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snakepit
06-13-2018, 11:00 AM
Ralph,
SDF has lost so many members over the years, many put off by the preponderance of DRATS threads.
Many members have asked for a separate DRATS thread but that has never happened.
Now we seem to have DRATS threads appearing here. Please save SDF by insisting that similar posts are made in the Motown forum, otherwise, like poison Ivy this will spread and ruin the main forum.

PeaceNHarmony
06-13-2018, 11:37 AM
Not sure but I think anyone is free to not read threads about performers they don't like. Anyhoo it works for me.

soulster
06-13-2018, 11:55 AM
The place is overrun with DRATS threads. Almost every thread has Diana Ross in it. It's out of hand! Give them their own section!

snakepit
06-13-2018, 12:30 PM
That has been requested before but Ralph refused.
You can see the results on Motown forum.
We've lost a lot of members as a result.
If SDF is swamped with DRATS then it will be such a shame.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 12:34 PM
Not sure but I think anyone is free to not read threads about performers they don't like. Anyhoo it works for me.

It's not about the artists ...it's the banal tit for tat posts that ruin the forum. If not corrected this forum will be swamped by rival groups arguing DRATS stuff....repeatedly.
At least they have a home in Motown forum...keep it there please.

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 12:37 PM
Wow, me putting one thread in the wrong forum by mistake has really pissed you off, hasn't it snakepit? For someone whose concerned about users being put off and leaving, shouldn't you maybe have less of a hostile overreaction to such an innocent mistake? I mean jeez, have a cup of chamomile tea or something. The funny part is it wasn't even a DRATS topic, it was a Supremes one as the lineup was Diana/Florence/Mary and I was mostly interested in Florence anyway. So I don't get where all this DRATS this and Diana Ross that comes from. You are not famous enough to be acting like this much of a diva.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 12:43 PM
I think you have been a member for 1 month...you have no idea what results from any DRATS threads.
But take it from me, the continual threads and arguments over the years have ruined this web site.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 12:51 PM
You have started at least 3 Supremes related threads in SDF main forum...hardly 1 mistake.

soulster
06-13-2018, 12:51 PM
When a new person comes into this forum, they see that almost all of the threads are DRATS/Diana Ross-related. It's discouraging to anyone who comes here with other musical interests. They suddenly think it's a DRATS forum, and leave. If they look at these threads, they see the bickering in them. Again, the industry cats who USED to frequent this place have been run off by all of it.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 12:56 PM
This site was started as a tribute to 60's Detroit soul artists and labels, specifically Darrell Banks.
I doubt if 90% of the current members have heard of him.

soulster
06-13-2018, 01:00 PM
Barring a separate section for the DRATS fans, perhaps an indefinite moratorium on all DRATS threads is in order with a closure of all related current threads.

The drastic remedy is a second purge.

But, Ralph does not like to be told what to do, and he doesn't like his hand forced.

khansperac
06-13-2018, 01:00 PM
Not sure how this formum is set up but canít a moderator move a thread if itís posted in the wrong forum? Also before actually posting in this forum I use to browse And it was always funny to me how those that constantly complain about Diana Ross and the Supremes threads or mentions, were always the ones to bring up her name in Unrelated threads As a joke or a dig.

soulster
06-13-2018, 01:04 PM
This site was started as a tribute to 60's Detroit soul artists and labels, specifically Darrell Banks.
I doubt if 90% of the current members have heard of him.

I only have one song by him, his big hit "Ooo Wee, I Love You". It's a childhood favorite.

soulster
06-13-2018, 01:07 PM
Not sure how this formum is set up but can’t a moderator move a thread if it’s posted in the wrong forum? Also before actually posting in this forum I use to browse And it was always funny to me how those that constantly complain about Diana Ross and the Supremes threads or mentions, were always the ones to bring up her name in Unrelated threads As a joke or a dig.

Well, that needs to end too.

If enough of we vets speak up, maybe Ralph will finally be compelled to do something about it. I remember what this forum was like in the early 2000s before the DRATS people came in.

ralpht
06-13-2018, 01:08 PM
I'll discuss this with Lowell to see if we can open up a special room.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 01:11 PM
Barring a separate section for the DRATS fans, perhaps an indefinite moratorium on all DRATS threads is in order with a closure of all related current threads.

The drastic remedy is a second purge.

But, Ralph does not like to be told what to do, and he doesn't like his hand forced.

I don't care how many DRATS threads there are..I'm way past caring. But at least I know where all this nonsense resides.
There is hardly any point in starting any threads in Motown Forum as they are swamped by you know what!
The ship has long sailed...
But the SDF forum has generally remained safe...but one DRATS begets another and another and on it goes.

khansperac
06-13-2018, 01:21 PM
I really donít think that will work either, unless you have separate threads/forums for all the top Motown acts. Because what will happen next is some people will still be offended that the DRATS forum/thread will always be at the top. Also you should not be forced to post a thread about Diana Ross in a DRATS forum or Mary Wilson for that matter either.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 01:32 PM
Tell you what...posts as many DRATS threads in Clubhouse..see what Ralph says about that.

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 01:33 PM
So you are trying to save the forum from arguments.... by going out of your way to start numerous arguments with me over one post?

This makes sense to you, how?

khansperac
06-13-2018, 01:39 PM
I do agree however that those threads that are about any Motown artist belong in the Motown forum. I have to ask again isnít it just a simple thing just having the moderator or one of the moderators not sure how many there are, just simply move them to the Motown section?

snakepit
06-13-2018, 01:40 PM
You don't learn do you?
There is a home for Motown related posts. Many current and past members believe that the Motown Forum had been ruined by the number and contents of DRATS posts. But it is the home for such posts.
You have posted 3 [[THREE) threads with a Supremes theme on SDF. If you continue to post DRATS related topics in SDF , you will be encouraging more snd more DRATS threads.
That will result in members who have no intetest in DRATS nonsense to leave the site.

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 01:46 PM
That's the thing. I never mentioned the DRATS: he says I made three in the wrong forum over the past few days, but really:

1. Was about Florence Ballard's solo album with ABC. So not really anything to do with Motown, and certainly nothing to do with Diana Ross and the Supremes as they were known then.

2. A performence of Everybody Needs Somebody: no Diana Ross there, unless she's disguised herself cunningly as Jean Terrell. I posted it for the brief solo by Cindy.

3. The one that kicked him off and make this topic after biting my head off was a post featuring Flo, Mary and Diana doing a medley of their 60s hits, and featured the three wearing lovely gowns that Flo in particular was feeling. Not DRATS there either, it wasn't called that until Flo got kicked out.

I generally try to post Supremes posts in the Motown forum, but tbh I have dyspraxia and I get a bit flustered sometimes as the two forums look very similar and sometimes post the wrong post in the wrong forum. It's not intentional and certainly not part of this evil plan to turn it into a DRATS fansite as this guy seems to accuse me of doing. Besides as much as I love Diana, she comes after Flo, Cindy and Jean in that order.

ralpht
06-13-2018, 01:52 PM
You guys asked for it and it is coming. Check top thread on the main forum.

