back then I was too busy spinning & never got to party anywhere else other than where I was playing.

But I sure know a whole lot of people who hung out at The Roxy, Leviticus, Bond International, Lola's, Red Parrott, The Loft, The Shelter & a whole lot of other spots.

I hear you Juice, but at least you were apart of the life. I've to all but Lola's and Bond International. I can throw in Nells, Mars, Limelight, Tunnel, so many othesr. I'd have to go to the photo albums to really refresh my memory. I just know if it was hot and it was happening.......I was there! LOL!!!!

[marv2]

Master C&J! Yeah! Now that's what I'm talking about Juice! 3'O Clock in the morning and we'd be at da club..........LOL! Reminds me of downstairs at "the Silver Shadow" on W. 57th!

[juicefree20]

Ms M:

Quiet as it's kept, a whole lot of people liked Disco too & I'm not even finished with that thread yet!

When I think of some of the response that I've read over the years, one scene comes to my mind...

A few years ago, I was at a Disco show. The audience looked like it could've been extras for a casting call for 'Saturday Night Fever' or 'Goodfellas' & they danced to all of the Disco artists. But when The Sugarhill Gang got onstage & did 'Rappers Delight', those folks went beserk. Those women ran onstage & 60 year-old men were dancing like it was 1975 again.

Now I know damn good & well that they weren't listening to Rap music in 1979 & likely hated it.

OR DID THEY REALLY!?!?

Re. Ronnie, no problem at all! The music is damn good & I hope that folks who are into Smooth Jazz will give it a serious listen.

[juicefree20]

Marv...

Now how did I forget to mention The Shadow or The Limelight?

And of all places, how did I leave off The Paradise Garage?

It wasn't my kind of spot, but it was sure popular as hell!

I'll be back with some more cuts & though I'd like to do it, I'm going to leave Ten City to you & Skooldem.

[juicefree20]

Now this isn't the greatest House cut of all time, but it's one of my favorites. The way that this song builds...The intro...those pads, the percussion & that bassline...MAN, THAT BASS LINE...this jam was HOTTT!!!
Madonna - Vogue [[Bette Davis Dub)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsOUgFWrWDw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsOUgFWrWDw&feature=related

I absolutely LOVE this one...that bass line & those drums cook, I love the arrangement & Shawn sounds pretty damn good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm26JB3IaWM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm26JB3IaWM

Totally loved this, with it's sample of Rochelle & the overall arrangement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5Fepg_Lh0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5Fepg_Lh0&feature=related

This was absolute HOTNESS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvdJihge-Uk&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvdJihge-Uk&feature=fvst

My Girl is WAILING here!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yQGIIvhJEo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yQGIIvhJEo&feature=related
A Dub Version...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAQItHSXuHI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAQItHSXuHI&feature=related

Listen to those keys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7i6B4t5GEQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7i6B4t5GEQ&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2EMErSghI8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2EMErSghI8&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqTecTuD_jc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqTecTuD_jc&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHV2siBeAAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHV2siBeAAM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGC9xEUj6d0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGC9xEUj6d0

This record was CRAZY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2GZ1u01zB0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2GZ1u01zB0&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQU5RQOus18&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQU5RQOus18&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqLmmM_sXH8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqLmmM_sXH8&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la85Rx01Dao&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la85Rx01Dao&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv6OZblW6Oc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv6OZblW6Oc&feature=related

Here's another House classic that I never much cared for...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKeCu-mMBvc&feature=related

You know...we could be here for awhile & as I said, I'm not finished with that Disco thread at all! Just getting my list together & trying to get some less obvious songs into the mix!

[ms_m]

Truth be told Juice, I have never been a Rapper's Delight Fan. The closest thing to rap I was into back then was "Word Up." Now THAT was the jam. Oh and the Last Poets...hahahahaha

Ironically he's putting the jazz CD on hold for now and going with the other. At least that's where he is this week.:eek:

[daddyacey]

"Do It Properly" --2 Puerto Ricans ,A Blackman And A Dominican
"Move Your Body"--Marshall Jefferson
"Jack Your Body"-- J.M. Silk
"Communicate"--Full House
"Devotion"--Ten City
"Thats The Way Love Is"--Ten City

[roger]

Hello all ..

