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marv2
06-29-2014, 04:02 PM
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/legal-and-management/6128668/smokey-robinson-points-to-us-constitution-in-fight

Robinson Working on a 'Spanglish' Album

The singer-songwriter argues that a federal copyright law preempts Claudette Robinson's claim of being entitled to a share of his big hits.

When U.S. lawmakers long ago decided to give authors the opportunity to terminate copyright grants to publishers, could they ever have imagined the novel dispute that is now playing out between legendary R&B singer Smokey Robinson and his ex-wife Claudette?

As previously covered, the famous singer/songwriter behind such hits as "My Girl" and "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" sued his former spouse in California federal court, seeking declaratory relief that once he terminated rights to songs, he wouldn't have to share the reclaimed rights with her. The defendant then filed counterclaims, pointing to a 1989 stipulated judgment made three years after their divorce that she says entitles to her to 50 percent of his compositions

At the heart of the dispute lies the intersection between federal copyright law and state family law, and for that reason in a motion to dismiss filed earlier this month, Smokey Robinson's lawyer said the counterclaims must fail.

"Federal law provides that Plaintiff – alone – recaptures all rights in the copyright notwithstanding any agreements to the contrary," states Smokey Robinson's motion. "On the other hand, Defendant asserts that under California community property and contract law, she is entitled to an undivided one-half interest in any recaptured copyrights Plaintiff may acquire in the future even though the marriage between Plaintiff and Defendant ended nearly 30 years ago."

Thus, in the songwriter's eyes, if there's an "irreconcilable conflict," then "federal law preempts state law" under the supremacy clause of the U.S. constitution.

Since the founding of the nation, there's always been a bit of tension between what the federal government is doing and the laws set up by the states, and except for an attempted divorce by southern states in the 1860s, everyone in the U.S. has managed to stay in a relationship together.

In answering the motion to dismiss on Thursday, Claudette Robinson's attorney says this time is no different, that her claims do no harm to legally recognized federal interests and present no preemption issues. Her legal papers place emphasis on the economic benefits of copyright, saying those are governed by state law. According to her answer, she's not attempting to interfere with his rights under the Copyright Act.

"Specifically, Ms. Robinson does not challenge Mr. Robinson’s exclusive right to decide whether to terminate prior grants," states the opposition. "Nor does she seek to interfere with whether, or under what terms, Mr. Robinson enters into new grants for [[or sells) the Community Musical Compositions, now that they have been exposed to the market and can fetch the fair value Congress legislatively made available to him. Mr. Robinson must simply honor his separate, non-preempted state law contractual obligations with his former wife of 27 years."

In a footnote in her legal argument, she also makes the case that if copyright law somehow nullified contract law, it would lead to "absurd results," exampled by an author who assigns his copyright for a royalty, then assigns a royalty stream to a third party for a million dollars without disclosing termination intentions: "Under Mr. Robinson’s misguided theory, the author could then terminate the grant to the publisher and not only recapture the copyright, but also claim that the royalty stream he assigned in exchange for the million dollars should end. There is nothing in the statute or the legislative history suggesting Congress intended such a result."

Termination continues to be a hot topic in the entertainment industry, and the Supreme Court could soon be deciding one end of the spectrum of who gets those rights, but here's another case examining who is conferred the benefits of reclaiming past glories.

midnightman
07-05-2014, 06:12 PM
Smokey, c'mon man!!!

marv2
07-05-2014, 06:29 PM
Smokey, c'mon man!!!

You would think, right? Uh huh, Smokey is being hard headed and you what that will make for...........

soulster
07-05-2014, 07:10 PM
What the hell happened between those two to make this so tenuous?

skooldem1
07-05-2014, 07:21 PM
I must be in the minority. No actually I think I'm alone on this topic. Child custody and divorce laws need to be changed in this country. They are unfair to men. They divorced 30 years ago. Damn. One would think that the men of this forum wouldn't be so gung-ho about a man having to still pay out money to his ex wife of over 30 years ago. I find it strange. I think that all the fake outrage has more to do with the fact that Smokey and Berry are friends, and that Smokey defends Berry.

midnightman
07-05-2014, 08:30 PM
You would think, right? Uh huh, Smokey is being hard headed and you what that will make for...........

Smokey is indeed being hard headed. He has to take this further in the media to embarrass himself in the process. SMDH

midnightman
07-05-2014, 08:31 PM
I must be in the minority. No actually I think I'm alone on this topic. Child custody and divorce laws need to be changed in this country. They are unfair to men. They divorced 30 years ago. Damn. One would think that the men of this forum wouldn't be so gung-ho about a man having to still pay out money to his ex wife of over 30 years ago. I find it strange. I think that all the fake outrage has more to do with the fact that Smokey and Berry are friends, and that Smokey defends Berry.

