Black Trump supporter escorted out of Trump Rally

[marv2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3887156/Get-Trumps-mistakes-black-supporter-protester-rally-kicks-out.html



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWqVFlbTag4

[soulster]

Almost every Trump Supporter I have run into are nasty people and seem to be racists.

Did you read my thread appealing to the non-racist ones?
http://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?17661-Donald-Trump-supporters-Think-long-and-hard-before-you-cast-your-vote

[marv2]

Almost every Trump Supporter I have run into are nasty people and seem to be racists.

Did you read my thread appealing to the non-racist ones?
http://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?17661-Donald-Trump-supporters-Think-long-and-hard-before-you-cast-your-vote

I'll check it out. The ones I know will not admit it. They are voting for him only because he is a Republican and will not talk about it. There are millions out there like that which is scary.

[arr&bee]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...that's what that fool gets for following a fool!!

[marv2]

This is why Trump could win!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwsdj5p8KEY

[marv2]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...that's what that fool gets for following a fool!!

Donald Trump is his idol!

[arr&bee]

He's probobly got a picture of[robert e.lee]hangin in his den...sad!!

[arr&bee]

this is why trump could win!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwsdj5p8keyi wanna laugh but it ain't funny when you think about what could happen if it came down to these folks,heck even duufuss knows that nixon is dead!!

[MotownSteve]

After reading this I have no choice in who to vote for. Not that I ever did.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/10/clinton_vs_trump_whose_crimes_are_worse.html?wpsrc =sh_all_dt_tw_bot

[TomatoTom123]

After reading this I have no choice in who to vote for. Not that I ever did.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/10/clinton_vs_trump_whose_crimes_are_worse.html?wpsrc =sh_all_dt_tw_bot

WOW, LOL!!! I got to about 60 before I checked how many there were left - only 170 more!

[soulster]

This is why Trump could win!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwsdj5p8KEY
This is why the public scares me. They are so fucking ignorant! Are our friends in the U.K. and Canada understanding this?

[marv2]

This is why the public scares me. They are so fucking ignorant! Are our friends in the U.K. and Canada understanding this?

Look, I am telling you. These are not actors and there are millions in this country like this. I could never have the conversations like we have here with just random members of the American public. They don't have a clue and do not care for one.

[soulster]

Look, I am telling you. These are not actors and there are millions in this country like this. I could never have the conversations like we have here with just random members of the American public. They don't have a clue and do not care for one. Oh, I believe you! I deal with the public every day, and it isn't just twentysomethings that are ignorant. The people in their 50s, 60s, and 70s are no better, and they should know better!

[marv2]

Oh, I believe you! I deal with the public every day, and it isn't just twentysomethings that are ignorant. The people in their 50s, 60s, and 70s are no better, and they should know better!

The media characterizes them as "Middle America". Since the dumbing down of America began approx 30 years ago ,we are seeing this as being the way mainstream Americans are!

[marv2]

These are the people that still believe that the "Trickle Down Theory" will work as long as we throw others off of welfare. It has not work from the moment Reagan presented it to the country back in the 80s.

[MotownSteve]

I partly blame George W for legitimizing mediocrity. Some we have Reagan doing a job one the economy and W on education. Let's home we don't find out what tRump does. [[other than loosing, I hope and wish.)

[TomatoTom123]

These are the people that still believe that the "Trickle Down Theory" will work as long as we throw others off of welfare. It has not work from the moment Reagan presented it to the country back in the 80s.

Yes, Marv!! The "Trickle Down Effect" makes absolutely no sense in and of itself, it's shameful that the economy was/is run like this. If the rich have the wealth and success how on earth will it naturally trickle down to the less fortunate??!!

[Jerry Oz]

These are the people that still believe that the "Trickle Down Theory" will work as long as we throw others off of welfare. It has not work from the moment Reagan presented it to the country back in the 80s.
Marv, there are more millionaires and billionaires than ever but they still say they need tax breaks to invest in jobs. All new money goes straight to the top and few new jobs are created. Trickle down economics never worked because it was only ever designed to give more to those who already have too much.

[TomatoTom123]

Marv, there are more millionaires and billionaires than ever but they still say they need tax breaks to invest in jobs. All new money goes straight to the top and few new jobs are created. Trickle down economics never worked because it was only ever designed to give more to those who already have too much.

Yes indeed Jerry Oz. Giving tax breaks to the richest in society doesn't even make sense - actual logical sense - in my opinion.

[phil]

Marv, there are more millionaires and billionaires than ever.

And more and more poor people, homeless workers living in tents, etc...

[arr&bee]

The issue of homelessness is gonna become the biggest headache for america very shortly,these politicians had better get a plan and fast,because it's already gotten out of hand...you would think that arrogant as the rich are they would be ashamed to live in a country this rich with so many without homes and jobs...get together!!!

[Jerry Oz]

Yes indeed Jerry Oz. Giving tax breaks to the richest in society doesn't even make sense - actual logical sense - in my opinion. And the amazing thing is that the more money folks at the bottom make, the more flows up toward the top. If poor and middle class people have more money, people at the top of the food chain are the ultimate beneficiaries [[and it doesn't even take long). There have been studies that show that after minimum wage increases, the local economy benefits remarkably. But when taxes are cut for the top 1%, very few invest in new jobs especially when most of their income is either off shore or they are already producing their wares in another company. SMH.

[marv2]

Marv, there are more millionaires and billionaires than ever but they still say they need tax breaks to invest in jobs. All new money goes straight to the top and few new jobs are created. Trickle down economics never worked because it was only ever designed to give more to those who already have too much.

Jerry. I live on Long Island. There are approximately 145,000 millionaires that live here. During the great Recession of 2008 -2012, NYC, Long Island and Norther NJ were listed as the worst places in America to find new jobs! How could that be huh?

[arr&bee]

Marv,jerry..during the height of the recession i visited the georgetown section of d.c.[where the rich live]and you wouldn't have known that we were in a crisis the way they were shopping without a care...[i was just passing through,i can't afford to shop in georgetown].

[marv2]

And more and more poor people, homeless workers living in tents, etc...

Exactly Phil. You have more women, approx. 4 million living in poverty than just a few years ago.

[marv2]

Marv,jerry..during the height of the recession i visited the georgetown section of d.c.[where the rich live]and you wouldn't have known that we were in a crisis the way they were shopping without a care...[i was just passing through,i can't afford to shop in georgetown].

I totally believe you. Roosevelt Field on Long Island remained packed each weekend and during the holidays.

[ms_m]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...that's what that fool gets for following a fool!!

There are no words to truly express my feelings on this election cycle but just when I thought I had heard it all, today I had a discussion with an educated Black woman whom I will call a Trump apologist. Actually I called her dumber than a box of rocks [[that's the clean version) but that's another story.

Prior to this conversation it NEVER would have occurred to me this woman would consider leaning towards this man and although I didn't ask if she had or was planning on voting for him, the conversation alone pretty much told me she was.

