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stephanie
08-11-2014, 12:23 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13zffi_supremes-four-tops-gotta-have-love-in-your-heart_music

Stephanie

milven
08-11-2014, 12:31 AM
Nice find. Never saw it. Enjoyed it.

stephanie
08-11-2014, 12:34 AM
I never saw it either I was shocked! I wonder if this was a rehearsal or a show overseas I have seen a pic of it in a book and thats all.

blackguy69
08-11-2014, 01:33 AM
its Top of the Pops and if im correct, its December 1971.

Methuselah2
08-11-2014, 02:42 AM
Ooo-wee, Stephanie! What a terrific find! Thank you.

theboyfromxtown
08-11-2014, 05:46 AM
Brilliant find Stephanie.

westgrandboulevard
08-11-2014, 06:47 AM
Nice post, Stephanie!

I feel sure I've seen that clip from BBC 'Top of the Pops' on various UK TV compilation programmes here, over the years - but, as it is in black and white, maybe not, and it is simply a reminder of the showing on TV. There are some still photos in colour, which fans of The Tops & The Supremes can match to this clip. It's good to know that some of our American friends have not seen this clip before ;)

I think I would agree with blackguy69 that this clip was filmed in the BBC studios in December 1971. I attended a concert at our Royal Albert Hall in London, on November 30 1971, held to raise funds for a children's charity. [[the tickets were given to me as a gift by an aunt and uncle - how lucky was that....)

HRH Princess Margaret and her then husband, Lord Snowdon were in attendance, and the Four Tops were similarly received by the audience as royalty, and also as old friends. If anyone here has never visited the Albert Hall, I imagine it is not as large as many American auditoriums [[seats 5000 +) but has a fantastic atmosphere and, for its age and history, pretty good acoustics. Most of our BBC Promenade concerts continue to be held there [[anyone interested, check out the Pet Shop Boys'' concert last month!)

Princess Margaret, being 'only' the Royal Number 2 seed at the time, didn't always need [[or want, when it suited her...) to strictly observe the protocol required of her elder sister and, with Lord Snowdon, was clearly enjoying herself. The audience were on their feet for much of the time. The Four Tops were, of course, Tops.

Can you then imagine the response from the audience later in the show when, without announcement or mention in advertisement of the concert, the stage lights were dimmed, spotlights danced to the side of the auditorium and three ladies in shimmering white gowns [[I think Jean may be wearing hers in the clip shown here) sashayed onto the stage to join the Tops. Even Princess Margaret raised her arms and momentarily half raised herself with applause. I imagine there would have been handshaking and conversation backstage after the show. If so, I wonder if Princess Margaret enquired "Is that still a wig you're wearing, Mary?" ...:)

soulballad
08-11-2014, 08:29 AM
This is a fantastic find! Thanks for posting it

marv2
08-11-2014, 08:41 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13zffi_supremes-four-tops-gotta-have-love-in-your-heart_music

Stephanie


Stephanie! I do not believe it, but I have to because I can see it with my own eyes! You made the find of the year! I knew this clip had to be out there somewhere because too many still picture variations have circulated over the years. Thank you!

marv2
08-11-2014, 08:46 AM
its Top of the Pops and if im correct, its December 1971.

That's right because the Supremes began their tour of the UK in November of '71.

westgrandboulevard
08-11-2014, 09:01 AM
I've also just remembered that Jean acted as a judge on 'Miss World', held here in UK, which I believe was at this time.

midnight johnny
08-11-2014, 09:10 AM
Terrific find, Stephanie!!! Thanks for sharing this gem! John

marv2
08-11-2014, 09:51 AM
The Magnificent Seven!

marybrewster
08-11-2014, 10:14 AM
Oooooh honey! Mary Wilson was whippin' that hair back and forth DECADES before Willow Smith!

