Lost discussion thread revisited or what????

[arr&bee]

Hellooooooo,is anybody else here,i know it's saturday and the sun is shining but darn is anyone else here,this is the biggest difererence from the old days nobody talks much these days..somebody say something.

[westgrandboulevard]

"..but remember,
if you should fall short of your desires,
remember life holds for you one guarantee,
you'll always have me..."

...never far away from SDF....and that may not be reassuring to you....;)

[144man]

I am much too busy to ever post on this thread.

[westgrandboulevard]

So your secretary just did it for you......per proxy, of course.....

[144man]

It was my altar ego [[I slipped my laptop into church).

[westgrandboulevard]

I bet it said "God Bless You" when you opened it up, and then asked you if you wanted to try the house wine.

[144man]

Strangely enough the communion wine had been supplied by arr&bee at only 900% above cost.

[westgrandboulevard]

The Church can afford it. The hooch is in the vestry.

[144man]

Arr&bee is not responsible for that batch of hooch. My good friend Dan Brown tells me it was brewed by a middle secret order of Benny Dick teen monks, and all will be revealed in his next book.

[westgrandboulevard]

Dan Brown & Arr&bee are in cahoots. They're both into thriller fiction.

[arr&bee]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...ok i had that one coming.

[Jerry Oz]

This is silliness. Nobody with an ounce of self respect would be caught dead posting in a thread like this one.

[arr&bee]

Of course not jerry...that's why we use a half ounce.

[Jerry Oz]

Oops! We should use metric measurements for our European friends. So nobody with 28.349 grams of self-respect would post here to which you say that you only have 14.1745 grams... I think...

[arr&bee]

Jerry,you're a real mathamatictacal.

[Jerry Oz]

Well I'll take that as a compliment. I was once a poet, but I didn't seem to know it. See?

[westgrandboulevard]

You were obviously not versed in such things.

[arr&bee]

I bet you were a regular-igger ailin pue.

[Jerry Oz]

There's no rhyme or reason to it. Well, no reason anyway...

[arr&bee]

Now that's poetry out of motion.

[westgrandboulevard]

Getting out of line...

[Jerry Oz]

Do you want me to save your place?

[soulster]

Hellooooooo,is anybody else here,i know it's saturday and the sun is shining but darn is anyone else here,this is the biggest difererence from the old days nobody talks much these days..somebody say something.

Nothing much to say. It's the same things all the time. I think Ralph should drop the "Motown" or "Detroit part of it and make it an R&B forum, period. Then, members would be more encouraged to discuss ALL R&B/soul music without having to think it must be Motown or Detroit-related.

[arr&bee]

Wow,real funny soulster,i've been checking out threads across sdf and this place is a ghostown it's not about me but not many conversations goin on.

[Jerry Oz]

That's spooky, Bruh.

[arr&bee]

Ok,jerry explain this one.

[Jerry Oz]

I'm at loss for words. Specifically the words that you want me to explain...

[arr&bee]

You didn't post that youtube peice?

[Jerry Oz]

??! I deleted it before posting it. I thought...

This place is more like a ghost town than I was thinking. I swear I haven't been drinking tonight but I might need a snoot full.

[arr&bee]

Um no it ran,you been hittin this wonderful elixur you sly dog.

[Jerry Oz]

Don't know about that. I can count my remaining brain cells on one hand so I would know if I burned a few more.

[arr&bee]

My brain is in a cell too,but i lost the key.

[Jerry Oz]

As long as you get your three hots and a cot, I wouldn't complain. My wife makes a habit of getting into my head without being invited, so I envy you.

[arr&bee]

You envy me??...i have a wife too,maybe we should have a pity party.

[Jerry Oz]

Maybe. I'll have to ask her first...

[arr&bee]

We can invite west,moe,144man..hey soulster you're invited too.

[Jerry Oz]

Ummm... I dunno. She said that the only one invited to my pity parties will be me. She said the refreshments will be plenty of punches and a knuckle sandwich.

So I may have to pass...

[arr&bee]

Actually those knuckle sandwiches aren't bad with lettuce.

[Jerry Oz]

She said there would also be black eyed peas. I think. She either said 'peas' or 'you sack of worthless crap', but I was running and wasn't listening at that point.