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 01:55 PM
As much as I don't appreciate that guy beating my head off, I really do like the idea of having a forum just for the Supremes, so thank you ralph for restoring order to the universe.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 01:57 PM
I am not suggesting any evil plan. I am trying to prevent SDF from being ruined by pointing out what WILL happen if you continue to post in SDF.
If if is a mistake then that is unfortunate, but 3 seems careless..Oscar Wilde might say so at least.
Carry on anyway ...

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 02:01 PM
If you want to get technical, NONE of my topics had anything to do with DRATs, one was a medley of Supremes performances featuring Florence, the 2nd was a live recording of the Jean/Cindy/Mary lineup and one topic didn't even have anything to do with Motown: it was covering Florence's songs recorded with ABC.

Go be a plague on someone else's house you pompous windbag.

marv2
06-13-2018, 02:04 PM
I'll discuss this with Lowell to see if we can open up a special room.

That would be great Ralph! Right now it's like "Diana Ross World" LOL!!!!

marv2
06-13-2018, 02:05 PM
I only have one song by him, his big hit "Ooo Wee, I Love You". It's a childhood favorite.

You don't have "Open the Door to Your Heart"?

snakepit
06-13-2018, 02:06 PM
So you started 3 threads about
1. Cindy Birdsong
2. Supremes Medley
3. Florence Ballard
And none of that relates to DRATS.?

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 02:09 PM
1. Yes. No DRATs as the lineup was Jean, Mary and Cindy.

2. The Supremes: not the DRATs.

3. Florence Ballard's post-Motown attempts to forge a solo career.

Not seeing any drats, except "Drats, that pedantic fool is still trying to start something with me."

marv2
06-13-2018, 02:09 PM
Well, that needs to end too.

If enough of we vets speak up, maybe Ralph will finally be compelled to do something about it. I remember what this forum was like in the early 2000s before the DRATS people came in.

The DRATS people came here from Yahoo when all of those old groups kind of went defunct.

PeaceNHarmony
06-13-2018, 02:11 PM
If you want to get technical, NONE of my topics had anything to do with DRATs, one was a medley of Supremes performances featuring Florence, the 2nd was a live recording of the Jean/Cindy/Mary lineup and one topic didn't even have anything to do with Motown: it was covering Florence's songs recorded with ABC.

Go be a plague on someone else's house you pompous windbag.
Based on the 'pompus windbag' I presumed you were referring to me but then reconsidered :rolleyes: Anyhoo I'm glad to see your posts wheresoever they turn up!

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 02:14 PM
Aw thank you, now this is what I come to Soulful Detroit for not being scolded by bad tempered hair-splitters.

Now that I've had my first argument on here, I don't think I'm fit to share my last name with Cindy Birdsong, the sweet Supreme.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 02:18 PM
Hair splitter?
You make distinctions about Members of a group called Supremes/ Drats?

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 02:57 PM
have you considered getting some sort of hobby

snakepit
06-13-2018, 03:01 PM
Too busy being obsessed about pink dresses.

marv2
06-13-2018, 03:03 PM
You guys asked for it and it is coming. Check top thread on the main forum.

Thank you Ralph!

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-13-2018, 03:04 PM
Well what are you obsessed with? Bath salts? Delusional malcontent.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 03:23 PM
You seem a very angry person. You have made several personal comments about me. I have just suggested to you that your posts may cause problems to the main SDF forum.
But after many years we now have a DRATS thread , where you can all get along very happily.

soulster
06-13-2018, 03:29 PM
You don't have "Open the Door to Your Heart"?

I'm probably confusing Darrell Banks with Fred Hughes again. Yes, I have both.


Thank you Ralph!


AT last! Let's see if this will contain the craziness.

The way I use this forum is to hit the "Headline Topics" button at the top. That way, I see all the post popular threads regardless of the forum they are presented in. Now that the DRATS topics will appear in it, I will stop using the feature.

mysterysinger
06-13-2018, 03:58 PM
Yeah I think a separate DRATS forum is a good idea. Containment brings contentment - at least to me. Who knows, I might even visit now and again.

Boogiedown
06-13-2018, 04:13 PM
At the risk of being a wet blanket , and a foreseerer of doom,
it would seem that all of the "Diana" and all of the "Mary" themed topics will still be in the Motown forum.

marv2
06-13-2018, 04:13 PM
Yeah I think a separate DRATS forum is a good idea. Containment brings contentment - at least to me. Who knows, I might even visit now and again.

At least now you can see the non-"Diana Ross", "Supremes - Free" threads much easier. LOL!!!!

snakepit
06-13-2018, 04:29 PM
Ralph suggests Drats, Supremes etc above..
So it seems ALL Supremes related posts in this dedicated forum. Seems sensible.

Boogiedown
06-13-2018, 04:34 PM
I see Diana and Mary threads being kept in the Motown forum. Some of them are the very threads that caused this ruckus

khansperac
06-13-2018, 04:58 PM
I donít understand the name of the forum, why canít it just be named the Supremes forum? I suspect the real issue here is some are annoyed at seeing the name Diana Ross so often, that is the real issue. Why not be men about it and be honest. Both Mary Wilson and Diana Ross have had long solo careers and post about them will still be in the Motown forum and should never be moved to a Diana Ross and the Supremes forum. If they do get moved it only will prove my point. So the reality of the matter is Little to nothing will change. Grown mens feelings about it will still be hurt.You are going to see a flurry of new threads posted and activity in the Motown forum to Prove this was a good decision and in time those threads will be like ghost towns. The only thing new is you will not be able to use DRATS as an excuse for why.

marv2
06-13-2018, 05:46 PM
I don’t understand the name of the forum, why can’t it just be named the Supremes forum? I suspect the real issue here is some are annoyed at seeing the name Diana Ross so often, that is the real issue. Why not be men about it and be honest. Both Mary Wilson and Diana Ross have had long solo careers and post about them will still be in the Motown forum and should never be moved to a Diana Ross and the Supremes forum. If they do get moved it only will prove my point. So the reality of the matter is Little to nothing will change. Grown mens feelings about it will still be hurt.You are going to see a flurry of new threads posted and activity in the Motown forum to Prove this was a good decision and in time those threads will be like ghost towns. The only thing new is you will not be able to use DRATS as an excuse for why.

No. Hopefully some of our former, veteran members will return to the forum. Thank you!

khansperac
06-13-2018, 05:54 PM
Those old folks ainít coming back and it has nothing to do with DRATS. No prejudice or ageism, but they are old and have better things to do with the time they have left. That has always been the go to excuse.

marv2
06-13-2018, 06:15 PM
Those old folks ain’t coming back and it has nothing to do with DRATS. No prejudice or ageism, but they are old and have better things to do with the time they have left. That has always been the go to excuse.