For those that remember my post during the 2008 election, you KNOW I do not have any love for HRC so although I understand her dislike for Clinton as far as I'm concern, HRC could lie about dodging bullets to the cows came home and I would still be with her during this election cycle.

Unfortunately arr&bee, "The African Americans" for Trump you hear about or see in the media are NOT the only ones out there. It hit me like a ton of bricks today that many are simply not speaking up about their support for Trump.

This is probably the only time I will say to you.....I'm not amused. I can't even laugh to keep from crying.

[luke]

Now that is scary. Why?? The Republicans set about demoizing HRC when she had the nerve to try to reform health care! How dare SHE! The they loved her in Congress when they got to know her and saw her talent and hard work and ability to build bridges to get things done. Now they don't like her again. George Bush deleted 22 million emails. Welcome to crazy land.

[ms_m]

Welcome to crazy land.

I concur and what I find truly scary, the crazy people in crazy land will not go quietly into the night no matter which way this goes.

[soulster]

A few minutes ago, CNN reported that security removed a knife from Ted Nugent's possession at tonight's current Trump rally, and he remarked that it was still bloody.

[soulster]

I have no words for these Mexicans and Blacks that support Trump. What the hell is wrong with them?

[phil]

I have no words for these Mexicans and Blacks that support Trump. What the hell is wrong with them?

Recently I saw some very informative -and scary- documentaries about low classes' situation in America and very often the people interviewed said : "we're disguste by our condition, so what do we have to loose ?" So they won't vote or they'll vote for a new [[i.e not a professional politician) candidate.

I don't say they're right, in fact I don't think so BUT I can understand them. It's the same here in France : more and more people turn to the right wing/fascist party because they're sick and tired by the other parties' lies. Be it left or right leading the country won't change their/our condition.

[splanky]

The issue of homelessness is gonna become the biggest headache for america very shortly,these politicians had better get a plan and fast,because it's already gotten out of hand...you would think that arrogant as the rich are they would be ashamed to live in a country this rich with so many without homes and jobs...get together!!!

Whenever poverty is talked about in America the media focus is always on images of the homeless, people living on the streets and in shelters, the jobless, people in unemployment
lines or doing whatever to make or save money but the fact is in addition to those folks there
are millions of people, many referred to as the "working poor", living on the edge from day to day, in their homes or rented spaces but barely surviving, in dead end jobs, cutting routine
monthly costs [[including food expenses) to pay rents and have been doing so for a long time.
The thing is neither of these candidates will do anything about it because both parties have'
been deaf and blind to them for the most part, for decades. Happy election day. Whoever you vote for , be ready to accept their bullshit if your choice wins....

[soulster]

Recently I saw some very informative -and scary- documentaries about low classes' situation in America and very often the people interviewed said : "we're disguste by our condition, so what do we have to loose ?" So they won't vote or they'll vote for a new [[i.e not a professional politician) candidate.

I don't say they're right, in fact I don't think so BUT I can understand them. It's the same here in France : more and more people turn to the right wing/fascist party because they're sick and tired by the other parties' lies. Be it left or right leading the country won't change their/our condition. But, here in the U.S., a lot of Trump supporters aren't poor. A lot of them do have money. They are blue-collar, older, and mostly White, but most of the ones I know are not college, or even high school educated. A lot of them are retired military or own their own businesses. Some, like the christian right, have glommed onto Trump simply because they see him as the vehicle to further their social causes, particularly getting rid of abortion and not being forced to accept LGBTQ equality. There are a disproportionately male because they like the tough, macho talk. And, finally, there are the racists who fear a change in the demographic, resent having an empowered Black and Latino populace, and hate that a man of color is the President of their country.

[marv2]

Whenever poverty is talked about in America the media focus is always on images of the homeless, people living on the streets and in shelters, the jobless, people in unemployment
lines or doing whatever to make or save money but the fact is in addition to those folks there
are millions of people, many referred to as the "working poor", living on the edge from day to day, in their homes or rented spaces but barely surviving, in dead end jobs, cutting routine
monthly costs [[including food expenses) to pay rents and have been doing so for a long time.
The thing is neither of these candidates will do anything about it because both parties have'
been deaf and blind to them for the most part, for decades. Happy election day. Whoever you vote for , be ready to accept their bullshit if your choice wins....

Splanky, the hard reality is these political parties cater to those they think will contribute to them financially and those they believe are most likely to vote. Homeless people for example must have a permanent address to vote. Others have simply lost hope years ago and stay away.

[ms_m]

Demagoguery is an appeal to people that plays on their emotions and prejudices rather than on their rational side. Demagoguery is a manipulative approach — often associated with dictators and sleazy politicians — that appeals to the worst nature of people.

Hillary Clinton's negatives are many but trying to equate her with Trump is mind boggling to me.

THINK with your brain and not with your emotions because if you don't.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmkFt2HSkao

[Roberta75]

A little election humor.

[soulster]

Demagoguery is an appeal to people that plays on their emotions and prejudices rather than on their rational side. Demagoguery is a manipulative approach — often associated with dictators and sleazy politicians — that appeals to the worst nature of people.

Hillary Clinton's negatives are many but trying to equate her with Trump is mind boggling to me.

THINK with your brain and not with your emotions because if you don't.......

The problem is that most people think with their emotions.

[luke]

HRC has been fighting for families and children for 40 years. Doesn't that say a lot about her character? Trump has been fighting for himself and trying to dominate and belittle others. How can voters be so blind???

[soulster]

HRC has been fighting for families and children for 40 years. Doesn't that say a lot about her character? Trump has been fighting for himself and trying to dominate and belittle others. How can voters be so blind???

Easy! They are angry. Some of them don't even know why they're angry, but they're angry.

[marv2]

It is not looking good right now for Hiliary.

[ralpht]

She needs Penn., Marv..

[marv2]

She needs Penn., Marv..

Penn and YES Michigan! I am hoping hard.

[ms_m]

It's so close it doesn't matter who wins. If HRC wins, he and his base will go ballistic.
If he wins, HE will become even more narcissistic and dangerous and throw his base, the fools that didn't bother to vote or voted third party under the bus - and the rest of us with them!

[ms_m]

The problem is that most people think with their emotions.

Then I guess I'll look on the bright side...MOST PEOPLE, are going to be just as screwed as I am!
If anyone thinks that's a joke, take a peek at your 401K.

[ms_m]

I'm Black, a woman and the American voters just told me to kiss their collective a@#...some because they hate me, others because they were too ignorant to realize, that was what a vote for Trump or a third party candidate meant.

If there is any justice, on January 21, 2017 some world leader will piss your president off and he will demand the “nuclear football” ...start WWIII and we'll all be blown to smithereens.

If that doesn't happen and he decides to let Pence run the country … well, as a friend on Facebook posted....none of ya'll better not say sh$t to me on the boat back to Africa!

Kudos to all who are in a position to ride the next four years out. I'm a little jealous, somewhat pissed but will soldier on.

To those who made the choice to Make This Country White, I mean Great Again.... and since I will go high because you went low ....Thank You for the eff ...a jar of Vaseline would have been appreciated though.