[arr&bee]

Jerry that guy that you just passed.....was me.

[moe]

I'm surprised you let him pass, Jerry

[arr&bee]

He was running pretty fast,our wives were very angry.

[moe]

And whose fault is that???

[Jerry Oz]

My wife's. She won't let me drive the speed limit so I let people pass.

[arr&bee]

Hey moei still got that chinchilla...but the chinnys are getting restless.

[Jerry Oz]

Those things are weaselly.

[144man]

A weasel is not weaselly confused with a chinchilla, and a stoat is stoatily different.

[Jerry Oz]

Anybody can make that assessment from a fur. I think it's up in the hair for most people when they give it a lot of thought, though.

[moe]

I thought about it and I don't want it........thank you!

[arr&bee]

Ok but that was the last one...poor little chinny.

[144man]

It's academic now anyway - somebody stole that stole!

[westgrandboulevard]

It was a steal....

[Jerry Oz]

Maybe, but still...

[arr&bee]

Poor little chinny.

[moe]

It got a good home by the hair of its chinny chin chin

[westgrandboulevard]

Or the skin of its teeth.

[arr&bee]

Well all the bargains are gone...and i'm still broke,oh well.

[Jerry Oz]

Don't worry, dude. They'll be passing out free turkeys in the ghetto in about a month. That's always a good deal.

[arr&bee]

Well actually those turkeys work for me..[the ones selling the turkeys]yep thanksgiving,they were giving and i was thankful..ahhhh the good ol days.

[Jerry Oz]

Yah. There's always some turkey passed out in my old neighborhood. Usually, it wasn't because of Thanksgiving because everyday was a holiday for them.

[arr&bee]

There're turkeys passed out in my hood too,there'er still layin in the alley.

[Jerry Oz]

I remember my old stomping grounds from the '60s and '70s. Junkies laying out in burnt out store fronts and syringes in the gutters. I'm not one who complained about urban renewal.

[arr&bee]

Burnt out store fronts???i'm talking about the ones in my lobby.

[Jerry Oz]

Hopefully the glass there isn't broken and there aren't a bunch of strung-out junkies lying around with the strong smell of crap, sweat, and urine everywhere. Oh, and pit bulls. For some reason, junkies like pit bulls.

[arr&bee]

Life in da hood.

[Jerry Oz]

I like to consider them 'the old days' because they sure weren't good.

[arr&bee]

Well now not so fast,i remember being a little tyke with my little[hooch]stand set up on the corner,i did quite well.

[Jerry Oz]

That was YOU?! My uncle Calvin talks about that all the time. He said that your hooch gave him the confidence to live his life's plan.

BTW: Uncle Calvin is broke, drunk, homeless, but the happiest man I know. So thanks, man!

[soulster]

Hellooooooo,is anybody else here,i know it's saturday and the sun is shining but darn is anyone else here,this is the biggest difererence from the old days nobody talks much these days..somebody say something.

Oh, we're all talking, just about different things. Most of we members have our pet issues that we like to discuss, from live shows, to funk, to the old days of Detroit, to The Supremes, to politics, and to...yeah...mastering. :)

[arr&bee]

What's up soulster,yep that's what i'm talkin about,talkin all over the forum..good to hear from ya.

[arr&bee]

that was you?! My uncle calvin talks about that all the time. He said that your hooch gave him the confidence to live his life's plan.

Btw: Uncle calvin is broke, drunk, homeless, but the happiest man i know. So thanks, man!ahh yes,uncle calvin,i often wondered where he was laying this week,don't mention it jerry my pleasure..another satisfied customer.

[Jerry Oz]

That hooch saved his life. I'm not saying he drinks too much, but when it got cold last winter, all he had to do was pee on the fire to make it bigger.

[arr&bee]

Actually all he had to do was rub his hands together,he would've lit up the whole block.

[Jerry Oz]

Rub his hands together? He couldn't do that after winning a bet with Harvey the Hatchet and expected ol' Harve to pay without an attitude. He could have farted into the fire, but that would have threatened the entire neighborhood.

[arr&bee]

Oh boy,uncle calvin could've run from harvey,he didn't know about the boost..[speeds up to 5,000mph]sorry uncle calvin.

