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Boogiedown
10-25-2018, 12:47 AM
I know this is likely old news to the well-schooled & observant Motowners here, but I just recently took notice of the other-than-Stevie voices that begin singing the opening lines on this record. [[!) And I am quite gobsmacked!
In my defense, in 1973, when YOU ARE THE SUNSHINE OF MY LIFE came out and I was becoming familiar with it, I was listening to it mainly through my AM car radio. Those initial voices , I assumed were simply Stevie [[in typical experimental Stevie fashion) applying some variable inflections with his voice. Sounded well-executed to me, worked fine. Nothing more to contemplate. Did others here make this same mistake??

Likewise in my defense, WHO in the world lets others sing lead lines within a song credited as only them --- let alone the opening ones?? And then, to carry it further, uses two guest vocalists to do so? The possibility never crossed my mind.

I finally caught on to it only recently. The first singer stands out now as less likely being Stevie. But the second singer, a female, still sounds to me like it could be Stevie singing in a higher register. Regardless of intent, a very clever intro Mr. Wonder! I wonder how it came about? Has there ever been an explanation?? A most unusual concept. Quite fun.:cool:

I have also now learned who those two non-credited vocalists are, any of the knowledgeable here care to reveal their identities??:)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wZ_b_uUAdQ

Motown Eddie
10-25-2018, 04:52 AM
They are Jim Gilstrap [[the first lines of the song) & Lani Groves [[the following lines).

marybrewster
10-25-2018, 10:20 AM
If I'm not mistaken Lani recorded a duet album with Darlene Love and Jim sang the theme from "Good Times".

milven
10-25-2018, 11:44 AM
The things we learn here. Amazing.

rovereab
10-25-2018, 12:49 PM
I've always wondered who the artists were - great question!

blackguy69
10-25-2018, 12:55 PM
Not to sound like a jerk but the album lists who did the vocals so it shouldn’t be a surprise

luke
10-25-2018, 01:12 PM
Never knew any of this!

marv2
10-25-2018, 06:10 PM
Jim Gilstrap is best known for this song here. A great memory from my high school days.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNKSOYSP1w

Boogiedown
10-26-2018, 01:31 PM
Jim Gilstrap is best known for this song here. A great memory from my high school days.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNKSOYSP1w

I played that single til the grooves turned to dust!!lol!

I especially liked the instrumental b-side. That song was written by Kenny Nolan , one of Disco Tex' Sex-o-Lettes!

Boogiedown
10-26-2018, 01:42 PM
Not to sound like a jerk but the album lists who did the vocals so it shouldn’t be a surprise

Not being a jerk at all good info!....I didn't buy the LP .

BTW does the LP specifically list Lani Groves soloing on this particular song? There seems to be some ideas on the internet that Stevie wrote this song about back up singer Gloria Barley [[also singing on TALKING BOOK) a couple of years earlier during a time when he happened to be married to Syreeta , so at the time he buried it.

TomatoTom123
10-26-2018, 08:47 PM
I can't quite remember what I thought of this when I first heard/listened to the song. Now I think about it, it does seem odd to have two other people singing the opening lines to your song. I do remember looking it up though; I just assumed Stevie let them sing the intro and thought it worked pretty well, so just left it. :D

marv2
10-27-2018, 03:12 PM
I played that single til the grooves turned to dust!!lol!

I especially liked the instrumental b-side. That song was written by Kenny Nolan , one of Disco Tex' Sex-o-Lettes!

Boogie LOL! I use to hear it all the time in the mornings getting ready for school on CKLW. Disco Tex & the Sex-o-Lettes had a big hit out around the same time as this one by Jim.

Boogiedown
10-28-2018, 12:08 AM
Boogie LOL! I use to hear it all the time in the mornings getting ready for school on CKLW. Disco Tex & the Sex-o-Lettes had a big hit out around the same time as this one by Jim.

yes , both were on same label, Chelsea.

here's the instrumental I dug feat. some nice sax:


https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=bHno7cAwV9k

no wait , my copy was on Roxbury.

Just realized SWING YOUR DADDY was arranged by Gene Page!

marv2
10-28-2018, 09:49 AM
yes , both were on same label, Chelsea.

here's the instrumental I dug feat. some nice sax:


https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=bHno7cAwV9k

no wait , my copy was on Roxbury.

Just realized SWING YOUR DADDY was arranged by Gene Page!


Thank you Boogiedown! I have not heard Part II since back in the day.

