supremes itinerary - 72 and 73

[sup_fan]

1972
February
February 1972 Frontier Hotel Las Vegas
2/17/72 Over And Over background vocals
2/17/72 The Wisdom Of Time background vocals
2/17/72 Oh Be My Love background vocals
2/17/72 Automatically Sunshine background vocals
2/18/72 Your Wonderful Sweet Sweet Love background vocals
2/18/72 A Heart Like Mine background vocals
2/18/72 Precious Little Things background vocals

March - June 1972
Jimmy Webb sessions

June 1972 Copa New York
June 1972 Palmer House Chicago

07/5/1972 The Grove Los Angeles
August 1972 Shady Grove Music Fair Washington, D.C
08/19/1972 Valley Forge, PA Jean, Mary & Lynda with The Temptations
October 1972 Maria Isobel Mexico

unknown dates
I Guess I'll Miss The Man
Now The Bitter, Now The Sweet


1973
January
1/24/73 Bad Weather background vocals
January 1973 Elmwood Casino Ontario Canada Jean, Mary & Lynda
1/25/73 Bad Weather lead vocals

February 1973 Flamboyan Hotel San Juan Puerto Rico
March
3/3/73 Mike Douglas Show performing Stoned Love and I Guess I'll Miss The Man


04/19 - 5/9/1973 Venetian Room & The Fairmont San Francisco
06/02/1973 Tokyo Japan Jean. Mary & Lynda
06/30 - 7/11/1973 Bachelors III Fort Lauderdale
08//07 - 12 1973 Magic Mountain Anaheim CA

unknown recording dates
Love Train
Soft Days
I'll Wait A Lifetime

[supremester]

You are simply amazing - thank you so much for taking the time to share your Supreme data!

[marv2]

1972
February
February 1972 Frontier Hotel Las Vegas
2/17/72 Over And Over background vocals
2/17/72 The Wisdom Of Time background vocals
2/17/72 Oh Be My Love background vocals
2/17/72 Automatically Sunshine background vocals
2/18/72 Your Wonderful Sweet Sweet Love background vocals
2/18/72 A Heart Like Mine background vocals
2/18/72 Precious Little Things background vocals



Hmmmm....... All of these songs were recorded in 1972 with Cindy Birdsong in the group, but Lynda Laurence said that she joined the Supremes in 1971. How come Cindy is on these recordings and not Lynda? hmmmmmmm.........

[sup_fan]

i'm guessing its just a slip of the memory. 71, 72. close enough lol. I believe Lynda's first dates with the group were in April. Cindy was doing the recording and performing during the first couple of months. she's the speaking part in Wisdom of time

[marv2]

i'm guessing its just a slip of the memory. 71, 72. close enough lol. I believe Lynda's first dates with the group were in April. Cindy was doing the recording and performing during the first couple of months. she's the speaking part in Wisdom of time

You are absolutely correct! Lynda was slipping...........hehehehehehehe,.....!

[rod_rick]

1972
February
February 1972 Frontier Hotel Las Vegas
2/17/72 Over And Over background vocals
2/17/72 The Wisdom Of Time background vocals
2/17/72 Oh Be My Love background vocals
2/17/72 Automatically Sunshine background vocals
2/18/72 Your Wonderful Sweet Sweet Love background vocals
2/18/72 A Heart Like Mine background vocals
2/18/72 Precious Little Things background vocals

March - June 1972
Jimmy Webb sessions

June 1972 Copa New York
June 1972 Palmer House Chicago

07/5/1972 The Grove Los Angeles
August 1972 Shady Grove Music Fair Washington, D.C
08/19/1972 Valley Forge, PA Jean, Mary & Lynda with The Temptations
October 1972 Maria Isobel Mexico

unknown dates
I Guess I'll Miss The Man
Now The Bitter, Now The Sweet


1973
January
1/24/73 Bad Weather background vocals
January 1973 Elmwood Casino Ontario Canada Jean, Mary & Lynda
1/25/73 Bad Weather lead vocals

February 1973 Flamboyan Hotel San Juan Puerto Rico
March
3/3/73 Mike Douglas Show performing Stoned Love and I Guess I'll Miss The Man


04/19 - 5/9/1973 Venetian Room & The Fairmont San Francisco
06/02/1973 Tokyo Japan Jean. Mary & Lynda
06/30 - 7/11/1973 Bachelors III Fort Lauderdale
08//07 - 12 1973 Magic Mountain Anaheim CA

unknown recording dates
Love Train
Soft Days
I'll Wait A Lifetime

I believe the Grove date listed is also with the Temptations. It was a recorded special, would love for that to appear.

[thommg]

I believe the Grove date listed is also with the Temptations. It was a recorded special, would love for that to appear.

Also the Shady Grove Music Fair dates in August 1972 were with the Temptations. I was there.

