Tempts 2016: Bruce Williamson and Joe Herndon are out

[midnightman]

Just was on Facebook and someone posted on one of the Temptations' fan pages there this picture of the new Tempts lineup:

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The new Tempts are Larry Braggs and Willie Greene.

Heard they sound real good though.

I joked, "how many lineups is that now? 100?" Lol

[blackguy69]

It is funny that people complain that the Supremes line up change when the temptation had enough members to start their own basketball league lol.

[StuBass1]

I saw this on a Billy Bannister post on Facebook. I happened to attend an Otis Temptations performance this past year here in L.A. It's still hard for me to see any of the current Temptation incarnations since I was witness to the real original Tempts back in the day and they could never be duplicated. Also, in addition to Otis putting on a few pounds, Bruce took up a WHOLE lot of space on stage and almost looked like a pulling offensive guard on their routines next to the other guys...nothing like the full on consistant precision of the Classics. That said...Larry Braggs is a very versatile singer who spent many years as the front man for Tower of Power, replaced by Ray Greene who is another talented on stage artist.

[marv2]

Just was on Facebook and someone posted on one of the Temptations' fan pages there this picture of the new Tempts lineup:

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The new Tempts are Larry Braggs and Willie Greene.

Heard they sound real good though.

I joked, "how many lineups is that now? 100?" Lol

We'll have to add this lineup to my thread "Why So Many Temptations?" LOL! I knew things had been pretty quiet and stable in Temptations Land recently. Oh well.....welcome Larry and Willie! LOL!

[marv2]

It is funny that people complain that the Supremes line up change when the temptation had enough members to start their own basketball league lol.


You got that right! The Supremes were "a revolving door". The Temptations? Just business as usual..............

[midnightman]

We'll have to add this lineup to my thread "Why So Many Temptations?" LOL! I knew things had been pretty quiet and stable in Temptations Land recently. Oh well.....welcome Larry and Willie! LOL!

I tried to find the thread but I felt it was flooded with so many articles LOL

[soulwally]

You got that right! The Supremes were "a revolving door". The Temptations? Just business as usual..............
What's Larry going to do with all his solo dates? http://www.larrybraggsmusic.com/
From what I've heard he's more 'tenor' than David or Dennis, and indeed Bruce, nowhere near as rough-sounding.

[marybrewster]

It is funny that people complain that the Supremes line up change when the temptation had enough members to start their own basketball league lol.

LEAGUE, LOL.

I wonder, do the new member have to squeeze into the costumes like the back-in-the-day Supremes?

[MIKEW-UK]

There was a Willie Green with Nate Evans Tribute to the Temptations outfit. I wonder if it is the same guy?

[arr&bee]

Oh well,i guess all we can say is that the temps are still here with one original still doin it.....temptations forever!!

[Bluebrock]

You got that right! The Supremes were "a revolving door". The Temptations? Just business as usual..............
I think the fact that there were 5 Temps as opposed to 3 Supremes meant that a departure was not so easily noticed by the general public. Also the Temps bless them were not so much in the public eye as the Supremes were. You have to hand it to them. The Temps have showcased a considerable number of superb vocalists over the years and continue to do so. They have survived personnel changes far better than their old rivals The Four Tops.

[arr&bee]

Maybe someone should call the book of records folks cause otis has got to have the record for total group members,and wouldn't it be just temptin if he got one more million seller,go for it otis.

[edafan]

according to my records: there have been 24 Temptations.
It is 23 plus Otis.

A Temptation is defined as singing with Otis Williams 1960 on

edafan

[midnightman]

I think the fact that there were 5 Temps as opposed to 3 Supremes meant that a departure was not so easily noticed by the general public. Also the Temps bless them were not so much in the public eye as the Supremes were. You have to hand it to them. The Temps have showcased a considerable number of superb vocalists over the years and continue to do so. They have survived personnel changes far better than their old rivals The Four Tops.

That is true lol

[marv2]

There was a Willie Green with Nate Evans Tribute to the Temptations outfit. I wonder if it is the same guy?

They could be using Nate Evans group as a Farm Team. LOL

[jobeterob]

The Temptations have been remarkable for their ability to morph and continue.

It limits the number of knock off imitation tributes that surface.

Otis might not be the best liked guy but he ran the business pretty efficiently.

