Who Needs an Unsung episode?

[Optimal Saint]

First post but Long time lurker here.

Who do you think needs an unsung episode?

I have many candidates:

There are some big names here but if The O'jays, Spinners, both lead singers of the Temptations and Otis Redding are Unsung then anyone could be


Joe Simon
Jr Walker & the All Stars
War
Joe Tex
Mandrill
Osibisa

Main Ingredient
Paul Kelly
Meters
Syl Johnson
New Birth
Booker T & the MGs
Ann Peeples
OV Wright
Solomon Burke
Slave

Chairmen of the Board [[or Invictus-Hot Wax as a whole, labels owned by HDH after they left Motown, acts include the Chairmen, Freda Payne, Honey Cone, Flaming Ember)

Archie Bell and the Drells
LaBelle/Patti Labelle
Rufus/Chaka Khan
Johnny "Guitar" Watson
Average White Band
Post Diana Supremes
Post Smokey Miracles
Post Motown Four Tops
Willie Hutch
Johnny Bristol
The Trammps
Tony! Tone! Toni!
Curtis Mayfield
Betty Wright
Bettye Lavette
Rufus Thomas
Carla Thomas
Irma Thomas
Sam & Dave
Candi Staton
Clarence Carter

If we're doing Unsung Hollywood:

227
Amen
The Wiz
Five Heartbeats/Robert Townsend
Leon
Good Times
Frank's Place/Tim Reid

[Motown Eddie]

Amen! I'd watch any of the many artists & actors that you listed on Unsung/Unsung Hollywood. If I may add a few to the list;

Brenda Holloway
Average White Band
Kim Weston
Mable John

and on Unsung Hollywood;
the making of Shaft
the making of Superfly
the making of The White Shadow.

[lucky2012]

I vote for and would watch:
Jr. Walker & the All-Stars
Brenda Holloway
Kim Weston
Johnny Bristol

Invictus/Hot Wax

Booker T & the MGs
Ann Peebles
Sam & Dave
Joe Simon

Candi Staton
Carla Thomas
Irma Thomas
Betty Wright
The Trammps

Can't believe some would be considered Unsung:

Chaka Khan
Patti Labelle
Curtis Mayfield
Post Diana Supremes

[TomatoTom123]

Even seeing some of these names on a list makes me happy, just to know that other people enjoy their music as much as me. :)

[alexstassi]

I really wanna see The Dramatics and Chi-lites episodes.... hard to catch these living in the UK

Tony Toni Tone
Undisputed Truth
Leroy Hutson

[alexstassi]

The UK group "The Real Thing" are releasing a documentary soon... that would be good to watch

[Optimal Saint]

The UK group "The Real Thing" are releasing a documentary soon... that would be good to watch

Thats great. Do you know if it will be on tv or DVD?

i know can you feel the force is their big hit but my fave song of theirs is raining through my sunshine

[Optimal Saint]

Can't believe some would be considered Unsung:

Chaka Khan
Patti Labelle
Curtis Mayfield
Post Diana Supremes

i think that curtis mayfield is arguably the biggest name on my list but if they can do an Isaac Hayes episode they can do Curtis

i disagree on the post Diana supremes.

If you were to talk to 100 random people and ask about the supremes how many would mention anything post Diana?

2? 5?

i think that they are absolutely unsung

I'll also add William Bell, Eddie Floyd, graham central station, Gene Chandler and King Curtis

Joe Simon and Jr. Walker are my two biggest wants

I'll also add a controversial unsung Hollywood candidate:

Stepin Fetchit

i can't remember the name of it but a few years ago I saw a play about Stepin Fetchit and Muhammad Ali [[Gordon from sesame street played fetchit)

it was fascinating and afterwards I read a bit more on him.

Definitely feel he's worthy on an unsung

[lucky2012]

i think that curtis mayfield is arguably the biggest name on my list but if they can do an Isaac Hayes episode they can do Curtis
Absolutely right! Maybe one on the Impressions, while they're at it.


i disagree on the post Diana supremes.

If you were to talk to 100 random people and ask about the supremes how many would mention anything post Diana?
I guess as time goes on the post Diana Supremes will be remembered less. Stoned Love was a big hit, but unfortunately, some think it's a Diana Ross lead vocal. :[[

[glencro]

Sister Sledge
The Jones Girls
Mary Jane Girls
Tony Toni Tone
Incognito
The Hawkins Family
The Caravans
Rahsaan Patterson
High Inergy
O'Bryan
Perri

[alexstassi]

Thats great. Do you know if it will be on tv or DVD?

i know can you feel the force is their big hit but my fave song of theirs is raining through my sunshine

Not sure... they posted a screenshot on instagram.
Their biggest uk hit was You to me are everything... and raining through my sunshine is my favourite too...