[sup_fan]

thanks guys! i have updated my records accordingly :)

[supremester]

Lynda was hired in late '71 but Cindy was still functioning as a member - it took time to be a Supreme. Shall we bring up other quotes from members of that group that turned out to be "hmmmmmmmmmmmmm's" as well???? Lemme know. I used to date a guy who would love to help us out on that thread.

Hmmmm....... All of these songs were recorded in 1972 with Cindy Birdsong in the group, but Lynda Laurence said that she joined the Supremes in 1971. How come Cindy is on these recordings and not Lynda? hmmmmmmm.........

[bradsupremes]

Lynda was hired in late '71 but Cindy was still functioning as a member - it took time to be a Supreme. Shall we bring up other quotes from members of that group that turned out to be "hmmmmmmmmmmmmm's" as well???? Lemme know. I used to date a guy who would love to help us out on that thread.

How could Lynda have been hired in 1971 before Cindy was even pregnant? If her son David was born until October 1972 then that would mean Cindy didn't become pregnant until February 1972 which was when the sessions for the Floy Joy album were occurring.

[supremester]

Your math can't be incorrect but I know I've read more than once [[I think) that she began in late '71. I'll sniff around. My birthday is next week, senility is also a possibility but I don't think it's that bad. Maybe Cindy was planning on leaving so they started the search. I can email Lynda and ask her.

I think Lynda's first date was in Hawaii when Motown insisted she fill in for Jean - and did so admirably.

[supremester]

Recorded as a TV Special? That would be amazing to see. Did they do songs together?

Did JMC/JML appear once or twice a year at The Frontier? When was their last date?
I believe the Grove date listed is also with the Temptations. It was a recorded special, would love for that to appear.

[floyjoy678]

In Mary's book she says that Cindy had been hinting around for a while that she was going to leave the group then when she got pregnant it became official. So maybe they were looking around for a replacement before that just in case.

[supremester]

I think you nailed it. Also, Lynda did a Q&A at Diana in Dallas and discussed that period where she a had joined the group but wasn't performing or recording yet.

[bradsupremes]

Well if that's the case then Jean should say she joined the Supremes in 1969. Cindy could say she was in the group in 1966.

All of the ladies dates are off. Mary has said "You Keep Me Hangin' On" is from 1965. Diana once claimed "Reflections" was from 1973. Lynda can say she joined the group in 1971, but it is well documented she didn't join until 1972 and that's the consensus we go by. Even if you're rehearsing months beforehand like Jean was, you're not considered in the group until you make your first public appearance as a group member. As I see it if Lynda wasn't performing or recording with the group in 1971 [[which she wasn't) then she wasn't in the group as she wasn't included in the group activities and decisions.

[aarondillon2011@gmail.com]

I was also part of the group briefly between November 12th 1973 and November 14th 1973

[marv2]

I think you nailed it. Also, Lynda did a Q&A at Diana in Dallas and discussed that period where she a had joined the group but wasn't performing or recording yet.

Yeah.........BUT her whole purpose in joining the group was to replace an expectant Cindy Birdsong. Cindy Birdsong did not even get pregnant until 1972 as her David was born in October 1972! If she is telling people she joined the Supremes in 1971 and is completely sure about that......then she is lying.
!

[marv2]

I was also part of the group briefly between November 12th 1973 and November 14th 1973

Was that you? OMG! I knew there was something different going on during the era.......

[rod_rick]

Recorded as a TV Special? That would be amazing to see. Did they do songs together?

Did JMC/JML appear once or twice a year at The Frontier? When was their last date?

Yes they performed together. I'm thinking it must have during the time the Supremes and the Temptations toured together. I've seen a few stills from the program. One photo is of both groups with the Supremes wearing the white bugle bead dresses with the long fringe on the arms the Tempts are in white tux with black trim. As i recall the special/ documentary was shown twice in Los Angeles

[supremester]

I would think that would only endear her more to you - all things considered. AS is was stated above, it is possible that they began a search for and signed Lynda in preparation of Cindy's impending reproduction. It's also possible Cindy had reason to think it would be earlier.
Yeah.........BUT her whole purpose in joining the group was to replace an expectant Cindy Birdsong. Cindy Birdsong did not even get pregnant until 1972 as her David was born in October 1972! If she is telling people she joined the Supremes in 1971 and is completely sure about that......then she is lying.
!

[supremester]

I think I saw that pic also, Rod. Hearing Jean and Dennis together must have been a thrill.

[marv2]

I would think that would only endear her more to you - all things considered. AS is was stated above, it is possible that they began a search for and signed Lynda in preparation of Cindy's impending reproduction. It's also possible Cindy had reason to think it would be earlier.

They did not start any search in 1971 for no Linda Tucker! Mary, Jean and Cindy were on tour of the UK as late as November 1971. An article ran in "Right On" Magazine well into 1972 introducing Tucker, Laurence, Lawrence as Cindy Birdsong's replacement. Pics of Linda with Stevie Wonder were included in the article and some of Linda in hot pants! They did not start a search or hold auditions for a temp sub that early with the anticipation that Miss Birdsong would eventually get knocked up!....... This is crazy LOL!!!!!

