Where is Barbara Martin?

[Weslley Francisco]

Where is Barbara Martin from The Supremes [[1961-1962) Today?

8803

I have not heard about it since always, is the only Supreme who have not appeared in the media, should have appeared at least for RTL Concert :eek::eek::eek:B

[marv2]

She is in Detroit.

[kenneth]

In the "Meet the Supremes" Expanded Edition there's a great interview of Barbara Martin by Mary. Very interesting and informative.

Marv, I'm surprised you didn't mention that!

[marv2]

In the "Meet the Supremes" Expanded Edition there's a great interview of Barbara Martin by Mary. Very interesting and informative.

Marv, I'm surprised you didn't mention that!

Look, sorry but Bill Bonds just died and I am watching retrospectives on him now.

[kenneth]

Look, sorry but Bill Bonds just died and I am watching retrospectives on him now.

Oh, Bill Bonds is a legend in the Detroit area. I'm sorry to hear that.

Of course, I was just teasing you. But sorry for my bad timing.

[jobeterob]

To the detriment of forgetting critical Mary Wilson input into the history of Motown and the Supremes???!!oxo?#sproing

[detmotownguy]

This is sad Marv. He had his issues, but was a good friend to many in Detroit and a heck of a Journalist. I remember the days of Diana Lewis and Doris Biscoe. They were quite a team.

[marv2]

This is sad Marv. He had his issues, but was a good friend to many in Detroit and a heck of a Journalist. I remember the days of Diana Lewis and Doris Biscoe. They were quite a team.

I most definitely remember both Diana Lewis and Doris Briscoe. I had a crush on both of them when I was a teenager. LOL!

Bill Bonds character and personality was truly Detroit made. His personal escapades were just as interesting to us as his on air news broadcasts. He was Detroit as much as Berry Gordy and Motown, Ford Motors, Faygo Pop, and the Tigers.

[detmotownguy]

I know this thread is abt Barbara Martin, but yeah most guys had a crush on that those ladies! It was nice to watch a highly intelligent news team. Of all the places I have lived, Detroit still has the best news. But channel 7 led the pack and I always felt they were great roles for females especially ie Doris Robbie Diana. Wasn't Maralyn Turner the first female "weather caster"?
I met Woody Willis a few back, another classy Hard working guy. Interesting circumstances!

[Roberta75]

Could we please keep this thread about former Supreme And nurse miss Barbara Martin.

thank you.

Roberta

[antceleb12]

Could we please keep this thread about former Supreme And nurse miss Barbara Martin.

thank you.

Roberta

Unless you know something about Barbara that is worthy of the discussion, let the conversation go how it goes.

Speaking of Barbara Martin, what about Betty McGlown? I know she passed away a few years back, but what did she do in those years after the Primettes?

[skooldem1]

Wasn't there a video clip posted here recently that had one of the Primettes speaking? Don't remember which one it was.

[skooldem1]

OK. I found the link/video. Was Barbara Terry-Bynum known as Barbara Martin? This is a very interesting clip. She talks about her time singing with the Primettes. Thanks to theboyfromxtown for the original post and video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NL6C0Uc55E#t=37

http://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?12232-A-little-piece-of-the-Primettes-history-revealed&highlight=Primettes

[jobeterob]

Thanks John from a long time ago and thanks Skooldem.

[kenneth]

That doesn't seem like Barbara Terry-Bynum is Barbara Martin, even though Barbara T-B says she sang on the Primettes record "Tears of Sorrow." I thought Barbara Martin had no association with show business after leaving the Supremes. It's also odd that this Barbara never refers to herself as "formerly known as" Barbara Martin, or any such thing. This lady seems like she'd talk more about it if she were really a Supreme. But how would she happen to have sung on "Tears of Sorrow?"

Does anyone know the history of this clip?

It's also interesting that Wiki says Barbara Martin didn't even sing on "Tears of Sorrow," that she was only on the Motown version of the original single.

Lu Pine version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Betty McGlown [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_McGlown)
Instrumentation by [[Unknown)

Motown version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Barbara Martin [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Martin_%28singer%29)
Instrumentation by The Funk Brothers [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Funk_Brothers)


The Barbara in the video above seems to have credibility but it's really difficult to believe she sang on the Primettes record when you consider these things together.