[Jerry Oz]

Uncle Calvin won't run from anybody who owes him money. When asked why he let his hands be chopped off, he said 'hands don't pay my bills, fool. Money do!'

[arr&bee]

Uncle calvin was wise.

[Jerry Oz]

'Is wise'. We may not know where he is but from the constant guilt-inducing letters that he sends everybody, he's still alive and scheming. I mean 'ticking'.

[arr&bee]

Yes i remember getting something scribbled from him some time back,good ol uncle calvin.

[Jerry Oz]

Yeah. He figured out how to write by putting a marker between his teeth. He actually got pretty good at it and began forging documents before getting caught and sentenced to having his front teeth extracted. Now he's got no hands or teeth and has to 'panfootle' [[as he calls it).

[arr&bee]

I once knew a guy who had nothing left but his eyelids..[he lost everything in a divorce].

[Jerry Oz]

That's why you have to avoid divorce at all costs. I was in a locker room with my dude Benoit when I noticed that he was wearing lacy women's thong panties. I asked him how long he had been wearing freaky lingerie.

"Since my wife found them in my lunchbox" was his response. He was a smart dude.

[arr&bee]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[Ryon6]

You guys are so entertaining and creative - loving how you play off of each other! Hope you continue. I wish I could join in the conversation but can't think of anything to continue this game. This is a game, correct?

[arr&bee]

Nope it's not a game,you see we don't actually exist.

[Jerry Oz]

I need you to sign that, notarize it, and send it to the IRS.

[arr&bee]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...jerry you should be on tv.

[Jerry Oz]

The taxman took my TV. He said that he'll be back soon to get my compu

[arr&bee]

Jerry this is what cha do,sprinkle some of this wonderful elixur around your house and put up a statue of bullwinkle and no taxman in his right mind will come within five mile of your house.

[Jerry Oz]

Really?! I never have seen a Bullwinkle statue. I heard about a Rocky statue in downtown Philadelphia but after I drove there from Ohio all I saw was a statue of some guy wearing boxing gloves and shorts. What a ripoff.

[arr&bee]

Ok i'll send you one for only...10,000%above factory invoice[plus shipping and handling]these are very rare.

[Jerry Oz]

Here's what I'll do: I'll rip all of the money in half and send it to you. If I'm satisfied, then I'll send you the other half along with a roll of tape. It'll be shipped COD of course...

[arr&bee]

Cool,make sure it's clear tape...the other kind is hard to pass.

[Jerry Oz]

All I have is Duck Tape. Can't afford Scotch Magic Tape.
https://tw-projects.s3.amazonaws.com/twduckbrand/prod/images/products/00-03023-01-resized_resized.jpg

[arr&bee]

Tell ya what,when you can get it whole,send it to me..oh and that duck owes me cash.

[144man]

If that duck doesn't pay up, he's going to end up in a sticky situation like an orange sauce marinade.

[westgrandboulevard]

If so, you may find yourself being handed the bill.

[arr&bee]

Never lend money to a duck with webbed duct tape.

[Jerry Oz]

A duck walked into a bar and ordered a drink. The bartender, not seeing a purse or pockets on the duck wondered how he was going to pay for it. "Don't worry about remuneration," said the duck. "Just put it on my bill."

Hardy-har-har-har.

[144man]

A man walks into an empty bar with a duck and a biscuit tin. He places the duck on top of the tin, and the duck immediately starts dancing. The bar gradually fills up as news of this amazing sight spreads. The barman knows he is onto a good thing with the increased turnover and buys the duck for 500 dollars, expecting to quickly make his investment back.

At the end of the evening the duck was still dancing, so the barman asked the seller how to make it stop. He replied, "You just take the lid off the biscuit tin and blow out the candle."

[arr&bee]

A man at a bus stop asked a duck for the time,and the duck replied...how the quack should i know.

[westgrandboulevard]

That's just what my doctor said to me....

[Jerry Oz]

A man walks into a doctor's office with a duck perched on his head. The doctor looks him over and realizing that something is very wrong asks what is going on. "What, are you blind, Doc?" the duck replies. "I have a man on my ass!"

[westgrandboulevard]

How embarrassing. That man must have had egg on his face.

[Jerry Oz]

Well, it does appear that the yolk is on him, doesn't it?

[westgrandboulevard]

Eggsactly.