No need to scold me Ralph. I'm out.

[marv2]

It is over. Trump has won.

[TomatoTom123]

It is over. Trump has won.

So it is...

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I can't quite believe it

[Jerry Oz]

Jim Crow called us home last night. He said that our chains are right where we left them and that the trees have been somewhat bare, for lack of enough strange fruit since the 50s. But don't worry. There is plenty of room on the branches. Oh, and those burdens we left behind have piled up. We'll be able to get them done, though. The whips are in skilled hands to motivate anybody uppity enough to step out line. Oh, since we had the nerve to suggest that Black lives matter, he's going to prove that they don't. And there will be no straw for the bricks.

Face it: You thought that having a brother in the highest seat of power meant that we were closer to being equal partners in this great land, didn't you? And we were so grateful as a nation, we made him the most popular outgoing president in a generation while replacing him with the KKK's wet dream.

And some of you scoffed at Colin Kaepernick for bringing attention to what we will all find behind door #2 very soon. He was right and if you thought otherwise, go ahead and pledge allegiance to a country that won't pledge allegiance to you. I know that somebody reading this voted for him and may God bless you if you did. But wait until you learn that his secret plan to defeat ISIL is going to involve your son/husband/father/nephew going to Syria. Hopefully it won't be your daughter; Drumpf will find an excuse when she's raped by her fellow soldiers. Men and women shouldn't spend so much time together, he said that.

[[I wonder if the transgender people of color will be forced to use the "Blacks only" bathroom of their birth sex? They probably won't care, so long as we stay out of theirs.)

Well, it's time to make America great again. Get your popcorn ready, it's about to get real. And keep that shouting about fairness down. Nobody wants to hear it, least of all Mr. Crow. He's still pissed about the last time y'all made that commotion. He was asleep for a long time and he's bucking to see us make up for it.

[marv2]

Jim Crow called us home last night. He said that our chains are right where we left them and that the trees have been somewhat bare, for lack of enough strange fruit since the 50s. But don't worry. There is plenty of room on the branches. Oh, and those burdens we left behind have piled up. We'll be able to get them done, though. The whips are in skilled hands to motivate anybody uppity enough to step out line. Oh, since we had the nerve to suggest that Black lives matter, he's going to prove that they don't. And there will be no straw for the bricks.

Face it: You thought that having a brother in the highest seat of power meant that we were closer to being equal partners in this great land, didn't you? And we were so grateful as a nation, we made him the most popular outgoing president in a generation while replacing him with the KKK's wet dream.

And some of you scoffed at Colin Kaepernick for bringing attention to what we will all find behind door #2 very soon. He was right and if you thought otherwise, go ahead and pledge allegiance to a country that won't pledge allegiance to you. I know that somebody reading this voted for him and may God bless you if you did. But wait until you learn that his secret plan to defeat ISIL is going to involve your son/husband/father/nephew going to Syria. Hopefully it won't be your daughter; Drumpf will find an excuse when she's raped by her fellow soldiers. Men and women shouldn't spend so much time together, he said that.

[[I wonder if the transgender people of color will be forced to use the "Blacks only" bathroom of their birth sex? They probably won't care, so long as we stay out of theirs.)

Well, it's time to make America great again. Get your popcorn ready, it's about to get real. And keep that shouting about fairness down. Nobody wants to hear it, least of all Mr. Crow. He's still pissed about the last time y'all made that commotion. He was asleep for a long time and he's bucking to see us make up for it.

Oh Jerry.......................................I have no words.

[Jerry Oz]

I have more words. I'm restraining myself, Marv. We got set back by 50 years when the Voting Rights Act was shot down. They immediately suppressed the vote and look at the results. The pundits can't understand it, but I do. Mark my words: police killings of civilians will have an uptick of at least two per week starting tomorrow. More guns will flood onto the streets. And these dumb f*cks don't realize that the cops kill us at a higher rate, but they kill more of them.

Watch what happens to criminal justice. Watch what happens to housing, employment, and educational discrimination. I'm not writing this without thinking about it. We will have a war within two years, write it down. This time there will be no coalition to help us out. Domestically and internationally, the world changed in a huge way tonight. I'm done right now. This is the worst thing that could have occurred and with you and I being in our 50s, we will be dead before we gain what we will lose in the next year.

[ms_m]

And we were so grateful as a nation, we made him the most popular outgoing president in a generation.

Here is the true irony in that statement, a very large majority who drove up his favorables are White. The same ones that told us eight years ago [[and even before) that racism was over and we were paranoid and crazy to think other wise.

When Blacks were being murdered in the street on video, Gays were murdered and beaten, Women, the Disable, Immigrants etc. were being bullied, ridiculed and harassed at an alarming rate, these same White folk suddenly realize racism and every other ism you could think of was REAL...that White privilege exist. HELL, I almost got kicked off this forum for saying the very same thing I now hear" good liberal" White people say about their own.

I'm pissed...not because he won. This victory honestly doesn't surprise me...anymore than racism surprises me. I'm pissed because many, if not most of these same people I'm referring to have the audacity to be shocked and didn't see this coming.

Michael Moore and a few others who were "poo pooed" for trying to warn folks wasn't so dumb after all, was he?

..and to my own that helped make this happen...carry on Jerry Oz, carry on!!!!

[destruction]

I've been involved in politics since I was 6....watching Bmore's future politicians playing cards on Friday nights....and passing out flyers Saturday mornings.

I also worked for the Feds all of my adult life.

I've always believed we get the government we deserve.....and I still do.

Jerry.....no we won't.

MsM.......George Lopez said it before Moore.

Cue the coyote....and the safe.

[luke]

MsM... don't go. We need you. Most if not all here did not vote for Trump and believe in nothing he stands for. Keep the fight alive. And pray

[ms_m]

MsM... don't go. We need you. Most if not all here did not vote for Trump and believe in nothing he stands for. Keep the fight alive. And pray

Luke it's not about who didn't vote for Trump. I am pissed with the folks that suddenly found their...wow, we really do live in a racist country moment.

Many Blacks, especially from my era and even a little younger have tried to get non Whites to LISTEN but they refused. I'm not talking to ALL. I'm talking to those folks who saw themselves as... just and fair and yeah, even liberal cause they gotta Black friend.... who refused to accept all the crap we told them was out there, REALLY WAS OUT THERE.

I'm talking to those who refused to HEAR their White privileged which they refuse to accept, blinded them to what we knew , felt, saw and experienced was hurting us just as much as the full out racist.

Imagine if they had listen to us....we could have kicked over those damn rocks and exposed the "deplorables", years ago.

I'm also pissed with myself for falling back and not keeping up the pressure. You want to know an irony...up until this moment I never thought Trump and I had anything in common but we do.....BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT IS BS! I'm not talking about showing people kindness and empathy, I'm talking about that attitude where we are suppose to tip toe around issues as not to upset the status quo.

HA! jokes on me and many of us 'cause not being PC and upsetting the status quo worked....now ain't that a kick in the head?