[blackguy69]

That doesn't seem like Barbara Terry-Bynum is Barbara Martin, even though Barbara T-B says she sang on the Primettes record "Tears of Sorrow." I thought Barbara Martin had no association with show business after leaving the Supremes. It's also odd that this Barbara never refers to herself as "formerly known as" Barbara Martin, or any such thing. This lady seems like she'd talk more about it if she were really a Supreme. But how would she happen to have sung on "Tears of Sorrow?"

Does anyone know the history of this clip?

It's also interesting that Wiki says Barbara Martin didn't even sing on "Tears of Sorrow," that she was only on the Motown version of the original single.

Lu Pine version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Betty McGlown [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_McGlown)
Instrumentation by [[Unknown)

Motown version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Barbara Martin [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Martin_%28singer%29)
Instrumentation by The Funk Brothers [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Funk_Brothers)


The Barbara in the video above seems to have credibility but it's really difficult to believe she sang on the Primettes record when you consider these things together. didn't Mary mentioned after Betty left but before Barbara joined Richard Morris brought in two other girls to the session and I think she did say one was a minister

[johnny_raven]

This isn't Barbara Martin. Mary introduced Martin at one of her shows 10, 15 years ago. There was a pic circulating at the time, which I can't find now.. Barbara Martin is more fair-skinned that Barbara T-B.

[marv2]

Unless you know something about Barbara that is worthy of the discussion, let the conversation go how it goes.

Speaking of Barbara Martin, what about Betty McGlown? I know she passed away a few years back, but what did she do in those years after the Primettes?

She got married and raised her kids. I met her back in 1987 when Mary came to Detroit for a book signing for "Dreamgirl, My Life As A Supreme".

[marv2]

I know this thread is abt Barbara Martin, but yeah most guys had a crush on that those ladies! It was nice to watch a highly intelligent news team. Of all the places I have lived, Detroit still has the best news. But channel 7 led the pack and I always felt they were great roles for females especially ie Doris Robbie Diana. Wasn't Maralyn Turner the first female "weather caster"?
I met Woody Willis a few back, another classy Hard working guy. Interesting circumstances!

Marilyn Turner [[John Kelly's wife.....remember?) was the first female weather caster I had ever saw. We could go down the list. Detroit had icons in local news, Sonny Elliott, Dave Dials, Mort Crim, Carmen Harlan, etc, etc.

[marv2]

That doesn't seem like Barbara Terry-Bynum is Barbara Martin, even though Barbara T-B says she sang on the Primettes record "Tears of Sorrow." I thought Barbara Martin had no association with show business after leaving the Supremes. It's also odd that this Barbara never refers to herself as "formerly known as" Barbara Martin, or any such thing. This lady seems like she'd talk more about it if she were really a Supreme. But how would she happen to have sung on "Tears of Sorrow?"

Does anyone know the history of this clip?

It's also interesting that Wiki says Barbara Martin didn't even sing on "Tears of Sorrow," that she was only on the Motown version of the original single.

Lu Pine version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Betty McGlown [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_McGlown)
Instrumentation by [[Unknown)

Motown version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Barbara Martin [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Martin_%28singer%29)
Instrumentation by The Funk Brothers [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Funk_Brothers)


The Barbara in the video above seems to have credibility but it's really difficult to believe she sang on the Primettes record when you consider these things together.

No Barbara Terry-Bynum is not Barbara Martin. They are not related and look nothing alike. I saw Barbara Martin back in 1994 in Detroit when she came to Mary's Chene Park Homecoming concert. She and Mary sang a small bit of "He's Seventeen" together. Barbara Martin is a very goodlooking woman.

[kenneth]

Thanks Marv...seems lots of people lay claims to have been in on the Supremes both in the early days as well as the days of glory. Hard to believe this woman, with all her industry experience, would make such a claim.

[marv2]

Thanks Marv...seems lots of people lay claims to have been in on the Supremes both in the early days as well as the days of glory. Hard to believe this woman, with all her industry experience, would make such a claim.

She may have done a session with the group.

[detmotownguy]

Marilyn Turner [[John Kelly's wife.....remember?) was the first female weather caster I had ever saw. We could go down the list. Detroit had icons in local news, Sonny Elliott, Dave Dials, Mort Crim, Carmen Harlan, etc, etc.