Nice picture from Facebook yesterday.

[luke]

Id think it increases the formerly of the temptations groups.

[marv2]

What's Larry going to do with all his solo dates? http://www.larrybraggsmusic.com/
From what I've heard he's more 'tenor' than David or Dennis, and indeed Bruce, nowhere near as rough-sounding.


I think he'll have little problem getting out of most of those gigs.

[stingbeelee]

I don't think you can compare the Temptations personnel changes to the Four Top's changes. Changes were forced upon the Four Tops; Otis, for reasons only known to him, brought people in and out of the Tempts. I firmly believe that if all Four Tops were alive today, all four of them would be together today.

[marv2]

I don't think you can compare the Temptations personnel changes to the Four Top's changes. Changes were forced upon the Four Tops; Otis, for reasons only known to him, brought people in and out of the Tempts. I firmly believe that if all Four Tops were alive today, all four of them would be together today.

Stingbeelee, I am 100% certain they'd still be together and thank you for making that point.

[marv2]

I can image guys coming into the group wondering how long they will last.

[stingbeelee]

What I would like to know is who is an official "Temptation". Is Ron Tyson, who has been in the Temptations for 32 years a "Temptation" or just a hired hand? Are there only two official "Temptations" - Otis Williams and the Melvin Franklin estate? I ask this because I can recall reading an article, years ago, about the Rolling Stones making someone an official "Rolling Stone" [[I think it was Ron Wood) and not just someone hired to play with them.

[soulwally]

This Larry bowing out from Tower of Power in 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8fh2xQ3Z1Y

[midnightman]

I don't think you can compare the Temptations personnel changes to the Four Top's changes. Changes were forced upon the Four Tops; Otis, for reasons only known to him, brought people in and out of the Tempts. I firmly believe that if all Four Tops were alive today, all four of them would be together today.

Definitely. Death forced the Four Tops to change lineups. I imagine if something happened to Duke, the Four Tops would cease to exist since I imagine the original Tops owned the name.

[StuBass1]

This Larry bowing out from Tower of Power in 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8fh2xQ3Z1Y

Also joining Larry on YSAYM was the original singer on that track [[before Lenny WIlliams) Rick Stevens. Rick left TOP and was involved in a triple homicide on a drug deal gone bad. He was sentenced to death in California. When the death penalty was briefly overturned in California, Ricks sentence was commuted to life in prison. He did get out fairly recently after serving several decades. Rick was apparently NOT asked to join the Tempts...

[Bluebrock]

I don't think you can compare the Temptations personnel changes to the Four Top's changes. Changes were forced upon the Four Tops; Otis, for reasons only known to him, brought people in and out of the Tempts. I firmly believe that if all Four Tops were alive today, all four of them would be together today.
I was never trying to imply otherwise, and if that is the way it came over then i sincerely apologise. I fully agree that the Tops would still be together in their original form if fate had not dictated otherwise. The point i attempted to make was that despite so many personnel changes the Temptations always seem to survive them very well indeed. You have to give great credit to Otis for this whatever you may think of him as a person and i am not about to go into that here.

[rod_rick]

Definitely. Death forced the Four Tops to change lineups. I imagine if something happened to Duke, the Four Tops would cease to exist since I imagine the original Tops owned the name.

I doubt if Duke would seek to exist that the Tops would stop. Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes still perform as Harold Melvin's Bluenotes. So I would imagine that the estate would get paid.

[midnightman]

^ Not saying it's impossible but I felt a group continuing with an original member stands out than a group who carries on with the estate's blessing...

[StuBass1]

^ Not saying it's impossible but I felt a group continuing with an original member stands out than a group who carries on with the estate's blessing...
Obviously, the most authentic replacement groups are the ones where the original lead singer remains and fills in the holes of departed members...Like Russell Thompkins and his group, or even The WHO replacing the departed John Entwistle and Keith Moon but maintained the familiar voices...Since most groups break up when the lead singer embarks on a solo career, groups who are able to maintain two or three originals, even as backups, do retain a level of credibility. Groups or bands operating with little trace of the originals other than obtaining the blessings of the families of former original members are really nothing more to me than any other "nostalgia" tribute group or band...some better than others...Speaking of Tower of Power, while they did change lead singers after Lenny Williams left as the most recognizable voice...their replacements have generally maintained a very reasonable facsimile of the original sound...of course the primary musicians remaining, especially Emilio, Doc, Rocco, and Garibaldi maintained the core sound of the band true to it's roots...