[144man]

Did the doctor find a cure for that mallardy?

[Jerry Oz]

I'm afraid he didn't. He said that it was a fowl situation.

[westgrandboulevard]

If there's no chance to duck out of it, no sense in having a grouse about it.

[Jerry Oz]

He said that. But he also said that he wouldn't read until the case was quacked.

[westgrandboulevard]

What wouldn't he read....?

[arr&bee]

This puts me in a fowl mood.

[Jerry Oz]

What wouldn't he read....?Autocorrect strikes again...:mad:

It should have read 'he wouldn't REST until the case was quacked'. Stinkin' tablet...

[Jerry Oz]

This puts me in a fowl mood.Don't worry, Bub. You'll be feeling ducky before you know it.

[arr&bee]

I gotta see my quack today.

[144man]

I'm ducking the issue.

[westgrandboulevard]

Always best to avoid a duck's issue.....

[144man]

That could be ugly, unless it turns into a swan.

[westgrandboulevard]

With a cygneture tune of "Waddle I do..."....?

[Jerry Oz]

You should record that and put it on the internet. It will be your greatest webbed feat.

[westgrandboulevard]

....and also allow me to walk on water...

[Jerry Oz]

If you can do that, people will swan over you.

[westgrandboulevard]

I hope to remain as serene and gracious as ever.

If that doesn't work, one vigorous bat of a wing should certainly deter them, if not actually break a limb.

[Jerry Oz]

Well, don't think that you're alone, friend. After all, birds of a feather tend to flock together.

[westgrandboulevard]

Yes. It's illegal over here to kill a swan [[property of HM), be it white or black... but better be on the safe side, and go around in numbers.

[arr&bee]

You know how smart swans are,didn't they do...[swan lake]??

[Jerry Oz]

I don't know. My school was so poor, they took us to see 'Goose Pond', a knockoff ballet put on by the residents of a local halfway house. Three of the dancers used it as an opportunity to escape and another one picked the pockets of some of the chaperones. It was well worth it though, because a few of the kids would later grow up and be assigned to the same facility after being paroled.

[westgrandboulevard]

Such finesse!

[Jerry Oz]

It's so nice when you look back and see to where the road led...

[westgrandboulevard]

Picture yourself twenty years from now, looking back down a road you are now about to take...and wishing with all your heart that it had said 'Strictly No Entry'...

[144man]

A man walks into an empty bar with a duck and a biscuit tin. He places the duck on top of the tin, and the duck immediately starts dancing. The bar gradually fills up as news of this amazing sight spreads. The barman knows he is onto a good thing with the increased turnover and buys the duck for 500 dollars, expecting to quickly make his investment back.

At the end of the evening the duck was still dancing, so the barman asked the seller how to make it stop. He replied, "You just take the lid off the biscuit tin and blow out the candle."

I've just had the RSPCA [Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals] round. Apparently they've just had a complaint about the above joke. Who's the snitch?

[westgrandboulevard]

It certainly wasn't me. My name is quite prevalent on this thread, and I have a reputation to live down to [[if not correct grammatical construction, to live up to...). Oh, yes.....

So.... who do we know who has connections, a story to tell, and works under a cloak of anonymity, always keeping one step ahead of the game ....:confused:

[Jerry Oz]

I've just had the RSPCA [Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals] round. Apparently they've just had a complaint about the above joke. Who's the snitch?Wait! 'RSPCA' doesn't stand for 'Really Special Precious Comics Association'? I was actually nominating your joke for 'Internet Forum Joke of the Year'...

No wonder they threatened to send a goon squad if I didn't answer all of their questions...

[144man]

Strange how we have the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, but just the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. Only in Britain, eh?

[westgrandboulevard]

The NSPCC is incorporated by Royal Charter, which is granted by the Sovereign...although I can't say why it isn't the Royal Society.....

[144man]

Because the royal family like dogs and horses better than smelly children?

[westgrandboulevard]

W-e-l-l, I can't say that I'd blame them if they did....

[Jerry Oz]

Well, there's another smelly royal on the way knocking both of you one further notch away from the throne. That certainly sucks.

[westgrandboulevard]

It's not a problem, more of a relief. Practically no-one outside of the Royal family would want the job.

[144man]

I wouldn't want to be Prime Minister either. although of course, if I were to be offered the job, I don't see how I could possibly refuse.