Oh no, I agree. I just wished it wasn't so public. That's my issue. Why even take it there? Just handle in private is all I ask. Smoke's relationship with BG has little to do with why some of us are shaking our heads. But to defend Claudette though, she was there from the beginning so it confuses things.

marv2
07-05-2014, 10:30 PM
Oh no, I agree. I just wished it wasn't so public. That's my issue. Why even take it there? Just handle in private is all I ask. Smoke's relationship with BG has little to do with why some of us are shaking our heads. But to defend Claudette though, she was there from the beginning so it confuses things.


Claudette? That woman is a saint! Smokey is making himself look like an ass. Just give her what she wants, he will still have more money than he'll ever need. Better he give it to her before they take it through the lawsuit.

midnightman
07-06-2014, 12:49 AM
Claudette? That woman is saint! Smokey making himself look like an ass. Just give her what she wants, he will still have more money than he'll ever need. Better he give it to her before that take it through the lawsuit.

Yeah. I'm not about to drag this woman through the mud because as far as I know, this lawsuit is only proving that Smoke is a little loony.

marv2
07-06-2014, 01:04 AM
Yeah. I'm not about to drag this woman through the mud because as far as I know, this lawsuit is only proving that Smoke is a little loony.

Midnightman, you understand more than you know.......................and I cannot say anything else along those lines.

soulster
07-06-2014, 11:08 AM
I must be in the minority. No actually I think I'm alone on this topic. Child custody and divorce laws need to be changed in this country. They are unfair to men. They divorced 30 years ago. Damn. One would think that the men of this forum wouldn't be so gung-ho about a man having to still pay out money to his ex wife of over 30 years ago. I find it strange. I think that all the fake outrage has more to do with the fact that Smokey and Berry are friends, and that Smokey defends Berry.

I agree that there should be a time limitation on how long you are required to pay alimony. But, as far as divorce settlements are concerned, the books are stacked against men, in general. But, child custody is usually a state-by-state thing. I know plenty of fathers who were granted custody of their children [[one guy I am friends with gained permanent sole custody of his ex-girlfriend's daughter!). My state only cares about the best interest of the child in these cases.

Crystaledwards
07-06-2014, 12:17 PM
Midnightman, you understand more than you know.......................and I cannot say anything else along those lines.

I hope all former alumnus of Motown Records treasure and cherish you for never divulging their private information Marvin.

Your discretion is admirable and beyond reproach and shows outstanding character.

I bet you have some very compelling secrets under your hat. Heaven forbid you pen your autobiography or a Roman à clef. You would have have the surviving Motown stars running for the hills.

CE

RossHolloway
07-06-2014, 01:09 PM
I hope all former alumnus of Motown Records treasure and cherish you for never divulging their private information Marvin.

Your discretion is admirable and beyond reproach and shows outstanding character.

I bet you have some very compelling secrets under your hat. Heaven forbid you pen your autobiography or a Roman à clef. You would have have the surviving Motown stars running for the hills.

CE

Except that he's full of BS and you shouldn't not believe 99.9% of the things that he writes.

marv2
07-06-2014, 01:40 PM
Except that he's full of BS and you shouldn't not believe 99.9% of the things that he writes.

Uhhhh, I think you have me confused with the person standing in front of your mirror being that you do not know shit about me!

Crystaledwards
07-06-2014, 02:16 PM
Except that he's full of BS and you shouldn't not believe 99.9% of the things that he writes.

But you must admit, Marvin is a very convincing poseur. and I personally find good fiction exceedingly compelling.

CE

marv2
07-06-2014, 02:35 PM
But you must admit, Marvin is a very convincing poseur. and I personally find good fiction exceedingly compelling.

CE

Pound it Crystal?????? Pound it!

Crystaledwards
07-06-2014, 03:03 PM
Pound it Crystal?????? Pound it!

Oh you are a such a tease Marvin, but then again you always had the gift of tantalizing and arousing without delivering. It's part of your unbridled charm.

CE

RossHolloway
07-07-2014, 09:26 AM
Oh you are a such a tease Marvin, but then again you always had the gift of tantalizing and arousing without delivering. It's part of your unbridled charm.

CE
You call it charm, I call it BS..

marv2
07-07-2014, 09:48 AM
You call it charm, I call it BS..

Who cares? You don't know me.

Crystaledwards
07-07-2014, 11:53 AM
You call it charm, I call it BS..

It is actually combination of both which may be hard for some to grasp. Marvin and I have a sporadic history together and although I haven't seen him in a few years, I admit to have been taken in on a few occassions by his beguiling and fanciful tales of Motown Records.

CE

144man
07-08-2014, 07:21 AM
There really are emoticons needed for sarcasm and irony.

midnightman
07-08-2014, 01:56 PM
^ I agree lmao

jobeterob
07-08-2014, 07:17 PM
;)

I agree too.