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PeaceNHarmony
08-04-2018, 07:39 PM
I say Mr. Walter Jackson.

reese
08-04-2018, 07:47 PM
Gladys Knight and the Pips

Dionne Warwick

brandosoul
08-04-2018, 08:18 PM
Gladys Knight and the Pips are way overdue of the honor. I wonder if haphazard licensing deals from various labels have prolonged the curation of a career-spanning. multi-disc retrospective from ever coming to fruition.
Roberta Flack
Chaka Khan
Rufus & Chaka Khan [[Rhino had an two-disc anthology on them that was in the works, but it never materialized. I forgot the story about what derailed it.)

Quinn
08-04-2018, 10:20 PM
Zapp & Roger. Roger Troutman was a stone genius who made the talkbox a lead instrument. His influence is still prevalent today.

brandosoul
08-04-2018, 10:25 PM
Zapp & Roger. Roger Troutman was a stone genius who made the talkbox a lead instrument. His influence is still prevalent today.

This wasn't necessarily a box set retrospective per se, but it came very close to being a pretty exhaustive anthology that covered the full scope of Roger Troutman and Zapp's artistry.

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midnightman
08-04-2018, 11:30 PM
Can't think of any besides the ones mentioned. :/

Whitney is the only one I can think of for biased reasons because she goes as far back as 1978 with her recordings [["Life is a Party" with Michael Zager was her first real lead) so that would be great to get EVERYTHING from Whitney in that 34-year period [[1978-2012).

daviddesper
08-04-2018, 11:48 PM
I would agree that Dionne Warwick could use a comprehensive box, especially if it contained previously unreleased material. But with her, my goodness, where would you start????

The rest of my answer would be primarily Motown-related, so on that front, I can think of the following that deserve the Anthology treatment: Edwin Starr, Tata Vega, High Inergy, and I don't think there has been a comprehensive Isley Brothers Motown collection has there? If I missed it, forgive me.

Oh and someday I would love to see Hodges, James and Smith's four albums appear on CD, along with whatever else might be out there that was never released.

midnightman
08-04-2018, 11:56 PM
I don't know about Tata and High Inergy but I wonder about Edwin Starr. I don't think the Isleys recorded much at Motown for one. Most of their stuff were from self-released material so that was the majority that made it to their box sets and there were also leftovers from their pre-Motown days.

Jerry Oz
08-05-2018, 12:03 AM
Cameo. They may be a little late for some of you, but Larry Blackmon's band stayed hot for almost two decades, even after the studio forced him to cut down the ensemble from 11 artists to three.

Motown Eddie
08-05-2018, 07:44 AM
I would agree that Dionne Warwick could use a comprehensive box, especially if it contained previously unreleased material. But with her, my goodness, where would you start????

The rest of my answer would be primarily Motown-related, so on that front, I can think of the following that deserve the Anthology treatment: Edwin Starr, Tata Vega, High Inergy, and I don't think there has been a comprehensive Isley Brothers Motown collection has there? If I missed it, forgive me.

Oh and someday I would love to see Hodges, James and Smith's four albums appear on CD, along with whatever else might be out there that was never released.

There was a comprehensive collection for The Isley Bros. on Motown. It's The Motown Anthology [[Motown UK/UMG-2009). With 52 tracks on 2CDs, it's got everything from their two albums on Tamla & tracks from the vaults.

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Motown Eddie
08-05-2018, 07:47 AM
I'd love for The O' Jays to get the 'box set' treatment.

phil
08-05-2018, 08:19 AM
Bobby Womack. He'd deserve more than one box !

Quinn
08-05-2018, 09:45 AM
This wasn't necessarily a box set retrospective per se, but it came very close to being a pretty exhaustive anthology that covered the full scope of Roger Troutman and Zapp's artistry.

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lakeside
08-05-2018, 10:42 AM
Hodges, James and Smith

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daviddesper
08-05-2018, 02:24 PM
Hodges, James and Smith

PREACH ON PREACH ON!!!! Maybe if enough of us request it, someone will heed the call one of these days!!

carlo
08-05-2018, 06:56 PM
Dionne Warwick for sure!