Well to my mind "House Music" [[ and its close relatives "Garage" and Techno" ) was a late '80s and early '90s update of, or rebranding of, what in the early '80s had been called "Dance Music" and what in the mid and late '70s had been called "Disco Music".

Rippling Rhythms, Playful strings and synths and sometimes some very soulful vocals.. always a good combination ..

And when it was done well it was G.G.GREAT!!!!

Loved TEN CITY, MR FINGERS, MARSHALL JEFFERSON etc. etc.

Here are some of my favourites from that era that don't seem to have been mentioned so far.

1 : SHALOR - "I'm In Love"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFPkVHGd3M

2 :- JOE SMOOTH - "Cant Fake The Feeling" .. Off his "Promised Land" L.P. and featuring the vocals of RENEE MOHANNON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xscryQGXslQ

3 :- GUY COSTLEY : "Somebody Here" ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOkjiilfpQA

4 : FRANKIE KNUCKLES :- "The Whistle Song"

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1htoy_frankie-knuckles-the-whistle-song_music

5 : ADEVA :- "Respect" .. inventive update of the old OTIS REDDING/ARETHA FRANKLIN classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGJM9L85cwQ

6 : DHAR BRAXTON :- "Jump Back [[ Set Me Free )"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLTAmHUWpX4

7 : GARY VONQUEST :- "Victim Of Love"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCyzEaN15Lc

Enjoy ..

Roger

[roger]

Hey Juice ..

I've been working my way through some of those recommendations of yours in the first post on the thread and that "Tonite" track by THOSE GUYS seems to owe a lot to this little classic from the House era ..

STEPHANIE MILLS :- "Looking For Mr Right" ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JmEntMx17o&feature=related

Which in turn influenced this tune a few years later ..

D-INFLUENCE - "Good Lover" ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjwxdVCc-g

The D-INFLUENCE track may veer a bit away from "House" into a more Jazzy vibe .. so to get back in the groove .. here is one that was big in London ..

RAZE - "Jack The Groove"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wstksdQFMkI

And the one that really kicked off the whole "House" thing in Britain ..

HOUSE MASTER BOYZ AND THE RUDE BOYS OF HOUSE : "House Nation".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnERa69atgA


Roger

[cozmic]

2 classics from which i understood they've been inspirational for the house movement :cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCMX6JJA9Dg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCfw_0Zx6cg

[roger]

Cozmic ..

I would imaging this one from 1978 was very influential ..

SYLVESTER :- "You Make Me Feel Mighty Real" ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG2ixYJ79iE

Compare it with this 1997 solo effort from the one time singer in TEN CITY ..

BYRON STINGILY :- "Get Up Everybody"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuE_jqRj08g

It was on his C.D. "The Purist" .. they could almost be from the same session ..

And as if to prove the point Byron's C.D. also had his take on "You Make Me Feel Mighty Real" ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzL3OPieyyk&feature=fvsr

:)

Roger

[glencro]

Aww Marv- you done set it off now. For weeks I have been thinking about starting a thread about Ten City. I still may do this when I get off work. Love their work. Their music reminds me of my years NYC.

Can't forget the Ten City gems "Devotion" & the Eddie Kendricks remake of "Goin Up In Smoke" ...you all have really started sumthin

[cozmic]

Great examples Roger and dynamite tracks !
The remastered audio of Sylvester's video sounds excellent, and imagine if Syl and Byron would've done a duet. :o

[glencro]

I am loving this post coming from a former house head. Getting ready to shine up my dancing shoes. Talk about a trip down memory lane. Remember this SADE classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWYnCX5rTac&feature=related

[glencro]

Probably my all time favorite house track ...Barbara Tucker DEEP DOWN INSIDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pol807RkijU
Her other gems "Beautiful People" & "I Get Lifted" were not to be slept on either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_0b37BCkYQ

[glencro]

MELI'SA MORGAN turned the dance floor out with this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df0rlvjxl_A

[marv2]

Ok Glencro, as long as you and everyone remembers to do like Mike Dunn says and "Dance You Mutha!" LOL!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IY1WPUvO8

[marv2]

What were the key ingredients of "House Music"? I'll start off by saying great percussion, piano licks and a catchy hook. Can someone add to this?