What a great clip!

jobucats
08-11-2014, 10:45 AM
Stephanie,
I don't normally post often, but this was INDEED quite a find. There were so many feelings as I viewed this: amazement, nostalgic, sad, happy, and I can go on and on. Thank you so much.

carole cucumber
08-11-2014, 10:46 AM
Nice post, Stephanie!I think I would agree with blackguy69 that this clip was filmed in the BBC studios in December 1971. I attended a concert at our Royal Albert Hall in London, on November 30 1971, held to raise funds for a children's charity...... HRH Princess Margaret and her then husband, Lord Snowdon were in attendance, and the Four Tops were similarly received by the audience as royalty, and also as old friends........... The audience were on their feet for much of the time. The Four Tops were, of course, Tops.Can you then imagine the response from the audience later in the show when, without announcement or mention in advertisement of the concert, the stage lights were dimmed, spotlights danced to the side of the auditorium and three ladies in shimmering white gowns [[I think Jean may be wearing hers in the clip shown here) sashayed onto the stage to join the Tops........:)

Could the gowns have been the 'bugle beads ' gowns Cindy is wearing here ?

http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/reliving-the-glamour-of-the-supremes/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 [[http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/reliving-the-glamour-of-the-supremes/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0)

The reason I ask is because in the U.S. edition of David Morse's book Motown [[pg 144) , there is a photo of the Supremes [[Jean, Mary, and Cindy)wearing those gowns while performing live with the Four Tops.

westgrandboulevard
08-11-2014, 11:08 AM
Carole....from this photo, I would say 'yes'....Mary has changed after appearing on stage, but Cindy has not. Cindy's gown is more as I remember them, even more than the one worn by Jean in the clip which Stephanie has posted.

I don't think I have a copy of David Morse's book. If I do, I have no idea where to find it! If you have one, would you be able to let us see that photo, please? That would be interesting.

marybrewster
08-11-2014, 12:00 PM
Matched with the boots, Jean's outfit has more of a "country" feel. Looks to me almost like a blouse and skirt set.

sup_fan
08-11-2014, 12:47 PM
great clip and thanks for sharing!



Mary better be careful swinging her wig around like that - might fly off :) hehehe

blackguy69
08-11-2014, 01:26 PM
This is truly a rare clip now I would love to see when they did Bad Weather on TOTP

stephanie
08-11-2014, 08:03 PM
Man I am as happy as all of you! I never thought I would see a clip of the Supremes and the Four Tops live! I happen to be one of the Motown fans who loves the albums they did. Now if we could find one of River Deep Mountain High!!!! Its great to hear them live and Miss Wilson whipping her hair back and forth! Mary Brewster I was thinking the same thing. It is nostalgic to see this clip because I KNOW it reminds us fans of buying that album and wishing that they would have more hits other than River Deep. Gosh if I ever find anything else like this I will come running to Soulful Detroit and put it here we as a group appreciate rare finds like this. Hey Marv I wish I could find a live clip of Mary saying "I gotta be insane to keep up with your personality change....LOL Westgrand I didnt know Jean was a judge on Miss World! The things you learn.

marv2
08-11-2014, 08:15 PM
Man I am as happy as all of you! I never thought I would see a clip of the Supremes and the Four Tops live! I happen to be one of the Motown fans who loves the albums they did. Now if we could find one of River Deep Mountain High!!!! Its great to hear them live and Miss Wilson whipping her hair back and forth! Mary Brewster I was thinking the same thing. It is nostalgic to see this clip because I KNOW it reminds us fans of buying that album and wishing that they would have more hits other than River Deep. Gosh if I ever find anything else like this I will come running to Soulful Detroit and put it here we as a group appreciate rare finds like this. Hey Marv I wish I could find a live clip of Mary saying "I gotta be insane to keep up with your personality change....LOL Westgrand I didnt know Jean was a judge on Miss World! The things you learn.

Stephanie, I'm telling you. I'd give pristine copies of "TCB" and "GIT" for a copy of the Tops and Supremes singing River Deep Mountain High along with this clip here in color........

marv2
08-11-2014, 08:18 PM
I've never seen Jean Terrell looking happier on stage. I love the way Duke nudges her to get her attention. LOL!

stephanie
08-11-2014, 08:41 PM
Motown missed the mark with this pairing. When I heard River Deep on the radio the ONE thing that made it a hit was not only the excellent production it was the gel and the glue of the background with Jean and Levi. If you listen closely at the end you can hear Mary and Cindy ..river deep moutain high!!!!!!! Also you can hear the Tops and everyone. Those albums had lead singers but it had a group sound! Even Im Gonna Make you Love me had a group sound to it. You could hear everyone and its irresistable.