[stingbeelee]

Hi Bluebrock;
Please, no apologizes needed! Yes, the Tempts do survive and probably get more gigs than they can handle. Both Otis and Duke are getting up in age; Duke is 80, how much longer can he go on? I know that Tony Bennett is 89, but he does not do choreography like Duke does. I hope that Duke goes on for years, but one has to wonder about the toll on his body. I hope that my reaction to your post was not over the top. Happy New Year to you!

[StuBass1]

I have no doubt that had they survived, The Four Tops would have remained together as a unit. It really came down to Levi who felt much more comfortable performing with his mates than embarking on a solo career...and according to those I've spoken with who had the opportunity to work with the Tops at various points in their career...they were without a doubt the most professional, reliable, and stable of any ensembles out there...

[arr&bee]

I think that as long as otis is physically able and has four others on that stage,that there will be-the temptations.

[StuBass1]

I think that as long as otis is physically able and has four others on that stage,that there will be-the temptations.
I agree, and can hardly blame him so long as venues are willing to pay him...One thing I remember from their show this past year I attended was that just before the show, a couple of guys wheeled out a big table right onto the stage in front of the band with about two dozen small arrowhead plastic water bottles and it remained there throughout the show with the guys going for the water from time to time. I suppose when they start leaving bottles of Geritol on that table, it might be time to give it up...lol

[arr&bee]

Haaaaaa,yeah i think that would be a sign.

[marv2]

I think that as long as otis is physically able and has four others on that stage,that there will be-the temptations.


Oh I definitely agree with that. Otis is another one that never seems to age.

[marv2]

I remember how sad it was watching Marvin Junior of the Dells having to sit down off and on through the Dells latter shows. Johnny looked very winded too. Sad.

[captainjames]

Along with Otis I would just like to sat thanks to Ron Tyson for remaining with the group so long.

[StuBass1]

And now I just learned that Bruce and Joe are starting their OWN Temptations Review...Unbelievable...Paul, David, Eddie, and Melvin must be rolling over in their graves...RIP

[marv2]

And now I just learned that Bruce and Joe are starting their OWN Temptations Review...Unbelievable...Paul, David, Eddie, and Melvin must be rolling over in their graves...RIP

So I will take that to mean the split was not amicable.

[Bluebrock]

Hi Bluebrock;
Please, no apologizes needed! Yes, the Tempts do survive and probably get more gigs than they can handle. Both Otis and Duke are getting up in age; Duke is 80, how much longer can he go on? I know that Tony Bennett is 89, but he does not do choreography like Duke does. I hope that Duke goes on for years, but one has to wonder about the toll on his body. I hope that my reaction to your post was not over the top. Happy New Year to you!
Thank you for that stingbeelee and a Happy New Year to you too!
Duke is a legend and a lovely guy but i agree it would be nigh impossible for him to carry on much longer. When he does eventually retire i hope the group retires as well, though i suspect that may not be the case

[StuBass1]

So I will take that to mean the split was not amicable.
I get the impression that as usual, money was involved...I also assume that if any more of these groups start to proliferate, The newbies way down the food chain will be happy that they just passed a new minimum wage...

[marv2]

I get the impression that as usual, money was involved...I also assume that if any more of these groups start to proliferate, The newbies way down the food chain will be happy that they just passed a new minimum wage...

Being born in 1970, I did not understand how Bruce was suppose to uphold the Temptations tradition when he is not even in the range........

[StuBass1]

Being born in 1970, I did not understand how Bruce was suppose to uphold the Temptations tradition when he is not even in the range........
I guess he's banking on the fact that he knows the tunes...

[arr&bee]

Sometimes imitation is not flattery.

[midnightman]

And now I just learned that Bruce and Joe are starting their OWN Temptations Review...Unbelievable...Paul, David, Eddie, and Melvin must be rolling over in their graves...RIP

Not only rolling but steaming mad... I reckon anyway. Ugh.

[midnightman]

Being born in 1970, I did not understand how Bruce was suppose to uphold the Temptations tradition when he is not even in the range........