[juicefree20]

Ms M:

Yes, we talked about the situation & I'm still looking forward to it!

[juicefree20]

Daddy, Cosmic, Glencro & Roger:

Thank you for joining in with your contributions. I think that it's interesting to see how House Music was experienced on both sides of the pond. I like these choices & as I said, we could be here for a little while with this. I look forward to seeing what you guys come up with next. I'm going to try to come up with songs that I think most people will be unfamiliar with.

Roger:

Indeed the influences come from so many sources & there are tracks which certainly influenced House & you can hear the connection.

[juicefree20]

Roger & Marv:

It's interesting that you both spoke about the ingredients of House Music, as it fits perfectly with an observation that came to me last night.

Now check this out...

I won't give you the name of the song because I don't want you to look at the name & form any conclusions. But speed up this tempo, eliminate the guitars & horns, add some piano & tell me what have you got...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiEr7eNp8B4

Sounds like House Music to me. A slower groove, but if you listen closely, the connection can be heard.

[destruction]

DJ Pope, Oji, Teddy Douglas/Basement Boys, DJ Spen, Crystal Waters and Ultra Nate are the names I remember from the Bmore House scene..... and my boy ScottyB. Some of it morphed into Bmore Club.

[juicefree20]

On to the Evolutionary stage...Some of the early House tracks via Chi-Town & Trax Records & beyond...

STEVE SILK HURLEY - I DON'T KNOW 1985

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBGIg6hE4Y&feature=related

Marshall Jefferson as "Virgo" - Go Wild Rhythm Trax [[A-1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26geYv558cY&feature=related

Marshall Jefferson as "Virgo" - Mechanically Replayed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjokDJJKtc&feature=related

Karen Young - Hot For You [[Virgo Mechanically Replayed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTuwBvDZdIk&feature=related

Chip E - Like This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zedJ3vIxmzY&feature=related

Adonis - No Way Back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZj9oQ-5aaY&feature=related

BAM BAM - GIVE IT TO ME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtN92-en4Xk&feature=related

Disco-D - Beat It

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3n3_m_RM6Q&feature=related

Cleavage - Barah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL8ZBmJkqHw

The Rude Boy Farley Keith - Give Your Self To Me [[Instr.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EePrpOzFwDo&feature=related

Liz Torres - Can't Get Enough

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30N4Uc5iWYg

Kevin Irving - Ride The Rhythm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sa6EHfzJdU

JM Silk - Music Is The Key

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCO_0TmhYFQ&playnext=1&list=PLC900D4AEC5384A47

Steve Silk Hurley- Jack Your Body

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f01MZPmI5Fo&feature=related

Tramaine Hawkins - Fall Down [[Spirit Of Love)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufiv6tGgqwo&feature=related

[juicefree20]

Des:

I remember Spen. If I remember correctly, he made 'Clappin' The Pella' & 'Beat This', which got a lot of play here around 86 or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Ln-92-tYE

[juicefree20]

More early classics...

Serious Intention - You Don't Know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps1IbMGQHjI

Serious Intention - Serious [[Dub Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IybsVYyUoS0&feature=related

Colonel Abrams - Music is the Answer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIKgMxCeXKk

COLONEL ABRAMS - I'm Not Gonna Let

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oExw2k2Tm5o&feature=related

Colonel Abrams - Trapped

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXN2NSzRAts&feature=related

Colonel Abrams - Speculation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VutHETzf2vU

Clausell - Don't Let It Be Crack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Bs_dqFvDY

Blaze - What'cha Gonna Do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEpF3VJL2d0&feature=related

Blaze - If You Should Need A Friend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFmMCdrICnQ&feature=related

Blaze - Can't win For Losin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Uq-SxqD-Y

J.M. SILK - I CAN'T TURN AROUND

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21lYxX5t2w8&feature=related

LNR - Work It To The Bone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8X6KpCBgeg&feature=related

Technically, not a House cut, but this import got a lot of play alongside the early House cuts...
Starflight - Dance to the Beat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl_ObrsKSUA&feature=related

[cozmic]

Thanks for your shout out Juice ! :cool:

A cat which caught my attention some years ago was Simon Grey.
He mixes some of his synth-skills with house beats and remixed for different artists as well.