[ms_m]

Des does it matter who said it first?

[destruction]

Des does it matter who said it first?

No......it doesn't and I should have given context.

The point that I failed to make is that Moore said here are the five reasons Trump will win.

Whereas.....back before the first primary Lopez commented......"Yall laughing at Trump, but there's enough racists in this country to make it happen."

[ms_m]

No......it doesn't and I should have given context.

The point that I failed to make is that Moore said here are the five reasons Trump will win.

Whereas.....back before the first primary Lopez commented......"Yall laughing at Trump, but there's enough racists in this country to make it happen."

And that's part of my point, many of us have known it for years but all hell would break loose when we called it out.... and look where being told [[literally and figuratively) to sit down, shut the eff up and pull ourselves up my our boot straps has gotten us.

I'll get over getting being pissed, that's not a problem but will I get over the next four years? That is causing me hella concern right now!

People really don't understand the evil they have unleashed. Screw Trump, he was just the one to open the frigging box that let it out...the real danger is, it's not going back in, anytime soon.


P.S. AND BTW...Did you notice the SUN DIDN'T RISE THIS MORNING...LITERALLY!

[soulster]

Yes it did. I'm looking at it..

[ms_m]

Yes it did. I'm looking at it..

Take this how ever you want. I wasn't speaking to you, I was speaking to Des and no it didn't. Not in our neck of the woods!

Soulster I'm going to let you in on a little secret. I've been reading many of your post all over the forum and actually found myself agreeing with many of the things you've said musically and politically....BUT PLEASE...don't get it twisted, ok?

[soulster]

Take this how ever you want. I wasn't speaking to you, I was speaking to Des and no it didn't. Not in our neck of the woods!

Soulster I'm going to let you in on a little secret. I've been reading many of your post all over the forum and actually found myself agreeing with many of the things you've said musically and politically....BUT PLEASE...don't get it twisted, ok? You and I don't like each other. I'm not sure how we got to that place, but I never had a problem with your political opinions, even though I may disagree with a few. Everybody disagrees sometimes.

The bad blood between you, me, and des, came at a time where there was a lot of crap going on on this forum that had nothing to do with the three of us, but, somehow, I got grouped in with that troublemaking bunch. Hell, my screen name may be different for technical reasons, but I believe I was a member here before either of you were.

I'm a person with my own opinions based on MY observations and experiences. I'm often at odds with a large majority of the forum with my opinions, even Ralph. But, I am outspoken, and I don't always hold back.

I think mutual respect is in order to keep peace. No personal attacks or snide comments, and I think we'll all get along. I wonder if Des is on board with that.

[Jerry Oz]

Every time Republicans get control of the country, let alone all three branches of government, two things happen. The first is that racism and discrimination manifest themselves in a very robust manner. People take the cue that they can say and do things that are reprehensible to people because they are different and to a large extent they get away with it. The second is that the economy goes into a tail spin. Look it up. Historically, they get us in trouble and "tax and spend" liberals inevitably come in and restore the order. And historically, once things are on a better floor the cycle repeats itself. I'm tired of watching this movie, I've seen it several times in my life.

My second concern is this: In the past two years, the light has turned on to reveal how law enforcement gets away with inexcusable abuses. The president took away the program that gave local police departments armored vehicles and weapons that are designed for war after they were deployed in Ferguson. Do you think Drumpf and prospective attorney general Rudolph Giuliani are going to have a similar opinion on things? Do you think the Justice Department will investigate the next time Cleveland, New York, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Houston, Ferguson, et.al. have a pattern of abuse? He already said he will make the police tougher.

I also have two serious existential problems right now. One is that I will see equal protections under law eroded in the next few years and it will be harder to buy a car or house or rent an apartment. The second is that my nephews and nieces will have to refight the battles that I thought were won a long time ago. I am 54 years old. I will never see us progress to the point that we were at when I went to sleep this morning [[couldn't fall asleep last night). With his Supreme Court nominees, we will see that the elimination of the Voters Rights Act was just the beginning. I'm shaking my head. Two separate Americas, indeed.

[marv2]

I have more words. I'm restraining myself, Marv. We got set back by 50 years when the Voting Rights Act was shot down. They immediately suppressed the vote and look at the results. The pundits can't understand it, but I do. Mark my words: police killings of civilians will have an uptick of at least two per week starting tomorrow. More guns will flood onto the streets. And these dumb f*cks don't realize that the cops kill us at a higher rate, but they kill more of them.

Watch what happens to criminal justice. Watch what happens to housing, employment, and educational discrimination. I'm not writing this without thinking about it. We will have a war within two years, write it down. This time there will be no coalition to help us out. Domestically and internationally, the world changed in a huge way tonight. I'm done right now. This is the worst thing that could have occurred and with you and I being in our 50s, we will be dead before we gain what we will lose in the next year.

If Giuliani is picked for Attorney General, there will be no prosecution or investigations by the Federal Government into such shootings. I know that is how it was when he was our Mayor.

[Roberta75]

Every time Republicans get control of the country, let alone all three branches of government, two things happen. The first is that racism and discrimination manifest themselves in a very robust manner. People take the cue that they can say and do things that are reprehensible to people because they are different and to a large extent they get away with it. The second is that the economy goes into a tail spin. Look it up. Historically, they get us in trouble and "tax and spend" liberals inevitably come in and restore the order. And historically, once things are on a better floor the cycle repeats itself. I'm tired of watching this movie, I've seen it several times in my life.

My second concern is this: In the past two years, the light has turned on to reveal how law enforcement gets away with inexcusable abuses. The president took away the program that gave local police departments armored vehicles and weapons that are designed for war after they were deployed in Ferguson. Do you think Drumpf and prospective attorney general Rudolph Giuliani are going to have a similar opinion on things? Do you think the Justice Department will investigate the next time Cleveland, New York, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Houston, Ferguson, et.al. have a pattern of abuse? He already said he will make the police tougher.

I also have two serious existential problems right now. One is that I will see equal protections under law eroded in the next few years and it will be harder to buy a car or house or rent an apartment. The second is that my nephews and nieces will have to refight the battles that I thought were won a long time ago. I am 54 years old. I will never see us progress to the point that we were at when I went to sleep this morning [[couldn't fall asleep last night). With his Supreme Court nominees, we will see that the elimination of the Voters Rights Act was just the beginning. I'm shaking my head. Two separate Americas, indeed.

I agree with everything youve said JerryOz. Im stunned and disgusted and shocked and doing a lot of praying.

Roberta

[soulster]

I wish Obama would sign an executive order and grant all undocumented Latinos citizenship for spite. That way, Trump can't deport 'em, and the Democrats will have a built-in voter bloc for the next election. He can do it, too. Ronald Reagan did it.

And, then watch the republicans totally destroy whatever is left of the voting laws in retaliation. Anarchy!

