"Nightflight" Tue Oct 1, 9P-12M ET: COMPLETE MOTOWN SINGLES Series...1962!!!

[midnight johnny]

Howdy, "Nightflight" Listeners!!! Welcome to October!!!
And welcome back to the continuing marathon known as the Government Shutdown caused by our favorite maniacs and poor sports...the House of Representatives Republicans!! Aren't they just terrific?? Let's give them a BIG hand....I won't say where!

But on a more pleasant note....welcome back to my marathon series of The Complete Motown Singles Collection. Last week, I aired much of Volume 1...1959-1961. Tonight, we move on to Volume 2...1962!

Again, I won't be able to play everything [[as Carole Cucumber identified last week...there are almost 1800 tracks to this magnificent collection...and it would take 20- 30 shows to air it all....PHEW!), but I'll play all I can fit in 3 hours!

Last but certainly not least...a huge thank you to SDF's own Rossholloway [[aka Bobby Gardner), who most generously shared 75% of the tracks you will hear throughout the airing of TCMS!!! Thanks so much, Bobby!!

All this Motown...and MORE...tonight...on "Nightflight"...on WOMR 92.1 FM Provincetown and WFMR 91.3 FM Orleans and streaming live worldwide at www.womr.org
Thanks LOADS!
John

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[sophisticated_soul]

Always wondered why they left the "The" off "The One Who Really Loves You" on that album
cover:confused: No matter, 1962 was a great year for Motown music. It was the beginning of the beginning. The prelude to a dream. See you and the gang on the Radiola for some great memory makers!:cool:

[carole cucumber]

Always wondered why they left the "The" off "The One Who Really Loves You" on that album
cover:confused: No matter, 1962 was a great year for Motown music. It was the beginning of the beginning. The prelude to a dream. See you and the gang on the Radiola for some great memory makers!:cool:

Looking at the posted album cover, the answer may rest with a personal quirk of someone [[artistic director?) who wanted symmetry. Notice that the stars on the left [[that list the Motown stars) contain 2 lines and 2 names/words.
The song title symmetry would be 5-1-5-1-2 [[number of words in song title)
Just a guess..

[midnight johnny]

Always wondered why they left the "The" off "The One Who Really Loves You" on that album
cover:confused: No matter, 1962 was a great year for Motown music. It was the beginning of the beginning. The prelude to a dream. See you and the gang on the Radiola for some great memory makers!:cool:

Hey Joe! I Didn't realize that!!! Yes...1962....the beginning of the beginning...or the END??? See you on a lovely Radiola! Like THIS one....did you know Radiolas made TVs too?
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[sophisticated_soul]

Hey Joe! I Didn't realize that!!! Yes...1962....the beginning of the beginning...or the END??? See you on a lovely Radiola! Like THIS one....did you know Radiolas made TVs too?

"It's not the end, it's not the beginning of the end, it's the end of the beginning".

[carole cucumber]

Looking at the posted album cover, the answer may rest with a personal quirk of someone [[artistic director?) who wanted symmetry. Notice that the stars on the left [[that list the Motown stars) contain 2 lines and 2 names/words.
The song title symmetry would be 5-1-5-1-2 [[number of words in song title)
Just a guess..

Looking at the cover again there is a perhaps unintended/unplaned alternate symmetry ;
1-1-5-4-5 [[solo artist/number of members in group) [subtracting 1 from each group of 5 leaves 4; and amazingly, the Valadiers began with 5 members but ended up with 4 at the time of their signing to Motown].

[RossHolloway]

I can't wait to hear what songs MJ selects for tonights show!

[sophisticated_soul]

Looking at the cover again there is a perhaps unintended/unplaned alternate symmetry ;
1-1-5-4-5 [[solo artist/number of members in group) [subtracting 1 from each group of 5 leaves 4; and amazingly, the Valadiers began with 5 members but ended up with 4 at the time of their signing to Motown].

Also the complete title of The Valadiers song is actually "Greetings [[This Is Uncle Sam)". Parenthetical or not it's still part of the actual title.

[144man]

1962 includes what I consider to be the worst Motown single ever made [[excluding novelties), namely "I Cried All Night" by Debbie Dean - so bad it hurts my ears, yet I found her "A New Girl" from 1961 irresistible. It took her until 1965 to redeem herself with the Northern Soul favourite "Why Am I Loving You".