Simon Grey - "Together" [[featuring Robbie)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZmcG1JrmRA&playnext=1&list=PL6E2A5F76F681264E

Miguel Migs - "Those Things" [[Simon Grey Phase II Vocal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJmHFODmnIY

Joey Negro And The Sunburst Band - "We Can Live Forever" [[Simon Grey Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ome_SyX8934

Layers Of Sound featuring Melissa D - "Thinking Of You" [[Simon Grey Nu Salsa Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lz6LkxIC9M

Kings of Tomorrow featuring Haze - "Thru" [[Simon Grey Vocal Rework)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBtqR49zlo


This following one is more in the direction of breakbeat, but the synths are insane :

Reel People featuring Jag - "Second Guess" [[Simon Grey Research Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phn9yeey6v4




Other stuff which i bought a few years ago :

Tiefschwarz featuring Joy - "Music" [[Matty's Soulfower Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXH2I2z0xUg


Stephanie Mills & Masters At Work - "Latin Lover" [[12" Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2EgZqSPFs


Pepe Braddock - "18 Carats" [[sample of L.A. Boppers' "Wrap it up" [[1982))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rmb_DKOO94


Shaun Escoffery - "Space Rider" [[Dj Spinna Remix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1CBgxVzrgE



Another breakbeat jam with mad beats, synths and other instrumentation

New Sector Movements - "Two Sides" [[featuring Eska)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgkBujXEVgs

[daddyacey]

Thanks for the shout out Juice. Yeah I think we will be on this subject for a while. Let me just add a little fire to this subject and the question of just what is House Music?
Well from my point of view House Music was concieved during the so called Disco era ,at the point where clubs started to pop up everywhere and just at the point where the serious Dancers and D.J.'s became aware of the fadism and commercialism that began to get associated with the party scene here in New York. The true Dancers and D.J.'s did not party to material that had a "classification" such as "Disco". The Loft and Paradise Garage and clubs of that stature originally offered two key elements of the "Party Scene" prior to the Disco connotation , which were,
1) the various genre of music played ,which was multi genred but [[and very importantly) danceable,
2) and played over an audiophile quality system.
The template of Mancuso's Loft and eventually The Garage ,was the basis of the "Disco" fad IMO , and the gimmicks of the waiting on lines to get into clubs ,the being seen in this club or that club ,the dress and even the subsequent making of specific "Disco" music ,were not what the original intent of what true Dance Party patrons and D.J.'s started out with.
"House" was created from the need to separate the worlds of the "Studio 54" type club from the original party atmosphere. "54" was a "DISCO" , the Garage was a Dance Club.
There was the need for purist Dance patrons to have that raw and true musical material that didn't have that "Disco" infused 120-130 bpm syrupy string stuff that was pushed by this new industry where the music was not only played in the "Discos",but had also found its way played on commercial radio. D.J.'s such as Larry Levan and Walter Gibbons had begun to do Remixes for the commercial market but were at heart still Dance Music D.J.'s and had started to create tracks that were unique to their personal playlist ,that catered to that pure Dance audience ,that came to Dance gawdamit, not be seen or be hip. Tracks meant to kick you in the ass tri amped at 5000 watts. Things that you would hear only them play. "House music". Raw Dance tracks like 'The N.Y.C. Peech Boys' ,"Don't make Me Wait" ,"Loose Joints" "Is It All Over My Face" and The Strikers "Body Music" which you could only hear him play for months before they were released ,and were too raw for "Disco" radio play. A place where the big commercial artists could not go. "House music" is the only spinoff of R&B/ Funk that has not been exploited by any of the major record companies ,but restricted to small local companies and independents.
" House" was back to basic ,dance your ass off music ,straight up ,no gimmicks ,originated here in N.Y. and developed further in Chicago by Jefferson and Hurley. It also remains to this day a strong underground genre.