I for one think it will be very nice to sign onto the Forum and not have to see all of those "Diana Ross" threads cluttering up the place. Threads about her shopping, her grown kids, her pets etc,etc. LOL!

khansperac
06-13-2018, 06:21 PM
She left that group almost 40 years ago. Anything she or Mary Wilson are currently doing has nothing to do with that group. Can somebody please tell me what is a child forum?

snakepit
06-13-2018, 06:27 PM
Surely it makes sense for all Supremed, group and solo, to be posted in one forum?
What is so difficult about that?

khansperac
06-13-2018, 06:31 PM
That doesnít Make sense.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 06:51 PM
So what would you do with The Jackson 5?
Have threads about the group in a J5 forum...and solo threads in another forum?
Surely all J5 fans would welcome a 'home' for all related threads about their favourite group. Couldn't be simpler..but Supremes...commonsense goes out of the window.
If you post about Mary Wilson in the Drats forum , people can ignore it or respond....why does that have to be in the Motown or main SDF forum?

TomatoTom123
06-13-2018, 06:59 PM
So it actually happened then, and I was here to witness it! The forum looks so different!!!!! :D

I hope this will be a good thing! My only concern is that I may become less motivated to go into Diana Ross/Supremes threads, because they are in a separate section. But then again, this may have a positive effect on my mental stability and view of human nature, so eh :p

Roberta75
06-13-2018, 07:08 PM
So what would you do with The Jackson 5?
Have threads about the group in a J5 forum...and solo threads in another forum?
Surely all J5 fans would welcome a 'home' for all related threads about their favourite group. Couldn't be simpler..but Supremes...commonsense goes out of the window.
If you post about Mary Wilson in the Drats forum , people can ignore it or respond....why does that have to be in the Motown or main SDF forum?

Makes sense to me and if it stops me seeing or hearing another thread with another tinny version of that appalling disco mix of Time to Move on then im real happy. Onward and upwards.

snakepit
06-13-2018, 07:12 PM
She left that group almost 40 years ago. Anything she or Mary Wilson are currently doing has nothing to do with that group. Can somebody please tell me what is a child forum?

Using your own argument, how does anything DR or MW are currently doing have ANYTHING to do with a label they left many many years ago. Yet the Motown forum is clogged up with this stuff.
However on the specialist generic Supremes forum, all this stuff can be posted and the Motown forum can concentate on Motown related items.

soulster
06-13-2018, 08:28 PM
At least now you can see the non-"Diana Ross", "Supremes - Free" threads much easier. LOL!!!!

I see it as a test. How long can everyone behave? How will it be before the Mary Wilson and Diana Ross factions go at each others' throats?

soulster
06-13-2018, 08:31 PM
The DRATS people came here from Yahoo when all of those old groups kind of went defunct.

Will all the factions be able to get along without blaming you for the forum's woes now? LOL!

soulster
06-13-2018, 08:40 PM
1. Yes. No DRATs as the lineup was Jean, Mary and Cindy.

2. The Supremes: not the DRATs.

3. Florence Ballard's post-Motown attempts to forge a solo career.

Not seeing any drats, except "Drats, that pedantic fool is still trying to start something with me."

This post is an example of the kind of thing that will now be contained in the new section.

You can argue until the cows come home about what DRATS is, and, if i'm understanding Ralph, you can call names and bicker and he won't give a rat's ass. It's a new playground. Go at it!

marv2
06-13-2018, 08:46 PM
Will all the factions be able to get along without blaming you for the forum's woes now? LOL!


You know, they've been doing that for years. Well it's actually only the same 4-5 guys, but I digress. Every since I mentioned that I did not care for Diana Ross and did not think she was over and above all other artists I have been the "enemy" LOL! Should I go further? LOL!!!!

marv2
06-13-2018, 08:47 PM
So it actually happened then, and I was here to witness it! The forum looks so different!!!!! :D

I hope this will be a good thing! My only concern is that I may become less motivated to go into Diana Ross/Supremes threads, because they are in a separate section. But then again, this may have a positive effect on my mental stability and view of human nature, so eh :p

There is so much more to talk about than Diana Ross. This is a good thing. You'll see.

RanRan79
06-13-2018, 09:00 PM
I'm fine with this new move. It's not like anyone is being prevented from discussing the Supremes and their solo careers and other related topics. I think the cries about "people come to the forum and see a bunch of DRATS topics" are funny. Who comes to a Motown forum and is shocked to see a bunch of threads about it's most successful act? It's like someone complaining that they went to an Atlantic Records forum and thought there was a lot of Aretha talk over there. No shit Sherlock.

This move won't stop Supremes related discussions. It won't stop the bickering. The interesting thing will be, as someone mentioned previously, if the main Motown forum doesn't fire up with activity, what excuse will there be? This move is great if it's only accomplishment is to shut up the moans and groans about too much Supremes talk. We won't have to read it anymore because the folks who complain won't have to see it.

RanRan79
06-13-2018, 09:11 PM
Will all the factions be able to get along without blaming you for the forum's woes now? LOL!

That would be assuming that Mr. Nobody-Thinks-About-Diane-But-I-Post-About-Diane-All-the-Time wouldn't bother coming into the threads, but you know he'll still find his way into Ross threads. He'll still be one of the main Supremes posters. And he'll still post a million threads about Mary Wilson...and because of the way Ralph and Lowell have set it up, he'll have to come to the Supremes forum to post about Mary Wilson. This move will do nothing to stop the supposed attacks against He Who Shall Not Be Named nor will it stop the messy nonsense via him and some of the others. There's no hope here for civilized Supremes discussions unless everyone starts liberally using the ignore feature. And considering how often some of the same folks get into it with the same other folks, some folks obviously don't want to use the feature because they like the arguing.

RanRan79
06-13-2018, 09:12 PM
What I would have liked to see the mods do is put their foot down on some of the non music related topics. I love Diana Ross, but I've seen topics about her going to the grocery store. And while I'm a fan of Tracee and Evan's acting, I feel people stretch it by posting about them here. It would be nice if there was an edict to keep posts music related.

soulster
06-13-2018, 09:16 PM
I think the cries about "people come to the forum and see a bunch of DRATS topics" are funny. Who comes to a Motown forum and is shocked to see a bunch of threads about it's most successful act?

Ran,

Not everyone wants to talk about, or even likes DRATS. You may be shocked to know that if you look at the longevity, and consistent sales, The Temptations or Stevie Wonder may prove to be Motown's most popular in so many ways. And, the latter two are still making albums.

[QUOTE]This move won't stop Supremes related discussions.

It's not meant to. It's meant to contain it in one forum so that the other topics won't get drowned out, and the constant incivility will be contained.


It won't stop the bickering.

I don't think it will, either. I see it as a test.


The interesting thing will be, as someone mentioned previously, if the main Motown forum doesn't fire up with activity, what excuse will there be?

One goal is to make the overall forum a place where people not obsessed with all things DRATS, and the industry people can feel comfortable.


This move is great if it's only accomplishment is to shut up the moans and groans about too much Supremes talk. We won't have to read it anymore because the folks who complain won't have to see it.