Dd u see Marilyn Turner host the Supremes - Mary Cindy and Sherrie when the 1975 album came out? I think they sang It All Been Said Before. The seemed so happy together and Mary did a great job leading the PR for the group. Their dance routine was real tight.

[detmotownguy]

The signing at the Ren Cen? Damn I missed here. Mary introduced Lois Reeves to the crowd of abt 300 and that was after lunch. The crowd was huge. I Remeber our office was pretty empty and late cause the line was so long. She took her time with every fan. Miss Ray and Patti also treated the fans right at the their book signing. Miss Ray looked so fine but damn she was so tired after being there all day. They offered her ride back to the hotel that was inside the Ren Cen - she was beat. We talked for 20 min. A very fan friendly lady.

[kenneth]

The signing at the Ren Cen? Damn I missed here. Mary introduced Lois Reeves to the crowd of abt 300 and that was after lunch. The crowd was huge. I Remeber our office was pretty empty and late cause the line was so long. She took her time with every fan. Miss Ray and Patti also treated the fans right at the their book signing. Miss Ray looked so fine but damn she was so tired after being there all day. They offered her ride back to the hotel that was inside the Ren Cen - she was beat. We talked for 20 min. A very fan friendly lady.

I think after Mary's first book that Miss Ray's is the best book ever about Motown. So interesting to hear her tell the tales from the early years. Especially loved finally finding out about the instrument the ondoline [[sp?) which was all over the early records and was kind of an early version of a synthesizer. A most informative book.

[Roberta75]

Unless you know something about Barbara that is worthy of the discussion, let the conversation go how it goes.

Speaking of Barbara Martin, what about Betty McGlown? I know she passed away a few years back, but what did she do in those years after the Primettes?


No need to get your feathers all rufled dear. I can say whatever I like actually long as it respectful.

Roberta

[reese]

In her first book, Mary wrote that the original TEARS OF SORROW was recorded after Betty McGlown left but before Barbara Martin joined. She mentioned that their producer Richard Morris thought their vocals might sound thin with just the three of them, so he brought along Betty Kendrick and Barbara Randolph to fill out the sound. Mary concluded by saying that she never saw either woman again, but that Barbara became a minister.

So I assume that the woman Mary called Barbara Randolph in her book was actually Barbara Terry. But future member Barbara Martin wasn't in the picture yet.

[antceleb12]

No need to get your feathers all rufled dear. I can say whatever I like actually long as it respectful.

Roberta

Roberta, no feathers of mine are being ruffled. I was merely reminding you that, just as you can say what you like, everyone else can as well - be it on topic or not.

[kenneth]

In her first book, Mary wrote that the original TEARS OF SORROW was recorded after Betty McGlown left but before Barbara Martin joined. She mentioned that their producer Richard Morris thought their vocals might sound thin with just the three of them, so he brought along Betty Kendrick and Barbara Randolph to fill out the sound. Mary concluded by saying that she never saw either woman again, but that Barbara became a minister.

So I assume that the woman Mary called Barbara Randolph in her book was actually Barbara Terry. But future member Barbara Martin wasn't in the picture yet.

Wow, Reese, great detective work! I think you may be right. In that television interview, Barbara Terry mentions Richard Morris as having something to do with her being on the record. The way she says it - somewhat hesitantly - makes it seem credible as she seems to be trying to recall something from that long ago. In fact, in the interview she also mentions that she had become an ordained minister.

Great deduction!

[Methuselah2]

I, too, think Reese really figured out this one. Add in that Barbara T-B never actually identified herself as Barbara Martin and Reese's explanation very logically nails it. If that were to turn out not to be the case, that would be a surprise. To paraphrase The Marvelettes: "The Truth's Outside The Thread"--and Reese brought it in.

[Lulu]

She got married and raised her kids. I met her back in 1987 when Mary came to Detroit for a book signing for "Dreamgirl, My Life As A Supreme".

You must have changed a lot since 1987. I believe it was 2007 that folks here sent Mary the photos of you so that she knew who this crazy person obsessed with talking trash about Diana and Suzanne was...

[marv2]

Dd u see Marilyn Turner host the Supremes - Mary Cindy and Sherrie when the 1975 album came out? I think they sang It All Been Said Before. The seemed so happy together and Mary did a great job leading the PR for the group. Their dance routine was real tight.