[glencro]

Gotta check out Kenny Bobien, the Godfather of gospel house. He has a Sylvester,/Byron Stingly sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTaRqq1bN1g

[roger]

Hello again all ..

Its been interesting reading the points made about the origins of "House Music" both here on the forum and on the links posted to You-Tube, especially the debate about whether it originated in Chicago or NYC.

Well, from a British perspective, around 1987 it was generally understood here that if it came from Chicago it was "House" and if it came from New York/New Jersey it was "Garage", and if it came from Detroit it was "Techno". Now, maybe that was just us Brits trying to over-analyse things, as essentially it was the same style of music and maybe those distinctions made no sense from a U.S. perspective.

However, if I think about it, I first heard the term "Garage" used to describe NYC/NJ dance music around 1982/3 .. someone had come up with the term to describe a variety of Soulful Dance music that was being made based around synthesised drums and strings. And we were told that the name "Garage" had been taken from an NYC nightclub called "The Paradise Garage", where apparently such music was popular. Tunes that spring to mind that I associated with the sound were such tracks as "Touch Me" by FONDA RAE, "Reach Up" by TONY LEE, "Nothing Going On But the Rent" by GWEN GUTHRIE and "You Ain't Really Down" by STATUS FOUR, all of which were reasonably successful in Britain.

These "Garage" tunes had a different approach to the Mellow-Funk sounds of [[say) FATBACK or KOOL & THE GANG which used "real" instruments [[ as did mainstream acts like MICHAEL JACKSON or GEORGE BENSON ) and the "Garage" tunes also differed from the Electro/Hip-Hop tunes that were popular at the time .. "Hip Hop Be Bop" by MAN PARRISH, "Al Naafish" by HASHIM etc. which were electronic riffs built around somewhat disjointed, juddering basslines.

The "Garage" tunes were built around a rippling repetative groove, and unlike "Rap" were sung .. not "rapped".

In 1983/4 Britain, all of these R&B based musical styles .. Electro/Hip-Hop/Garage/Funk/Soul .. tended to be lumped together as "Dance Music".

The term "House" came into prominance in Britain around 1986, named I think after a Chicago nightclub called "The Warehouse" or something similar .. input from Chicage SDF members would be useful here .. and what the Chicage artists seemed to be producing was a faster form of what had been known as "Garage", with relentless rhythms that were a throwback to the "Disco" tunes of 1977/8/9.

I know I posted earlier that the big breakthrough in Britain was "House Nation", but the first "House" tune that was actually a huge hit was a few months before that .. "Jack Your Body" by STEVE "SILK" HURLEY which gained the U.K. "Pop" number one spot early in 1987. Mind you, as it didn't contain the word "House" in the title it was easy to consider it to be just another "Dance" tune.

By 1988/89 the term "House" was in common usage in Britain to describe the modern up-tempo R&B based dance music, and sub-genres started to be perceived .. "Acid House" for the more electronic instrumental music, and "Soulful House" for the vocal varieties. No prizes for guessing which I preferred. The term "Garage" seemed to have faded away, though it made a return in the '90s, and the records coming out of NYC/NJ had speeded in tempo to match the sounds coming out of Chicago anyway.

Anyway enough of all this pontification .. here are a few more goodies ..


1 : KRISS COLEMAN .. "Shine" .. a very mellow LARRY HEARD production ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDuB4VXJ-I

2 : MICHAEL WATFORD .. "Holding On" .. Soulful House!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34DlKRaKA0A

3 : BLAZE .. "So Special" .. More Soulful House!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzmP_fJ_5vM

4 : ALY-US .. "Follow Me" .. This seemed to be around for AGES!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3cfGzuICzA

5 : THE ROCK POSSE WITH FONDA RAE .. "Do You Want My Love" .. great song!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvMUbIwl1gU


And talking of those musical influences .. this one isn't too far removed from early '80s "Electro" ..


6 : NITRO DELUXE .. "This Brutal House" ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_BbCoVZawY


And this one isn't too far removed from late '70s "Disco" ..