[marv2]

Sister Sledge
The Jones Girls
Mary Jane Girls
Tony Toni Tone
Incognito
The Hawkins Family
The Caravans
Rahsaan Patterson
High Inergy
O'Bryan
Perri

Definitely Perri and the Jones Girls. I would add Carl Carlton.

[JimBagley]

Love all of your suggestions. Would like to add:
Eddie Holman.
The Velvelettes.
Love Unlimited.
Ronnie Walker.
Jean Carne.
Jackie Moore.
Dee Dee Sharp.
The Orlons.
The Tymes.
Dennis Edwards.
The Dells [[every person in the world needs to know their story).
Post Teddy Blue Notes including solo David Ebo.

[lockhartgary]

My additions:
Bloodstone
Brenda and the Tabulations

[Ngroove]

The Contours
Major Lance
Barbara Mason
Sam & Dave
Tyrone Davis
Ben Vereen
Irene Cara
Carrie Lucas
Dynasty
S.O.S. Band
The Deele
Surface
Gwen Guthrie
Jermaine Stewart
Glenn Jones
Freestyle [[Genre)

And, under "since Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, James Brown, Eartha Kitt, Sammy Davis Jr. got an episode" clause:

Jackie Wilson
Sherman Hemsley

[splanky]

I totally agree with any mention of two acts already mentioned on this thread:
Brenda and the Tabulations and New Birth. I might be interested in a couple pages on some
of the others but as far as Brenda and New Birth I want a book...Backtracking a sec,
I'd add Jean Carne but as her story is still unfolding in this time, she and her ex Doug
reconciled a couple of years ago, so I doubt Unsung would dare to write a tale still
being told...

[lockhartgary]

The Contours
Major Lance
Barbara Mason
Sam & Dave
Tyrone Davis
Ben Vereen
Irene Cara
Carrie Lucas
Dynasty
S.O.S. Band
The Deele
Surface
Gwen Guthrie
Jermaine Stewart
Glenn Jones
Freestyle [[Genre)

And, under "since Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, James Brown, Eartha Kitt, Sammy Davis Jr. got an episode" clause:

Jackie Wilson
Sherman Hemsley


Did you get a chance to see the Unsung Hollywood episode on "The Jeffersons"?

[woodward]

Mabel John
Marv Johnson

[Optimal Saint]

Forgot to add Ben E King and Bill Withers

i don't know if it's unsung but I'd love a documentary on in living color [[has Jim Carey ever talked about his time in the show?)

like the idea of shaft and superfly if the wont do them separately maybe a 2 hour on blaxploitation as a whole? Maybe two 2 hours one of the films the other on the soundtracks

theres a rocky marathon on now - I'd add Mr. T. A true mid 80s phenomenon. The man had his own breakfast cereal

id also love to see one on Sam Cooke

[sansradio]

Hollywood Unsung candidates:

Diana Sands
Noble Johnson
Madame Sul-te-Wan
James Edwards
Nina Mae McKinney
Frank Silvera
Rosalind Cash
Calvin Lockhart
Beah Richards
D’Urville Martin

[marv2]

Hollywood Unsung candidates:

Diana Sands
Noble Johnson
Madame Sul-te-Wan
James Edwards
Nina Mae McKinney
Frank Silvera
Rosalind Cash
Calvin Lockhart
Beah Richards
D’Urville Martin


That is a great list Sansradio.

[Bluebrock]

Thats great. Do you know if it will be on tv or DVD?

i know can you feel the force is their big hit but my fave song of theirs is raining through my sunshine
Their biggest UK hits were the no.1 "you to me are everything" and the no.2 "can't get by without you", but i also adore "raining through my sunshine" and other lesser hits like "you'll never know what your missing", "give me your love" and "whenever you want my love". Chris Amoo has a superb soulful voice, and i saw the group live only a few weeks back where he sounded as great as ever. Excellent group.

[Ngroove]

Did you get a chance to see the Unsung Hollywood episode on "The Jeffersons"?

Yes, but a refresher would be most nice to the public; that he was not just The Jeffersons / Amen, but everywhere, somewhere in just about every popular show between the seventies to nineties, myself with my golden memories of Family Matters, Sister, Sister, and Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air.

[jboy88]

Definitely Harold Melvin and the Blue notes! I’ve heard too many stories about Harold! The chill, laid back demeanor displayed on the recordings was the opposite of his true self.

Also, Sam & Dave and Sanford & Son for the same reasons. So much tea!

[Roberta75]

Yvonne Fair
The 70's Supremes
Lipps Inc
Betty Wright

[JimBagley]

I would love to see an episode on Judy Pace

[Optimal Saint]

Hollywood Unsung candidates:

Diana Sands
Noble Johnson
Madame Sul-te-Wan
James Edwards
Nina Mae McKinney
Frank Silvera
Rosalind Cash
Calvin Lockhart
Beah Richards
D’Urville Martin

only name I recognize is Rosalind Cash

need to google the rest

also add Chi McBride, Keith David and Ving Rhames

[sansradio]

That is a great list Sansradio.