I'll be catching a few hours sleep shortly so I can tune in.

[midnight johnny]

I can't wait to hear what songs MJ selects for tonights show!

I COITENLY hope so!

[midnight johnny]

1962 includes what I consider to be the worst Motown single ever made [[excluding novelties), namely "I Cried All Night" by Debbie Dean - so bad it hurts my ears, yet I found her "A New Girl" from 1961 irresistible. It took her until 1965 to redeem herself with the Northern Soul favourite "Why Am I Loving You".

I'll be catching a few hours sleep shortly so I can tune in.

Martin...you'll be asleep as I post this [[hopefully). Glad you'll be listening! See you in a bit!

[midnight johnny]

1962 includes what I consider to be the worst Motown single ever made [[excluding novelties), namely "I Cried All Night" by Debbie Dean - so bad it hurts my ears, yet I found her "A New Girl" from 1961 irresistible. It took her until 1965 to redeem herself with the Northern Soul favourite "Why Am I Loving You".

I'll be catching a few hours sleep shortly so I can tune in.

I was going to say something about Debbie Dean [[vocalist)....just as well I don't......

[midnight johnny]

....in the studio......Howdyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

[Glenpwood]

Evening John and the gang!

Got my 1962 box set in one hand and cocktail in the other... Look forward to the sonic delights to come...

[MotownLover]

Howdy there MJ! :cool:

Anticipating a totally Motown show tonight!

Howard in Long Beach, CA

[midnight johnny]

Evening John and the gang!

Got my 1962 box set in one hand and cocktail in the other... Look forward to the sonic delights to come...

How Do! Great to see you, Glen! A cocktail sounds loverly!!!

[sophisticated_soul]

1962! Motown was heating up. I was 11 years old and sold newspapers. Three cents of every dime [[the newspaper cost a dime in those days) I made was mine. And all those 3 cents' were spent on 45s, mostly Motown. Memories.:)

[midnight johnny]

Howdy there MJ! :cool:

Anticipating a totally Motown show tonight!

Howard in Long Beach, CA

Howard.....wonderful that you're hear!!

[144man]

Hello, hello. London calling. Two o'clock and all's well!

[Glenpwood]

I poured a double to keep things balanced with the weight of the box set....;)

[midnight johnny]

Hello, hello. London calling. Two o'clock and all's well!


Martin...G'morning and welcome.....Cheers!!!

[carole cucumber]

1962! Motown was heating up. I was 11 years old and sold newspapers. Three cents of every dime [[the newspaper cost a dime in those days) I made was mine. And all those 3 cents' were spent on 45s, mostly Motown. Memories.:)

My! How chic you were! How magnifique you were! How old you are! LOL!! [[I'm not all that far behind you- and my brother sold subscriptions to the local paper, rather than the paper itself ).

[carole cucumber]

According to Gino Parks [[and TCMSC notes) , Henry Lumpkin ''sort of resembled Chubby Checker, same heftiness and everything".

[midnight johnny]

I poured a double to keep things balanced with the weight of the box set....;)

Very smart!!!!!

[sophisticated_soul]

My! How chic you were! How magnifique you were! How old you are! LOL!! [[I'm not all that far behind you- and my brother sold subscriptions to the local paper, rather than the paper itself ).

I did not have a paper route as such. My paper boss would drop me off at a busy intersection with a couple bundles of newspapers which I sold to passing pedestrians and stopped vehicles. Sometimes if business was slow I would shout out the headlines. LOL!!!!! It was a different time!!LOL!!!:D

[144man]

Request of a Fool - The Downbeats

One of the few Motown records where the title isn't mentioned in the lyrics.

[carole cucumber]

Johnny Dawson of the Elgins says in The Motown Anthology that Elgins is pronounced just as one would pronounce the name of his favorite brand of wristwatch.

[carole cucumber]

Don't forget that Debbie Dean was given a picture sleeve for that single.

[sophisticated_soul]

The quote from The Elgins Motown Anthology is:

"According to Johnny [[Dawson) , the name, which is pronounced El-jins [[and not with a hard 'g'!), was adopted from his favourite brand of wristwatch".

[midnight johnny]

Don't forget that Debbie Dean was given a picture sleeve for that single.