No I didn't see that show, but I did see Marilyn interview Mary after her best seller came out here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqGUMN1BHI

[kenneth]

You must have changed a lot since 1987. I believe it was 2007 that folks here sent Mary the photos of you so that she knew who this crazy person obsessed with talking trash about Diana and Suzanne was...

Lulu, I don't think we should be stirring all those accusations up again. Let's leave it behind us.

[marv2]

In her first book, Mary wrote that the original TEARS OF SORROW was recorded after Betty McGlown left but before Barbara Martin joined. She mentioned that their producer Richard Morris thought their vocals might sound thin with just the three of them, so he brought along Betty Kendrick and Barbara Randolph to fill out the sound. Mary concluded by saying that she never saw either woman again, but that Barbara became a minister.

So I assume that the woman Mary called Barbara Randolph in her book was actually Barbara Terry. But future member Barbara Martin wasn't in the picture yet.

Reese now all that makes sense! Thanks.

[Lulu]

Lulu, I don't think we should be stirring all those accusations up again. Let's leave it behind us.

Accusations? I provided you all with facts [[which you would have known had you read them on the links I provided). I will gladly do so again. If you want to keep the wool over your eyes, knock your socks off. I have a responsibility to the forum members to connect the dots so that we can finally say goodbye to marv/DetroitLives313/marysfan. We have tried many times and I don't quite have the #s I need to make the case for Ralph. I'm also focusing my efforts on YouTube and in the "Mary Wilson: Original Supreme" Yahoo! Group. Marvin Davis has repeatedly put words into Mary Wilson's mouth and continues to promote lies about Miss Diana Ross and Miss Suzanne De Passe. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the paper trail to back them up like I do with his online goings on for the last 7+ years. Mary Wilson has also addressed him by name to some of us and has made it clear that he is not a friend of hers and should probably stay as far away from her and Diana as possible...

[kenneth]

Accusations? I provided you all with facts which you would have known had you read them on the links I provided. I will gladly do so again. If you want to keep the wool over your eyes, knock your socks off. I have a responsibility to the forum members to connect the dots so that we can finally say goodbye to marv/DetroitLives313/marysfan.

No, I've seen them. Just trying to keep the peace here.

[Lulu]

No, I've seen them. Just trying to keep the peace here.

I appreciate that but honestly, I think we've all had enough. I have a responsibility to the forum members and the Motown artists to end this charade. Enough is enough.

[kenneth]

I appreciate that but honestly, I think we've all had enough. I have a responsibility to the forum members and the Motown artists to end this charade. Enough is enough.

I understand. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I thought all those shenanigans had ceased some time ago.

[Lulu]

I understand. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I thought all those shenanigans had ceased some time ago.

Oh no dear. We just heard from Mary not too long ago...and of course, the YouTube and Yahoo! comments keep rolling...

[kenneth]

Oh no dear. We just heard from Mary not too long ago...and of course, the YouTube and Yahoo! comments keep rolling...

Ahh...I'm very disappointed to hear that.

[Lulu]

Ahh...I'm very disappointed to hear that.

We all are. I just can't imagine having so much disdain for a 70 year old woman. It's sad...

[jobeterob]

Reese did a superb job here; Reese knows this stuff as good as anyone I've heard from.

So does this lady say she, too, was in the Supremes?

Lulu and Kenneth, you are both very fine people. I would not be surprised to hear shenanigans continue, nor that Mary Wilson finds them distressing.

Marv walks a fine line here and only brings up what is tolerable to the majority of Forum Members and Ralph.

[kenneth]

@jobeterob, the lady on the right, Barbara Terry-Pynum, talks about Richard Morris asking her to sing on the record "Tears of Sorrow" with the Primettes as well as [[what I think was) the B-side. She doesn't claim to be a Supreme beyond that session, which is why I thought she had a lot of credibility. It didn't make sense until Reese explained how Mary had related the story that Morris had wanted additional background vocalists due to Betty McGlown having already left the group at the time of the recording, but Mary referred to a Barbara as Barbara "Randolph" not Barbara Terry. All in all, I think that is the correct story because [[1) the lady spoke with credibility, [[2) she seemed a little fuzzy on the details this 50 years later, mentioning she recalled Richard Morris "had something to do with it," which also jives with Mary's story, [[3) she is now an ordained minister as apparently Mary also mentioned, and [[4) she would seem to be about the right age.