Thank ya, sir.

[sansradio]

I would love to see an episode on Judy Pace

Excellent choice! Her marriage to Curt Flood alone would make it must-see TV.

[sansradio]

only name I recognize is Rosalind Cash

need to google the rest

I guess that makes them great candidates, in that case! :cool:

Welcome to the Forum, BTW!

[marv2]

Thank ya, sir.

You're inclusion of James Edwards was a pleasant surprise in that I have been looking for a made of TV he made when I was a kid called "Color Me German". I found it listed but not a way to obtain a copy of it. Diana Sands was great, totally unsung.

[sansradio]

You're inclusion of James Edwards was a pleasant surprise in that I have been looking for a made of TV he made when I was a kid called "Color Me German". I found it listed but not a way to obtain a copy of it. Diana Sands was great, totally unsung.

Interesting. That title is new to me. I’ll do some poking around. He could’ve been as big as Poitier [[and in fact made his splash first), but apparently was troubled and not a team player.

And I live and breathe Diana Sands. Just a magnificent talent taken way too soon.

[marv2]

Excellent choice! Her marriage to Curt Flood alone would make it must-see TV.

She also married for years to actor Don Marshall of "Ironside" fame.

[marv2]

Interesting. That title is new to me. I’ll do some poking around. He could’ve been as big as Poitier [[and in fact made his splash first), but apparently was troubled and not a team player.

And I live and breathe Diana Sands. Just a magnificent talent taken way too soon.

The formal, complete title of the program was : "NBC Experiment in Television" [[TV Series 1967–1971) - I saw the "Color Me German" episode in the spring of 1970 while I was stuck in the hospital at 9 years old. I learned recently that Edwards passed away earlier that year.

[sansradio]

She also married for years to actor Don Marshall of "Ironside" fame.

Oh, snap, that’s right! Rest his soul.

[sansradio]

The formal, complete title of the program was : "NBC Experiment in Television" [[TV Series 1967–1971) - I saw the "Color Me German" episode in the spring of 1970 while I was stuck in the hospital at 9 years old. I learned recently that Edwards passed away earlier that year.

Will look into it.

On another note, what about Brenda Sykes? She was a sex symbol for a hot minute. The last TV or film credit I can find is an episode of “Good Times” from ‘79; then she married Gil Scott-Heron and kind of disappeared from the Hollywood scene.

Lola Falana deserves one big-time. A ‘70s household name who’s forgotten/unknown to the current generations.

[marv2]

Will look into it.

On another note, what about Brenda Sykes? She was a sex symbol for a hot minute. The last TV or film credit I can find is an episode of “Good Times” from ‘79; then she married Gil Scott-Heron and kind of disappeared from the Hollywood scene.

Lola Falana deserves one big-time. A ‘70s household name who’s forgotten/unknown to the current generations.

Love Brenda Sykes, love Lola Falana both beautiful, talented women. They need to be recognized.

[blackguy69]

I highly doubt the 70’s Supremes or The Smokey less miracles will be featured for the pure fact that it’s a continuation of the same groups that were already big. Same with Chaka and Patti. More than likely you won’t see Curtis either or the four tops.

[blackguy69]

I would love to see the Honeycone ,the Originals and Vicky Sue Robinson

[midnightman]

The Three Degrees and First Choice each need one. They done covered all the Philly male groups, now they need to do the female acts there.

[marv2]

I would love to see the Honeycone ,the Originals and Vicky Sue Robinson

Vicki Sue Robinson for sure and the Originals most def.!

[marv2]

I highly doubt the 70’s Supremes or The Smokey less miracles will be featured for the pure fact that it’s a continuation of the same groups that were already big. Same with Chaka and Patti. More than likely you won’t see Curtis either or the four tops.

I agree, that would not make sense. There was never a group called "The 70s Supremes" or "The Smokey Less Miracles". Besides both are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and both have stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. They are not "unsung".

[Optimal Saint]

I highly doubt the 70’s Supremes or The Smokey less miracles will be featured for the pure fact that it’s a continuation of the same groups that were already big.

I've decided that I'm going to die on this hill.

I'll grant the argument against the post Motown Four Tops.

Every artist that has been recording for decades has a "heyday" that the majority of the hits and fame came from.

Other than Standing on the Top, I couldn't tell you a single post 1980 Temptations song. But I don't think that 80s and beyond Temptations need an unsung episode. So I get excluding the tops. i'd like to see it but I get it

I think that the Supremes and Miracles are a different story.