Ahh the good old days. Mary loved the call and chant. Even with this pairing the songs on the albums like Melodie you could hear Cindy and her soprano. One of the reasons I liked the Four Tops when they left Motown was ALL of the guys [[for example Aint No Woman) you got to hear how well they could really sing. You can tell that all of the Tops and Supremes were having a good time.

stephanie
08-11-2014, 08:42 PM
Oh when I mentioned Im Gonna make you Love me I mean the Diana Ross and the Supremes and the Temptations. Also Why Must We Fall in Love with that grouping had a group sound. The 70s Supremes with Jean and the Four Tops showcased everyone!

marv2
08-11-2014, 08:46 PM
Motown missed the mark with this pairing. When I heard River Deep on the radio the ONE thing that made it a hit was not only the excellent production it was the gel and the glue of the background with Jean and Levi. If you listen closely at the end you can hear Mary and Cindy ..river deep moutain high!!!!!!! Also you can hear the Tops and everyone. Those albums had lead singers but it had a group sound! Even Im Gonna Make you Love me had a group sound to it. You could hear everyone and its irresistable.

Ahh the good old days. Mary loved the call and chant. Even with this pairing the songs on the albums like Melodie you could hear Cindy and her soprano. One of the reasons I liked the Four Tops when they left Motown was ALL of the guys [[for example Aint No Woman) you got to hear how well they could really sing. You can tell that all of the Tops and Supremes were having a good time.

"Melodie" is one of my favorite Motown Records period! I remember the album with "River Deep Mountain High" being one of the ones around the house at Christmas that year. They sure did miss the boat , you had the ultimate group pairing with these two~!

marv2
08-11-2014, 08:49 PM
A masterpiece in my opinion! Oh good ole days.........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U12lkpSCYhw

stephanie
08-11-2014, 09:04 PM
Marv have you noticed this CD has a great sound to it! I mean I had not heard a CD sound this good other than the Fifth Dimension Greatest Hits. Its pristeen. I think I will listen to this tonight. A friend of mine from Chicago stayed with me for a week and he LOVED this CD and kept asking me to play it over and over.

marv2
08-11-2014, 09:20 PM
Marv have you noticed this CD has a great sound to it! I mean I had not heard a CD sound this good other than the Fifth Dimension Greatest Hits. Its pristeen. I think I will listen to this tonight. A friend of mine from Chicago stayed with me for a week and he LOVED this CD and kept asking me to play it over and over.

It has an EXCELLENT sound quality to it and I applaud the folks that put this one together. How did you like their remix of "River Deep, Mountain High" on it?

marv2
08-11-2014, 09:22 PM
Here it is!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhpqA28lxKc

marv2
08-11-2014, 09:23 PM
Listening to all this now is giving a whole new appreciation for Motown and what they were able to produce.....whew!!!!! LOL!

marv2
08-11-2014, 09:31 PM
Hey Steph, it looks like we are not the only ones to appreciate the great music of the Supremes & Four Tops combination. Check these college kids out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTxXKfJ040

stephanie
08-11-2014, 10:52 PM
Holy Motown Batman! This made my day thanks Marv. Man they did it justice too no weird interpretation.

stephanie
08-11-2014, 11:10 PM
Marv I had to post it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_oKJJhfTI

marv2
08-11-2014, 11:13 PM
Holy Motown Batman! This made my day thanks Marv. Man they did it justice too no weird interpretation.

They were actually great! I felt good knowing that the music I've grew up loving is being appreciated by kids that weren't even born at the time it was popular.

marv2
08-11-2014, 11:16 PM
Marv I had to post it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_oKJJhfTI

Levi was simply masterful [[just listen to how he opens this song!) and Jean.......what can you say about her? They all were awesome. Listen to Mary, Cindy, Obie, Duke and Lawrence harmonize like the experts they were at it! They all deserve a lot more credit than they were given back in the day for producing such heavenly sounds.........

stephanie
08-11-2014, 11:16 PM
Oh Marv forgot to answer your question about the remix. Its awesome and as always the voices come through loud and clear. I know Spector did this with Tina Turner but the Supremes and the Four Tops is the definitive version and the one people are the most familiar with.