[westgrandboulevard]

Well, there's a good pension and a guarantee of a successful autobiography, for a start.

Not to mention a sister who would be extremely keen to be seen with you, in and around No. 10. "You there! Let me in. I'm family!"

[Jerry Oz]

If Thatcher was the 'Iron Lady', which metal would you want to be associated with you?

[westgrandboulevard]

For me, steel.....! :D

[Jerry Oz]

I'll try aluminum. I'm flexible enough and can usually take the heat. However I might come apart if I think you're trying to get me to bend too much or too often.

[arr&bee]

You guys are coming apart at the seams.

[Jerry Oz]

And that's why you're straight gold, amigo.

[westgrandboulevard]

I'd say Arr&bee was far more saloon bar, than gold bar.

[Jerry Oz]

I was trying to be nice...

[westgrandboulevard]

So was I ;)

[Jerry Oz]

I see that now... I forgot to apply context to the reply. Sorry, Bruh...

[westgrandboulevard]

Showing your true mettle......

[Jerry Oz]

I'm releasing an album full of songs about my courage. It's what I consider to be heavy mettle music...

[arr&bee]

Those within the industry say it's going..double aluminum.

[westgrandboulevard]

An essential element for success.

[splanky]

Hellooooooo,is anybody else here,i know it's saturday and the sun is shining but darn is anyone else here,this is the biggest difererence from the old days nobody talks much these days..somebody say something.

When I first saw this thread I thought it would be addressing the fact that serious reflection
and intelligent discussion of current events on the forum is rapidly vanishing from SDF and
the Clubhouse but I was mistaken. I don't pretend to be trying to tell anyone what they should talk about but for some time I've been wanting to say this:
There are about 5 or 6 threads here that I just don't get ...There is no discussion in them.
Just strings of one or two lines jokes. Maybe I've lost my sense of humour...

[144man]

When I first saw this thread I thought it would be addressing the fact that serious reflection
and intelligent discussion of current events on the forum is rapidly vanishing from SDF and
the Clubhouse but I was mistaken. I don't pretend to be trying to tell anyone what they should talk about but for some time I've been wanting to say this:
There are about 5 or 6 threads here that I just don't get ...There is no discussion in them.
Just strings of one or two lines jokes. Maybe I've lost my sense of humour...

We recently had a serious thread going on Scottish independence. You have had ample opportunity to start a thread on the US mid-term elections, for instance, but obviously have chosen not to do so. There are certain American issues I read about in the UK Press, which it surprises no one discusses on SDF, but I feel it would be presumptuous of me to start threads on internal US affairs. I also think most UK matters are of little interest to the majority of US members.

You are possibly right that 5 or 6 threads of one or two line jokes are a couple of threads too many, but yes, you probably have lost your sense of humour.

[splanky]

We recently had a serious thread going on Scottish independence. You have had ample opportunity to start a thread on the US mid-term elections, for instance, but obviously have chosen not to do so. There are certain American issues I read about in the UK Press, which it surprises no one discusses on SDF, but I feel it would be presumptuous of me to start threads on internal US affairs. I also think most UK matters are of little interest to the majority of US members.

You are possibly right that 5 or 6 threads of one or two line jokes are a couple of threads too many, but yes, you probably have lost your sense of humour.

In case you didn't notice, I posted on the thread about about the Scottish independence
issue. I don't usually start threads myself except to get a question answered because most
of things I care about are foreign to most of the forum these days. I acknowledge that. I've
peeked in on a few of those other threads and read through pages where I was waiting for
somebody to say something really funny ; didn't happen. There are dozens of so- called
American issues that I don't give a shit about so what goes on in a UK I've never seen is
a moot point...O well..Carry on with the jokes...

[Jerry Oz]

A horse walks into a bar. The bartender looks at him and says 'Hey pal. Why the long face?'

[westgrandboulevard]

I backed that same horse last week, at ten to one.

It came in at quarter past four.

[144man]

A horse walked into a bar and saw two dogs sitting at a table. He went over to them and asked them what the time was. "Quarter past four", came the reply. The horse thanked them and left the bar.

One dog turned to the other. "What do you think of that?", he said with surprise. "That horse could talk!".