[luke]

I hear you msm. I feel even worse that HRC won popular vote by 2 million. Time to get rid of electoral college

[ms_m]

I hear you msm. I feel even worse that HRC won popular vote by 2 million. Time to get rid of electoral college

I don't know Luke. I like the idea of a popular vote in theory but in reality, not sure if it would be entirely fair. If I live in a state like Rhode Island where the entire state population is less than many of our larger cities, does that REALLY give me a true voice in the voting process?

It hurts to see the popular vote total and know she loss but there is a bigger picture at stake that needs to be examined as well.

Let me play devils advocate for a sec. If it had been Trump who won the popular vote and HRC who won the electoral vote, would you still feel the same?

[Jerry Oz]

I wish Obama would sign an executive order and grant all undocumented Latinos citizenship for spite. That way, Trump can't deport 'em, and the Democrats will have a built-in voter bloc for the next election. He can do it, too. Ronald Reagan did it.

And, then watch the republicans totally destroy whatever is left of the voting laws in retaliation. Anarchy!

It doesn't work like that. Executive orders are limited in their scope and they already challenged his immigration order successfully. They are now saying that they're preparing 25 documents for Herr Drumpf to sign on day one that will rescind all of the things he used executive action on. It's their stated goal to erase everything that he did in his term. He wants to destroy the president's legacy.

[luke]

No I would not. ! I have to think about it more because it still confuses me and I was a history major!! Soulster great idea per executive order and pardon HRCin case nutso goes after her and gay protection on all levels employments housing etc. and marriage equality etc etc!

[ms_m]

lUKE: Yep, democracy can be a messy and quirky business.

As far as an executive order, keep in mind, it's only good while the current recipient is in the WH, after that, all bets are off.

Oops, didn't see Jerry's post...my bad.

[144man]

For someone who said that he wanted to end the status quo, Donald Trump's acceptance speech sounded remarkably like that of any normal politician.

[soulster]

It doesn't work like that. Executive orders are limited in their scope and they already challenged his immigration order successfully. They are now saying that they're preparing 25 documents for Herr Drumpf to sign on day one that will rescind all of the things he used executive action on. It's their stated goal to erase everything that he did in his term. He wants to destroy the president's legacy.

I'm pretty sure Obama can emancipate undocumented people by Executive order.

[Jerry Oz]

He already tried to exempt them from ICE enforcement activity but Republican governors sued. The courts said that he exceeded his authority. Only an act of Congress can create a path to citizenship.

[ms_m]

For someone who said that he wanted to end the status quo, Donald Trump's acceptance speech sounded remarkably like that of any normal politician.

Agree and I will admit, his acting like an adult surprised me but over the years I've learned, a human snake will always be a human snake.

This change of tone would have to be consistent over the course of the next four years for me to give him the benefit of the doubt so at the end of the day, we shall see. However, he has painted himself in a corner and if he doesn't revert back to type at some point, his base will turn on him. That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing but it would be a scary ting.

[theboyfromxtown]

Any thoughts on Hilary Clinton's speech ?

[ms_m]

Sad, classy, apologetic...and of course the usual rhetoric of how it's time for the country to heal, come together, blah, blah, blah.

[ms_m]

Although I was a child, I still have very vivid memories of riding with my parents to a certain BBQ place and having to order and pick up our food at the back door. I still remember the white and colored signs for the drinking fountain in front of our court house. To this day, I still have a visceral reaction to the old train station [[which is now a nursery) where my mom and I would sit in the colored waiting room, waiting on the train that would take us to visit my grandmother. And of course we would take that ride in the colored section of the train, where we would eat the lunch that my mom had prepared because we were not allowed in the train dining car. As I grew older I remember watching the sit ins, the marches, the fire hydrant hoses and dogs... and older still, the riots in cities all over the country. Yet, these last 18 months and the final result of the election has left me with a sense of dread that has far surpassed anything I felt back then. My faith in the American people [[in general) has pretty much eroded as well as any optimism I may have had for the future of this country.

[marv2]

I have more words. I'm restraining myself, Marv. We got set back by 50 years when the Voting Rights Act was shot down. They immediately suppressed the vote and look at the results. The pundits can't understand it, but I do. Mark my words: police killings of civilians will have an uptick of at least two per week starting tomorrow. More guns will flood onto the streets. And these dumb f*cks don't realize that the cops kill us at a higher rate, but they kill more of them.

Watch what happens to criminal justice. Watch what happens to housing, employment, and educational discrimination. I'm not writing this without thinking about it. We will have a war within two years, write it down. This time there will be no coalition to help us out. Domestically and internationally, the world changed in a huge way tonight. I'm done right now. This is the worst thing that could have occurred and with you and I being in our 50s, we will be dead before we gain what we will lose in the next year.

Watch what happens when it becomes clear that Trump will not be able to deliver on most everything he promised his supporters like bring back all those manufacturing jobs lost over the decades. Just watch when 20 million people loose their health insurance, etc.

[lakeside]

http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/10/how-hillary-clinton-could-still-get-in-the-white-house/21603123/

[phil]

. My faith in the American people [[in general) has pretty much eroded as well as any optimism I may have had for the future of this country.

I understand you ms_m, I saw recently a French documentary about RE-SEGREGATION in Alabama, I just couldn't believe it !

[Jerry Oz]

Watch what happens when it becomes clear that Trump will not be able to deliver on most everything he promised his supporters like bring back all those manufacturing jobs lost over the decades. Just watch when 20 million people loose their health insurance, etc.I already know what's going to happen because it's happened before. Somewhere in the second year of his presidency, we are going to find a reason to attack Iran or put US boots on the ground in Syria. The reason is three-fold. First, he's going to need to distract people from the fact that his promises are BS and he can't deliver on them. Second, he will by then have broken the Iran nuclear accord and the "only way to make sure" they don't have the ability to create nukes will be to kill US soldiers. There will be no coalition this time, the world already brokered a manageable deal to the problem. Also, he's already painted himself into a corner by telling his deplorable base that he will "absolutely wipe out ISIS". Third, he's a profiteer a la Dick Cheney and there's big money in fighting wars. He's going to finally be a billionaire by the time he leaves office and it's only going to cost a few Mexicans their homes, a few Syrians a safe haven from a horrible situation, and a few soldiers their lives. It's a win-win!

[Roberta75]

Sad, classy, apologetic...and of course the usual rhetoric of how it's time for the country to heal, come together, blah, blah, blah.

You know what ms_m they can shove there rhetoric where the sun dont shine. im not ready to heal and come together. An orange faced buffon hurled vicious slurs at Mexicans and African Americans and Muslims and Women and people with dissabilities for the better part of a year and THATS exactly who he is and his VEEP Mr Pence is worse hes a total homophobe who would take away marriage equality and a womans right to choose. Im a Christian who I dont think has ever cussed on this here forum but when it comes to heal and come together all that comes to mind is F*CK Donald TRUMP and Rudy Guiliani and that worthless vat of lard Chris Christie. Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.

[ms_m]

[quote= you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.[/quote]

amen!!!!!!

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/6.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/5.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/4.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/3.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/2.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/Capture.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/7.jpg

[soulster]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night. This has to be the best thing you've ever written here!