Boogiedown
10-29-2018, 03:43 PM
Thank you Boogiedown! I have not heard Part II since back in the day.

you're welcome Marv! same here !!!:eek:

Boogiedown
10-29-2018, 03:55 PM
I can't quite remember what I thought of this when I first heard/listened to the song. Now I think about it, it does seem odd to have two other people singing the opening lines to your song. I do remember looking it up though; I just assumed Stevie let them sing the intro and thought it worked pretty well, so just left it. :D

I hear ya Tom Tom . The "story" here as to how this came about probably isn't nearly as interesting as I'd like it to be.
I think it does say something about the change of dynamics that happens in the studio when the artist is also the producer. I can't imagine an outside producer suggesting to Stevie , "Hey how about we let some unknown sing the opening lines of this single of yours ?"
he'd likely answer , "the hell you say!!":p
But by dinkering around with his own material, Stevie was more able to toy with his options.
By having total control, you stumble on stuff and you can say , "hey I like this!" and you have the power to follow through if you choose to.

marv2
10-29-2018, 06:00 PM
Here on "Ordinary Pain" from the "Songs in the Key of Life" album, Stevie just drops out and Shirley Brewer just takes over:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se0g2f5Ub0A

Boogiedown
10-30-2018, 12:23 PM
Here on "Ordinary Pain" from the "Songs in the Key of Life" album, Stevie just drops out and Shirley Brewer just takes over:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se0g2f5Ub0A

Always liked that sassy part.
But that's always been a strange one to me. Don't know why they're considered the same song??
Maybe because Stevie isn't on it, they attached it to ORDINARY PAIN for legal/credits reasons??

Boogiedown
10-31-2018, 12:08 AM
I can't quite remember what I thought of this when I first heard/listened to the song. Now I think about it, it does seem odd to have two other people singing the opening lines to your song. I do remember looking it up though; I just assumed Stevie let them sing the intro and thought it worked pretty well, so just left it. :D
Or
maybe we can make a story [[ or two) out of this:rolleyes::

From another thread:



. . . Jim Gilstrap has already confirmed that he quit Wonderlove on returning from the UK as Lani Groves [[also a singer in the group) dumped him on their return to NY.

So, now it turns out the two singers Stevie chose, Jim Gilstrap and Lani Groves, were an item!! Just a coincidence then that these two were used to solo on this intimate love song?? hmmm.

Perhaps Stevie had already envisioned this song as a duet , and tried it out with these two.
As a full song, perhaps the duet concept didn't seem to work as well, so Stevie scrapped it. But he liked the sincere interaction between the two enough to leave a brief exchange as an intro before he fully takes over. Maybe even as a nod to their relationship.

There's one theory , ... made up entirely out of whole cloth!!!:p:p but there it is!

144man
11-02-2018, 08:09 PM
Not being a jerk at all good info!....I didn't buy the LP .

BTW does the LP specifically list Lani Groves soloing on this particular song? There seems to be some ideas on the internet that Stevie wrote this song about back up singer Gloria Barley [[also singing on TALKING BOOK) a couple of years earlier during a time when he happened to be married to Syreeta , so at the time he buried it.

I can't help wondering then if the original plan was for Syreeta to sing the intro.

Boogiedown
11-03-2018, 03:28 PM
I can't help wondering then if the original plan was for Syreeta to sing the intro.

But wasn't it already salacious enough that now married Stevie was writing lyrics like this that were inspired by some back-up singer without then having his new bride sing them as if they were written with her in mind !!? ;)
I'll let you float that particular theory 144man!:p

Sotosound
11-03-2018, 04:20 PM
But wasn't it already salacious enough that now married Stevie was writing lyrics like this that were inspired by some back-up singer without then having his new bride sing them as if they were written with her in mind !!? ;)
I'll let you float that particular theory 144man!:p

I’d understood that the sunshine of Stevie’s life was Mother Earth...

144man
11-03-2018, 07:30 PM
But wasn't it already salacious enough that now married Stevie was writing lyrics like this that were inspired by some back-up singer without then having his new bride sing them as if they were written with her in mind !!? ;)
I'll let you float that particular theory 144man!:p

The song was published in October 1972 giving a plausible time-frame for it to have indeed been inspired by Syreeta.

Boogiedown
11-03-2018, 10:28 PM
I’d understood that the sunshine of Stevie’s life was Mother Earth...

no
Mother Earth was his boogie on reggae woman

Boogiedown
11-04-2018, 01:22 AM
The song was published in October 1972 giving a plausible time-frame for it to have indeed been inspired by Syreeta.

That would be the most desirable scenario and the most likely.:)

BUT here and there on the internet there can be found a notion that Gloria Barley plays a hand. And according to the TALKING BOOK credits, for some reason she comes to the studio to perform on this song and this song only. [[And btw, not Syreeta)
For fans of plots involving collusion, maybe there's a bit of a twist to this at this point [[to be continued as time permits):