Jack Ashford Says Blurred Lines Ain't No Rip Off

[jobeterob]

http://wreg.com/2013/10/21/legendary-memphis-musician-puts-blurred-lines-debate-into-focus/

[soulster]

The song is ancient now. The story is dated October 21, 2013. People are still thinking about this?

Anyway, thanks for the article. I had no idea that Marvin and Ashford were the only two on his record.

Whatever happened to the good-old days when people just enjoyed borrowing from another, and didn't worry about somebody ripping off somebody else?

[splanky]

Whatever happened to the good-old days when people just enjoyed borrowing from another, and didn't worry about somebody ripping off somebody else?

Gee, when was that? I must have missed those days somehow....

[marybrewster]

Does anyone ever know what happened with this lawsuit? Wasn't the Gaye Estate going to take Thicke to court? Or was that dropped?

[jobeterob]

Does anyone ever know what happened with this lawsuit? Wasn't the Gaye Estate going to take Thicke to court? Or was that dropped?

I believe the Blurred Lines people tried to prempt a law suit and they may have commenced court action asking for a declaration that they did not borrow from Got to Give it Up.

As Jack Ashford said, the publicity helped both songs.

[marv2]

The song is ancient now. The story is dated October 21, 2013. People are still thinking about this?

Anyway, thanks for the article. I had no idea that Marvin and Ashford were the only two on his record.

Whatever happened to the good-old days when people just enjoyed borrowing from another, and didn't worry about somebody ripping off somebody else?

I don't know of many people still talking about this issue.

[marv2]

Does anyone ever know what happened with this lawsuit? Wasn't the Gaye Estate going to take Thicke to court? Or was that dropped?

I don't believe it was dropped because they are contending that there have been other songs by Marvin Gaye that Robin Thicke has "appropriated"..........

Here is a MUCH better example of how Robin Thicke ABSOLUTELY STOLE from Marvin Gaye:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lulD8Ulshsw

[jobeterob]

Sorry Marv ~ Stevie Wonder and Jack Ashford have a lot more clout and sway than you!

[smark21]

Robin Thicke's career seems to have stalled and hasn't really built on the huge success of Blurred Lines. Most likely due to getting upstaged by Miley Cyrus at the VMAs last year and the dissolution of his marriage to Paula Patton with the stories he had been cheating on her for years. Poor stage presence and sleazy tabloid tales can damage one's career.

[marv2]

Sorry Marv ~ Stevie Wonder and Jack Ashford have a lot more clout and sway than you!

Yeah but I got ears and I am about 20 years younger than them! Bite me!

[soulster]

I don't know of many people still talking about this issue.
Me neither. No one cares.

[supremester]

You don't???

Look in the mirror: YOU started a thread on this very subject just yesterday!!!!

LOL!!!
hehehehehehehehehe


I don't know of many people still talking about this issue.

[marv2]

You don't???

Look in the mirror: YOU started a thread on this very subject just yesterday!!!!

LOL!!!
hehehehehehehehehe

Learn how to read for comprehension and not just to make some kind of quick snarky response. The thread I started was AFTER this one was posted and I started it to further highlight this issue of Robin Thicke" borrowing" from Marvin Gaye. Go listen to an old Diana Ross record and leave this discussion to intelligent people.

[soulster]

Can we get through one thread without people bickering?

[jobeterob]

Yeah but I got ears and I am about 20 years younger than them! Bite me!

They have ears too and were successful. You weren't. You're only claim to fame is your misery.

[marv2]

They have ears too and were successful. You weren't. You're only claim to fame is your misery.

Shouldn't you be somewhere digging up more pictures of Diana Ross grocery shopping?

[ralpht]

Rob and Marv....please cool it.

[marv2]

Rob and Marv....please cool it.

Ok Ralph. Sorry

[ralpht]

Thank you, Marv. And I do have to chime in on this thread. Jack is absolutely right. you can't copyright a riff.

[marv2]

Thank you, Marv. And I do have to chime in on this thread. Jack is absolutely right. you can't copyright a riff.

Ralph, but was it just a riff? I mean, when people heard Robin's song, they immediately thought of Marvin's hit song. Was that riff so strong comparisons could not help being made?

[ralpht]

I don't know Marv. The rhythm track sounds rather basic to me.

[marv2]

I don't know Marv. The rhythm track sounds rather basic to me.

I hear ya, I probably could find that same beat in a Polka! LOL! Thanks Ralph

[ralpht]

Don't start knocking polkas, Marv.....

[soulster]

We don't wanna piss off "Wierd" Al Yankovic.

[marv2]

Don't start knocking polkas, Marv.....

Ralph! Remember I lived in Toledo! LOL!!!!!