Motown Eddie
08-06-2018, 06:22 AM
Rufus & Chaka Khan [[Rhino had an two-disc anthology on them that was in the works, but it never materialized. I forgot the story about what derailed it.)

I'd love to know why there hasn't been a comprehensive collection for Rufus & Chaka Khan. They did all their albums & hit singles for ABC/MCA Records [[except for the Stompin' At The Savoy-Live LP and the single "Ain't Nobody" for WB) so UMe should be able to put together a 2CD set on the spot.

arr&bee
08-06-2018, 12:30 PM
The singin chipmonks?

Bluebrock
08-06-2018, 01:40 PM
There are some great suggestions here, and i have to agree that Gladys, Dionne, Rufus and Chaka,Bobby Womack and the O'Jays are particular deserving cases. It is quite astounding that these magnificent artists have not been given the box sets that they deserve.Might i also add Al Green and the Dells to this list please?

sansradio
08-06-2018, 02:28 PM
I submit a career-spanning box for Esther Phillips.

reese
08-06-2018, 02:40 PM
There are some great suggestions here, and i have to agree that Gladys, Dionne, Rufus and Chaka,Bobby Womack and the O'Jays are particular deserving cases. It is quite astounding that these magnificent artists have not been given the box sets that they deserve.Might i also add Al Green and the Dells to this list please?

Al has had at least one boxed set, but if I remember correctly, it concentrated on the Hi recordings.

Motown Eddie
08-06-2018, 02:47 PM
Might i also add Al Green and the Dells to this list please?

Al Green received the 'box set' treatment with Anthology [[The Right Stuff/Capitol-1997). With 61 tracks over 4CDs covering the period from his first hit [[1967's "Back Up Train" with The Soul Mates) to the final recordings for Hi Records [["Belle", "Wait Here" & "Chariots Of Fire"). And I agree with you that The Dells deserve to a career-spanning box set.

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PeaceNHarmony
08-06-2018, 04:13 PM
There are some great suggestions here, and i have to agree that Gladys, Dionne, Rufus and Chaka,Bobby Womack and the O'Jays are particular deserving cases. It is quite astounding that these magnificent artists have not been given the box sets that they deserve.Might i also add Al Green and the Dells to this list please?
I pretty much agree with all as well and especially my beloved Dells!

PeaceNHarmony
08-06-2018, 04:14 PM
I submit a career-spanning box for Esther Phillips.
That would be amazing, starting out with the Little Esther years & right up through 'A Way To Say Goodbye'. I wonder if there's anything in the vaults by Phillips?

Ngroove
08-07-2018, 01:02 PM
Ray Charles.

But seriously, just wondering, why there is not really all that many deeply comprehensive reissues on his ABC catalog?

Motown Eddie
08-07-2018, 02:36 PM
Ray Charles.

But seriously, just wondering, why there is not really all that many deeply comprehensive reissues on his ABC catalog?

There was the Singular Genius-The ABC Singles [[Concord-2011) 5 CD collection. It was a limited edition set so it came and went. Before that, there was the two volume His Greatest Hits [[DCC-1987) collections which dealt with the 1961-1972 period at ABC. These came out early in the CD era and were far from comprehensive [[for me, they were a godsend at the time).

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Bluebrock
08-08-2018, 03:07 AM
Al Green received the 'box set' treatment with Anthology [[The Right Stuff/Capitol-1997). With 61 tracks over 4CDs covering the period from his first hit [[1967's "Back Up Train" with The Soul Mates) to the final recordings for Hi Records [["Belle", "Wait Here" & "Chariots Of Fire"). And I agree with you that The Dells deserve to a career-spanning box set.

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Thank you for that. I somehow missed this one. Having said that i do have all the original albums but i shall investigate this one.