Yup. And, they can peek in to see how everyone can behave, and not blame Marv for the world's problems anymore. If any animosity breaks out, they will have only themselves to blame.

soulster
06-13-2018, 09:21 PM
...and because of the way Ralph and Lowell have set it up, he'll have to come to the Supremes forum to post about Mary Wilson.

Exactly! Then you will be able to gauge if it's really him causing problems ow that he can remove himself from the situation, or if you guys aren't just using him as an excuse when you guys claw each other over Mary and Diana. Let's see how much of it is bashing Marv now. It's a test.

soulster
06-13-2018, 09:22 PM
What I would have liked to see the mods do is put their foot down on some of the non music related topics. I love Diana Ross, but I've seen topics about her going to the grocery store. And while I'm a fan of Tracee and Evan's acting, I feel people stretch it by posting about them here. It would be nice if there was an edict to keep posts music related.

Well, now anyone is free to post about what the ladies ate on March 15, 1966.

RanRan79
06-13-2018, 09:30 PM
Not everyone wants to talk about, or even likes DRATS. You may be shocked to know that if you look at the longevity, and consistent sales, The Temptations or Stevie Wonder may prove to be Motown's most popular in so many ways. And, the latter two are still making albums.

That's not my point, who wants to talk about them. My point is that you can't be surprised that they're being talked about in a Motown forum. On an Atlantic forum I'm sure there would be people coming to talk about Ray Charles or Ruth Brown or Wilson Pickett, but who would be surprised to come in and see a ton of posts about Aretha Franklin, whether they wanted to talk about her or not? It's logical. What should shock people is if they ever came to the Motown forum and saw a bunch of posts about Little Lisa. That would be the time to worry.:D


It's not meant to.

I know, that was my point. The mods aren't preventing anyone from talking Supremes so what's the fuss? I have an extra button click I have to do in order to get to the Supremes talk. Big deal.:rolleyes:

RanRan79
06-13-2018, 09:43 PM
Exactly! Then you will be able to gauge if it's really him causing problems ow that he can remove himself from the situation, or if you guys aren't just using him as an excuse when you guys claw each other over Mary and Diana. Let's see how much of it is bashing Marv now. It's a test.

Oh, it's really him. There's no doubt about that. The issue is that he isn't the only one. He Who Shall Not Be Named couldn't do this much damage on his own. There are several other posters [[some of whom are actually one person, I'm convinced) whose entire existence here is to do all the same stuff Mr. Nobody-Thinks-About-Diane-But-I-Post-About-Diane-All-the-Time does. They go into Mary Wilson threads and derail the conversation, not with constructive criticism but with comments they use to bait He Who Shall Not Be Named and a few others into a war of words. Ya know, the same shit Mr. Nobody-Thinks-About-Diane-But-I-Post-About-Diane-All-the-Time does.

You have to ask yourself why do you even see certain names in certain threads. The Eaten Alive thread was derailed [[rather briefly in comparison to the other derailments) by the issue you and I had, but mostly by the reactions to comments Mr. Nobody-Thinks-About-Diane-But-I-Post-About-Diane-All-the-Time was making [[and still making in that thread, btw). While he has as much right to his opinions as anyone else in this forum, when you make it a point to let everyone know how much disdain you have for a person, what would be your reason to enter the threads in the first place? It's like me going into a Beyonce thread. I don't have disdain for her, but I cringe at her popularity. [[There's literally a church devoted to worshiping her. While I suspect that various Diana Ross fans and at least one Mary Wilson fan has a worship corner or closet in their home devoted to worshiping these Supreme divas, we have yet to see the establishment of an actual religion.) I would have no reason to be in a thread devoted to Beyonce other than to criticize and antagonize. He Who Shall Not Be Named is a troll who for whatever reason is respected by some folks here. But I've said for a year now that as trollish as he is, he is not the only one. And some of the ones who complain about him crossing lines when it comes to Ross, do the same thing when it comes to Wilson.

Shit is crazy.

RanRan79
06-13-2018, 09:45 PM
Well, now anyone is free to post about what the ladies ate on March 15, 1966.

The problem is that they were free to post about that even before today.

TomatoTom123
06-13-2018, 09:58 PM
Who cares about what The Supremes ate for lunch on March 15, 1966?! The real discussion here is clearly about their breakfast on June 28, 1965. :p

RanRan79
06-13-2018, 10:08 PM
Who cares about what The Supremes ate for lunch on March 15, 1966?! The real discussion here is clearly about their breakfast on June 28, 1965. :p

Who are you to tell us what the real discussion is? You're just mad that we skipped right over that thread about what the Four Tops had as a late night snack on November 7, 1964. And for the record, there is no debate here. On March 15, 1966, Florence had a cheeseburger and fries, Mary had a hot dog with extra relish, and Diana skipped lunch in order to rehearse for their appearance at the Boom Boom Room that evening. And on June 28, 1965, for breakfast Florence had a bowl of cereal, Mary had a bowl of fruit, and Diana had a slice of her mama's bread with homemade jam [[see what I did there?). And on November 7, 1964 the Four Tops each had a slice of pie that Mary Wilson made for them. This is the truth. I know what I'm talking about. It's none of your business how I know. I am not required to reveal my sources. I only state the facts. Sorry if that pisses you off.:p

TheMotownManiac
06-13-2018, 10:38 PM
Everyone knows about the pie Mary Wilson served The Four Tops!

Bluebrock
06-14-2018, 02:11 AM
I for one think it will be very nice to sign onto the Forum and not have to see all of those "Diana Ross" threads cluttering up the place. Threads about her shopping, her grown kids, her pets etc,etc. LOL!
You are referring to "all of those Diana Ross threads cluttering up the place" that you continue to contribute to with alarming regularity? lol! You couldn't make this stuff up!

jobeterob
06-14-2018, 02:35 AM
What difference does any of this make beyond itís something else to chatter about?

Who really cares where the heck anything is? You found it before, youíll find it now.

Will it change any minds? Wii old posters come back?

No.

Life will likely go on for most of us.

I hear Marvin Gaye singing ďbut who really cares, whoís willing to try......Ē

soulster
06-14-2018, 03:39 AM
Who are you to tell us what the real discussion is? You're just mad that we skipped right over that thread about what the Four Tops had as a late night snack on November 7, 1964. And for the record, there is no debate here. On March 15, 1966, Florence had a cheeseburger and fries, Mary had a hot dog with extra relish, and Diana skipped lunch in order to rehearse for their appearance at the Boom Boom Room that evening. And on June 28, 1965, for breakfast Florence had a bowl of cereal, Mary had a bowl of fruit, and Diana had a slice of her mama's bread with homemade jam [[see what I did there?). And on November 7, 1964 the Four Tops each had a slice of pie that Mary Wilson made for them. This is the truth. I know what I'm talking about. It's none of your business how I know. I am not required to reveal my sources. I only state the facts. Sorry if that pisses you off.:p

Yeah? What about when Stevie Wonder invited everyone to Levi Stubbs' house on Thanksgiving and insisted on deep-frying the turkey himself? Almost burned himself, and the house down! Well, he wasn't gonna risk his own house!

soulster
06-14-2018, 03:42 AM
You are referring to "all of those Diana Ross threads cluttering up the place" that you continue to contribute to with alarming regularity? lol! You couldn't make this stuff up!