7 : RICHARD ROGERS .. "Can't Stop Loving You".. Instrumental Version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnZJ0itcma0&feature=related

Roger

[GeeTee(HPK)]

Jucie, you are the man ! :) I'm glad you started a thread about House Music. Being a "old head" from the House Music era, the music is still going on in Chicago. We still bang the classics and we even have a huge annual pincic in the summertime.

I remember the House mixes being played live on the air on WBMX 102.7 FM. [[ I wish I still had some of the legendary mixes from the Hot Mix 5 DJs on cassette) :[[

Every now and then, I may throw in a classic house song or two on my monthly dusties show on 'HPK. Plus our station have a weekly show that plays House music on Sunday nights. [[go to our website and check our program guide http://whpk.org)

I'll add a few of my favorites sometime tomorrow,when I have some time.

[juicefree20]

Cozmic:

And a well-deserved shout-out, my friend! Thank you for adding your perspective, experiences & choices to this thread! Much of what you've posted are songs that I am unfamiliar with & so, the knowledge grows. Thank you again!

Daddy:

As a fellow New Yorker, I knew that you'd remember a lot of my choices & I also knew that you'd definitely know & had experienced the best of the House Music era.

I agree with what you're saying about a lot of the early 80's Dance Music. I still remember when I got my copy of 'Don't Make Me Wait' & that off-the-hook a capella! That was as far from the Disco experience as could be & the records of that incoming era definitely gave Dance Music a totally different feel from the Disco Era.

Once again, the times were a'changin' & once again, we were witness to those changing times!

Roger:

Thank you for adding your selections & damned if Kris Coleman & 'Shine' wasn't next on my list :)

GeeTee:

Thank you my brother, it's a pleasure to revisit the music. Though we all love Soul Music, I know that most of us were also open to the various musical evolutions as time marched on. I'm looking forward to seeing some of your choice material from Chi-Town :)

I read the writings of people from different regions whom seem more interested in debating about whom did what, rather than engaging in discussions which simply relate the similarities of our various experiences.

Indeed, one can't discuss house Music without giving the proper respect to Chicago & folks like Silk, Marshall J, The Spen, Larry Heard aka. Mr. Fingers, Farley 'Jackmaster' Funk, Ron Hardy, Lil Louis, Chip-E, Jesse Saunders & Trax Records & DJ International. Out in Detroit, there was Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson [[who formed Inner City & in only recently I learned that his sister is a friend of mine here in Brooklyn) & the beginnings of Techno & quite interestingly, it was one of our beloved forumers, the late Ron Murphy, who had a BIG hand in the Detroit Techno scene. These were names that were well-known in the N.Y. Club scene at that time.

Likewise, one must also give a fair nod to the N.Y.C. House scene that also helped to feed the baby & helped it to grow

This is why I find it interesting to read how you experienced the movement in Britain. Many times, some of us fall into the trap of thinking that only our experiences were valid & 'original'. But its a big world out there & it's interesting to read of your experiences during that era.

We share...we learn...we grow!

[juicefree20]

I'm noticing that my pages are loading a bit slowly, so I'll only add the links & not embed them here.

While most people think of House/Dance Music as being frenetic, it offered some nice slices of downtempo music, as well...

Ten City - One Kiss Will Make It Better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWcUvLRUcgc

The Chimes - 1, 2, 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16EuVMVQzR4

Inner City - What'cha Gonna Do With My Lovin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llBdPk-94p4&feature=related
The Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7qdinx_kPM

Innocence - Let's Push It [[Big Beat Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvv9kHFQvPw&feature=related

as well as 'Shine' by Kriss Coleman, as already posted by Roger!

[juicefree20]

Now HERE are some of my VERY favorites...