Amithesameboy
08-08-2018, 10:01 AM
The New Birth....the most underrated of all soul bands.

lakeside
08-10-2018, 07:43 PM
The Sweet Inspirations
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phil
08-11-2018, 05:51 AM
Shirley Brown.

daviddesper
08-11-2018, 11:51 PM
I think of Shirley often. Wonder if she is still performing and/or might record again someday?

Motown Eddie
08-12-2018, 05:29 AM
I feel that WAR deserves a comprehensive box set of their peak years in the '70s. They've have 2CD sets in the past but they don't really do justice to their work [[especially since they had long album tracks that were edited for their singles and various compilations).

brandosoul
08-12-2018, 09:34 PM
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BritishTony
08-13-2018, 10:16 AM
Cmon, JUNIOR WALKER!

brandosoul
08-13-2018, 12:06 PM
Cmon, JUNIOR WALKER!

Yes, yes, and yes! Long overdue.

JimBagley
08-13-2018, 03:52 PM
The O'Jays recorded for so many labels that it would be very hard to get everything licensed. I think their Bell, Neptune and Philadelphia International is with Sony/BMG and their Imperial, Capitol/EMI, and MCA are with Universal Music. Maybe a UK reissue label could get it done. They would surely do a nice job on the packaging too. Most of The Dells recordings are affiliated with Universal Music, so a box set would be more possible there. Maybe Universal UK can tackle it. I would be psyched to have at least a three disc set of Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes [[a CD of their 60s recordings for various labels like "My Hero" and "Get Out and Let Me Cry", a CD plus of their Teddy-led Philadelphia International recordings, a CD of their best David Ebo-led ABC/MCA recordings, and a couple of tracks from their mid-80s Philly World album). If anyone needs detailed liner notes with a group member timeline, it is the Blue Notes/Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes! As with the O'Jays, you have several labels involved, with many key recordings owned both of the two mega conglomerates Sony/BMG and Universal Music. Hard to imagine it happening, but I can dream.
This is a great thread. I love everyone's suggestions. For Gladys Knight & the Pips, I make do with a Motown singles set, Gold which covers highlights throughout their career, and this one that has all of the singles from their Buddah and Columbia years: https://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Train-Georgia-GLADYS-KNIGHT/dp/B000TJ6BBO/ref=sr_1_24?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1534189854&sr=1-24&keywords=gladys+knight+pips .

Motown Eddie
08-14-2018, 06:06 AM
The O'Jays recorded for so many labels that it would be very hard to get everything licensed. I think their Bell, Neptune and Philadelphia International is with Sony/BMG and their Imperial, Capitol/EMI, and MCA are with Universal Music. Maybe a UK reissue label could get it done. They would surely do a nice job on the packaging too. Most of The Dells recordings are affiliated with Universal Music, so a box set would be more possible there. Maybe Universal UK can tackle it. I would be psyched to have at least a three disc set of Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes [[a CD of their 60s recordings for various labels like "My Hero" and "Get Out and Let Me Cry", a CD plus of their Teddy-led Philadelphia International recordings, a CD of their best David Ebo-led ABC/MCA recordings, and a couple of tracks from their mid-80s Philly World album). If anyone needs detailed liner notes with a group member timeline, it is the Blue Notes/Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes! As with the O'Jays, you have several labels involved, with many key recordings owned both of the two mega conglomerates Sony/BMG and Universal Music. Hard to imagine it happening, but I can dream.
This is a great thread. I love everyone's suggestions. For Gladys Knight & the Pips, I make do with a Motown singles set, Gold which covers highlights throughout their career, and this one that has all of the singles from their Buddah and Columbia years: https://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Train-Georgia-GLADYS-KNIGHT/dp/B000TJ6BBO/ref=sr_1_24?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1534189854&sr=1-24&keywords=gladys+knight+pips .

I think that a comprehensive box set for The O'Jays could easily be done. There's only two large record conglomerates to cross-license the songs from [[and remember Sony's 4CD set, Love Train: The Sound Of Philadelphia, many songs on it were licensed from other labels).

jack020
08-15-2018, 03:24 AM
Sylvester, The Pointer Sisters, Anita Baker