[jobeterob]

Impressive research! I like it!

[captainjames]

Impressive Reese
I was scratching my head for a minute !!!

[jobeterob]

Reese, are you just a very informed fan? Or were you there? You know more than both sets of people! Heck, you know more than Diane can remember!

[kenneth]

I guess there was an earlier thread on the same subject which I hadn't seen, but Reese and Skooldem both seemed to recall the details, and Reese seemed to remember Mary's [[slightly wrong) details from her book. Skooldem found the clip and posted it here.

[reese]

Reese, are you just a very informed fan? Or were you there? You know more than both sets of people! Heck, you know more than Diane can remember!

I've always loved to read so I've gleaned a lot of information over the years. But no, I was nowhere around when most of these events were taking place.

[captainjames]

Does anyone have a somewhat fairly recent picture of Barbara Martin like in the last 10-15 years ?

[RanRan79]

Oh this is sad news. I'm sorry to learn of Barbara's passing. Thank you Billy for the information.

[marv2]

That doesn't seem like Barbara Terry-Bynum is Barbara Martin, even though Barbara T-B says she sang on the Primettes record "Tears of Sorrow." I thought Barbara Martin had no association with show business after leaving the Supremes. It's also odd that this Barbara never refers to herself as "formerly known as" Barbara Martin, or any such thing. This lady seems like she'd talk more about it if she were really a Supreme. But how would she happen to have sung on "Tears of Sorrow?"

Does anyone know the history of this clip?

It's also interesting that Wiki says Barbara Martin didn't even sing on "Tears of Sorrow," that she was only on the Motown version of the original single.

Lu Pine version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Betty McGlown [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_McGlown)
Instrumentation by [[Unknown)

Motown version



Lead vocals by Diane Ross [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross)
Background vocals by Florence Ballard [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Ballard), Mary Wilson [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wilson_%28singer%29) and Barbara Martin [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Martin_%28singer%29)
Instrumentation by The Funk Brothers [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Funk_Brothers)


The Barbara in the video above seems to have credibility but it's really difficult to believe she sang on the Primettes record when you consider these things together.

That is Barbara Randolph [[her maiden name) of Detroit in this video and this video should now go into the Sub-Forum.

[captainjames]

Hello everyone. Barbara Diane Martin is dead. The exact date is not currently known, but I recently acquired ALL of her personal items from a storage sale! Officially she went under Diane Martin officially. She also worked with and for Motown up to the 80's when Motown was bought. As many of you know, she was the 4th original member of the SUPREMES. She left because she had gotten pregnant! The grueling traveling & touring would have been very tough for her at the time, even though her then husband was ok with her being with the group.
We [[The Motown Alumni Association) will be selling some of her BELONGINGS on: http://MotorcityBourique.com, and http://Offerup.com. We will also offer a letter of authenticity with each item sold, where it come from and how we acquired the possessions. For those of you that don't know who I am, I'm Billy Wilson, president of the Motown Alumni Association. We are the biggest advocacy group for the Motown stars in the world, and have been in business since 1995. You can contact me at:
Mybillybilly@yahoo.com

Hi Billy,
That is a shame and sad to hear. This is the first I have heard that she worked for Motown. Everything everyone has said in the past was she distanced herself from that life. Its good to know that she remained somewhat connected with Motown. Truly not here to create any rumors but she could be on more background vocals for other singers that we are unaware of. I would curious to know what items are being sold.

[luke]

Wikipedia reports her currently as being 75 years old.

[BigAl]

Very informative.
Barbara Terry Bynum mentions having been married to Mike Terry.
I wonder if that's Mike Terry of the Funk Brothers.

[marv2]

Very informative.
Barbara Terry Bynum mentions having been married to Mike Terry.
I wonder if that's Mike Terry of the Funk Brothers.

Yes she was married to Mike Terry musician with the Funk Brothers.