When a group loses it's lead singer that is a line in the sand, a clear division between eras

There is a definite difference between Diana leaving the Supremes versus Flo

And as far as the general public is concerned at least 95% of the hits and fame and being "sung" comes from the Diana & Smokey eras

I'd love to find out more about the transitions. I think that Smokey wanted to leave the Miracles 2-3 years before he finally did

How was Jean Terrell chosen as the new lead?

I'd heard that's not who Berry Gordy wanted. If that's true who did he want?

Who else was in the running? Was Mary becoming the new lead not an option?

was there competition between new Supremes and Diana solo? both in and outside Motown?

the Miracles losing Smokey meant not just losing their lead singer but also their main writer and producer.

How did they decide what direction to move in?

Personally I would still like to see a deeper dive into that time period of both groups

[Optimal Saint]

Add

Jimmy Castor Bunch
Tyrone Davis
Black Ivory
Five Stairsteps
Commodores - to the public at large I think they are Brick House and the group Lionel Ritchie was in before he went solo
Lee Dorsey
Leon Ware
Albert King
Edwin Starr
Jerry Butler
Chuck Jackson
Billy Paul
Morris Day & the Time
Dionne Warwick [[I'd say Dee Dee too, but the Whitney allegations makes it unlikely)


For Hollywood Alfre Woodard - I always thought she was like the female Morgan Freeman: always classes up whatever project she's in

Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon

Scatman Crothers

Carl Weathers

[manny]

I'm totally agree with "post - Smokey Robinson's MIRACLES". Since my teens, when I purchased "Love Crazy" I can't spend more than a month without re-heard this MONUMENTAL masterpiece of harmony vocal soul... and the falasetto of Billy Griffin on this album is, IMHO, his best on his career.

[manny]

My humble list [[some one have been mentioned before):

- Incognito
- Light Of The World [[the UK fusion group "mother" or origin of Beggar & Co and Incognito)
- Roy Ayers
- Futures
- Mighty Clouds Of Joy
- Floaters
- Dramatics
- Sweet Sensation
- Melba Moore
- Sisters Love
- People's Choice
- Soul Survivors
- Double Exposure
- O.T. Sykes
- O. V. Wright
- Angelo Bond
- Sylvia Smith
- Freda Payne
- Sidney Joe Quails
- Natural Four
- Joe Tex
- Tyrone Davis
- Clarence Carter
- Frederic Knight
- Sharon Paige [[solo and with The Blue Notes on PIR and after in ABC and Source)

[sansradio]

My humble list [[some one have been mentioned before):

- Incognito
- Light Of The World [[the UK fusion group "mother" or origin of Beggar & Co and Incognito)
- Roy Ayers
- Futures
- Mighty Clouds Of Joy
- Floaters
- Dramatics
- Sweet Sensation
- Melba Moore
- Sisters Love
- People's Choice
- Soul Survivors
- Double Exposure
- O.T. Sykes
- O. V. Wright
- Angelo Bond
- Sylvia Smith
- Freda Payne
- Sidney Joe Quails
- Natural Four
- Joe Tex
- Tyrone Davis
- Clarence Carter
- Frederic Knight
- Sharon Paige [[solo and with The Blue Notes on PIR and after in ABC and Source)

Melba Moore has been featured on "Unsung" already, as have The Dramatics. Here's the Dramatics link, which won't embed, for some reason. Hope you can see this in your country.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6nsdy3

[mr_june]

I didn't read the entire thread but if not mentioned, The Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose would be a nice unsung episode. Here are some more:

Archie Bell & The Drells, The Intruders, Major Lance, Gene Chandler, The Five Stair Steps, Sonji Clay, Mel & Tim and Tavares.

[mr_june]

First post but Long time lurker here.

Who do you think needs an unsung episode?

I have many candidates:

There are some big names here but if The O'jays, Spinners, both lead singers of the Temptations and Otis Redding are Unsung then anyone could be


Joe Simon
Jr Walker & the All Stars
War
Joe Tex
Mandrill
Osibisa

Main Ingredient
Paul Kelly
Meters
Syl Johnson
New Birth
Booker T & the MGs
Ann Peeples
OV Wright
Solomon Burke
Slave

Chairmen of the Board [[or Invictus-Hot Wax as a whole, labels owned by HDH after they left Motown, acts include the Chairmen, Freda Payne, Honey Cone, Flaming Ember)

Archie Bell and the Drells
LaBelle/Patti Labelle
Rufus/Chaka Khan
Johnny "Guitar" Watson
Average White Band
Post Diana Supremes
Post Smokey Miracles
Post Motown Four Tops
Willie Hutch
Johnny Bristol
The Trammps
Tony! Tone! Toni!
Curtis Mayfield
Betty Wright
Bettye Lavette
Rufus Thomas
Carla Thomas
Irma Thomas
Sam & Dave
Candi Staton
Clarence Carter

If we're doing Unsung Hollywood:

227
Amen
The Wiz
Five Heartbeats/Robert Townsend
Leon
Good Times
Frank's Place/Tim Reid



Mandrill definitely needs an Unsung episode.

