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midnightman
04-25-2018, 01:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrDaO8giv4

BigAl
04-25-2018, 09:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDBi7sGI_Os

jobucats
04-25-2018, 09:30 AM
Both are excellent, individualistic approaches. Thanks to midnightman and BigAl for sharing these.

captainjames
04-25-2018, 10:57 AM
Love them both...don't have the albums in front of me right now but sounds like an Ashford and Simpson tune.

motony
04-25-2018, 11:25 AM
Yes, Ashford & Simpson & would have been a huge hit by Martha, also from the same LP "It Ain't Like That" would have been the great follow up hit.

midnightman
04-25-2018, 11:43 AM
A&S could write the doggone telephone book and it would smash. That's how great their songs were.

Both Martha & Diana sizzled with these versions of this song. But I prefer Ross. :)

BigAl
04-25-2018, 12:43 PM
So many of those earlier Ashford/Simpson songs/arrangements were almost manically paced, pushing the music along relentlessly. I think the first of their Jobete songs I noticed was "Starting the Hurt All Over Again," by Brenda Holloway, which was the B-side to "Just Look What You've Done," and it was every bit as good. Then came Marvin & Tammi's "Ain't No Mountain," DRATS' "Some things You Never Get Used To," and other songs like "I'm A Winner," which also raced along. I liked a little of that, but was glad to see them expand their style shortly thereafter. "Reach Out and Touch" was quite different from all that fast-paced stuff. They really did hit their stride once paired with Ross, and their reworking of "Ain't No Mountain" for her was, of course, stupendous.

captainjames
04-25-2018, 05:56 PM
WOW I remember "It Ain't That".....can't believe its like that....
Thanks for reminding me of that song. Now I got to find that LP.


Yes, Ashford & Simpson & would have been a huge hit by Martha, also from the same LP "It Ain't Like That" would have been the great follow up hit.

captainjames
04-25-2018, 05:59 PM
There were a couple of songs on the "Black Magic" album that A & S scored with as well.
"Running in and out of my Life" ? was one that comes to mind. A&S were magical to Diana and Martha.


So many of those earlier Ashford/Simpson songs/arrangements were almost manically paced, pushing the music along relentlessly. I think the first of their Jobete songs I noticed was "Starting the Hurt All Over Again," by Brenda Holloway, which was the B-side to "Just Look What You've Done," and it was every bit as good. Then came Marvin & Tammi's "Ain't No Mountain," DRATS' "Some things You Never Get Used To," and other songs like "I'm A Winner," which also raced along. I liked a little of that, but was glad to see them expand their style shortly thereafter. "Reach Out and Touch" was quite different from all that fast-paced stuff. They really did hit their stride once paired with Ross, and their reworking of "Ain't No Mountain" for her was, of course, stupendous.

PeaceNHarmony
04-25-2018, 07:35 PM
I can't pick a favorite; both are superb versions of a great song. I'd love someone to make a mashup of the two -

reese
04-25-2018, 09:12 PM
There were a couple of songs on the "Black Magic" album that A & S scored with as well.
"Running in and out of my Life" ? was one that comes to mind. A&S were magical to Diana and Martha.

"Tear It On Down" was the only A&S production on BLACK MAGIC. "In And Out Of My Life" was done by George Gordy and Lawrence Brown.

daviddesper
04-25-2018, 11:21 PM
I vastly prefer Martha's I'm a Winner to Diana's. The piano does it for me!

midnightman
04-25-2018, 11:45 PM
"Tear It On Down" was the only A&S production on BLACK MAGIC. "In And Out Of My Life" was done by George Gordy and Lawrence Brown.

I loved Martha's version of TIOD but I think Marvin's did it more justice. Just my onion [[opinion).

RanRan79
04-27-2018, 10:29 AM
I like Diana's version, Martha's is cool but I prefer Ross'. Ashford and Simpson don't get the credit they deserve for their productions IMO.