[skooldem1]

What are we talking here, 4 months or so? Folks here are upset over a 4 month or so discrepancy?

[supremester]

He may be upset, I'm just curious to the lengths he'll go. He is also the guy who said Miss Ross was broke after investing with Bernie Madoff and that Mary got her Hollywood Palace solo because she demanded it and the assistant director sided with her. LOL. Now he's saying he knows when they began looking for Cindy's replacement.

[marybrewster]

Unless I missed it, does anyone know the date that Mary, Cindy and Lynda performed in Hawaii?

[REDHOT]

Lynda join The Supremes in 1971,that show you're asking about marybrewster,in Hawaii was in 1971,a lot of fans here know that,i'm sure of that,i don't understand what kind of game is this,they are playing,Lynda Laurence join The Supremes in 1971,like her or don't like her,but don't make things up,really?lol

[bradsupremes]

Lynda join The Supremes in 1971,that show you're asking about marybrewster,in Hawaii was in 1971,a lot of fans here know that,i'm sure of that,i don't understand what kind of game is this,they are playing,Lynda Laurence join The Supremes in 1971,like her or don't like her,but don't make things up,really?lol

The Hawaii show was at the H.I.C. Arena in Honolulu in 1972. Cindy was still recording and performing with the group up to April 1972.

[sup_fan]

i'm assuming the girls aren't as obsessive about facts and details as we are lol. if someone asked me at a moment's notice what year i did such-n-such with my job, i'd have to pause and think. in in given an interview, they're trained to respond and respond quickly. if she said 71, it could very well be just a slip and she was just trying to answer quickly. as brad said, all of the women have mixed up years of things during interviews and concerts

Brad - any idea who's doing back grounds for I Guess I'll Miss the Man? is that a lynda recording?

[marv2]

The Hawaii show was at the H.I.C. Arena in Honolulu in 1972. Cindy was still recording and performing with the group up to April 1972.

Lynda Laurence debut with the Supremes was in May 1972. She quit the group in 1973.

[skooldem1]

Its a 5 month difference folks. What difference does it make?

[danman869]

If we're clarifying here, Magic Mountain is located in Valencia, California--not in Anaheim [[that's where Disneyland is located).

[nathanj06]

From wiki: She [[Lynda Laurence) was a member of The Supremes from April 1972 through October 1973, replacing Cindy Birdsong, who left the trio to have a baby and begin raising her family. Though not the gospel but who cares. Who cares when she was hired? What difference does it make? Some of you go on about the most inane things. God almighty.

[marv2]

From wiki: She [[Lynda Laurence) was a member of The Supremes from April 1972 through October 1973, replacing Cindy Birdsong, who left the trio to have a baby and begin raising her family. Though not the gospel but who cares. Who cares when she was hired? What difference does it make? Some of you go on about the most inane things. God almighty.


.....things like who sang the background on "Stop in the Name of Love"........

[jobeterob]

.....things like who sang the background on "Stop in the Name of Love"........

Aha! And there we have it. An admission that the participants in Stop in the Name of Love are open to question.

But I have to admit, the rest of this thread made me think of Hilary Clinton and "What difference does it make?"

[marv2]

Aha! And there we have it. An admission that the participants in Stop in the Name of Love are open to question.

But I have to admit, the rest of this thread made me think of Hilary Clinton and "What difference does it make?"

Mary Wilson, Florence Ballard and Diana Ross sang and recorded "Stop In the Name of Love". I hope that is clear enough for you. I never had any doubt about that!

[Roberta75]

Its a 5 month difference folks. What difference does it make?

None whatsoever but for those who dislike Linda Lawrence and try to disqualify her as a Supreme it mean the world to them.

Roberta

[Roberta75]

He may be upset, I'm just curious to the lengths he'll go. He is also the guy who said Miss Ross was broke after investing with Bernie Madoff and that Mary got her Hollywood Palace solo because she demanded it and the assistant director sided with her. LOL. Now he's saying he knows when they began looking for Cindy's replacement.

He think hes the 10th Supreme supremester and in his mind he know everything about every Supreme. LOL

[marv2]

He think hes the 10th Supreme supremester and in his mind he know everything about every Supreme. LOL

No, I think, errr....... I know you are Jonc and will never contribute anything valuable or interesting to this forum. You use it in the place of having a life!

[Roberta75]

No, I think, errr....... I know you are Jonc and will never contribute anything valuable or interesting to this forum. You use it in the place of having a life!

You can call me who you like dear DetroitLive313 but I am Roberta and unlike you I dont hate or spread hate or tell lies.

Have a real nice evening.

Roberta

[supremester]

I spoke to Eric last night and didn't think to ask when Lynda joined however he did mention that Cindy trained Lynda and taught her the show and that there were four Supremes under contract for a while [[like when Flo & Cindy overlapped.) Since the last official Motown approved and sanctioned grouping was Diana, Lynda & Scherrie, I guess he should know.