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milven
09-12-2013, 11:35 PM
I listened to this cut a few times and like it a lot. Love Chic and have grown to like Johnny Mathis. The combination of the two working together works for me. What is your opinion? A whole album was produced but never released.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUtKK8biQb8

soulster
09-13-2013, 12:31 AM
Johnny Mathis has stated that he'd love to see it come out one day. At the time Nile and "Nard recorded the album with Mathis, Columbia Records decided it didn't represent his image.

Kamasu_Jr
09-13-2013, 12:52 AM
Some of the tracks are on the boxed set Nile Rogers presents the Chic Organization. I think three tracks were included. I liked Mathis' work with Thom Bell much better.

R. Mark Desjardins
09-13-2013, 02:30 AM
With a lot of searching I have managed to find all the tracks Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards produced for Johnny Mathis on the net. Of course it was great to hear the remastered versions on the Chic Box set. Well worth seeking out for sure!

mr_june
09-17-2013, 04:10 PM
Sure is short sighted for a record company to say that to an established star. Look at Tony Bennett he dabbles in a variety of styles of music. I'd like to know if JM had any objections to Columbia's edict. If it didn't appeal to the old JM crowd, perhaps it would have won some newer and younger fans.

By the way, didn't Columbia say the same thing about Thom Bell's venture? I thought Thom did a super job with that I'm Going Home album. I like every song on it and it's one that sounds best to me during the winter/holiday season for some reason. Very underrated album that didn't get its due.

Mark Desjardines
11-06-2017, 05:30 PM
I just learned today that Johnny Mathis is releasing a huge 68 [[!!!) CD box set of all his recordings, which will include two previously unreleased albums and his current release. The amazing news is that the entire CHIC produced album will finally see the light of day. The box set will cost over $400 US, and for fans most interested in the CHIC produced sides, the following link features a tribute to the iconic dance music band and the DJ host airs the entire previously unreleased tracks. Be advised however, that annoying chatter precedes each track.

Crap From The Past - January 13, 2017: The Johnny Mathis Chic album! [[https://archive.org/details/cftp-2017-01-13)https://archive.org/details/cftp-2017-01-13

PeaceNHarmony
11-07-2017, 09:28 AM
I like the Chic-Mathis material; the first time I heard it I was surprised at the success of the blending of styles.

Boogiedown
11-08-2017, 02:06 AM
I just learned today that Johnny Mathis is releasing a huge 68 [[!!!) CD box set of all his recordings, which will include two previously unreleased albums and his current release. The amazing news is that the entire CHIC produced album will finally see the light of day. The box set will cost over $400 US, and for fans most interested in the CHIC produced sides, the following link features a tribute to the iconic dance music band and the DJ host airs the entire previously unreleased tracks. Be advised however, that annoying chatter precedes each track.

Crap From The Past - January 13, 2017: The Johnny Mathis Chic album! [[https://archive.org/details/cftp-2017-01-13)

https://archive.org/details/cftp-2017-01-13





At first I thought this was over the top and excessive, and a bit self grandiose, but in thinking about it further, its the coolest thing ever. Every album, every recording of Mathis' long career in one package. I'm glad he could secure access to it all! Why not!! He's at the age to now present it fully. And If he sells 10,000 --- that's four million bucks!
Could be the coolest xmas present this year , or the biggest faux pas.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/johnny-mathis-plans-comprehensive-68-d

jack020
11-09-2017, 06:15 AM
It is only his Columbia output:
When Mercury Records [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Records) invited him to join their label in 1963, they offered him what he described as "an awful lot of money" in addition to total control over his recording activities and ownership of the recording masters [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_mastering) He said, "I was the product of a very strong, determined woman named Helen Noga who did all my business transactions. She was the one who was adamant about me getting more money for my work. I had no idea that I was going to go to Mercury until it really happened."Since the new surroundings came with the option to produce his own albums, he took advantage of the opportunity to expand his duties, starting with his first release of 1964, Tender Is the Night [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tender_Is_the_Night_%28Johnny_Mathis_album%29), and continuing on through several LPs."But I wasn't a producer," he admitted, " and I didn't really realize until then how important producers were and how much they assisted me in my work."While his first three projects as producer all made the top half of the album chart, his 1964 album of Latin American recordings, Olé [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ol%C3%A9_%28Johnny_Mathis_album%29), did not appear there at all.

In the fall of 1964 he recorded what he thought would be his next release, a collection of songs that came to be known as Broadway [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadway_%28album%29) because of their inclusion in musicals, but it was shelved by Mercury and not available until 2012, when most of the masters he owned from this period were issued on compact disc for the first time.In his review for AllMusic [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllMusic), Al Campbell writes, "At the time, Mercury felt the album was too upbeat and not the type of romantic material Mathis had been so successful with during his previous tenure with Columbia."For his next three projects, Love Is Everything [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Is_Everything_%28Johnny_Mathis_album%29), The Sweetheart Tree [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sweetheart_Tree), and The Shadow of Your Smile [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_of_Your_Smile_%28Johnny_Mathis_album%29 ), the role of producer was filled by someone else. The album jacket for Love Is Everything [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Is_Everything_%28Johnny_Mathis_album%29) supplied a credit reading, "Produced by Global Records, Inc.,"which was his production company, but in the liner notes for The Complete Global Albums Collection [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Global_Albums_Collection), the album's credits list Al Ham [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Ham) as the producer.[20] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mathis_discography#cite_note-Global-20) Norman Newell [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Newell) is acknowledged in the box set as the one taking on those duties for The Sweetheart Tree, and for The Shadow of Your Smile the credit goes to Don Rieber.[20] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mathis_discography#cite_note-Global-20)

Mathis produced the two final albums in his contract and was ready for a change. In the liner notes for the compact disc release of those two albums, So Nice [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Nice_%28album%29) and Johnny Mathis Sings [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mathis_Sings), he is quoted as saying, "'The only time I was not secure in what I was doing was during the three years I was with Mercury.'" Having started out with the clear guidance he received in the early years that he recorded made the absence of it at Mercury unpleasant. "'It just didn't work as well as it did at Columbia.'"