[westgrandboulevard]

A man in a movie theatre notices what looks like a horse sitting next to him.
"Are you a horse?" asked the man, surprised.
"Yes", came the reply.
"What are you doing at the movies?"
The horse replied, "Well, I liked the book."

[144man]

No doubt he was sitting in the stalls.

[westgrandboulevard]

This little sequence gently but effectively illustrates that everyone has 'stuff' which can get us down and make us feel stressed and unhappy, but some of us here are seriously trying just that little bit harder to do something about it, all in the process of cheering ourselves up.:)

[Jerry Oz]

This little sequence gently affirms that I may indeed be nuttier than a fruitcake, but thank God I'm not alone!

[144man]

We all need a little bit of madness to keep us sane!

[Jerry Oz]

And thankfully, 'little bit' is a subjective measurement as some of our posts reveal...

[arr&bee]

Hey splanky,how ya been,don't blame these decent folks for all the nonsense here,you know that i'm currupting them but they keep coming back for more....if i ever get serious for longer than oh say five minutes,call the number at the bottom of the post and have me committed.

[westgrandboulevard]

You're not corrupting me, Arr&bee [[that's impossible :)), and none of this is nonsense - it's perfect sense to many....although I have indeed long assumed you are making your posts from a maximum security twilight home, somewhere.....haha

[Jerry Oz]

Perhaps we should start a 'what makes you feel funky' thread so we can have serious discussion about world events and other things. Although I submit to you if you read these threads in earnest, you'll see they do have plenty of serious discussion about a great many things.

[westgrandboulevard]

The threads, including this one, to which Splanky was referring [[and to which I'm a major contributor, but can also understand Splanky's point of view) are what I regard as 'workshop' threads.

I see them as an online substitute of the staff room, where people chatter to each other, and move with the spontaneous conversation, wherever it leads. I contribute to these threads in the hope I'm offering a suitable response, even if usually under pressure from shortage of time, and I receive much support in return. They are 'buddy' threads, where penfriends can gather, instead of being on a more private 'one-to-one' basis. The content often has more to do with what is being left unsaid, than what is actually up there on the screen. Just being able to contribute is very beneficial, and a great outlet for expression. And, of course, we are gently competing with each other, to best the last post, and that's healthy.

A 'what makes you feel funky' thread is a good idea, and could be started at any time, as can any other thread. The drawback seems to be that most listed members don't actively participate, and many may literally view SDF as a simple substitute to passively watching TV. I may not contribute much if anything to topics which address world events, but there is certainly a place for them. There's a place on SDF for any topic as long as it is acceptable to discuss it, and there are people who wish to do so.

That said.... the music, the memories and the history of Detroit should always be represented by the majority of threads. If they are not, that doesn't reflect too well on the silent majority, rather than those who are giving time and attention to say 'something' here...

[Jerry Oz]

I've no problem with his input at all. Just wondered why he'd concern himself with the nature of a thread when he admittedly doesn't create many of them himself and his participation is limited in others. I often contribute to more serious threads and find that they die out after a few days of topical relevance. Of course, many are leery of participating due to the frequent dust ups that occur when someone has a problem with another poster over a past thread. C'est la vie.

[westgrandboulevard]

It's always a reality that the few represent the many.

C'est la vie, as you say. And I've even heard French people say it....

[Jerry Oz]

It, as my one of my buddies would say: 'Whatever, Yo.'

[westgrandboulevard]

If you can't fight it, and it has to be, then it has to be.

[Jerry Oz]

That's what I said in post #173.

[arr&bee]

West you should run for prime minister,or prime ribs,or prime time,whatever the headman over there is called,because you articulate well my good fellow,i raise my tea cup to you...[of course you know that this tea will knock your socks off].

[westgrandboulevard]

Arr&bee, I could perhaps run for Rhyme Administer, and quote poetry [[I'll put in a good word for you) - or I might just be better off running for a bus.

[144man]

If wgb becomes prime minister, we should all run for cover.

[Jerry Oz]

If he ran for president, he'd have my vote. Better the devil that I know than these greedy bastards who keep driving us off the rails.

[arr&bee]

Yeah the crooks ,and they tell me i owe em taxes at...100%above factory invoice...the crooks.

[144man]

Why do I think that an honest politician would also be incompetent?