After the novelty of the new playground...uh...wrestling ring dies down, i'm sure a lot of us will rarely wander in here.

milven
06-14-2018, 10:11 AM
After the novelty of the new playground...uh...wrestling ring dies down, i'm sure a lot of us will rarely wander in here.

I'm surprised to see some of the members, who were complaining that SD needed a seperate place for Supremes worshippers to post, are posting in here now.

Wasn't the purpose of the seperation to avoid these posts?

snakepit
06-14-2018, 11:26 AM
No, the purpose was to protect the other forums on here, namely Motown and Soulful Detroit.
It will be very interesting to see how much the regular contributors in this Supremes forum visit and participate in Motown and SDF. I suspect hardly any involvement at all, proving that they only have an interest in Ross/Supremes and very little in Motown , or other Soul music.
Yet the Motown forum was swamped with it, and SDF would have gone the same way.

Looking forward to The Supremres sing HDH when it's available.....

soulster
06-14-2018, 12:26 PM
I'm surprised to see some of the members, who were complaining that SD needed a seperate place for Supremes worshippers to post, are posting in here now.

Wasn't the purpose of the seperation to avoid these posts?

No. The purposes are to prevent the constant fights from contaminating the other threads and forums, and to keep the multitude of DRATS threads from overwhelming the forum. So far, there has been a correction, and we are seeing more non-DRATS threads becoming prominent, and not sinking under the weight of DRATS threads.

As for my, or anyone else's participation in this DRATS forum, no one is prohibited from posting anywhere on the site, except that all DRATS-related posts and threads must be contained in this area.

I still have an interest in DRATS new releases, like "The Supremes Sing Holland Dozier Holland" that's coming up. I'm as excited as you are about it. I enjoy "The Supremes-A-Go-Go" set.

I never had anything against the DRATS fans, except for their extreme obsessive nature that took over the overall forum, and the stupid fights that broke out everywhere.

I think you will see with this new place is that the things or people you thought were enemies, or antagonistic, aren't really, unless they resort to the same wallowing in the mud. And, I can tell by the avoidance of even mentioning certain names by some members, that they could also be the problem. But, whatever...the way I read Ralph's comments yesterday is that people could fight all they want to in here and he won't care. That tells me that he isn't going to moderate this room. So, if something does break out, it's knock-down and drag-out, baby! I'm going to show you guys that I am not like that and was never the problem. I am a lone wolf in this site. I do not belong to any of the cliques, and don't want to. I do not side with any group or individual. Any similar opinions with anyone are purely a coincidence. I think and post for myself.

Like I said, once the newness wears off, I think the only people who will post up in here will be the hard-core DRATS fans. No complaining to Ralph if a fight happens.

One interesting side effect is that I can unignore some people now.

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 02:02 PM
You found it before, you’ll find it now.

My sentiments exactly. There's a lot of crying going on about this, as if the extra click is a real inconvenience. I've been a part of forums with this set up before. I actually think it would be a good idea to separate the biggest Motown acts into their own sub forums. It's makes it easier for people to find posts specifically about those artists, as opposed to using the search feature which brings up any mention of the keyword, whether the artists is the subject of the thread or not.

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 02:05 PM
Yeah? What about when Stevie Wonder invited everyone to Levi Stubbs' house on Thanksgiving and insisted on deep-frying the turkey himself? Almost burned himself, and the house down! Well, he wasn't gonna risk his own house!

As always, you have your facts wrong. It wasn't Levi's house, it was Obie's. And it wasn't Stevie, it was Ray Charles. I told you I know all of this because somebody told me.:p

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 02:08 PM
And, I can tell by the avoidance of even mentioning certain names by some members, that they could also be the problem.

So before I make an assumption and unravel the strides we've made since our "let bygones be bygones" exchange, I would like to ask you to confirm or deny that I am who you speak of in this instance, for my refusal to type a certain members name?

soulster
06-14-2018, 02:15 PM
As always, you have your facts wrong. It wasn't Levi's house, it was Obie's. And it wasn't Stevie, it was Ray Charles. I told you I know all of this because somebody told me.:p

No, my facts are correct. You're as blind as a bat with your info. Who told you that? Stevie? I know what's true because Ronnie Milsap and Clarence Carter were there! So there!:) And, if you want further proof, i'll get Jose Feliciano!

soulster
06-14-2018, 02:19 PM
So before I make an assumption and unravel the strides we've made since our "let bygones be bygones" exchange, I would like to ask you to confirm or deny that I am who you speak of in this instance, for my refusal to type a certain members name?

Actually, I was thinking about someone else. But I do wonder why you go in such a roundabout way to avoid his name.

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 03:29 PM
Actually, I was thinking about someone else. But I do wonder why you go in such a roundabout way to avoid his name.

Gotcha. As for the name, I just feel like if you type it too many times, he'll either appear in a mirror like Bloody Mary [[not to be confused with Wilson) or you'll never get rid of him, like Beetlejuice. But seriously, while he is the only one I reference with a nickname [[which only began in the Eaten Alive thread), he isn't the only one I refuse to mention by name. He has two Rosser counterparts that I feel the exact same way about.

soulster
06-14-2018, 04:07 PM
Gotcha. As for the name, I just feel like if you type it too many times, he'll either appear in a mirror like Bloody Mary [[not to be confused with Wilson) or you'll never get rid of him, like Beetlejuice. But seriously, while he is the only one I reference with a nickname [[which only began in the Eaten Alive thread), he isn't the only one I refuse to mention by name. He has two Rosser counterparts that I feel the exact same way about.

Well, I don't like any of 'em!:p Gimme some testosterone-fueled singers for a change!

Boogiedown
06-14-2018, 04:40 PM
Maybe another subforum should be added called
The Hen House.

midnightman
06-14-2018, 05:56 PM
So what would you do with The Jackson 5?
Have threads about the group in a J5 forum...and solo threads in another forum?
Surely all J5 fans would welcome a 'home' for all related threads about their favourite group. Couldn't be simpler..but Supremes...commonsense goes out of the window.
If you post about Mary Wilson in the Drats forum , people can ignore it or respond....why does that have to be in the Motown or main SDF forum?

The Jackson 5 fans/MJ fans took ONE look at the forum, saw about every thread about the Supremes and said "EFF THIS, I'M OUT!"

midnightman
06-14-2018, 05:57 PM
I'm surprised to see some of the members, who were complaining that SD needed a seperate place for Supremes worshippers to post, are posting in here now.

Wasn't the purpose of the seperation to avoid these posts?

People just LOVE to complain. Ralph and Lowell did the right thing here and Supremes stans need to CALM DOWN or LEAVE if they don't like what they're doing.