What...no money???

[midnight johnny]

The quote from The Elgins Motown Anthology is:

"According to Johnny [[Dawson) , the name, which is pronounced El-jins [[and not with a hard 'g'!), was adopted from his favourite brand of wristwatch".

Thank you, Joseph. Carole....turn in your I.D. badge! [[kidding.....)

[carole cucumber]

What...no money???

How could she be given money if it didn't bring in any!!!!!

[midnight johnny]

how could she be given money if it didn't bring in any!!!!!

very good!!!!!

[carole cucumber]

Thank you, Joseph. Carole....turn in your I.D. badge! [[kidding.....)

Yes El jins with a soft g as in "gin" not a hard 'g 'as in begin.
Do those of tonight's posters whose first names begin with a J and who pronounce that j with the same sound as the g in gin get it?

[sophisticated_soul]

Yes, Cleopatra took a chance, on two hot Roman dudes, but it wound up biting her in the asp.:rolleyes::)

[midnight johnny]

Yes El jins with a soft g as in "gin" not a hard 'g 'as in begin.
Do those of tonight's posters whose first names begin with a J and who pronounce that j with the same sound as the g in gin get it?

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[RossHolloway]

Marvin's A Soldier's Plea and You're Heart Belongs To Me by the Supreme's have a common a common theme.

[Glenpwood]

Diana should recut this next year and update it to He's Seventy

[sophisticated_soul]

Early Supremes! Nothing like it!!! Still my most favorite Supremes music!:cool:

[Glenpwood]

Why would Flo Mary and Barbara not know Diane's age... Love their background responses though....

[midnight johnny]

Diana should recut this next year and update it to He's Seventy


WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!! Cocktails certainly give you a kick!!!!

[carole cucumber]

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g as in gin not as in the French je [[zhe) Or must we now call you Zhonny & Zhoseph?

[carole cucumber]

Why would Flo Mary and Barbara not know Diane's age... Love their background responses though....

This would be Barbara Martin's last appearance on a Supremes' single ;

[Glenpwood]

Is this the same Theme From Exodus song that was in the seventies Supremes concert repertoire?

[midnight johnny]

Is this the same Theme From Exodus song that was in the seventies Supremes concert repertoire?

Think so.....

[carole cucumber]

Is this the same Theme From Exodus song that was in the seventies Supremes concert repertoire?

Yes & the Originals also did a version on the def i ni tions album.

[Glenpwood]

Think so.....

Strange encore choice then..... Mary mentioned it in her second memoir when recalling a show where they came back out to do it as an encore and found most everyone had left!

[MotownLover]

John - IOU $25.00!:eek:

[MotownLover]

Just curious...Do you take PayPal?

:o

[sophisticated_soul]

On that $10.00 IOU, I'll be deducting the Senior Discount.:D

[midnight johnny]

John - IOU $25.00!:eek:


...................[[*grin)!

[midnight johnny]

Just curious...Do you take PayPal?

:o

Only with 2 forms of I.D......

[carole cucumber]

If you can state again on which album that Stevie single was featured and get it right, motownlover and sophisticated soul will be bound to submit their full fees....

[midnight johnny]

On that $10.00 IOU, I'll be deducting the Senior Discount.:D

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....smart cookie!!!

[Glenpwood]

Oh John, forget five bucks, how about Twenty Million Lira and I'll throw in a dress I got my Aunt Flo to make for me in her sweatshop

[144man]

Motown has upped its quality by now. Some of the tracks not played were pretty strong.

[midnight johnny]

If you can state again on which album that Stevie single was featured and get it right, motownlover and sophisticated soul will be bound to submit their full fees....

Hmmmmmmmmmm....was it the original Motor Town Review??

[sophisticated_soul]

With "Old Love" on the b-side of "Punch", this was one of those 45s I played until the grooves turned gray. I'm only 11 and already so heavy with the emotions, oh the pangs of preteen angst "Old Love" brought out in me. LOL!!:D

[midnight johnny]

Oh John, forget five bucks, how about Twenty Million Lira and I'll throw in a dress I got my Aunt Flo to make for me in her sweatshop

20,000,000 LIRA???? That Italian currency is worth slightly less than USA......SURE....times are TIGHT!

