"Nightflight" Tue July 29, 9P-12M ET: TCMS...1969 ENDS...1970 BEGINS!

[midnight johnny]

Howdy, Nightfliers!! Tonight we leave good old 1969 and enter a brand new year AND a new decade for The Complete Motown Singles collection. So many changes for Motown during this year. Personally, the 2 most significant things that happened for me Motown-wise were the passing of our dear Tammi Terrell...and the gain of the miraculous Jean Terrell joining the Supremes upon Diana Ross finally taking up her own solo career. But the Motown hits just kept on coming [[to paraphrase the late, great Bill Drake)! And you'll hear them all...A sides and B sides, promos and alternate mixes...and the occasional extended version. All that and more...tonight...on "Nightflight"...on WOMR 92.1 FM Provincetown and WFMR 91.3 FM Orleans and streaming live worldwide in digital stereo at www.womr.org [[http://www.womr.org) Thanks! John PS....and a BIG PS it is....thanks to SDF's own ROSSHOLLOWAY/Bobby Gardner for sharing the music that you'll hear tonight....thanks so much, Bobby!

[RossHolloway]

I can't wait MJ!

[Glenpwood]

Greetings John from the sticky and sultry south!

Looking forward as always to joining you and the gang tonight for the sweet sounds of Motown. See you here at nine!

[midnight johnny]

I can't wait MJ! Bobby....me either...glad you'll be here!!! And THANK You for making it possible!!

[midnight johnny]

Greetings John from the sticky and sultry south!

Looking forward as always to joining you and the gang tonight for the sweet sounds of Motown. See you here at nine! Ahhhh, Glen....always a pleasure to know you're here...sticky AND sultry. See you later on the radio....

[carole cucumber]

Ahhhh, Glen....always a pleasure to know you're here...sticky AND sultry. ....

Oh I get it .....

sticky "I Should Be Proud" "War", Stop the War Now" ''Bill When Are You Coming Back"

sultry..."Up the Ladder To the Roof" "Dark Side of the World" "After All"
"But I Love You More"

[midnight johnny]

Oh I get it .....

sticky "I Should Be Proud" "War", Stop the War Now" ''Bill When Are You Coming Back"

sultry..."Up the Ladder To the Roof" "Dark Side of the World" "After All"
"But I Love You More" Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....well....OKAY!

[franjoy56]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....well....OKAY!
Sounds like a 70s party, wow I will join in soon as I spin the supremes at the copa 7.29.65 show see u guys later.

[midnight johnny]

Sounds like a 70s party, wow I will join in soon as I spin the supremes at the copa 7.29.65 show see u guys later.

It will be a pleasure to have you with us, Franjoy!!

[midnight johnny]

...in the studio....early!!! Howdeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[144man]

Are we finishing 1969? Can't you hear the music play!

[thanxal]

happily listening to the groovy 70s mood.

[Methuselah2]

Now just a minute:

Ethel Merman did not have bosoms; she had 2 breasts that comprised her bosom.

Gotta keep the facts . . . and the tits . . . straight.

[144man]

Both sides of Rustix produced by R Dean Taylor.

[Methuselah2]

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[midnight johnny]

Now just a minute:

Ethel Merman did not have bosoms; she had 2 breasts that comprised her bosom.

Gotta keep the facts . . . and the tits . . . straight.

Bruce...thank you for keeping me abreast of the facts!

[Methuselah2]

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[Glenpwood]

Evening all.... Sorry I am tardy to the listening party at the Psychedelic Shack!

[carole cucumber]

..that's where it's at.

[144man]

..that's where it's at.

I wonder if they've oiled that creaking door yet:)

[carole cucumber]

I wonder if they've oiled that creaking door yet:)

Yes, Michael borrowed Nipsey's oil can way back in 1978.

[Methuselah2]

Bruce...thank you for keeping me abreast of the facts!

My pleasure, John. I am the voice . . . and the bosom . . . of San FrancIsco.

[Glenpwood]

Yeah.... We've crossed to 1970! While I enjoy 69'ing as much as the average listener, we were at it so long I almost got lockjaw...... From dropping my mouth open in awe at all the great singles and extended versions of the year;)

[kenneth]

I'm joining to listen in late and came in through the WOMR web site. But does anyone have the link to the other URL where you could just access this as well as other stations quite easily? I lost all my book marks recently but I liked that URL.

[franjoy56]

It will be a pleasure to have you with us, Franjoy!! franjoy listening from brooklyn ny is in the house listening to your 1970 show.

[carole cucumber]

A bit of trivia. Although "The Bells"/"I'll Wait For You" is the first single on TCMS Vol 10: 1970, it was the second single released by Motown that year.
The first, VIP 25053- Bobby Taylor's "Oh I've Been Blessed"/"Blackmail". The A-side had been scheduled for Gordy 7088 in July 1969 but not released then

[Methuselah2]

Kenneth - This is the TUNE IN link you might be thinking of:

http://tunein.com/station/?StationId=21750

[kenneth]

Kenneth - This is the TUNE IN link you might be thinking of:

http://tunein.com/station/?StationId=21750

That's it! Thanks so much Methusleah2! I just clicked it in and its audio quality is much better than going through WOMR's site directly and accessing the media via VLC. Thanks again!

[carole cucumber]

Kenneth - This is the TUNE IN link you might be thinking of:

http://tunein.com/station/?StationId=21750

For a funky experience, try listening from the WOMR link and this link at the same time!!!

[supremester]

How refreshing to see pics of Ethel Merman on this site! One of my faves, The Merm would have been perfect for The V.I.P. label.

TY Johnny!
Ty Bruce!!
Ty Motown!!!