So I take it that Bruce was the youngest Temptations member ever then...

[rod_rick]

Bruce Williamson gave a response to his leaving the Temptations on his Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/ImBigBruce

[MIKEW-UK]

Willie Greene did a whole lot of bass vocals for artists such as Ry Cooder. Here he is on backing vocals providing bass throughout a live concert.....along with Bobby King and Terry Evans. Fast forward to 37.10 if you want to see the three singers perform together....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlcjR1cuwrs

[paladin]

Can't wait to see the new line up. Both Bruce and Joe have expressed their confidence in Otis & the group going forward. Bruce has openly discussed his weight issues and his true calling to the gospel field. Joe has been dealing with health issues and deaths in his family. Both of them have acted as consummate professionals so I guess we'll have to wait and see how they perform on stage and if and when they will attempt to release another record. On a side note if Willie Ford's Dramatics can release a new track [[Victoria) I'm sure that The Temptations can too.....another reinvention yes......hopefully they'll be successful. Happy New Year everyone.

[marv2]

I guess he's banking on the fact that he knows the tunes...


That has to be it. However, he is young enough to create something new [[well age is really not an issue) he could develop a whole new, separate act that doesn't piggy back off of his Temptation experience.

[marv2]

Can't wait to see the new line up. Both Bruce and Joe have expressed their confidence in Otis & the group going forward. Bruce has openly discussed his weight issues and his true calling to the gospel field. Joe has been dealing with health issues and deaths in his family. Both of them have acted as consummate professionals so I guess we'll have to wait and see how they perform on stage and if and when they will attempt to release another record. On a side note if Willie Ford's Dramatics can release a new track [[Victoria) I'm sure that The Temptations can too.....another reinvention yes......hopefully they'll be successful. Happy New Year everyone.


Happy New Year Paladin!

[marv2]

So I take it that Bruce was the youngest Temptations member ever then...

Yes he was. To put in a context, he was born when the Temptations had "Ball of Confusion" on the charts.

[paladin]

same to you Marv, here's something you may not have seen.....10943

[paladin]

Here is Bruce's take in his own words :
Bruce Williamson :

Truthfully speaking.... I have gained to much weight to continue to be apart of the the line up. Although my weight gain never stop me from doing my job...... Real talk....
My season has been up for over two years now, I stayed because of my loyalty to Otis and the group. Otis did something that I would have never have the courage to do myself, my single and live album would have been selling millions of copies, and I still would have been trying to Adjust GOD'S agenda for my life around the Temptations schedule. My heart is in worship ministry!!!! Now I have the liberty through faith to pursue my purpose in Christ with reckless abandon. I called Otis Christmas Eve, and thanked him for his decision. 9 1/2 years God saw fit for me to serve as the lead singer of the greatest group of all time!!!



P.S. Larry Briggs is a VOCAL BEAST!!!! Temptation Land... You are in good hands!!!!!

[StuBass1]

Bruce appears to be a class at all the way, and Joe too...As I mentioned and Bruce alluded to...Bruces weight and stature gave the group a much different look on stage that was optically different than the classic Temptations which in some cases diminished fans expectations. That said...Bruce is a talented singer, however, I believe that going out as yet another Temptations incarnation is a mistake. He should pursue the type of music that suits his particular skill set...be it Gospel or his own brand of contemporary music. I don't think the new Temptations lineup with Larry Braggs will be doing much Tower of Power material...

[midnightman]

Glad to see there was not much drama with this latest split. Bruce and Joe are definitely class acts.

[juicefree20]

I remember how sad it was watching Marvin Junior of the Dells having to sit down off and on through the Dells latter shows. Johnny looked very winded too. Sad.

Hey Marv, how ya been!

In the case of Marvin Junior, we have to give him a pass on the sitting, as that was in part due to some of the damage done by that auto accident that nearly killed The Dells back in 1958.

[juicefree20]

So I will take that to mean the split was not amicable.

I saw a video the other day that Bruce had made with his arm draped around Otis. He was saying that there was no animosity, that Otis was like a father to him & had taught him a lot.

It was on Facebook & in the comments, someone was asking about Joe & saying that they were worried about him & I was wondering what the video & comment was all about.

