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TomatoTom123
09-20-2016, 04:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRB_mG63a4#action=share
"Help Yourself" by The Undisputed Truth


Sometimes I think I am going mad - is this track absolutely brilliant or is it just me?

A funk/disco floorfiller masterpiece, courtesy of the brilliant Norman Whitfield

I should mention that this was recorded by the criminally-underrated second line-up of The Undisputed Truth...

The members were Tyrone "Lil Ty" Barkeley, Tyrone "Big Ty" Douglas, Calvin "Dhaak" Stephenson [[or "Doc"), Virginia "V" McDonald [[or "Vee") and - of course - Joe "Pep" Harris!

marv2
09-20-2016, 05:23 PM
Hey thanks TomatoTom123 for this one. I haven't seen it before.

marv2
09-20-2016, 05:55 PM
Now I have to figure out the year and which grouping this one was LOL!

johnny_raven
09-20-2016, 06:01 PM
This aired March 16, 1974

marv2
09-20-2016, 06:28 PM
This aired March 16, 1974

Thank you Johnny. So this is just a few years before they went "Galactic" LOL

TomatoTom123
09-20-2016, 06:52 PM
You're welcome!
And yea, this was just before Norman Whitfield "reinvented" the group with Funkadelic-influenced space-themed music and weird outfits...

BEFORE
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AFTER
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TomatoTom123
09-20-2016, 06:55 PM
Just to be clear, they are the same people!!!

Because of my love for The Undisputed Truth, I have finally found out who is who:

In the first photo, Joe is on the far left, Big Ty is in the middle at the front, Lil Ty is on the far right, the "Doc" is at the back in the middle and Vee is in the top right

[[In the second photo, well, you're on your own... LOL!) :)

marv2
09-20-2016, 07:12 PM
Just to be clear, they are the same people!!!

Because of my love for The Undisputed Truth, I have finally found out who is who:

In the first photo, Joe is on the far left, Big Ty is in the middle at the front, Lil Ty is on the far right, the "Doc" is at the back in the middle and Vee is in the top right

[[In the second photo, well, you're on your own... LOL!) :)

Taka Boom replaced her right?

TomatoTom123
09-20-2016, 07:14 PM
Yea, when they left Motown and followed Norman to Whitfield Records, Vee and Big Ty left - Vee was replaced by Taka Boom!

Taka lead them on their 1976 disco hit "You + Me = Love"

marv2
09-20-2016, 07:21 PM
Yea, when they left Motown and followed Norman to Whitfield Records, Vee and Big Ty left - Vee was replaced by Taka Boom!

Taka lead them on their 1976 disco hit "You + Me = Love"

That was a great record. I remember it well. Thanks TomatoTom123.

TomatoTom123
09-20-2016, 07:25 PM
True [[it is a fantastic song), and you're welcome!

soulwally
09-21-2016, 10:59 AM
"Help Yourself" by The Undisputed Truth


Sometimes I think I am going mad - is this track absolutely brilliant or is it just me?

A funk/disco floorfiller masterpiece, courtesy of the brilliant Norman Whitfield

I should mention that this was recorded by the criminally-underrated second line-up of The Undisputed Truth...

The members were Tyrone "Lil Ty" Barkeley, Tyrone "Big Ty" Douglas, Calvin "Dhaak" Stephenson [[or "Doc"), Virginia "V" McDonald [[or "Vee") and - of course - Joe "Pep" Harris!
...and I'm a fool for this track, same feel as Help Yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n73qcRr5s4

TomatoTom123
09-21-2016, 11:11 AM
YESS, Love that one too!!!
They are both absolutely FANTASTIC

I feel more sane, Thanks, soulwally! :)

honest man
09-21-2016, 11:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRB_mG63a4#action=share
"Help Yourself" by The Undisputed Truth


Sometimes I think I am going mad - is this track absolutely brilliant or is it just me?

A funk/disco floorfiller masterpiece, courtesy of the brilliant Norman Whitfield

I should mention that this was recorded by the criminally-underrated second line-up of The Undisputed Truth...

The members were Tyrone "Lil Ty" Barkeley, Tyrone "Big Ty" Douglas, Calvin "Dhaak" Stephenson [[or "Doc"), Virginia "V" McDonald [[or "Vee") and - of course - Joe "Pep" Harris!Love this Norman Whitfield period also his Yvonne Fair productions,cheers.

TomatoTom123
09-21-2016, 03:15 PM
Love this Norman Whitfield period also his Yvonne Fair productions,cheers.

Yes, he was a genius! Love Yvonne Fair, too, especially her classic "It Should Have Been Me"

BayouMotownMan
09-21-2016, 08:31 PM
Yes, he was a genius! Love Yvonne Fair, too, especially her classic "It Should Have Been Me"

This should have been a huge hit, but that is Billie Rae Calvin's beautiful voice on this song.

Philles/Motown Gary
09-21-2016, 11:51 PM
Norman Whitfield's uptempo productions on The Undisputed Truth were HOT -- especially under the headphones! "Help Yourself" and "I'm A Food For You" were no exception.