Sax - Give Yourself To Me [[HOTTT!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0_f8t78qM

Open House Fea. Pace - seven Day Weekend [[This Jam was HOT!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv07G8KZIG4

Chrome - Finger Trip Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t0n5n9U0mo

CHANELLE - ONE MAN [[One Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLZkyew71A&feature=related

Bang The Party - Release Your Body
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P542fZigNDo&feature=related

Bang The Party - Bang Bang You're Mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCB-wpSr42c&feature=related

Mr. Fingers - A Path
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9hNFtj1lRM

Fingers Inc Fea. Robert Owens - Never No More Lonely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AexFISvKnyM&feature=related

Cookie Watkins - I'm Attracted To You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNLiBlv-_DQ&feature=related

Funk Deluxe - I Surrender [[12'' Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjw2qHySBEg&feature=related

Karen Anderson - Thank You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXTGhneH20I

Gate-Ah - The Shelter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNSpgZGcDr4

The It - Rainforest serenade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC19YbZTqvo

Frankie Knuckles Fea. Lisa Michaelis - Rain Falls [[One of 3 great mixes on the 12'')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzyAoAC8lMU

Kraze - The Party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxQQ04kN6M4&feature=related

Sagat - Funk Dat [[Why Is It?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acTKlUf-0yU

Jellybean - Spillin' The Beans [[Les Bean Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMSlnI5SW9Q

Loleatta Holloway - Strong Enough [[Ultimate Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik49xjxUVI4&feature=related

D-Influence - No Illusions [[Special Disco Edit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKxXZicnhXE

[cozmic]

Cozmic:

And a well-deserved shout-out, my friend! Thank you for adding your perspective, experiences & choices to this thread! Much of what you've posted are songs that I am unfamiliar with & so, the knowledge grows. Thank you again!
You're welcome man, and thank you too for your appreciation and recommendings !

Jam on !

[roger]

Hello all ..

I've found this clip on You-Tube where some of the legendary House Music producers explain where the sound came from ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=famO6KMm0K4

Roger

[ollie]

Hi everybody, it's a Houseparty.
Very cool Thread Juice. Thanks!
Lot of fun and pleasure this classy house music brings too the listener.
Undoubtly ya'll know your portion of house, and choosed some of the finest.
Kraftwerk had a influence on the developement of the style early on.
And some of the New Wave industrial elements such as
Front 242 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JVjfjgD9P8&feature=related

Nitzer Ebb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-Pm2AqJWw

Check this 1982 peace from ZaZa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHwGTgPOBUc&feature=related

The Normal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5QErPDNcj4&playnext=1&list=PLDEFB34735E250743
DAF [[Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft), or other New Wave bands gave some input as well.
Again cool stuff on here. Here another old housy club hit for ya'll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCHAliA8b4U

[roger]

I'm noticing that my pages are loading a bit slowly, so I'll only add the links & not embed them here.

While most people think of House/Dance Music as being frenetic, it offered some nice slices of downtempo music, as well...

Ten City - One Kiss Will Make It Better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWcUvLRUcgc

The Chimes - 1, 2, 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16EuVMVQzR4

Inner City - What'cha Gonna Do With My Lovin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llBdPk-94p4&feature=related
The Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7qdinx_kPM

Innocence - Let's Push It [[Big Beat Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvv9kHFQvPw&feature=related

as well as 'Shine' by Kriss Coleman, as already posted by Roger!


Hi Juice ..

Its interesting to note that the two of those selections of yours which are British acts .. INNOCENCE .. and .. THE CHIMES .. are acts that very few U.K. Soul/R&B fans would associate them with "House Music".

Which makes me wonder if you would regard SOUL II SOUL as having anything to do with "House Music"?

I'll try to explain ..

Back in the mid/late '80s/early '90s "House" and "Dance Music" was very much part of the U.K. "Pop" music mainstream .. in much the same way that in the U.S. "Motown" was part of the mainstream in the late '60s and "Disco" was in 1977/8.

As I mentioned in a previous post "Jack Your Body" made #1 on the U.K. charts early in 1987 .. the previous year one of the ten biggest selling 45s in the U.K. was "Trapped" by COLONEL ABRAMS.

Here is the good Colonel appearing on Top Of The Pops in 1985.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=915a1F-PTck

If I look at U.S. chart positions "Trapped" made #20 R&B and did nothing on the "Pop" charts. In Britain it spent 23 weeks on the "pop" chart and peaked at #3.

There are A LOT of other examples of this from the 1980s, where relatively obscure [[ in the U.S. ) R&B records sold much better in Britain than in their homeland.