[Roberta75]

This orange faced buffoon questions our Presidents citizenship and starts the vicious birther movement that went on for almost 6 years and then he calls President Obama a very good man after meeting him at the White House for the FIRST TIME EVER. You trash a decent and honest and great man for 6 years that youve never ever met and think your very good man comment wipes all of that vicious hate away. NO MISTER TRUMP it doesnt.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/donald-trump-obama-paul-ryan-washington/

[ms_m]

I understand you ms_m, I saw recently a French documentary about RE-SEGREGATION in Alabama, I just couldn't believe it !


I can remember people trying to tell me that racism was dying out. Yeah right....you now have middle school kids, high school kids, college kids gloating about how they are going to get their country back...THEIR COUNTRY?

The struggle is real. Always has been and always will be!

[sophisticated_soul]

Yet, these last 18 months and the final result of the election has left me with a sense of dread that has far surpassed anything I felt back then. My faith in the American people [[in general) has pretty much eroded as well as any optimism I may have had for the future of this country.

I have been heartsick and disgusted that hate and fear have won out in this election. And now I have great dread for what is coming, no, what is starting to happen right now. Trump has been inciting a mob for more than a year. He has in essence been inciting a lynch mob and now that they are in power, it will be about revenge which they will call “taking back our country”.

The Trump administration will make every effort to undo the progress that has been made in civil rights, but the genie is out of the bottle and there is going to be fight. There will be physical and emotional violence, and sadly it looks like it cannot be avoided. Our nation is divided and both sides are digging in. The mob is emboldened and out for revenge and to maintain our civil rights we have to fight them. There is no other choice. I honestly don’t see how it will be avoided. What I fear and dread most is that this violence will likely be worse than 60’s.

The set back to civil rights that America has voted in tells me it will be many, many years before Americans will be anything resembling unified, if that can ever happen at all. I think the divisions are too deep.

[Jerry Oz]

We here are all too old to see us return to what we thought we had three days ago. But that's actually okay. Things didn't change overnight. This country has been waiting for this moment and it is revealed that we are who we always were.

[ms_m]

I have been heartsick and disgusted that hate and fear have won out in this election. And now I have great dread for what is coming, no, what is starting to happen right now. Trump has been inciting a mob for more than a year. He has in essence been inciting a lynch mob and now that they are in power, it will be about revenge which they will call “taking back our country”.

The Trump administration will make every effort to undo the progress that has been made in civil rights, but the genie is out of the bottle and there is going to be fight. There will be physical and emotional violence, and sadly it looks like it cannot be avoided. Our nation is divided and both sides are digging in. The mob is emboldened and out for revenge and to maintain our civil rights we have to fight them. There is no other choice. I honestly don’t see how it will be avoided. What I fear and dread most is that this violence will likely be worse than 60’s.

The set back to civil rights that America has voted in tells me it will be many, many years before Americans will be anything resembling unified, if that can ever happen at all. I think the divisions are too deep.

Exactly, people who voted for this man, voted third party or simply didn't vote at all really don't have a clue...but they are about to find out and his deplorable base will not be happy either. Just HOW bad it will get is still up in the air but this BS will NOT end well for any of us!

[ms_m]

We here are all too old to see us return to what we thought we had three days ago. But that's actually okay. Things didn't change overnight. This country has been waiting for this moment and it is revealed that we are who we always were.

we are who we always were

Having to finally accept that is like a knife through the heart.

[marv2]

I have been heartsick and disgusted that hate and fear have won out in this election. And now I have great dread for what is coming, no, what is starting to happen right now. Trump has been inciting a mob for more than a year. He has in essence been inciting a lynch mob and now that they are in power, it will be about revenge which they will call “taking back our country”.

The Trump administration will make every effort to undo the progress that has been made in civil rights, but the genie is out of the bottle and there is going to be fight. There will be physical and emotional violence, and sadly it looks like it cannot be avoided. Our nation is divided and both sides are digging in. The mob is emboldened and out for revenge and to maintain our civil rights we have to fight them. There is no other choice. I honestly don’t see how it will be avoided. What I fear and dread most is that this violence will likely be worse than 60’s.

The set back to civil rights that America has voted in tells me it will be many, many years before Americans will be anything resembling unified, if that can ever happen at all. I think the divisions are too deep.

sophisticated_soul the people that are out to spread hate and violence towards others have always been a part of America. Things seemed to have changed, but now we see that it was only on the surface.

[marv2]

I can remember people trying to tell me that racism was dying out. Yeah right....you now have middle school kids, high school kids, college kids gloating about how they are going to get their country back...THEIR COUNTRY?

The struggle is real. Always has been and always will be!

They are behaving like that at that age because their parents have taught them to hate! We all were that age once. My parents NEVER taught us hate of any kind.

[sophisticated_soul]

we are who we always were

Having to finally accept that is like a knife through the heart.

In my lifetime I saw great advances in civil rights and then the slow erosion of those rights over time, to the point that we are nearly back to square one. Indeed "we are who we always were" and this election has indeed become "a knife through the heart". "The more things change, the more they remain the same".

[sophisticated_soul]

sophisticated_soul the people that are out to spread hate and violence towards others have always been a part of America. Things seemed to have changed, but now we see that it was only on the surface.

Yes, they have always been there. The difference now is they are emboldened by the support of the President [[elect) of the United States.

[ms_m]

Your heart and your head tells you to keep fighting but Jerry is right, we're getting old and having to fight for rights that are GOD given, over and over and over...having to take two steps forward just to be knocked back four, is wearing me and I'm sure others down.

[sophisticated_soul]

M, sometimes I think I couldn't feel any more worn down than I do.

[ms_m]

M, sometimes I think I couldn't feel more worn down than I do.

x's a million and one!

[sophisticated_soul]

^LOL!!!! I love that you 'get' me.:)

[ms_m]

^LOL!!!! I love that you 'get' me.:)

I've made friends on this board that will last a lifetime and you're one of them. AND YOU KNOW THIS. smooches:cool:

[sophisticated_soul]

I've made friends on this board that will last a lifetime and you're one of them. AND YOU KNOW THIS. smooches:cool:

M, the feeling is very mutual, AND YOU KNOW THAT! Love You Bunches, JOsEph:cool:

[Jerry Oz]

They are behaving like that at that age because their parents have taught them to hate! We all were that age once. My parents NEVER taught us hate of any kind.I read a tweet where five-year olds were chanting "Build the wall!" toward their Mexican playmates on a kindergarten playground.

Welcome to tomorrow, y'all.

[marv2]

Yes, they have always been there. The difference now is they are emboldened by the support of the President [[elect) of the United States.

We still have laws that even Donald Trump must obey. I know that is of very little comfort based on what we have seen in recent years with police shootings.

[marv2]

I read a tweet where five-year olds were chanting "Build the wall!" toward their Mexican playmates on a kindergarten playground.

Welcome to tomorrow, y'all.

The kids at a Middle School in Royal Oak, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit we chanting the same thing. That is the part that is truly sad.