[carole cucumber]

Hmmmmmmmmmm....was it the original Motor Town Review??

Partial credit will be given. A live version was included on Recorded Live The Motortown Revue Volume 2. The b side of the actual single first appeared on Switched On Blues.
The single was earmarked for the unreleased album 'Workout Stevie Workout'

[midnight johnny]

Who is filing their nails???

[carole cucumber]

Where are they filing them, under 'f' or 'n'?

[carole cucumber]

Please remind the listeners that Sandra Mallet would forgo her being backed up by the Vandellas to joining forces with the Downbeats to become The El-gins!!!

[midnight johnny]

Please remind the listeners that Sandra Mallet would forgo her being backed up by the Vandellas to joining forces with the Downbeats to become The El-gins!!!

DAmn...I wish I had the booklet....oh well....

[RossHolloway]

DAmn...I wish I had the booklet....oh well....

Let's Brainstorm...

[midnight johnny]

Let's Brainstorm...


RH.....noooooooo....you've done so much already.....I'm stumbling through the info I have pretty well....eh?

[144man]

I asked Martha about the Vells' track in a radio phone-in in the 70s, and she just said that Motown were issuing as many of the recorded tracks as possible as they had no idea of what would become hits.

[midnight johnny]

I asked Martha about the Vells' track in a radio phone-in in the 70s, and she just said that Motown were issuing as many of the recorded tracks as possible as they had no idea of what would become hits.

Thanks, Martin!

[sophisticated_soul]

"Two Lovers", classic MoTown, classic Rock and Roll. Classic period! Coupled with "Operator" it was another one of those 45s I played into the ground! Great, great songs.:cool:

[carole cucumber]

Johnny,

You did well with the Vells. And yes, I've always noticed the similarity between Gloria Jean & Martha's voices. Once Gloria Jean opted out, it made for a smooth transition.

[RossHolloway]

My copy is in my office!

[144man]

I was still at school when "Two Lovers" came out, and it had such an impact on me that I joined the Mary Wells Fan Club, which immediately morphed into the Tamla-Motown Appreciation Society.

[sophisticated_soul]

Yet and still one of my most favorite Supremes songs; "Time Changes Things". And yes, time changes things it's true.:cool:

[midnight johnny]

Johnny,

You did well with the Vells. And yes, I've always noticed the similarity between Gloria Jean & Martha's voices. Once Gloria Jean opted out, it made for a smooth transition.

Thank you, Carol...phewwwwwwwwwwwww....................

[carole cucumber]

Hang On Bill was a reworking of Hold On Pearl.

[midnight johnny]

Hang On Bill was a reworking of Hold On Pearl.

YES!!!! KNEW IT! [[*grin)

[144man]

Thanks, Martin!

Another example of this approach was the Pirates' tracks on this CD, which is really the Temptations under an assumed name.

[RossHolloway]

Doesn"t she sound a bit like Carolyn Crawford on Camel Walk?

[carole cucumber]

Concerning Operator, TCMSC doesn't give a clue. In the mono Mary Wells 2-fer on Kent, Keith Hughes doesn't list specific musicians for tracks but theorizes that the general musicians of the era, the Joe Hunter Band, would likely be used. But since it is Smokey producing his compositions, it is possible that Marv Tarplin's services were utilized.

[sophisticated_soul]

Wonderful, wonderful music and great company! Thanks John. Thanks all. See you in 1963!:cool:

[144man]

Thanks John and all. See you next week.

[midnight johnny]

Concerning Operator, TCMSC doesn't give a clue. In the mono Mary Wells 2-fer on Kent, Keith Hughes doesn't list specific musicians for tracks but theorizes that the general musicians of the era, the Joe Hunter Band, would likely be used. But since it is Smokey producing his compositions, it is possible that Marv Tarplin's services were utilized.

Thanks, Carole!!!

[midnight johnny]

Wonderful, wonderful music and great company! Thanks John. Thanks all. See you in 1963!:cool:

Thank you, Joseph!! Can we all fit in that Time Machine??

[midnight johnny]

Thanks John and all. See you next week.

Martin....thanks so much! Have a great week!

[midnight johnny]

Thanks All...for a great show...for great laughs...for Motown info I didn't have...and just for being you!! As Joseph said....[[next week)....See You all in 1963!!!