Primettes sing bvackgrounds on "Teenage Queen"

[robb_k]

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Craig Moerer is selling this studio demo record of "Teenage Queen" for $300,[[same song as Joe Hunter and Fred Brown's J.J. Barnes' cut on Mickay's Records from 1963 - so he says), listing it as The Primettes backing up an unknown singer.
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I don't remember seeing "Teenage Queen" as one of the songs they performed backup. Martha and The Vandellas [[Del-Fi's/Del-Phi's) backed up on many of the Joe Hunter/Fred Brown productions [[even as late as early 1964). So, as Joe Hunter was still leading The Funk Brothers in mid 1964, he could have brought the Supremes in to moonlight in mid 1963 [[while under contract to Motown, but still before they had any hits). OR, could Robert West have used The Primettes in 1960 or 1961, before they signed with Motown, and the song never had a release until J.J. Barnes' Mickay's release in 1963? However, the second scenario isn't very likely, asJ.J. Barnes wrote that song.

[marv2]

Robb, I have learned that there were a couple of other ladies involved with the "Primettes" recordings. They interviewed at least one of them and it was up on Youtube a few years back. If I find it I will share it here.

[robb_k]

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The girls singing background on The J.J. Barnes song don't sound like The Dell-Fi's or Vandellas, who usually backedBarnes, but sound like they could possibly have been The Supremes [[but I don't think they were). The singer on this demo record is "unknown", so it can't be J.J. Barnes, as Craig certainly must have heard that version before.

Maybe the lead is one of the same two male singers [[James Dee [[Duddley) or Walt Jessup) who had those small indie New York label releases in 1962-63 [[on Enrica and Pussy Cat Records), giving The Primettes label credit? I've listened to those New York productions, and they sound nothing like Detroit, and the voices sound nothing like The Supremes.

I'm very curious to hear "Teenage Queen", especially to hear if it's the same track, or, at least the same song as J.J. Barnes sang.

I hope that whoever buys it will want to get help authenticating it, and will post at least snippets of it on a forum I frequent [[this one, or Soulful Detroit's Motown Forum), so we can hear it.

Here's a link to sound file snippets of the unreleased record's 2 demo recordings:
http://www.recordsbymail.com/uploads/October_2010/teenage-queen.mp3

[robb_k]

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Here's a link to sound file snippets of the unreleased record's 2 demo recordings:
http://www.recordsbymail.com/uploads...nage-queen.mp3 [[http://www.recordsbymail.com/uploads/October_2010/teenage-queen.mp3)

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j56/Robb_K/quotSomeonequot-J.J.Barnes_zpsaxt9ejyq.png [[http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Robb_K/media/quotSomeonequot-J.J.Barnes_zpsaxt9ejyq.png.html)

Based on those two snippets, I can tell that the recordings were made in Detroit. And, it IS, indeed, the song "Teenage Queen", written by Joe Hunter and Fred brown. And the musicians sound like Joe Hunter's band [[same as those used with j.j. Barnes. The male lead vocalist's voice sounds very familiar 9a known Detroit artist). His voice is smoother and higher than J.J.'s. The other song, "Someone"? is unknown to me. The sound is from 1962. The girls' voices could possibly be The Supremes. i definitely do NOT hear Diana Ross' voice. I don't know if i hear Mary or Flo. Can't tell if Barbara Martin is there. I guess, the songs could also be from 1961 [[potentially before The primettes signed with Motown. I wonder where Craig got the information that The primettes were on that record. The girls in the background are certainly not The Del-Fi's/Vandellas. We need to find out more about these 2 recordings.

[robb_k]

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Although the voice of the male lead sounds a bit higher and smoother than J.J.'s, it has some of his mannerisms. And, as Barnes wrote the song, I can't help thinking that maybe this recording was a 1960 or 1961 recording by J.J., for Fred Brown's Kable Records, and J.J.'s Mickay's Records version of "Teenage Queen" [[from late 1963 or early 1964) was a remake. I would bet against the background girls being The Primettes, without seeing some evidence. I wonder what Craig isn't telling us?

[luke]

I also remember seeing that on YouTube Marv.

[theboyfromxtown]

I cant hear the Primettes on Teenage Queen.

[marv2]

One of the girls that sang on some Primettes recordings was named Betty Kendrick, not be confused with Betty McGlown.