[marv2]

I read a tweet where five-year olds were chanting "Build the wall!" toward their Mexican playmates on a kindergarten playground.

Welcome to tomorrow, y'all.

Welcome to yesterday you mean..............

[Jerry Oz]

M, the feeling is very mutual, AND YOU KNOW THAT! Love You Bunches, JOsEph:cool:Get a room, you two. LOL.

[Jerry Oz]

Welcome to yesterday you mean..............Maybe. But yesterday, teachers or school administrators would have stepped in to suspend or otherwise discipline those kids. Today, I'm not hearing about any repercussions for them behaving like little assholes. It's also happening in middle schools, high schools, and college campuses in every state.

You can only push something so hard before it falls down. Something tells me this is going to end very badly quite soon when somebody fights back. I read one account of a kid who had to endure insults from a crowd of White kids standing in the parking lot of a high school. When they began yelling at his friends, he was going to go outside to address them but was told by his principal that he'd be expelled if he opened the door.

[ms_m]

get a room, you two. Lol.

hahahahahahaha

[soulster]

We still have laws that even Donald Trump must obey.
Watch him ignore the laws.

[arr&bee]

He may try,but there are checks and balances,the very reason that the slave owners-opps-err-ahem-hehe..the founding fathers wrote the constitution was to keep one fool from going completely nuts.

[Jerry Oz]

He may try,but there are checks and balances,the very reason that the slave owners-opps-err-ahem-hehe..the founding fathers wrote the constitution was to keep one fool from going completely nuts.He has a congress and senate that will support everything he wants as long as he signs their bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

[ms_m]

He has a congress and senate that will support everything he wants as long as he signs their bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

....what he said!!!!!!!!!!

[arr&bee]

I'll be in my bomb shelter getting drunk,waiting for the end and playing my temps records very loudly!!!!

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/3_1.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/2_1.jpg

[Jerry Oz]

Sorry folks but you dont hear hate for a year and then get over it in a night.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/JayOzOne/1.jpg

[arr&bee]

The nuts are falling out of the trees now, if my daughter were still in college and had to deal with this kind of bullshit[please excuse my french]i would either pull her out or go to jail.

[ms_m]

This will NOT end well. If the kids being targeted start to retaliate they will be the ones thrown under the bus OR WORSE!

[arr&bee]

It seems that war is being declared,Donald DuDu has unleased his pandoras box of nuts...Obama may have to address the nation if this is the beginning of a trend and make it clear that this will not be tolerated,because we will fight back,and ain't gonna be no marching this time.

[ms_m]

It seems that war is being declared,Donald DuDu has unleased his pandoras box of nuts...Obama may have to address the nation if this is the beginning of a trend and make it clear that this will not be tolerated,because we will fight back,and ain't gonna be no marching this time.

I'm ALL FOR defending ourselves but let's not let words and ignorant actions cause blood to be shed.

Trump started this...he needs to address it. He wants to be a leader, well it's time for this mofo to start leading!

Heaven help us. I knew that feeling of dread in my gut was real!!!!!

[arr&bee]

You're right of course,but if your child is at school to get an education and this ignorant stuff is put in his or her face,I say Obama should speak on this because he is still President and has the authority to stop this craziness before it gets out of hand.

[ms_m]

You're right of course,but if your child is at school to get an education and this ignorant stuff is put in his or her face,I say Obama should speak on this because he is still President and has the authority to stop this craziness before it gets out of hand.


I'm willing to listen to reason, you are willing to listen to reason but do you think these kids are? He is a great orator but exactly what authority should he use. Call in the National Guard?

This is a volatile situation and I wish I knew what could be done to stop it in a peaceful way. I can't think of one though but hell, President Obama is waaaaaaaaaaaay smarter than me so ...maybe you're on to something.

[marv2]

x's a million and one!

Ms_m, eat your Wheaties! We are not as old as Bernie Sanders and he intends to fight like Hell! He is even considering another run for POTUS!

[marv2]

Maybe. But yesterday, teachers or school administrators would have stepped in to suspend or otherwise discipline those kids. Today, I'm not hearing about any repercussions for them behaving like little assholes. It's also happening in middle schools, high schools, and college campuses in every state.

You can only push something so hard before it falls down. Something tells me this is going to end very badly quite soon when somebody fights back. I read one account of a kid who had to endure insults from a crowd of White kids standing in the parking lot of a high school. When they began yelling at his friends, he was going to go outside to address them but was told by his principal that he'd be expelled if he opened the door.

It sucks, but I know that it is going to get handled. I've heard people say that maybe racism will end when the older generation just simply dies out. Now I see they are leaving us with a parting gift! Kids today really have no basis whatsoever to be racist or discriminatory. Heck, even when I was a kid we were not like that.

[ms_m]

Ms_m, eat your Wheaties! We are not as old as Bernie Sanders and he intends to fight like Hell! He is even considering another run for POTUS!

Sorry Marv, I'm not a Sanders fan. I can appreciate many of his... I was going to be snarky but decided against it:p.....policy proposals and I definitely like the idea he pulled HRC a little further toward the left but beyond that, he doesn't do it for me. To be honest, no one on the Dem side was a major hit for me but I damn sure wasn't interested in anyone on the Repub side so I went with the one I thought would have a fighting chance. Oh well.

[destruction]

Over the past 35 plus years, people in the USA have become less intelligent and more violent on average. Since then the population has been more firmly divided into tribes.....and been circling each other....

Now one group feels more Emboldened lately after eight years of "Oppression".

There will be a spark.

The only thing preventing blood in the streets now is the weather..... and that may not be enough.

[destruction]

The nuts are falling out of the trees now, if my daughter were still in college and had to deal with this kind of bullshit[please excuse my french]i would either pull her out or go to jail.

My granddaughter dealt with this her first semester at a Conservatory.

[Jerry Oz]

Over the past 35 plus years, people in the USA have become less intelligent and more violent on average. Since then the population has been more firmly divided into tribes.....and been circling each other....
Man, if you were here, I'd beat your dumb ass for saying something like that. :rolleyes:

Okay, I stopped beating asses the day I started doing horse, so I was just kidding. But the thing that nobody remembers is that Dr. King was killed when he targeted the class system. When poor people realize that there's a whole lot more of them than those who control them, they'll realize that they have the power to change their lives by working together. Demagogues like Supreme Leader Drumpf know that if they keep us separated, order will always serve their interests.

[ms_m]

Demagogues like Supreme Leader Drumpf know that if they keep us separated, order will always serve their interests.

The republican party was using the divide and conquer meme as far back as the Nixon Southern Strategy...Although, I know I don't have to remind you it can also be traced back to slavery.

With the exception of working together to vote for President Obama, the immediate aftermath of 911 and pushing LBJ into signing the Civil Rights Act, trying to get people to come together [[on a wide scale) seems like an anomaly.

Trump said, he loved the uneducated, his base didn't waver, he also said he could stand in the middle of 5th Ave and killed someone and his based wouldn't care. Does anyone think he was wrong?

This country becoming less intelligent and more violent on average seems quite plausible to me.