[billywilson]

Heads up!
Apparently we made a mistake, but it was an honest mistake.
Barbara IS NOT DEAD!
Let me explain:
A storage company sold a wealth of furniture, jewelry, and papers, and other items to a used furnature & clothes dealer, and that person gave most of the items to me. Within that aura of items was a tremendous reference of Motown, Motown executives, and pictures of select individuals. Amongst that group of items was a gold record belonging to DIANE MARTIN. The gold record was given to DIANE MARTIN. This DIANE MARTIN along with pictures, gold records, and other intricate information by appearances lead to the only Diane Martin we knew of. There is no other reference we can find refering to this individual. Mary Wilson called me directly and informed me that SHE IS NOT DEAD! And throughout the decades they have been in communication constantly. In this Diane's phone book she also has the phone numbers, birthdays, and addresses to virtually all of the California Motowners. So, obviously everything is on hold for us. Nothing will be sold or exchanged or rendered until we find out WHO IS THIS BARBARA DIANE MARTIN!
Bottom line is Barbara Diane Martin is NOT DEAD, and is alive and doing fine. My bad!!!!
I will keep this blog informed on the mystery of this individual. As I go through more of the dressers, items, and papers, I will clear up this MYSTERY. Also, because we have only seen Martin in only 2 photo's in over 50 years, we don't have a good reference to go by. So, when information that relates to individuals with a simular name, tight connection to Motown record company, and autographs and pictures of numerous Motown celebrities, mistakes do happen. We apologize to Barbara and her family if we caused any inconvenience. But, I will look deep into this drama. I'll be back!!!!
Billy Wilson

[billywilson]

I left the recanted message nelow, but I will also put it here:

Heads up!
Apparently we made a mistake, but it was an honest mistake.
Barbara IS NOT DEAD!
Let me explain:
A storage company sold a wealth of furniture, jewelry, and papers, and other items to a used furnature & clothes dealer, and that person gave most of the items to me. Within that aura of items was a tremendous reference of Motown, Motown executives, and pictures of select individuals. Amongst that group of items was a gold record belonging to DIANE MARTIN. The gold record was given to DIANE MARTIN. This DIANE MARTIN along with pictures, gold records, and other intricate information by appearances lead to the only Diane Martin we knew of. There is no other reference we can find refering to this individual. Mary Wilson called me directly and informed me that SHE IS NOT DEAD! And throughout the decades they have been in communication constantly. In this Diane's phone book she also has the phone numbers, birthdays, and addresses to virtually all of the California Motowners. So, obviously everything is on hold for us. Nothing will be sold or exchanged or rendered until we find out WHO IS THIS BARBARA DIANE MARTIN!
Bottom line is Barbara Diane Martin is NOT DEAD, and is alive and doing fine. My bad!!!!
I will keep this blog informed on the mystery of this individual. As I go through more of the dressers, items, and papers, I will clear up this MYSTERY. Also, because we have only seen Martin in only 2 photo's in over 50 years, we don't have a good reference to go by. So, when information that relates to individuals with a simular name, tight connection to Motown record company, and autographs and pictures of numerous Motown celebrities, mistakes do happen. We apologize to Barbara and her family if we caused any inconvenience. But, I will look deep into this drama. I'll be back!!!!
Billy Wilson

[billywilson]

By the way, I knew Barbara Randolph personally. Barbara Randolph WAS married to Mike Terry [[who I knew personally too), and she did briefly sang background on some Primette recordings. She was not considered an official member of the Primettes.

[copley]

Barbara Randolph! Don't you mean Barbara Martin?

[marv2]

I left the recanted message nelow, but I will also put it here:

Heads up!
Apparently we made a mistake, but it was an honest mistake.
Barbara IS NOT DEAD!
Let me explain:
A storage company sold a wealth of furniture, jewelry, and papers, and other items to a used furnature & clothes dealer, and that person gave most of the items to me. Within that aura of items was a tremendous reference of Motown, Motown executives, and pictures of select individuals. Amongst that group of items was a gold record belonging to DIANE MARTIN. The gold record was given to DIANE MARTIN. This DIANE MARTIN along with pictures, gold records, and other intricate information by appearances lead to the only Diane Martin we knew of. There is no other reference we can find refering to this individual. Mary Wilson called me directly and informed me that SHE IS NOT DEAD! And throughout the decades they have been in communication constantly. In this Diane's phone book she also has the phone numbers, birthdays, and addresses to virtually all of the California Motowners. So, obviously everything is on hold for us. Nothing will be sold or exchanged or rendered until we find out WHO IS THIS BARBARA DIANE MARTIN!
Bottom line is Barbara Diane Martin is NOT DEAD, and is alive and doing fine. My bad!!!!
I will keep this blog informed on the mystery of this individual. As I go through more of the dressers, items, and papers, I will clear up this MYSTERY. Also, because we have only seen Martin in only 2 photo's in over 50 years, we don't have a good reference to go by. So, when information that relates to individuals with a simular name, tight connection to Motown record company, and autographs and pictures of numerous Motown celebrities, mistakes do happen. We apologize to Barbara and her family if we caused any inconvenience. But, I will look deep into this drama. I'll be back!!!!
Billy Wilson