TomatoTom123
06-14-2018, 07:02 PM
So before I make an assumption and unravel the strides we've made since our "let bygones be bygones" exchange, I would like to ask you to confirm or deny that I am who you speak of in this instance, for my refusal to type a certain members name?


Actually, I was thinking about someone else. But I do wonder why you go in such a roundabout way to avoid his name.

Lol for a minute there I thought all RanRan-soulster hell was about to break loose :p

thanxal
06-14-2018, 07:14 PM
Lol for a minute there I thought all RanRan-soulster hell was about to break loose :p
Ridicule is the greatest tool.

TomatoTom123
06-14-2018, 07:16 PM
As always, you have your facts wrong. It wasn't Levi's house, it was Obie's. And it wasn't Stevie, it was Ray Charles. I told you I know all of this because somebody told me.:p

Oh please RanRan. I wonder if you will ever stop with this blatant misinformation. Everyone knows that the real dispute emerged surrounding the day's desert. If you need specifics, it was the selection of cakes on offer. And if you need evidence, James Brown made a mini documentary about the whole thing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxUm01KcnLQ

thanxal
06-14-2018, 07:18 PM
People just LOVE to complain. Ralph and Lowell did the right thing here and Supremes stans need to CALM DOWN or LEAVE if they don't like what they're doing.
MM, they did leave about 18 months ago. Formed their own trashheap of a forum. It failed. They came back here to stir up trouble. The result is the DRATS ghetto. If that's what it takes to isolate them, then so be it. Ralph and Lowell must be at their wit's end. I know I was when I had to deal with this crap as an admin [edit: on another site with completely different topic].

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 07:51 PM
The Jackson 5 fans/MJ fans took ONE look at the forum, saw about every thread about the Supremes and said "EFF THIS, I'M OUT!"

And that's what I don't get, if this was indeed the situation. Take my love of the Supremes out of the equation, if I came here and saw a bunch of Supremes threads and I wanted to talk the J5, I would just create J5 threads. People keep complaining "too many Supremes threads", as if the only people with access to thread creation are Supremes fans. For awhile Midnight you were posting a lot of threads of performances and songs from just about every era of Motown. And for many of those threads it would just be you, myself, probably Tom, and maybe one or two others. Where was everyone who complains that it's Supremes Central 24/7? Ignoring the bickering, which I fully recognize disrupts the atmosphere here, but I feel like much of this anti Supremes thread sentiment is a result of some people's personal taste about the group, and it's famous lead singer in particular, than it is some legit gripe about a preponderance of threads about one act [[and it's singers). Somehow I doubt too many threads about the Temptations would ever be something you read in this forum, even if it were true. Mind you the last Tempts thread only had like 5 or 6 responses. So much for folks jumping at the chance to talk about the Tempts.

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 07:54 PM
Lol for a minute there I thought all RanRan-soulster hell was about to break loose :p

Aren't you glad it didn't? And let this be a lesson to you boys and girls: always ask for clarity if you're unsure and never assume. Had I popped off on the assumption that Soulster was referring to me only to find out he wasn't, I would've looked like an idiot. Or as I like to call it, being a Tom.:p;)

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 07:56 PM
Oh please RanRan. I wonder if you will ever stop with this blatant misinformation. Everyone knows that the real dispute emerged surrounding the day's desert. If you need specifics, it was the selection of cakes on offer. And if you need evidence, James Brown made a mini documentary about the whole thing.


Precedence was set in this forum long ago that video is not evidence of anything. I know what I know and you can believe what you want!!

RanRan79
06-14-2018, 07:58 PM
MM, they did leave about 18 months ago. Formed their own trashheap of a forum. It failed. They came back here to stir up trouble. The result is the DRATS ghetto. If that's what it takes to isolate them, then so be it. Ralph and Lowell must be at their wit's end. I know I was when I had to deal with this crap as an admin [edit: on another site with completely different topic].

Is that what happened? Is some of this we're seeing a result of the gang who had tried to cause some trouble last year and trying to get people to go over to the other site? Makes sense.

midnightman
06-14-2018, 10:32 PM
Who cares about what The Supremes ate for lunch on March 15, 1966?! The real discussion here is clearly about their breakfast on June 28, 1965. :p

FORGET what the Supremes put on their bacon, eggs and cheese, I wanna know what Marvin Gaye ate on March 5, 1967! LOL

midnightman
06-14-2018, 10:35 PM
And that's what I don't get, if this was indeed the situation. Take my love of the Supremes out of the equation, if I came here and saw a bunch of Supremes threads and I wanted to talk the J5, I would just create J5 threads. People keep complaining "too many Supremes threads", as if the only people with access to thread creation are Supremes fans. For awhile Midnight you were posting a lot of threads of performances and songs from just about every era of Motown. And for many of those threads it would just be you, myself, probably Tom, and maybe one or two others. Where was everyone who complains that it's Supremes Central 24/7? Ignoring the bickering, which I fully recognize disrupts the atmosphere here, but I feel like much of this anti Supremes thread sentiment is a result of some people's personal taste about the group, and it's famous lead singer in particular, than it is some legit gripe about a preponderance of threads about one act [[and it's singers). Somehow I doubt too many threads about the Temptations would ever be something you read in this forum, even if it were true. Mind you the last Tempts thread only had like 5 or 6 responses. So much for folks jumping at the chance to talk about the Tempts.

Most of the anti-Supremes sentiments had to do with the number of replies in those threads that seem to go ON AND ON AND ON... and it makes those who tolerated the group to someone who was a fan of 'em to be like "the Supremes weren't really all that" [[even if they don't really believe that). Just to see if it'll piss 'em off.

There were times in the past that I was like "Martha and the Vandellas are far better than the Supremes" and then I'd get the heck out of Dodge lol

I didn't bother to see the response lmao

detmotownguy
06-14-2018, 11:15 PM
Ur right Marv lol!

Coppelia-Birdsong
06-15-2018, 12:31 AM
Ugh. Crybullies are the worst. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

I'm just going to block this snakepit person and ignore him from now on, he was bad enough when he was going out of his way to insult me for things I didn't even post, now he has the nerve to whine and act the victim. I come to this place to have fun and chat with people. I only like red meat on a very rare occasion: I really have to be in the mood for a good steak and only have it once or twice a year. The point is, people like snakepit need to take their beef elsewhere, especially since they got their wish in a seperate DRATs forum and they are still pouting and being snottily passive aggressive.

Like seriously, this whole mess started because I accidentally posted a Supremes topic in the non-Motown thread, and this person has not left me alone since, claiming I will personally destroy this forum with my DRATs obsession and drive everyone away.... they get the forum they wouldn't shut up about.... and they are still complaining. Like, how do you go through life when you are that impossible to please? How about a thank you to the mods instead of more moaning?

midnightman
06-15-2018, 02:09 AM
^ Eh, you didn't do anything wrong. You just didn't know that the rules were different at first lol

Like I just told Albator, people get way too emotional [[and involved) in this forum for some odd reason as if the Supremes were their cousins or something.

soulster
06-15-2018, 03:36 AM
Lol for a minute there I thought all RanRan-soulster hell was about to break loose :p

No, that's the kind of thing we want to avoid, and to show that we are not the problem children on this forum.

soulster
06-15-2018, 03:40 AM
And if you need evidence, James Brown made a mini documentary about the whole thing.