TomatoTom123
09-22-2016, 02:35 AM
This should have been a huge hit, but that is Billie Rae Calvin's beautiful voice on this song.

Ah - I believe that Billie Calvin left The Truth about a year before this, and it is actually Virginia "V" McDonald who sings lead with Joe on both "Help Yourself" and "I'm A Fool For You".
Virginia [[or just "Vee") is who you see in the brilliant video at the top!

TomatoTom123
09-22-2016, 02:37 AM
Norman Whitfield's uptempo productions on The Undisputed Truth were HOT -- especially under the headphones! "Help Yourself" and "I'm A Food For You" were no exception.

Couldn't have said it better!!!

TomatoTom123
10-03-2016, 11:42 AM
This incredibly FUNK-TASTIC dance number from 1975...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxlvzOOZEtc&app=desktop

"Higher Than High" by The Undisputed Truth

TomatoTom123
04-01-2017, 11:55 AM
I was listening to Rose Royce's version of this utterly fantastic song today and thought I'd post it here for comparison...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Yj4KcSHDI&app=desktop

:D

motony
04-01-2017, 12:35 PM
so much good Motown stuff that got lost in the shuffle & not promoted in the 70's.

masterblaster
04-05-2017, 07:01 AM
Just discovered 'Sunshine' on their 'Method To The Madness' album, Wow!
Although Norman Whitfield is mostly associated with the funky psychedelic sounds, he was a genius when it came to slow ballads. Always loved the Rose Royce slow stuff like 'I Wanna Get Next To You' and 'I'm In Love' which were a progression from the superb Temptaions ballads of the 70's. Think a compilation of Whitfields ballads would be great.

TomatoTom123
04-05-2017, 07:15 AM
so much good Motown stuff that got lost in the shuffle & not promoted in the 70's.

Yes indeed Tony! This has to be one of my all time FAVE songs, and yet it didn't even crack the Top 40. Crazy! That must be due to lack of promotion, surely!!!

TomatoTom123
04-05-2017, 07:29 AM
Just discovered 'Sunshine' on their 'Method To The Madness' album, Wow!
Although Norman Whitfield is mostly associated with the funky psychedelic sounds, he was a genius when it came to slow ballads. Always loved the Rose Royce slow stuff like 'I Wanna Get Next To You' and 'I'm In Love' which were a progression from the superb Temptaions ballads of the 70's. Think a compilation of Whitfields ballads would be great.

Yes, very interesting point, masterblaster. While both Norman Whitfield and The Undisputed Truth are better known for [[and they did more of) their funky pyschedelic soul, when they did do ballads, they were fantastic. I recently discovered the group's lovely rendition of "Just My Imagination", which is just great. "Girl, You're Alright" is also a very nice mid-tempo ballad. Oh and I almost forgot "Since I've Lost You" which The Undisputed Truth did an excellent version of!

"Sunshine" is indeed a superb and beautiful ballad, too. A Whitfield ballad compilation would be just great!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IVzQ8NPJ7g&app=desktop

TomatoTom123
04-05-2017, 07:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsL5Z9UFW4g&app=desktop

TomatoTom123
04-05-2017, 07:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1AG_QJorDU&app=desktop

TomatoTom123
04-05-2017, 07:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdAG4saW-fw&app=desktop

Just beautiful... has that "Just My Imagination" vibe to it. As well as the legendary Joe "Pep" Harris, the song also features lead vocals from Tyrone "Lil Ty" Barkley, who sadly passed this February. This is truly a mini-masterpiece, and one of Lil Ty's best vocal performances!

masterblaster
04-05-2017, 11:06 AM
Wow, lovely rendition of a Temps track, different enough to make it their own. Wish this was available on CD.

masterblaster
04-05-2017, 11:28 AM
Wow, Tomato Tom, just heard 'Talkin' To The Wind ' on the 'Smokin' ' album, another hidden gem, confirming the genius that was Norman Whitfield. I want all the Undistputed Truths albums to uncover all thier slow ballads. Previous thread was referring to Just My Imagination by the way, this group can do no wrong imo.

As you've probably guessed, I purchased the 'Method To The Madness / Smokin' twofer this week, what a great package at a very reasonable price. Bought for the hits, but all the other tracks are outstanding.

TomatoTom123
04-05-2017, 01:52 PM
Yes indeed, masterblaster, their version of "Just My Imagination" is just lovely. It's familiar but not too similar to The Tempts' original. :)

I'm just checking out "Talkin' To The Wind" right now and, wow, it's great! Sadly I'm not familiar enough with this incarnation of the group [[1979) and don't know who is singing. He's really great though. I will have to get that double CD in the near future!!!

But trust me, masterblaster, The Undisputed Truth really were amazing, and Norman whitfield really was a musical genius! And here is all the evidence you'd need to prove that... it's nothing less than a 11-minute disco-funk extravaganza-masterpiece!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFIVfgeJ35Y&app=desktop