[Jerry Oz]

Consider that any coalition he could form would have to include a number of cooked fellows. How could he be honest while also furthering the goals of ne'er do wells? He would be incompetent for the simple reason that he couldn't do one good thing without signing on to do ten bad deeds. So, good intentions or not, he'd be incompetent at being honest or otherwise in general.

[westgrandboulevard]

Hmmmm.:confused:

So, what would you suggest as an alternative?

[Jerry Oz]

I meant 'crooked fellows' although 'cooked' sort of works, I guess...

And I have no alternative under the current model of national government. However it occurs to me that true representative government is impossible on the national level for a country with 300+ million citizens. I propose that our country split into five super states that all govern themselves in accordance to their citizens' wishes. Each of these would have representatives on the national level who would only legislate issues that affect the confederation.

[westgrandboulevard]

That sounds good to me.

We all need to have busy lives, so it's essential we can pass our thoughts, opinions and wishes to someone else further up the chain to progress, and then liaise at a later date - as long as we are prepared to do the same for someone else, who wishes to pass on the same to us.

[Jerry Oz]

Do unto others...

[westgrandboulevard]

Verily. As you sow, so you reap [[at least that's something I hope will happen to others who behave badly towards me...:))

[Jerry Oz]

I try not to care but it depends on how badly they behave. Flipping their middle fingers or calling me names are irritating but quickly forgotten. Trying to steal from me or causing harm to my family is not.

[westgrandboulevard]

I like harmony, and wouldn't really wish ill on anyone - but I'm aware that many will be thinking solely of themselves. That makes it rather unwise for me also to think of them.

[Jerry Oz]

They'd love it if you'd give them the pleasure of taking time and hating them.

[westgrandboulevard]

Then we'd all be on the down escalator.

No, I'd rather travel alone.

[Jerry Oz]

It seems like the world is much meaner than it used to be.

[westgrandboulevard]

We are becoming far more aware of the actions of others, who we may feel have been given much more opportunity to act in what we believe to be an offensive manner, than in previous times. Previous disciplines and restrictions have been relaxed or removed.

[Jerry Oz]

Perhaps. I think that every nut seeking attention realizes that he has to go big on shock and awe in order to be noticed by the instantaneous [[albeit short) news cycle.

[westgrandboulevard]

Absolutely. Everything has become over-hyped, and some of the precision to detail, standards and values has become blurred.

Example: if someone uses bad language, it is more acceptable now. It is true that no-one dies because someone else uses bad language and, in that respect, it doesn't matter so much. That's looking at the big picture.

The reality is that if two people sat together, one articulate, the other not so and using bad language, the articulate one will receive more attention and respect in most instances.

[Jerry Oz]

But with the foul language being accepted, it eventually becomes acceptable. There's language being used during television prime time that would have resulted in swats from my mother. Followed by a bar of soap to clean up my mouth for the next time I thought to talk like that again.

[arr&bee]

Great point fellas,but as we know all too well we live in a world gone mad,as the church folk might say..it's the devil's time now.

[Jerry Oz]

The devil resides in many churches. John referenced this in Revelation. The world is now his playground.

[arr&bee]

I think i saw him at the playground once,he was on the sliding board.

[westgrandboulevard]

Next day, he became Secretary of your Treasury....

[arr&bee]

NO WAY,I'M SECRETARY OF MY TRESURY AND I AUDIT MYSELF...[I don't trust me].

[westgrandboulevard]

I know that what you say is true, because I had already audit through the grapevine.

[arr&bee]

Watch those grapes...[at night they sneek out as raisins].

[westgrandboulevard]

They have to come out after dark. The strict diet has left them rather shrivelled.

[arr&bee]

I told em not to hang around that vine.

[westgrandboulevard]

Yes, they just hung there and withered on that vine.:[[

They became more lower-ins, than rais-ins......

[arr&bee]

Those poor grapes,they should be juiced.

[Jerry Oz]

Their just soured because of the state of currant affairs.

[arr&bee]

Some of that stuff is just...seedless.

[westgrandboulevard]

Met some the other day. They wanted to start a fight, but I had to run, as there was a bunch of them.

[Jerry Oz]

I fought a grape once. It was an epic battle that lasted 12 rounds. I beat him nearly to death but he didn't cry about it. He just let out a little wine.