Haw man! Those aren't the kind of cakes he was talkin' about! He's talkin' poundcake!

soulster
06-15-2018, 03:52 AM
And that's what I don't get, if this was indeed the situation. Take my love of the Supremes out of the equation, if I came here and saw a bunch of Supremes threads and I wanted to talk the J5, I would just create J5 threads. People keep complaining "too many Supremes threads", as if the only people with access to thread creation are Supremes fans. For awhile Midnight you were posting a lot of threads of performances and songs from just about every era of Motown. And for many of those threads it would just be you, myself, probably Tom, and maybe one or two others. Where was everyone who complains that it's Supremes Central 24/7? Ignoring the bickering, which I fully recognize disrupts the atmosphere here, but I feel like much of this anti Supremes thread sentiment is a result of some people's personal taste about the group, and it's famous lead singer in particular, than it is some legit gripe about a preponderance of threads about one act [[and it's singers). Somehow I doubt too many threads about the Temptations would ever be something you read in this forum, even if it were true. Mind you the last Tempts thread only had like 5 or 6 responses. So much for folks jumping at the chance to talk about the Tempts.

But, Ran, you do have to make distinctions between casual fans, hardcore fans, and obsessive fans, and the obsessive ones lose objectivity when it comes to how many DRATS threads there are. Some may think that it is most of the forum when it's not. There may be one or two of the obsessive ones that want to turn the entire SDF forum into a DRATS forum, and Ralph's not havin' it. Meanwhile, there are music fans like me who do like some DRATS/Diana Ross music, but are not obsessed with it. We like the music, but that's it. It's not our favorite.

And, then there are the DRATS fans that are so over the top that they probably do have shrines in their bedrooms and try to dress in gowns just like they did, and spend every minute of their lives thinking about them. These guys need some intense therapy.

snakepit
06-15-2018, 03:56 AM
Any insults were made by Birdsong..go and read the threads. I asked Ralph to remove 3. [[ not 1 by mistake) Supremes threads he/she had stated in the SD forum.
I pointed out to him/her that these posts should be contained in the Motown forum.
His/her response was to be hysterical.


I have not made any comments since to him/her.....but he /she lies about that.

soulster
06-15-2018, 03:59 AM
Is that what happened? Is some of this we're seeing a result of the gang who had tried to cause some trouble last year and trying to get people to go over to the other site? Makes sense.

You know, along with what thanxsal said, it's a wonder why these guys can't find something better to do with their time than to try to disrupt legit forums and take them over. Along with what someone else told me years ago, they were really trying to make SDF a DRATS forum, and their secondary mission was to drive a certain Marv out.

If they were serious about starting their own DRATS forum, they would shell out the money for the software, domain, server, and appoint some real moderation.

soulster
06-15-2018, 04:00 AM
FORGET what the Supremes put on their bacon, eggs and cheese, I wanna know what Marvin Gaye ate on March 5, 1967! LOL You want to know who he ate...oh..wait...:)

TomatoTom123
06-15-2018, 04:08 AM
Aren't you glad it didn't? And let this be a lesson to you boys and girls: always ask for clarity if you're unsure and never assume. Had I popped off on the assumption that Soulster was referring to me only to find out he wasn't, I would've looked like an idiot. Or as I like to call it, being a Tom.:p;)

Haaaaaa, that is sooooooo rude :p

TomatoTom123
06-15-2018, 04:10 AM
And for many of those threads it would just be you, myself, probably Tom, and maybe one or two others.

Ayyyyyyyyy shoutout :D

soulster
06-15-2018, 04:12 AM
Like seriously, this whole mess started because I accidentally posted a Supremes topic in the non-Motown thread, and this person has not left me alone since, claiming I will personally destroy this forum with my DRATs obsession and drive everyone away.... they get the forum they wouldn't shut up about.... and they are still complaining. Like, how do you go through life when you are that impossible to please? How about a thank you to the mods instead of more moaning?

Hi,

Seriously, NONE of this is because of where you posted something. This is a problem that's been going on for at least a decade now. You are relatively new here so you wouldn't know the very long history we have had with the extreme DRATS fans here, and Marv.

From what I have been told, years and years ago, Marv said something homophobic on another forum, and that set the DRATS fans off, and it spilled over here to SDF when their Yahoo forum got shut down. Ever since then, it has been open warfare on Marv, and an attempt to disrupt this place until Ralph banned him. Since Ralph never banned him, they are hell-bent on destroying this place to punish him. So, it has nothing to do with you or what you did.

As for snakepit, he is a forum elder like I am. His primary interests are like mine. We both like to talk about, and read about how things were recorded, and he is a bit of an expert in that area where it concerns Motown. He often comes up with some interesting threads and questions. I have never known him to be a mean guy. I do believe he has just gotten fed up with all the DRATS crap that has been ruining this forum for years. We used to have industry heavyweights here, people who worked on all that Motown music we all love. Now they are long gone because of the mess. This is why Ralph decided to give the DRATS fans a place of their own so the rest of the forum wouldn't be ruined.

I need to add that there are some nice DRATS fans in here. They are civil and friendly, and only love their favorite singers. The people causing the war are two or three people, and I heard that one of them may be posting under aliases.

TomatoTom123
06-15-2018, 04:14 AM
Precedence was set in this forum long ago that video is not evidence of anything. I know what I know and you can believe what you want!!

Ok, I think we all know who is more trustworthy, Mr-I-Don't-Use-Real-Names-And-It-Must-Take-Ages-For-Me-To-Type-Out-These-Long-Ass-Hyphen-Names. :p

edit: wow, it does

edit two: I enjoy them so don't stop :)

TomatoTom123
06-15-2018, 04:15 AM
Haw man! Those aren't the kind of cakes he was talkin' about! He's talkin' poundcake!


poundcake lol

snakepit
06-15-2018, 04:50 AM
For clarity.

I did not request a Supremes forum. I did that over 10 years ago but it didn't happen. I have long since given up on that idea, so I have accepted that these posts resided in Motown forum.

The SD Forum has been free of these posts, and a recent flurry of Supremes thread in SDF [[3- three, not 1) in a matter of days suggested to me that, in not carefully managed, this forum would attract the overkill of Supremes threads, and potentially ruin the SDF.
I asked Ralph to transfer them to Motown.
I have long since lost interest in the number of Supremes post in Motown topics.