Then I saw Joe posted a graphic thanking the fans & saying that he was leaving the group & then a day or so later, I saw that both were no longer in the group. I haven't heard anything other than what they both have said & didn't call anyone to find out more because I'm sure that they're getting plenty of messages as is.

Either way, I wish them, Otis & The Temps, Bruce, all the best, especially Joe, who is a hell of a nice guy, with one hell of a bass voice!

[marv2]

Hey Marv, how ya been!

In the case of Marvin Junior, we have to give him a pass on the sitting, as that was in part due to some of the damage done by that auto accident that nearly killed The Dells back in 1958.

Juice! How are ya?! I'm fine , fighting the fight!!! You need to come around here more often [[hint!)
I had not known Marvin Junior was still suffering from that terrible accident God Bless his soul.

[midnightman]

Hey Marv, how ya been!

In the case of Marvin Junior, we have to give him a pass on the sitting, as that was in part due to some of the damage done by that auto accident that nearly killed The Dells back in 1958.

Aww... I remember how the group nearly died from this incident. I hope Unsung does them soon before all the members die!

[juicefree20]

Aww... I remember how the group nearly died from this incident. I hope Unsung does them soon before all the members die!

Considering that the movie "The Five Heartbeats" is loosely based on their story, as well as the fact that the movie remains very popular with young people, one would think that "Unsung" would've done an episode on them years ago.

Instead we get Kid 'N Play or X-scape.

Who's next, Milli Vanilli?

[midnightman]

Considering that the movie "The Five Heartbeats" is loosely based on their story, as well as the fact that the movie remains very popular with young people, one would think that "Unsung" would've done an episode on them years ago.

Instead we get Kid 'N Play or X-scape.

Who's next, Milli Vanilli?

I know. And KNP's Unsung was one of their worst episodes. I didn't even bother watching Xscape... the Dells have the real "Unsung" story!

[juicefree20]

Juice! How are ya?! I'm fine , fighting the fight!!! You need to come around here more often [[hint!)
I had not known Marvin Junior was still suffering from that terrible accident God Bless his soul.

All is cool Marv & though I don't lurk, I plan on stopping through more often.

The thing is that injuries such the ones that he sustained tend to leave one more susceptible to aches & pains, arthritis & seem to show up as we get older. In the case of The Dells, they weren't steppers 9n the mold of The Temptations or The Whispers, so it wasn't paramount for Marvin to have to be out in front all of the time.

We were just glad to see him & to hear him sing. The Dells could've stood there reciting their ABC's & I'd have been glad to see them. I respect them that much.

[marv2]

All is cool Marv & though I don't lurk, I plan on stopping through more often.

The thing is that injuries such the ones that he sustained tend to leave one more susceptible to aches & pains, arthritis & seem to show up as we get older. In the case of The Dells, they weren't steppers 9n the mold of The Temptations or The Whispers, so it wasn't paramount for Marvin to have to be out in front all of the time.

We were just glad to see him & to hear him sing. The Dells could've stood there reciting their ABC's & I'd have been glad to see them. I respect them that much.

You are right about the Dells. It's strange, I've never known a time without the Dells.

[paladin]

Marvin's knee's were in terrible shape, he was in constant pain and wore leg braces to get through performances. They solved this aesthetic problem by having Chuck, Michael & Verne step to their right while Johnny and Marvin stayed on the opposite side. They were all troopers and if you didn't know you wouldn't.

[midnightman]

I wonder how Marvin was onstage before that accident... I imagine the accident played a part in Johnny Funches eventually quitting the Dells amicably as well [[besides having a family by that point).

[heikki]

Hi Midnightman!

The Dells auditioned for Dinah Washington in 1961.
Michael McGill: "We passed the audition. When it was time for us to leave [[on tour), Johnny Funches said that he didn't want to leave his job and he couldn't go back on the road and get back into show business."
[[Soul Express: The Dells story, part 2)

Best regards
Heikki

[marv2]

Considering that the movie "The Five Heartbeats" is loosely based on their story, as well as the fact that the movie remains very popular with young people, one would think that "Unsung" would've done an episode on them years ago.

Instead we get Kid 'N Play or X-scape.

Who's next, Milli Vanilli?