Hey Billy no problem. How are you doing? It has been a long time. Marv

[marv2]

Barbara Randolph! Don't you mean Barbara Martin?

No, I do mean Barbara Randolph, not to be confused with the actress/singer that once worked with the Platters. This is a different Barbara Randolph from Detroit who later married Mike Terry.

[marv2]

By the way, I knew Barbara Randolph personally. Barbara Randolph WAS married to Mike Terry [[who I knew personally too), and she did briefly sang background on some Primette recordings. She was not considered an official member of the Primettes.

Exactly Billy. Are you going to see the Jacksons this weekend in Detroit?

[marybrewster]

Barbara has arisen. AKA is NOT dead.

[TomatoTom123]

By the way, I knew Barbara Randolph personally. Barbara Randolph WAS married to Mike Terry [[who I knew personally too), and she did briefly sang background on some Primette recordings. She was not considered an official member of the Primettes.

Barbara Randolph?? Oh my I'm confused! Are there two Barbara Randolphs? Wait is Barbara Martin the same person as Barbara Randolph [[not the "I Got A Feeling" lady)? And who is Diane Martin??

[marv2]

Barbara Randolph?? Oh my I'm confused! Are there two Barbara Randolphs? Wait is Barbara Martin the same person as Barbara Randolph [[not the "I Got A Feeling" lady)? And who is Diane Martin??

Read my post just a little above for the answer

[TomatoTom123]

Read my post just a little above for the answer

So there were two Barbara Randolphs!

But I think copley was asking 'don't you mean Barbara Martin?' to Billy's post about Barbara Randolph. Wow I'm still confused.

[marv2]

Barbara Randolph! Don't you mean Barbara Martin?

Barbara Randolph and Barbara Martin are two different people.

[copley]

Yes I know Marv but Billy said that Barbara Randolph was married to Mike Terry! Are there two completely different Barbara Randolph's? The one I know is of course the Motown one who was married to Eddie Singleton.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yckkasg9

[marv2]

Yes I know Marv but Billy said that Barbara Randolph was married to Mike Terry! Are there two completely different Barbara Randolph's? The one I know is of course the Motown one who was married to Eddie Singleton.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yckkasg9

Yes Barbara Randolph of Detroit that recorded with the Primettes was married to Mike Terry of the Funk Brothers. Barbara Randolph, singer and actress [[small part in "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner) and also sang with the Platters and is now deceased are two different women.

[marv2]

This is the other Barbara Randolph:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-TVTIwFLg

[marv2]

Here she is leading the Platters in the 1960s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVjqAfkIt6c

[Coppelia-Birdsong]

She may not have gone on to fame and fortune, but perhaps she made the best decision for her own personal happiness: all of the girls to varying degrees and especially Florence, have had lives fraught with hardship, heartache and sadness, yet Barbera is still with the man and the family she chose over being a star, and I would say good for her. Sure she wonders about the "what ifs" but out of all the other girls, her life seems the most stable, especially in comparison to Mary losing her son and a dear friend, Diana getting anorexia and being taken in by a predatory older man, Cindy ending up in poverty and contemplating suicide, and lord certainly more then the cruelties Florence had to endure in her short life.

Felt sad when I read that Betty McGlown died of diabetes, I've only seen one photo of her but lord was she an attractive woman in her youth.

[copley]

Yes Barbara Randolph of Detroit that recorded with the Primettes was married to Mike Terry of the Funk Brothers. Barbara Randolph, singer and actress [[small part in "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner) and also sang with the Platters and is now deceased are two different women.

Thanks Marv. I never knew that there were two Barbara Randolph's both from Detroit.

[marv2]

Thanks Marv. I never knew that there were two Barbara Randolph's both from Detroit.

You are welcome Copley.