Basically, in Britain we had hardly any of the ridiculous "Anti Disco" backlash that the U.S. experienced in 1979/80 .. indeed I would say that in 1981/2 R&B based Dance Music was more popular in Britain than it had been back during 1977/8.

Consequently, when "House" put in an appearance it quite quickly became part of the mainstream, as a sound it certainly was never really "underground", though most of your selections would mean nothing to the typical U.K. music lover .. some were new to me too!!

And quickly there were U.K./European records being made that followed the lead set by NYC and Chicago.


The following 4 U.K./European efforts were ALL big "Pop" hits [[ Top 3 at least ) in Britain in the "House" era ..

"Pump Up The Jam" .. TECHNOTRONIC .. Belgian Group

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI

"Respectable" .. MEL AND KIM .. #1 U.K. Hit produced by STOCK/AITKEN/WATERMAN from 1987.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPmy2fCuTjs

"Pump Up The Volume" .. M.A.R.R.S. .. Number 1 in Britain in 1987.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B87snXgV7Pg

"Ride On Time" .. BLACK BOX .. really a remix of "Love Sensation" by LOLEATTA HOLLOWAY by an Italian act.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiJ2B8PFjqU


However not all Soul/R&B fans were too pleased by the new development and there was somewhat of a backlash .. with a "Rare Groove" scene emerging that concentrated on exposing little known '70s recordings .. "Funk" and "Steppers" in particular .. a kind of "Antidote" to "House".

SOUL II SOUL grew out of the London "Rare Groove" scene, and both THE CHIMES and INNOCENCE are seen here as part of that same movement.


This is the first INNOCENCE hit .. "Natural Thing" .. it made the U.K. Top 10 .. lovely cool sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6epX28R4tc

And here is the write up on them on Wikipedia ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_[[band)

And this is the big hit THE CHIMES had here .. their version of U.2.s "I Still Havn't Found What I'm Looking For".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-KAnnG_vPc


I think its difficult for U.S. residents to comprehend just how HUGE "House" became in Britain .. the British press labeled the summer of 1988 "The Second Summer Of Love" as a result of the Acid-House craze. The first "Summer of Love" being 1967.

That was after promoters started to organise huge unlicensed parties, either outdoors or in abandoned buildings, playing "House", and sparking off a huge controversy ..

Here is a rather sensationalised BBC news report from 1988 about the "Acid House" phenomenon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgjog28R9_0

And a rather more objective report from ITN's "World In Action".

Part One ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJkTpXonXg&feature=related

Follow the you-tube links to see the whole program ..


Roger

[GeeTee(HPK)]

Alright, here's some House classics that can still turn a party out. Ever though some of these songs were released during the Disco era, they took on a "new life" in the House scene.


The original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Nja6xvYXI


The J-5's version of The Supremes hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R25L3VxPds



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaI5TJYPQUo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbnUiWFx--M


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcIPLq_Hss


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8J94neOh2Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmEDDlbWNdM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unBfb2syL18


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA7NGjpwe_Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vdZjJs_0XQ

Even though these are jazz cuts, they're now adopted by the House music scene


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCY5jhtrp7k


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lOGJQ7XR0M


This is a original funk track,but the House community has turned this into a House song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW08GnKufQ8

I hope you enjoyed these examples of what we still rock in the clubs as House Music. If I can think of any more, I'll add to the list.

[GeeTee(HPK)]

I forgot to mention, a man who brought a lot to House Music. Although he's no longer with us, his mixes are legendary.
Pick up the latest issue of Wax Poetics magazine, there's a nice story on this DJ.

Here's one of his classic mixes of a not so popular Dells song,but he made it a hit on the dance floor.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp2Sfrsq8AA

[marv2]

Ok there are some very good examples here so far. Here is another one from ME! Quest featuring Liz Torres and "Mind Games"!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxO16imB6c&feature=related

[GeeTee(HPK)]

I forgot to add these two James Brown songs on the list,but they are known as House songs. :)


"I'm Satisfied" [[From the "Bodyheat" album,but this song has been remixed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQ8ddWC0Pg


They will speed the tempo up a bit,and sometimes folks will be "slam dancin' [[bumpin' into each other,not in the violence style of punk rock slam dancin' lol)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkeT_okg7o