All the correspondence regarding this is clearly on this website.
I have not continued any correspondences with Birdsong....Ralph can investigate and take action against me ...but he will not find any posts as they don't exists.
Only in Birdsong's mind.

snakepit
06-15-2018, 06:20 AM
Ugh. Crybullies are the worst. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

I'm just going to block this snakepit person and ignore him from now on, he was bad enough when he was going out of his way to insult me for things I didn't even post, now he has the nerve to whine and act the victim. I come to this place to have fun and chat with people. I only like red meat on a very rare occasion: I really have to be in the mood for a good steak and only have it once or twice a year. The point is, people like snakepit need to take their beef elsewhere, especially since they got their wish in a seperate DRATs forum and they are still pouting and being snottily passive aggressive.

Like seriously, this whole mess started because I accidentally posted a Supremes topic in the non-Motown thread, and this person has not left me alone since, claiming I will personally destroy this forum with my DRATs obsession and drive everyone away.... they get the forum they wouldn't shut up about.... and they are still complaining. Like, how do you go through life when you are that impossible to please? How about a thank you to the mods instead of more moaning?

Birdsong
You have made several untruestatements above.
I have not been in any contact with you since the initial posts or hounded you at all.
I have reported this thread to Ralph.

soulster
06-15-2018, 08:42 AM
Reported this thread? Good luck. Maybe he'll lock it. Maybe not. I don't see any nasty stuff in this thread, and, if you look, this thread is in the DRATS section, so...

RanRan79
06-15-2018, 10:08 AM
Most of the anti-Supremes sentiments had to do with the number of replies in those threads that seem to go ON AND ON AND ON... and it makes those who tolerated the group to someone who was a fan of 'em to be like "the Supremes weren't really all that" [[even if they don't really believe that). Just to see if it'll piss 'em off.

There were times in the past that I was like "Martha and the Vandellas are far better than the Supremes" and then I'd get the heck out of Dodge lol

I didn't bother to see the response lmao

I'm glad you evolved Midnight. You was on some troll shit doing that. Lol

But it does illustrate how weird some of these fans get about these things. I couldn't give two shits about anyone's opinion regarding the Motown girl groups. Not that I don't appreciate reading different view points [[as long as they are respectful), but someone's opinion of any given group is not going to change my opinion of said group. Same thing with opinions about solo singers. If someone doesn't like Diana Ross, or Marvin Gaye or any of my other favs, big deal. How does that stop me from loving them? How does it prevent me from talking about them?

Makes no sense, some of the things that get people riled around here.

midnightman
06-15-2018, 10:19 AM
Any insults were made by Birdsong..go and read the threads. I asked Ralph to remove 3. [[ not 1 by mistake) Supremes threads he/she had stated in the SD forum.
I pointed out to him/her that these posts should be contained in the Motown forum.
His/her response was to be hysterical.


I have not made any comments since to him/her.....but he /she lies about that.

I hadn't gone all over the thread like that [[I just speed-read lol) but you may be right...

midnightman
06-15-2018, 10:22 AM
I'm glad you evolved Midnight. You was on some troll shit doing that. Lol

But it does illustrate how weird some of these fans get about these things. I couldn't give two shits about anyone's opinion regarding the Motown girl groups. Not that I don't appreciate reading different view points [[as long as they are respectful), but someone's opinion of any given group is not going to change my opinion of said group. Same thing with opinions about solo singers. If someone doesn't like Diana Ross, or Marvin Gaye or any of my other favs, big deal. How does that stop me from loving them? How does it prevent me from talking about them?

Makes no sense, some of the things that get people riled around here.

OH I was a mess back then. I was just as bad as some folks still are now [[naming no names lmao). But yeah, that's just weird. Like if you don't like somebody, just don't enter that thread. People must be sadists because they constantly go to threads on artists they claim they can't stand.

RanRan79
06-15-2018, 10:26 AM
From what I have been told, years and years ago, Marv said something homophobic on another forum, and that set the DRATS fans off, and it spilled over here to SDF when their Yahoo forum got shut down. Ever since then, it has been open warfare on Marv, and an attempt to disrupt this place until Ralph banned him. Since Ralph never banned him, they are hell-bent on destroying this place to punish him.

Believe it or not, I can believe this. Like I said before, He Who Shall Not Be Named causes problems around here but he isn't the only one. And there have been times when it's clear that no matter what he says, someone comes after him. And some on the opposing side appear to be quite irrational. But He Who Shall Not Be Named does himself no favors by being equally irrational.


I need to add that there are some nice DRATS fans in here. They are civil and friendly, and only love their favorite singers. The people causing the war are two or three people, and I heard that one of them may be posting under aliases.

I think most people in the forum are civil, friendly, rational posters. It is most definitely a minority who are quick with the insults or quick with inflammatory statements that they know people will react to. Misunderstandings happen, of course, but I'm referring to the "there's no mistake about it...you trying to start some shit" posts. Lol And there are a few who fit that profile. And it's been theorized before that a lot of the goings on are really just a couple of people posting under aliases and arguing with themselves. I think it'll be interesting if Ralph ever bans IP addresses, which posters will suddenly have "Banned" appearing under their names. I have my suspicions about which ones would show up this way.

ralpht
06-15-2018, 10:27 AM
So, I've spent the morning reading over this thread. Once again; let me clarify. This particular forum has been created to represent ALL things Supreme. I don't care if Brittany Spears was once a Supreme[[if you can imagine that) I wouldn't want to see her name in any other forum but this one. I realized there would be a few mis- posts at first and I simply moved them to DRATS. Please don't expect me to moderate any fights that may occur here. Its your forum. Do with it what you will. I would love to see this turn into a most informative forum. We shall see. For now; I'm out of it.



Birdsong, I wish you would tone it down a bit. Snake has been a valued member here for more years than I can remember.

RanRan79
06-15-2018, 10:27 AM
Ok, I think we all know who is more trustworthy, Mr-I-Don't-Use-Real-Names-And-It-Must-Take-Ages-For-Me-To-Type-Out-These-Long-Ass-Hyphen-Names. :p

edit: wow, it does

edit two: I enjoy them so don't stop :)

This gave me the first great laugh of the day. Thanks Tom!!

midnightman
06-15-2018, 10:31 AM
It's only been a couple of folks who have been acting a fool but since their posts got the most attention, that left the rest of us being put into that circle and that ain't fair.

snakepit
06-15-2018, 10:43 AM
Reported this thread? Good luck. Maybe he'll lock it. Maybe not. I don't see any nasty stuff in this thread, and, if you look, this thread is in the DRATS section, so...

Reported because Birdsong implied I have been making posts about him/ her

I have done no such thing

100% lies.

RanRan79
06-15-2018, 10:54 AM
It's only been a couple of folks who have been acting a fool but since their posts got the most attention, that left the rest of us being put into that circle and that ain't fair.

Agreed, but no use crying over spilled milk. Hopefully this will help weed out the trouble makers and the rest of us can concentrate on the music.

TomatoTom123
06-15-2018, 07:24 PM
This gave me the first great laugh of the day. Thanks Tom!!

A-thank-you! That's what I'm here for and you know it Ran :p:p:p:p:p

soulster
06-18-2018, 02:40 PM
Hopefully this will help weed out the trouble makers and the rest of us can concentrate on the music.

It's already starting to work. I pop in here just to see how things are going.