marv2
08-11-2014, 11:18 PM
Even when they sang a "rowdy" song like Shorty Long's "Function at the Junction" they were in harmony! LOL!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwDa2HG87ng

marv2
08-11-2014, 11:21 PM
One more gem......"IF" I love how they let Mary Wilson take them home towards the ending.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Q2Cd10Z8c

REDHOT
08-12-2014, 05:28 AM
I saw this about 3 days ago,on another site,i too never thought i'd see a live video,of The Supremes and The Four Tops,singing together live,i'm happy Stephanie was able to post this,we Supreme fans love it.

supremester
08-12-2014, 02:54 PM
THIS is an amazing find, Miss Stephanie - thank you - keep searching, Girl!!!!

thommg
08-13-2014, 11:14 AM
I used You Gotta Have Love In Your Heart on a playlist for a road trip this past summer. [[I only used 1 song per artist but I also used the Supremes doing It's In His Kiss [[The Shoop Shoop Song).) My friend, who did the driving bopped along with the Magnificent 7 and said afterwards, "I've never heard that song before. It's a great song!" I love introducing people to the music I grew up with. Most of the Motown music still sound fresh and exciting.

On another note, one of my favorite Magnificent 7 recordings is Don't Let Me Lose This Dream from Dynamite. I know that was a "throw away" album but I loved it anyway.

stephanie
08-13-2014, 07:59 PM
thommg I liked that one too I love the way the girls sing the word Dream!

marv2
08-13-2014, 09:09 PM
I've been saying for years that there has to be tons of video footage of Motown Artists from foreign television out there........somewhere. I also believe there is still a lot of footage from local television appearances they made around the country. I just hope more of it surfaces soon.

thanxal
08-13-2014, 11:10 PM
Can you post the original to You Tube so a broader audience can view this? What a wonderful performance they gave. Truly wonderful.

westgrandboulevard
08-14-2014, 03:30 AM
Was just thinking if an alternative version of "You Gotta Have Love In Your Heart" was ever released.....as Levi opens the song on the clip here but, on the usual recording, it's Jean....

George Solomon
08-14-2014, 08:32 AM
This really is a great find. Thank you, Stephanie. When we did the remix a few years ago we were hoping to find some additional vocals by Levi but what you hear is everything that is there. Jean is great on this track [[as she always was). This truly was a lost hit. Billboard reviewed it as a top 20 pick. When I worked with the 4 Tops on the Motown Revue, I told Levi how much I loved this song. He raised his hand and said, "Don't even talk to me about 'You Gotta Have Love In Your Heart'." Levi was the friendliest man in the world but something obviously bothered him about this song. I assumed that he was disappointed that it wasn't bigger but I wish I had pushed him a little more on the subject. I'll always wonder!

Methuselah2
08-14-2014, 09:42 AM
Perhaps the song was thought to be just a little too similar in feel, concept, and certainly its title to Jackie DeShannnon's PUT A LITTLE LOVE IN YOUR HEART just a couple of years earlier. The spiritual bent to YOU GOTTA may have also worked against it.

marv2
08-14-2014, 10:06 AM
Perhaps the song was thought to be just a little too similar in feel, concept, and certainly its title to Jackie DeShannnon's PUT A LITTLE LOVE IN YOUR HEART just a couple of years earlier. The spiritual bent to YOU GOTTA may have also worked against it.

"Gospel Rock" was very popular on Top 40 radio in the early 70's, so I don't believe that was it. Looking at the clip, I tend to believe that the producers had Jean's voice in mind and only her voice as lead when they cut the track. Levi seems to have fit himself into it.
Even the key sounds like it is for Jean.

sup_fan
08-14-2014, 01:52 PM
George - this could be completely just rumor. but somewhere, someone said that You Gotta Have Love was originally intended as a Sup song. but then they added the Tops. any insight?

i like the song a lot, especially the extended mix you guys did. but to me the track just doesn't have the excitement of River or even Melody. it's a bit corny, IMO. sort of falls into the sing-song category like Everybody's Got the Right. maybe just a bit too "bouncy", as i've described some other Sup songs like In and Out and Love Is Here that aren't my favs. of course this is just my opinion on it. i LOVE jean's extended vocals and think they definitely should have included those to spice it up a bit more.