Oh and hanging out with friends today, that tribal mentally/circling each other thing was rather evident and I happen to now be living in a state that went Blue..

[destruction]

"Trump said, he loved the uneducated, his base didn't waver, he also said he could stand in the middle of 5th Ave and killed someone and his base wouldn't care. Does anyone think he was wrong?"

As my grandma used to say...."Proof is in the pudding".

If Bush wore Teflon......what do you call Trump's coating?

And Jerry....after that could you put on your high heels and just walk all over me.
We're always good.

[Jerry Oz]

LOL. There are a few scary things about Herr Drumpf, not the least being that he is mentally ill. His lack of tact and ignorance of socially acceptable behavior suggests a man who literally believes that he is the center of the universe. He has more in common with some of the more renowned dictators than leaders of today's world.

A narcissistic compulsive liar who is simultaneously hyper-charismatic to some and remarkably repulsive to others is also frightening. His control over his followers is reminiscent of someone who I won't name for sake of propriety. To be fair, he has no problem if refugees are victims of gas attacks due to their religion, but he hasn't gassed any himself. Yet.

But speaking of YKW, another scary aspect of Adolph **derp** I meant Donald Trump is his mastery of the Big Lie. If you tell a big enough lie often enough, people are bound to believe it. George W. Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction and started two wars. If you think Drumpf won't do it, you're not paying attention. We made Chance the Gardener's evil twin the leader of the world's fulcrum with a mandate to make us all great. Ach du lieber gott!

[ms_m]

Did you guys here about the anti protester that was shot. His injuries are not life threatening but....and so it begins....
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/1-injured-portland-anti-trump-protests

[arr&bee]

Their hands sweat,their fingers itch i'm the only one you can trust with the switch give it to me-power!!!!

[Jerry Oz]

You picked the wrong one, Jai:

People moving out, people moving inWhy, because of the color of their skin
Run, run, run but you sure can't hide
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth
Vote for me and I'll set you free
Rap on, brother, rap on
Well, the only person talking about love thy brother is the preacher
And it seems nobody's interested in learning but the teacher
Segregation, determination, demonstration, integration
Aggravation, humiliation, obligation to our nation
Ball of confusion
Oh yeah, that's what the world is today
Woo, hey, hey
The sale of pills are at an all time high
Young folks walking round with their heads in the sky
The cities ablaze in the summer time
And oh, the beat goes on

Evolution, revolution, gun control, sound of soul
Shooting rockets to the moon, kids growing up too soon
Politicians say more taxes will solve everything
And the band played on
So, round and around and around we go
Where the world's headed, nobody knows
Oh, great googa-looga, can't you hear me talking to you
Just a ball of confusion
Oh yeah, that's what the world is today
Woo, hey
Fear in the air, tension everywhere
Unemployment rising fast, the Beatles new record's a gas
And the only safe place to live is on an Indian reservation
And the band played on
Eve of destruction, tax deduction, city inspectors, bill collectors
Mod clothes in demand, population out of hand, suicide, too many bills
Hippies moving to the hills, people all over the world are shouting, end the war
And the band played on
Great googa-looga, can't you hear me talking to you
Sayin' ball of confusion
That's what the world is today, hey, hey
Let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya
Sayin', ball of confusion
That's what the world is today, hey, hey
Let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya, let me hear ya.
Ball of confusion.

[arr&bee]

You got it jerry!!

[ms_m]

Written on the back of a sign advertising Spanish-language religious services at the Episcopal Church of Our Saviour in Silver Spring, Maryland, congregation members discovered Sunday morning. The sign had also been slashed in several places, and a brick wall in the church’s memorial garden was defaced with the same slogan.The church serves a predominately Latino congregation.

12022

[ms_m]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/an-ape-in-heels-wv-officials-slur-michelle-obama-and-say-melania-trump-will-be-refreshing/

This behavior and disrespect isn't new but... buck naked pics on the internet of the US first lady elect is quite refreshing....NOT!

2020 can not get here soon enough!!!!

[marv2]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/an-ape-in-heels-wv-officials-slur-michelle-obama-and-say-melania-trump-will-be-refreshing/

This behavior and disrespect isn't new but... buck naked pics on the internet of the US first lady elect is quite refreshing....NOT!

2020 can not get here soon enough!!!!


There are some very sick people in this country.

[ms_m]

Feagin recognizes that resistance to racism is also an important feature of systemic racism. Racism has never been passively accepted by those who suffer it, and so systemic racism is always accompanied by acts of resistance that might manifest as protest, political campaigns, legal battles, resisting white authority figures, and speaking back against racist stereotypes, beliefs, and language. The white backlash that typically follows resistance, like countering "black lives matter" with "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter," does the work of limiting the effects of resistance and maintaining a racist system.
http://sociology.about.com/od/S_Index/fl/Systemic-Racism.htm


F.Y.I.
To Whom it May Concern: I speak from a female Black perspective because I'm a Black female, any group who could be seen as “other” please don't be shy voicing your perspective as well.
M

[ms_m]

The mayor who commented on the derogatory comment about Mrs Obama said...


“My comment was not intended to be racist at all. I was referring to my day being made for change in the White House! I am truly sorry for any hard feeling this may have caused! Those who know me know that I’m not of any way racist!
“Again, I would like to apologize for this getting out of hand!”


The thing that ALWAYS stands out to me is the phrase [[or some variation of)...... “ people who know me” …

Why does that stand out? [[to me)

Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself two questions:

1. What is the ethnic makeup of the MAJORITY of the people YOU KNOW and the ethnic makeup of the MAJORITY of the people that KNOW YOU?

2. Who did I convince by saying, people who know me?

[arr&bee]

I just read about the racist statements from the mayor about michelle...i'm not surprised but the slut should be fired.

[destruction]

Their hands sweat,their fingers itch i'm the only one you can trust with the switch give it to me-power!!!!

These last few posts have taken me down memory lane in a totally different path than I expected from this thread.

arr&bee's post reminded of the way back when days of playing Power in the van with my little grand ditties. My youngest used to sing Melvin's line through the whole song. But the quote shared here is what they used to say when they took something from one another and ran in their best Dennis Edwards impression..."give it to me!"

Here's a Related clip:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdbGr_eTsMY

And my oldest grand quoted from Ball of Confusion in her 5th grade commencement speech.

[arr&bee]

Cute cute cute.

[destruction]

Cute cute cute.

Can you guess the song?

It was a test on SDF a ways back.

[marv2]

These last few posts have taken me down memory lane in a totally different path than I expected from this thread.

arr&bee's post reminded of the way back when days of playing Power in the van with my little grand ditties. My youngest used to sing Melvin's line through the whole song. But the quote shared here is what they used to say when they took something from one another and ran in their best Dennis Edwards impression..."give it to me!"

Here's a Related clip:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdbGr_eTsMY

And my oldest grand quoted from Ball of Confusion in her 5th grade commencement speech.

Go girls!!!!!!!

[ms_m]

Go girls!!!!!!!

Yo Dez, you getting OLD dude. LOL