[arr&bee]

How about-ray,goodman brown[aka]the moments?

[Cincinnati_Kid]

I would nominate Joe Tex. My parents loved that guy when I was a youngster... I can hear "Skinny Legs and All" playing in my head now.

[Optimal Saint]

Isley Brothers

Allen Toussaint

Sade

James Carr

denise lasalle

clarence Reid "blowfly"

Roy Ayers

shuggie Otis

zZ Hill

Lattimore

anita Baker

Brothers Johnson

[Optimal Saint]

I would nominate Joe Tex. My parents loved that guy when I was a youngster... I can hear "Skinny Legs and All" playing in my head now.

i gotcha and loose caboose are my fave Tex tunes

[marv2]

I would nominate Joe Tex. My parents loved that guy when I was a youngster... I can hear "Skinny Legs and All" playing in my head now.

Yep, definitely Joe Tex!

[Optimal Saint]

I’m disappointed in the picks for the new season

I’d rather see any of the great suggestions in this thread than what the network picked

I know his heyday predates most of those listed by Billy Eckstine?

I love Numero’s Eccentric Soul series and I’d love a documentary on any of the labels they featured

Mothers Finest

For Hollywood

Louis Gossett Jr

Levar Burton [[roots, reading rainbow and Star Trek, I always thought he should’ve been bigger than he was)

Eriq LaSalle best known for ER

Alphonso Riberio Silver spoons fresh prince and that michael Jackson Pepsi commercial

[Cincinnati_Kid]

I’m disappointed in the picks for the new season

I’d rather see any of the great suggestions in this thread than what the network picked

I know his heyday predates most of those listed by Billy Eckstine?

I love Numero’s Eccentric Soul series and I’d love a documentary on any of the labels they featured

Mothers Finest

For Hollywood

Louis Gossett Jr

Levar Burton [[roots, reading rainbow and Star Trek, I always thought he should’ve been bigger than he was)

Eriq LaSalle best known for ER

Alphonso Riberio Silver spoons fresh prince and that michael Jackson Pepsi commercial

Who did they pick for the new season?

[lockhartgary]

Who did they pick for the new season?
Season starts March 3, 2019.

Those showcased will be:
Lloyd
Adina Howard
The Jets
Shirley Murdock
Crystal Waters
Glenn Jones
Kenny Latimore
Tasha Cobbs Leonard

[PeaceNHarmony]

Esther Phillips.

[Guy]

Nona Hendryx
Roy Ayers
Patti Austin
Randy Crawford

[caliluv]

Don Covay!!

[Optimal Saint]

Not an unsung episode but I just read that Robert Townsend finished a documentary on the Five Heartbeats

Can’t wait to see it

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Nona Hendryx
Roy Ayers
Patti Austin
Randy Crawford


All of these would be great, especially Roy Ayers, whom I thought was underrated.

[Optimal Saint]

Is Chubby Checker worthy of an unsung?

I just know him for the twist

But I think he was a huge deal at the time and was a massive influence on that era

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Is Chubby Checker worthy of an unsung?

I just know him for the twist

But I think he was a huge deal at the time and was a massive influence on that era

Maybe. But I would think, longevity and number of hit songs aren't in his favor. He was only popular for a few years.

[marv2]

All of these would be great, especially Roy Ayers, whom I thought was underrated.

I vote for Roy Ayers also. He made some incredible music.

[marv2]

Chubby Checker is an American Music Icon even without a long list of hit records.

[arr&bee]

The artistics

[edafan]

James Jamerson & his influence on later bass players

[Ngroove]

Still hoping for one on Sam & Dave. I really, really, really want to know, in Sam Moore's words, his thoughts on Atlantic owning them all along over Stax, Stax splitting from them, and afterwards.

[nativeNY63]

Don Covay!!
Yes! "Your love is like a Seesaw, baby...up, down..!

[nativeNY63]

Here's my picks, guys:

Unsung -

Case
Unifics
G C Cameron
Jerry Butler [[The Iceman)
AWB
Rare Earth
Jesse Johnson
Alexander O'Neal
Billy Stewart
Rockwell
Musiq Soulchild
Calvin Richardson
Brainstorm
Grover Washington, Jr

Unsung Hollywood -

Tatiana Ali [[Fresh Prince of Bel Air)
Aries Spears ,[[comedian/actor/impressionist)
Jayne Kennedy

Enjoy!

[sansradio]

Hey native, I believe Alexander O'Neal did have an "Unsung" ep a few years back. If memory serves, it was a joint program with Cherrelle.

[Optimal Saint]

Was there more to Rockwell than I think?