You are so right about Unsung. According to Marvin Junior and Mickey McGill, the movie was really about them. Marvin relayed the story of the guy being held out the window by his ankles really happened, except in real life the guy was Jackie Wilson. Marvin said that they gave Robert Townsend most of their story to be used in the film. Mickey got emotional about it saying that he might now want to see the film because it was true, maybe a bit too true to relive.

[marv2]

Hi Midnightman!

The Dells auditioned for Dinah Washington in 1961.
Michael McGill: "We passed the audition. When it was time for us to leave [[on tour), Johnny Funches said that he didn't want to leave his job and he couldn't go back on the road and get back into show business."
[[Soul Express: The Dells story, part 2)

Best regards
Heikki

Thank you Heikki. I remember hearing that also.

[ms_m]

I don't think you can compare the Temptations personnel changes to the Four Top's changes. Changes were forced upon the Four Tops; Otis, for reasons only known to him, brought people in and out of the Tempts. I firmly believe that if all Four Tops were alive today, all four of them would be together today.

I'm not as firm in my belief they would still be together as you are but I'd definitely like to think they would be.

The death of Lawrence, Obie and Levi's illness and ultimate death forced changes but after that....think Theo!

I like Joe Herndon, he's really good peeps and I was sorry to find out he was no longer with the group. Bruce was a big boy but he was light on his feet and a really good singer. I enjoyed his performances. To be honest, I'm actually surprised Terry Weeks is still around but hey...a job is a job so I can dig it.

I miss Melvin the most and although not an original I miss Ali. I respect Otis but Tyson is the only reason for me to continue to follow the Tempts. Haven't been to a show in awhile but looks like it's time for me to hit the road again.:)

[arr&bee]

I'm not a tyson fan,although i liked him in the ethics,i wish that glenn had kept his stuff together and stayed in the temps...but then i wish i was still twenty one,hehehehehehehe!!!

[marv2]

I'm not a tyson fan,although i liked him in the ethics,i wish that glenn had kept his stuff together and stayed in the temps...but then i wish i was still twenty one,hehehehehehehe!!!

I heard that ...about still being 21. I too remember that I was not that excited when they replaced Glen Leonard with Ron Tyson. He's now been with the Tempts for over 30 years. Who would have known.

[ms_m]

Here is the thing about the Tempts for me. After awhile all the personnel changes started to wear on me so I kinda walked away from them. When I met Tyson and Ali - the guys were working on the Truly For You CD and when it finally came out, it blew me away. From the first time I heard it until now, there is not a bad song in the mix. [[ imo) So I would have to say, those guys made the Tempts fun for me again. So yeah, I feel a certain loyalty to Tyson. shrugs

[destruction]

You sure that wasn't Victrola?


Can't wait to see the new line up. Both Bruce and Joe have expressed their confidence in Otis & the group going forward. Bruce has openly discussed his weight issues and his true calling to the gospel field. Joe has been dealing with health issues and deaths in his family. Both of them have acted as consummate professionals so I guess we'll have to wait and see how they perform on stage and if and when they will attempt to release another record. On a side note if Willie Ford's Dramatics can release a new track [[Victoria) I'm sure that The Temptations can too.....another reinvention yes......hopefully they'll be successful. Happy New Year everyone.

[destruction]

My blood is the color of the Temptations Live album.

When the girls[[now 17 and 18) and I saw them about 7 years ago they loved Bruce and Joe. My 17 year old used to fancy herself a bass singer at age 4 [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD_jf18tiPY).

My oldest also fell in love with Theo's voice at the same concert. She likes people who, as she puts it, "Stand and Deliver."

A month ago, on the way to the mall with my youngest and 3 of her friends, I played the a capella version of Ball of Confusion. It was funny listening to girls giggle every time Melvin and Qwan sang, "and the band played on". And they marveled how we came in on time with the vocals......without music. She told them, "I've been listening to this song forever".

[destruction]

And....I remember finally getting a chance to chat with Ron Tyson a few years ago and discussing how it took me 25 years to get over the fact that he was a "new" member.

.....and Thank You.

[midnightman]

Hi Midnightman!

The Dells auditioned for Dinah Washington in 1961.
Michael McGill: "We passed the audition. When it was time for us to leave [[on tour), Johnny Funches said that he didn't want to leave his job and he couldn't go back on the road and get back into show business."
[[Soul Express: The Dells story, part 2)

Best regards
Heikki

Just now seeing this. Thanks! :)