supremester
08-14-2014, 02:19 PM
The 45 was listed as an add on our local top 50 and ran down to buy it before I heard it. I loved River Deep and assumed it would be a great pop record again. I was stunned that they put this out as a single - and stunned it got added locally [[although I never heard it.) the chorus sounded like a laxative commercial jingle to me - and still does. I can still picture shots of seniors smiling and frolicking in the hazy summer sun. The gospel part works, but the chorus, to me, is a hit killer if ever there was one. also, I think the failure of the pairing of the two groups is that, to me, Levi & Jean's voices do not work well together at all. I like their vocals separately on this, but, not together. I've always felt the reason Mag 7 was such a stiff is because of that. Not even a hit single and two fan bases could move that into the top 100. People digging the 45 and wanting the long version would have naturally snapped up the album - clearly promoted on every 45.

bradsupremes
08-14-2014, 03:19 PM
I always thought "Without The One You Love" was the standout on the Magnificent Seven album, but I doubt Motown would have released it here in the US as a single since it was already a Four Tops single years before. "Knock On My Door" was another great track with potential.

I never cared for "You Gotta Have Love In Your Heart." It never grabbed me as anything that could be a hit. It's rather a hokey sounding song. The better choice for a single should have been "I'm Glad About It" or "Where Would I Be Without You Baby." Those are two beautiful songs which should have been hits.

honest man
08-14-2014, 04:19 PM
I always thought "Without The One You Love" was the standout on the Magnificent Seven album, but I doubt Motown would have released it here in the US as a single since it was already a Four Tops single years before. "Knock On My Door" was another great track with potential.

I never cared for "You Gotta Have Love In Your Heart." It never grabbed me as anything that could be a hit. It's rather a hokey sounding song. The better choice for a single should have been "I'm Glad About It" or "Where Would I Be Without You Baby." Those are two beautiful songs which should have been hits.Call Me was also a good call,I'll Try not to cry was another fave though i feel it was missing some Depth to it,BUT the biggest mistake by Motown was not issueing Together we can make such sweet music from previous album one of my all time songs, cheers.

sup_fan
08-14-2014, 04:43 PM
what tracks were original to the Mag 7? obviously You Gotta Have Love. melody? i'm glad about it?

westgrandboulevard
08-12-2015, 05:13 AM
For you, Bluebrock...this is the thread I just mentioned, in your latest...

Always good to see it ;)

Bluebrock
08-12-2015, 07:29 AM
For you, Bluebrock...this is the thread I just mentioned, in your latest...

Always good to see it ;)
Respect to you!!!

Daan76
09-23-2017, 07:52 AM
I've never seen Jean Terrell looking happier on stage. I love the way Duke nudges her to get her attention. LOL!

Obie also looks like he is having so much fun he actually forgets to raise the mic high enough, as he did more often throughout the years [[at least, that is always my impression looking at live footage of the group).

Bluebrock
09-23-2017, 08:54 AM
Obie also looks like he is having so much fun he actually forgets to raise the mic high enough, as he did more often throughout the years [[at least, that is always my impression looking at live footage of the group).
Not one of my favourite songs, but i always enjoy watching this clip. I love the Supremes and the Four Tops as individual acts, but the material they were given on the three albums was generally of a sub standard quality. I was listening to the complete studio recordings again recently and nothing stood out and grabbed me - pretty much the way it was 40 something years ago, but as i said previously it is always good to see the two groups looking and sounding so happy and relaxed.

daviddh
09-23-2017, 11:37 AM
Stephanie, great find and thanks for sharing.i did think Jean and Levi were great together. Jean could really belt out and keep up with Levi.
I was never a big fan of these albums but I did think Return of was the best of three. out of 40 tracks I think I could put together one good album.just my opinion.i did like some of the out takes from the deluxe edition. Chain Reaction was nice

copley
09-23-2017, 01:59 PM
Loved most of the songs they recorded but most of all I loved how great Jean & Levi's voices blended together. :)

kenneth
09-23-2017, 02:21 PM
I couldn't find an example from Ebay but just now, but wasn't a photo from the live session of 'You Gotta Have Love in Your Heart' used on the cover of the sheet music for this song? It looks very familiar, so I think I've seen it before.