Which is he was Berry Gordy’s son who had one hit song that was only a hit because Thriller era Michael Jackson was on it

[nativeNY63]

Hey native, I believe Alexander O'Neal did have an "Unsung" ep a few years back. If memory serves, it was a joint program with Cherrelle.
Thanks, sans. Missed it.

[nativeNY63]

Was there more to Rockwell than I think?

Which is he was Berry Gordy’s son who had one hit song that was only a hit because Thriller era Michael Jackson was on it
Yup. And the only other asterisk to his "career", was that he enjoyed beating the tar out of his live-in girlfriend! Girlie-man hit her with a chair! "I always feel like somebody's watching me. And I get no privacy!" [[cue Michael)

[StuBass1]

Did anyone say Ronnie Dyson? Would be a very compelling episode...

[nativeNY63]

Add Miche'le and Diddy balladeer, Carl Thomas. Pearl Bailey too.

[lockhartgary]

Add Miche'le and Diddy balladeer, Carl Thomas. Pearl Bailey too.


Michel'le has an Unsung episode.

[nativeNY63]

Michel'le has an Unsung episode.
Thanks, lockhartgary.

[glencro]

I've decided that I'm going to die on this hill.

I'll grant the argument against the post Motown Four Tops.

Every artist that has been recording for decades has a "heyday" that the majority of the hits and fame came from.

Other than Standing on the Top, I couldn't tell you a single post 1980 Temptations song. But I don't think that 80s and beyond Temptations need an unsung episode. So I get excluding the tops. i'd like to see it but I get it

I think that the Supremes and Miracles are a different story.

When a group loses it's lead singer that is a line in the sand, a clear division between eras

There is a definite difference between Diana leaving the Supremes versus Flo

And as far as the general public is concerned at least 95% of the hits and fame and being "sung" comes from the Diana & Smokey eras

I'd love to find out more about the transitions. I think that Smokey wanted to leave the Miracles 2-3 years before he finally did

How was Jean Terrell chosen as the new lead?

I'd heard that's not who Berry Gordy wanted. If that's true who did he want?

Who else was in the running? Was Mary becoming the new lead not an option?

was there competition between new Supremes and Diana solo? both in and outside Motown?

the Miracles losing Smokey meant not just losing their lead singer but also their main writer and producer.

How did they decide what direction to move in?

Personally I would still like to see a deeper dive into that time period of both groups

I have to agree with you. I would love to hear more about the post Diana Supremes and post Smokey Miracles, even the challenges they had in their attempt to move forward. They both seemed like completely different groups after their leads left. Unlike the other groups mentioned, these two groups not only lost the member but the name that defined the groups.

[jboy88]

The Impressions, who rebounded after losing not one, but TWO lead singers!

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Add Miche'le and Diddy balladeer, Carl Thomas. Pearl Bailey too.

Pearl Bailey is a good call....

[Cincinnati_Kid]

The Impressions, who rebounded after losing not one, but TWO lead singers!

Them too !!

[Optimal Saint]

I have to agree with you. I would love to hear more about the post Diana Supremes and post Smokey Miracles, even the challenges they had in their attempt to move forward. They both seemed like completely different groups after their leads left. Unlike the other groups mentioned, these two groups not only lost the member but the name that defined the groups.

Looks like it’s just you and me on this

We’re like Denzel at the end of glory

[nativeNY63]

William DeVaughn and D'Angelo

[mr_june]

The Intruders
Billy Butler
Major Lance
Sonji Clay [[Royce)
Gene Chandler
The Brothers of Soul
5 Stair Steps

[nativeNY63]

Black Ivory.

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Johnny "Guitar" Watson. Would love to see one on him.

[splanky]

I don't know why I didn't think of Roy when I first responded to this question but he
would be perfect for an unsung. He's produced what has become a standard [[Everybody
Loves The Sunshine) and worked with a variety of other folks, from the legendary Afrobeat icon Fela Kuti to Rick James....I agree, he could use an Unsung....but I still want New Birth...

[mr_june]

If not listed:

Johnny Pate big time.

[arr&bee]

The moments..the flamingos..clyde mcphatter.

[marv2]

MC Lyte

Angela Bofil

Keith Washington

[sansradio]

Angela Bofil


Angela was given an "Unsung" episode years ago.

[marv2]

Angela was given an "Unsung" episode years ago.

Really? Good, thanks. I have to find that.

[sansradio]

Really? Good, thanks. I have to find that.

Yeah, the cameras even accompany her to post-stroke therapy. It's wrenching to watch, but, at the same time, her tenacity shines through, which makes the episode bittersweet.

[marv2]

Yeah, the cameras even accompany her to post-stroke therapy. It's wrenching to watch, but, at the same time, her tenacity shines through, which makes the episode bittersweet.


I saw Angie in concert at the Masonic Auditorium in Toledo years and years ago. It was one the best shows I had seen. She really could sing and was very personable.