[midnightman]

Robin Thicke's career seems to have stalled and hasn't really built on the huge success of Blurred Lines. Most likely due to getting upstaged by Miley Cyrus at the VMAs last year and the dissolution of his marriage to Paula Patton with the stories he had been cheating on her for years. Poor stage presence and sleazy tabloid tales can damage one's career.

If anything the song was the best thing to happen to him and the worst thing to happen to him. He got success and it overwhelmed him and him being accused of stealing royalties from Marvin's family [[not to mention a good chunk of the R&B community thinking he outright ripped MG off) just added to it no matter how many defenses he gets from those who were close to Marvin [[Stevie, Jack, etc.). I was mad last year but that anger has given away to sadness for him. He was never a good live performer either. And also he tried too hard to be hip-hop.

[midnightman]

I don't know Marv. The rhythm track sounds rather basic to me.

Pharrell claimed the same thing lol he said Marvin's was more complex. If anything he was dissing his own production while giving respect to Marvin's and Art Stewart's lmao

[ralpht]

Marv and Soulster,
I was squeezing out polkas on my trusty accordion while you dudes were still in knee pants. These were the days pre-dating Rock And Roll.

[marv2]

Marv and Soulster,
I was squeezing out polkas on my trusty accordion while you dudes were still in knee pants. These were the days pre-dating Rock And Roll.

Ralph! hehehehehehehe.........LOL!!!

[marv2]

8162 A picture is worth a few words.....The mighty Glo-Worms kicking out the jams....


Oh that is too much! LOL! You look like you are seriously workin' it! LOL! Is that Russ in the middle on the guitar?

Ok, my top 3 Polkas:

"The Beer Barrell Polka"
"The Pennsylvania Polka"
and "The She's Too Fat for Me Polka"! LOL! Ralph, ever play any of those?

[ralpht]

Yeah, that's Russ on guitar. Fred Saxon an saxophone.
Are you kidding me, Marv? I must have played those songs a billion times. We played a lot of Italian, Polish, Slavic, you name it affairs, so we were always prepared to give them what they wanted. Polkas! It was a grand day when Rock & Roll made the scene and saved us. I have these images of myself at my age, playing polkas on my accordion, solo, to a disinterested saloon crowd for tips. Thanks to Rock and Roll I can now play the piano, in a saloon, to a disinterested crowd for tips.

[marv2]

Ralph, I guess I don't have to tell ya that market for Polkas is just not what it use to be today! LOL!!!! Rock On Ralph!

Big question: Can you still play the accordion?

[thomas96]

Shouldn't you be somewhere digging up more pictures of Diana Ross grocery shopping?

LOL. Sorry Rob, that was funny.

[ralpht]

Hey, I wanted to delete one of the pics that seemed to have posted twice, and lost both of them. I'll repost it.

[ralpht]

8164

Ahhh... Once again the Mighty Glo-Worms...

[ralpht]

Marv,
I do have an accordion, which I rarely play.

[ralpht]

8165

Maybe we are a year older here, but I'll bet we're playing a polka.

[marv2]

Marv,
I do have an accordion, which I rarely play.

I use to play the recorder/flute and later the sax, which I can't seem to get the hang of anymore. You are so very lucky to have these pics of you guys as kids doing your thing.

[marv2]

8165

Maybe we are a year older here, but I'll bet we're playing a polka.

Do you remember where that was?

[ralpht]

Not a clue, Marv. Somewhere in Detroit I'm sure.

[thomas96]

I use to play the recorder/flute and later the sax, which I can't seem to get the hang of anymore. You are so very lucky to have these pics of you guys as kids doing your thing.

Oh god! I remember being forced to play the recorder. I was terrible!

[marv2]

Oh god! I remember being forced to play the recorder. I was terrible!

Remember? LOL!!!! Like 4th Grade, huh?

[marv2]

Not a clue, Marv. Somewhere in Detroit I'm sure.

Well all I know is that bow-ties means it was the 1950's!

[ralpht]

Snazzy, huh Marv? Yeah, 50's for sure. probably 53 or so.

[smark21]

Maybe Robin Thicke will cut a polka song as his next single?

[marv2]

Snazzy, huh Marv? Yeah, 50's for sure. probably 53 or so.

Man! Parents in general in those days really were concerned about how their kids looked and were represented in public. My father use to dress my brother Robert and me as mini versions of him for church, school and civic funtions LOL! Ralph I can tell your parents were also "il migliore" when it came to their kids!

[marv2]

Maybe Robin Thicke will cut a polka song as his next single?

It couldn't hurt as long as it was his original composition. Smark, don't you value originality over imitation/flattery?

[ralpht]

So much so Marv, that I even had an uncle with the last name Migliore.