[arr&bee]

Some of em are green with envy.

[Jerry Oz]

His corner was very upset with how the fight went. I looked over to them and they were all red.

[arr&bee]

Of course the smart ones went into wine.

[westgrandboulevard]

The dumb ones went into cakes.

[Jerry Oz]

They were making a ruckus over there. I asked if they were raising hell and someone said that it was that or they'd be raisin bran.

[arr&bee]

Some of those unlucky ones wind up in a jam.

[Jerry Oz]

They're scary. Before the fight, someone told me not to make that grape nuts.

[westgrandboulevard]

Could make you punch drunk...

[Jerry Oz]

But could it make me drink punch? What if I said that I thought it was punch? I need an excuse for coming home drunk on Saturday.

[arr&bee]

Poor grapes,some make bad choices wind up seedless.

[Jerry Oz]

Well, what should we expect in this economy? Some haven't had a raisin years.

[144man]

Some just feel crushed...and I think I have a bad case of deja vu.

[westgrandboulevard]

Nothing new. We've seen that all before...

[Jerry Oz]

Yeah, but it reminds me of something...

[westgrandboulevard]

I'm now of the age when I frequently feel reminded of things I actually never knew.

[Jerry Oz]

My wife frequently reminds me of things that I told her weeks or months past. The problem? Although I remember knowing them, I honestly can't remember telling her these things. 'How'd you know that?' says I. 'You told me. Don't remember?' she replies.

I'm not sure why that bugs me...

[westgrandboulevard]

Perhaps that is because, if you could remember, you might wish to be selective with the memory.

It's an eerie feeling when someone seems to remember something, of which we have absolutely no recall. Like getting on a table and performing a loud cabaret at a party, after too many drinks.

I think the reverse is worse. "Now, I told you all that yesterday!", but you have no recall, and would swear they simply think they told you...but actually did not. Some of the time, you are bound to be correct in that belief.

[Jerry Oz]

That's true. I think in some cases, I hold onto things long enough to tell her and put them away in a cabinet of my mind after making sure she knows. Sort of a 'that's taken care of' type of situation.

[westgrandboulevard]

Passing on information has a way of easing clutter in the mind.....

[Jerry Oz]

She wants the lowdown on everything that I discuss with others when she's not with me. Most of the conversations are pretty much small talk, so I only save them long enough to pass along. Sort of a mental audio version of Tivo. Of course you have to factor my notoriously poor hearing into the relay of information...

[westgrandboulevard]

In other words, you could be considered an unreliable witness!

[Jerry Oz]

No need to torture me. I'll spill my guts, even if what comes out ain't exactly accurate. If checked for veracity, I ca...n always rely on the 'are you sure I said that?! I don't remember it that way' card...

[westgrandboulevard]

Or "I can't be absolutely sure. I might have got it wrong. And my doctor has just recommended I take a memory test"

[Jerry Oz]

And when all else fails, I can fall back on the old standby: 'Yes, dear. Of course you're right again.'

It's going to end up there, regardless...

[westgrandboulevard]

Not here, not if I can help it. At least, not EVERY time! ;)

[Jerry Oz]

When I finally get my hearing aids, I look forward to turning them off when the conversation turns against me...

[arr&bee]

Look have you been listening?you don't need all that[memory stuff]one sip ,just one small sip and you'll forget that you were born...that's it feel the power of your mind imploding.

[Jerry Oz]

[[Jerry removes his reading glasses to avoid reading the previous post...​)

[westgrandboulevard]

Now both of you are in complete denial.....

[Jerry Oz]

I can't agree with that...

[westgrandboulevard]

I'll take that as a flat acceptance.

[Jerry Oz]

I reject any insinuation that I'm in denial about anything. I also don't think you flatly accept my admission as denial...

[144man]

You'll both have forgotten about it by tomorrow anyway.

[Jerry Oz]

Forgotten what, again?

[144man]

Exactly...

[westgrandboulevard]

Which is close enough....

[144man]

I bet you can't even remember what happened on that night out with Bill Cosby and those girls 30 years ago.

[Jerry Oz]

I told him not to eat the Jell-O pudding...

[westgrandboulevard]

A lot of spring chickens have certainly come home to roost in Bill Cosby's backyard.