[nativeNY63]

Forgot to add Ben E King and Bill Withers

i don't know if it's unsung but I'd love a documentary on in living color [[has Jim Carey ever talked about his time in the show?)

like the idea of shaft and superfly if the wont do them separately maybe a 2 hour on blaxploitation as a whole? Maybe two 2 hours one of the films the other on the soundtracks

theres a rocky marathon on now - I'd add Mr. T. A true mid 80s phenomenon. The man had his own breakfast cereal

id also love to see one on Sam Cooke

There's a good documentary on YouTube on In Living Color. It was a reunion of sorts. Carrey & Jamie Foxx were a no show. Too big for such small potatoes!! Har har.

[nativeNY63]

Definitely Harold Melvin and the Blue notes! I’ve heard too many stories about Harold! The chill, laid back demeanor displayed on the recordings was the opposite of his true self.

Also, Sam & Dave and Sanford & Son for the same reasons. So much tea!
Supposedly, Harold was throwing shade on TP singing lead. "Who's in charge here?" - Al Haig

[nativeNY63]

Love Brenda Sykes, love Lola Falana both beautiful, talented women. They need to be recognized.
Toss in the ultra-gorgeous Jayne Kennedy of those '70's prison flicks. And her wacky then husband too!

[nativeNY63]

The super underrated Calvin Richardson. And equally underrated Eric Roberson.

[Optimal Saint]

The UK group "The Real Thing" are releasing a documentary soon... that would be good to watch

Was this ever released?

[Philles/Motown Gary]

I totally agree with any mention of two acts already mentioned on this thread:
Brenda and the Tabulations and New Birth. I might be interested in a couple pages on some
of the others but as far as Brenda and New Birth I want a book...Backtracking a sec,
I'd add Jean Carne but as her story is still unfolding in this time, she and her ex Doug
reconciled a couple of years ago, so I doubt Unsung would dare to write a tale still
being told...

I couldn't agree with you more regarding Brenda & The Tabs, Splanky. So many beautiful records -- many of which were Van McCoy-related, no less -- yet they remain, sadly, buried in the shadows.

[thatanyway]

Tavares.


Top suggestion.

[Optimal Saint]

I know they are more jazz/world music than soul but should Hugh Masekela and Manu Dibango have an unsung episode?

[Optimal Saint]

Richard Pryor is hardly unsung

But I feel his TV shows are

I’d love an episode of unsung Hollywood on both his short lived [[4 episodes) sketch comedy show - precursor to in living color

And Pryors Place his tv show for children

[kpitt1204]

Double Exposure, First Choice, Mary Wilson, En Vogue, Patti Labelle and the Bluebelles, Bettye Lavette, George Benson, Dee Dee Sharp, The Intruders, The Sweet Inspirations, and the Three Degrees need Unsung episodes, in my humble opinion. PS. Add Roberta Flack to that list.

[jboy88]

Richard Pryor is hardly unsung

But I feel his TV shows are

I’d love an episode of unsung Hollywood on both his short lived [[4 episodes) sketch comedy show - precursor to in living color

And Pryors Place his tv show for children

I would have to slightly disagree with that one Saint. There are quite a few millennials and Gen Zs who have never even heard of Richard Pryor. I’ve had to to explain to many of my contemporaries who he was upon referencing him.

[Optimal Saint]

I would have to slightly disagree with that one Saint. There are quite a few millennials and Gen Zs who have never even heard of Richard Pryor. I’ve had to to explain to many of my contemporaries who he was upon referencing him.

That is sad and disturbing

‘Never even heard of Richard Pryor?’

How is that possible? It would be like never even hearing of Muhammad Ali

[Optimal Saint]

Does Grace Jones need an Unsung?

[Optimal Saint]

Patti Austin

[jboy88]

The new season is starting next month. If you had Betty Wright, Billy Paul or Al Jarreau on your want list, your in for a surprise.

[lockhartgary]

The new season is starting next month. If you had Betty Wright, Billy Paul or Al Jarreau on your want list, your in for a surprise.

Thanks for the update.

Here's a full list of who will be featured:

MC Roxanne Shante
Christopher Williams
Skyy
Shannon
Billy Paul
Betty Wright
Al Jarreau
Goodie Mob.

[jboy88]

Don’t forget Dru Hill, who’s story is kicking off the new season. It also been confirmed that the Jones Girls are going to be featured possibly later this year. I guess they realize there’s still an audience for 70s artists.

[Optimal Saint]

Thanks for the update.

Here's a full list of who will be featured:

MC Roxanne Shante
Christopher Williams
Skyy
Shannon
Billy Paul
Betty Wright
Al Jarreau
Goodie Mob.


Most interested in billy Paul and betty Wright

Where o where is my joe Simon and joe Tex episodes?