[Methuselah2]

Lisa Fischer--
Grammy Award for Best Female R&B Vocal Performance*, awarded in 1992.

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*It was a tie--Patti LaBelle was awarded one, too.

[carole cucumber]

Blinky Williams states that she, Gloria Jones & Edna Wright-almost became a Motown girl group The Honeybees . Ah, what might have been!
And "Blackmail" was the b-side, see post #26

[kenneth]

For a funky experience, try listening from the WOMR link and this link at the same time!!!

That's way too surreal!

[carole cucumber]

"Green Grow the Lilacs" was the b-side, but it had already been the b-side of Joe's debut Motown single, "Midnight Cowboy"

[RossHolloway]

I think Stevie Wonder did his best work between 1967-71.

[carole cucumber]

I wish that the instruments weren't so muted on 'Somebody Knows, Somebody Cares"

[franjoy56]

Somebody know somebody cares is an album track on the mi cherie armor album released in the fall of 1969

[RossHolloway]

The b-side was Green Grows The Lilacs on his debut single from 1969.

[supremester]

There's NO business
like MO' business
like no business I know!!

[carole cucumber]

"What'cha Gonna Do" was released on the day of Diana Ross & the Supremes' final performance.
It took 6 attempts at the lead vocal between September 9, 1968 and May 31, 1969 to get the performance that was used. Terry says the Berry loved the song.

[144man]

The b-side of "What'cha Gonna Do" was "Suzie" which was scheduled for the flip of "My Springtime" in 1969.

[supremester]

Did Norman Whitfeld sue Edwin over "Time" ??

I bought the 45 before I realized how derivative it was, but his vocal is great

[carole cucumber]

Edwin Starr produced both sides of this single.

[midnight johnny]

There's NO business
like MO' business
like no business I know!!

Hey there, Greggy!!!

[supremester]

I Should Be Proud - and it's AMAZING vocal - was pulled and messed with. It never charted and a month after it was released, they did it on The Dating Game, I ordered it from our biggest record store and it didn't arrive until July. Even if it was gonna flop, it still would have charted low Pop and def R&B. This was originally scheduled for Gladys and given to Martha in late '69.

[supremester]

Do you have the alternate "Evils Of Society" ending for I Should Be Proud? It's great also.

[144man]

The Vietnam war-themed "Forget Me Not" had been a UK hit, so "I Should Be Proud" should have been an obvious choice for a single, yet it wasn't released over here. One of Martha's best records.

[midnight johnny]

Do you have the alternate "Evils Of Society" ending for I Should Be Proud? It's great also.

You mean the LP version?

[144man]

According to the libretto, Martha Reeves believed the government exerted pressure on radio stations not to play the record.

[franjoy56]

Thanks for playing three supremes tracks back to back your work deserves mention here "life beats" "up the ladder to, the roof" @nd "bill when are u coming back" . You are fabulous. And thank u for remebering the passing of beloved tammi terrell with a cute tribute. 1970 was a year of new possibilities.

[midnight johnny]

Thanks for playing three supremes tracks back to back your work deserves mention here "life beats" "up the ladder to, the roof" @nd "bill when are u coming back" . You are fabulous. And thank u for remebering the passing of beloved tammi terrell with a cute tribute.

Thank you, Franjoy....I truly appreciate it! So glad you're here! Awww...how could I forget Tammi.....never....ever!

[midnight johnny]

Folks....thank you all for letting me be a part of your evening. See you next week!!! John

[RossHolloway]

I haven't heard the long version of Get Ready by Rare Earth in a few years, what a great recording. I wonder what Smokey thought about Rare Earth's version of his song.

[kenneth]

The Vietnam war-themed "Forget Me Not" had been a UK hit, so "I Should Be Proud" should have been an obvious choice for a single, yet it wasn't released over here. One of Martha's best records.

Although war themed, I think "Forget Me Not" was a more universal message. It could apply to any girl saying goodbye to her fellow going off to war. Also, it wasn't a protest song. It was more along the lines of "Soldier Boy" by the Shirelles. Finally, I think it was just a better song all the way round than was "I Should Be Proud." Although I think Martha sings the hell out of "Should Be Proud," it has an odd melody structure, and I think is in a minor key [[though I'm no expert to be sure), and is not meant to be uplifting or melodic as is "Forget Me Not." I guess considering the times, the powers that be just felt the US market was not in the mood for any song that made going to war seem uplifting.

[144man]

Although war themed, I think "Forget Me Not" was a more universal message. It could apply to any girl saying goodbye to her fellow going off to war. Also, it wasn't a protest song. It was more along the lines of "Soldier Boy" by the Shirelles. Finally, I think it was just a better song all the way round than was "I Should Be Proud." Although I think Martha sings the hell out of "Should Be Proud," it has an odd melody structure, and I think is in a minor key [[though I'm no expert to be sure), and is not meant to be uplifting or melodic as is "Forget Me Not." I guess considering the times, the powers that be just felt the US market was not in the mood for any song that made going to war seem uplifting.

The odd melodic structure would have made it stand out from the crowd. "Forget Me Not" had the "Dixie" instrumental break to grab the attention. I think both songs would have been hits on both sides of the pond if they had received sufficient airplay.

[kenneth]

The odd melodic structure would have made it stand out from the crowd. "Forget Me Not" had the "Dixie" instrumental break to grab the attention. I think both songs would have been hits on both sides of the pond if they had received sufficient airplay.

You know at the time, living in Detroit, my parents subscribed to the London Illustrated Times [[!) and that magazine actually reviewed the single "I Should Be Proud," commenting how unusual it was to see a protest song from Martha & the Vandellas.