[Cincinnati_Kid]

As I mentioned earlier, would love a Johnny "Guitar" Watson as well.

[Optimal Saint]

Unsung Hollywood

New Jack City
Friday
I know they did one on Kid & Play but I feel that House Party could get it's own episode
Not really unsung but I’d love one on James earl Jones
Nell Carter
DJ Hughley
Nia Long
Sanaa Lathan

[scanspeak]

I'd love to see an episode on Berry Gordy or Raynoma Singleton.

[Optimal Saint]

I enjoyed the Morris Day episode

Not really interested in any of the other episodes other than the jones girls

Someone should email this thread to TV One

Some great choices here

I know he’s known more as a songwriter but I’d like to see George Jackson

Also Willie Hutch

[Optimal Saint]

Was the real thing documentary ever released?

[Optimal Saint]

Finally listened to the Tyrone Davis box set that had been sitting on my shelf for years

Needs an unsung

Lots of great songs

Al Wilson? The snake and show and tell were hits

I’d like one on the Kashmere Stage Band but to be fair they have a documentary Thunder Soul

Well worth watching if you’ve never seen it

[Optimal Saint]

Reading this makes me want a Garrett Morris Unsung

It Ain't Easy Being Garrett Morris | Cracked.com [[https://www.cracked.com/article_32320_it-aint-easy-being-garrett-morris.html)

And I'm doubling down on Joe Simon

[Optimal Saint]

Andre Williams and Eddie Bo

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Reading this makes me want a Garrett Morris Unsung

It Ain't Easy Being Garrett Morris | Cracked.com [[https://www.cracked.com/article_32320_it-aint-easy-being-garrett-morris.html)

And I'm doubling down on Joe Simon


Especially since Joe Simon recently passed away.

[Optimal Saint]

Just listened to my Jackie Wilson CD's - definitely could use an Unsung

I think to the public at large he's known as the singer Berry Gordy wrote songs for right before he started Motown

[Optimal Saint]

Wasn't a huge fan of this new season. I did like the PM Dawn episode

The decade episodes were interesting

Basically Unsung: One Hit Wonders of the [[Decade)

Artists who had their big hit but not enough for a whole Unsung episode on their own

I thought they felt a little rushed, probably could/should have made each one 2 hours

[jboy88]

Edwin Starr and Brick had more than enough hits for their own episodes. Especially since “Soul 4 Real” got on despite only having two major hits.

[MIKEW-UK]

Surprised that nobody has mentioned an individual who made his first record in 1954 and is still recording, releasing and performing to this very day, at 79 years of age. In addition to a lifelong career as a singer, he is an accomplished musician, songwriter, arranger, producer and label owner. He has produced and written memorable and significant works on artists such as Doris Duke, Sandra Phillips, Z.Z. Hill, Arthur Conley, Charles Whitehead / Raw Spitt, Irma Thomas, Freddie North, Ruth Brown, Solomon Burke, Gary U.S. Bonds, Joe Tex, Tommy Hunt, Ruby Andrews, Barbara and The Browns, Gene Pitney!!, The Drifters, Dee Dee Warwick, Wilson Pickett, Betty Wright, Patti LaBelle and The Blue Belles, and The Staples Singers.

Completely unique, his own man and genuinely innovative, Jerry Williams, A.K.A. Swamp Dogg. Also nominated for the worst cover of all time.


Jerry Williams Jr. [Swamp Dogg after 1970, is an American soul and R&b singer, musician, songwriter and record producer. Williams has been described as "one of the great cult figures of 20th century American music."

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[Optimal Saint]

Richard Pryor is hardly unsung

But I feel his TV shows are

I’d love an episode of unsung Hollywood on both his short lived [[4 episodes) sketch comedy show - precursor to in living color

And Pryors Place his tv show for children


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJOZpgkuUeo

[Optimal Saint]

Not an unsung Hollywood but Vice’s Dark Side of the 90s just aired an episode on the Arsenio Hall Show

[woodward]

Back in September of 2018, I suggested one for Marv Johnson and one for Mabel John. If doing an hour on each one of these --- why not run the two together as Motown's 2-MJs? Devote one half of the hour to Mabel and the other half to Marv.

But I strongly urge and encourage them to do an hours presentation on the legendary Kim Weston. She was a huge Motown star in many respects, both here and in the UK.

[BobbyC]

Labelle or Nona Hendryx

[arr&bee]

Me!!!!...on second thought maybe that would be...unhinged...carry on!!

[Optimal Saint]

CNN’s Dionne Warwick doc airs tonight

[arr&bee]

DID THEY DO ONE ON THE GREAT[CLYDE McPHATTER]?

[treblefree]

Brainstorm

[Circa 1824]

Ronnie Dyson and Little Anthony. [[Little Anthony will be singing in Atlantic City this summer as part of the Happy Together tour.)